Re: [gentoo-user] haldaemon group/user

2011-05-30 Thread Graham Murray
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: In general, you can assume portage will never delete any config files or anything from /etc without your involvement (either manually or with etc-update or similar). Do any of the config tools, etc-update, dispatch-conf, cfg-update etc, ever

[gentoo-user] Re: ebuild not inserting soname, therefore emerging zlib fails

2011-05-30 Thread Alberto Luaces
Hi Paul, Paul Hartman writes: On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Alberto Luaces alua...@udc.es wrote: Hello, I have searched quite a bit for an error I'm having when emerging current zlib-1.2.5-r2. The problem is that somehow the soname is not written in the .so file, and the build process

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-05-30 Thread Thanasis
on 05/29/2011 11:49 PM Alan Mackenzie wrote the following: So, I thought, maybe this feature is another pesky group restriction. So I tried adding myself to group disk, then to group cdrw, Try adding yourself to plugdev group also.

[gentoo-user] time issue

2011-05-30 Thread András Csányi
Hi All, I have a little problem regarding time. After every boot I have to setup my clock because about my machine the current time is +2 hour more. To be honest, this is a little bit annoying. What I did: - According to install guide I have copied the /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Budapest to

[gentoo-user] Re: vertical panel in KDE4

2011-05-30 Thread András Csányi
On 24 May 2011 14:53, András Csányi sayusi.a...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, I'm an old Gentoo fun and after a while I installed back to my machine. Unfortunately, I got used to the comfort of the Windows and my main purpose is that to make a comfortable work environment which is as comfortable

Re: [gentoo-user] time issue

2011-05-30 Thread Pandu Poluan
IIRC, starting from baselayout-2 the timezone is in /etc/timezone Just one line: Region/City Rgds, On 2011-05-30, András Csányi sayusi.a...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have a little problem regarding time. After every boot I have to setup my clock because about my machine the current time

Re: [gentoo-user] time issue

2011-05-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 30.05.2011 10:15, schrieb András Csányi: Hi All, I have a little problem regarding time. After every boot I have to setup my clock because about my machine the current time is +2 hour more. To be honest, this is a little bit annoying. What I did: - According to install guide I have

Re: [gentoo-user] time issue

2011-05-30 Thread Henry Gebhardt
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:15:59AM +0200, András Csányi wrote: So my question is that, what should I do to have the current time automatically (I'm in Hungary/Budapest)? Should I make a new clock file? You should probably customize /etc/conf.d/hwclock, search for Clock in

Re: [gentoo-user] time issue

2011-05-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 30.05.2011 11:02, schrieb Henry Gebhardt: On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:15:59AM +0200, András Csányi wrote: So my question is that, what should I do to have the current time automatically (I'm in Hungary/Budapest)? Should I make a new clock file? You should probably customize

Re: [gentoo-user] time issue

2011-05-30 Thread Mick
On Monday 30 May 2011 09:15:59 András Csányi wrote: Hi All, I have a little problem regarding time. After every boot I have to setup my clock because about my machine the current time is +2 hour more. To be honest, this is a little bit annoying. What I did: - According to install guide

Re: [gentoo-user] Converting time formats

2011-05-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 30.05.2011 00:18, schrieb Henry Gebhardt: On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 09:28:47PM -0500, Dale wrote: I went back to the man page, it sort of left the @ out on mine: -d, --date=STRING display time described by STRING, not `now' No mention of the @ sign there. It does

Re: [gentoo-user] time issue

2011-05-30 Thread Henry Gebhardt
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:57:51AM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 30.05.2011 10:15, schrieb András Csányi: The localization guide seems to be in a poor state. Copying the zoneinfo file from /usr/share... to /etc/localtime is not the best way to do it because then you miss updates. It is

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-05-30 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Alan. On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:56:10PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:37 on Sunday 29 May 2011, Alan Mackenzie did opine thusly: Hi, Neil. On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:13:08PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 29 May 2011 22:58:39 +0200, Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-05-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:10 on Monday 30 May 2011, Alan Mackenzie did opine thusly: My money says you've been hit by the Gnome Borg - where you are only permitted to do things the way the gnome devs have deemed to be appropriate and TheOneTrueWay(tm). After all, you are just a

Re: [gentoo-user] time issue

2011-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 May 2011 10:57:51 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: The localization guide seems to be in a poor state. Copying the zoneinfo file from /usr/share... to /etc/localtime is not the best way to do it because then you miss updates. It is better to create a symlink between the two. Which

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-05-30 Thread Mick
On Monday 30 May 2011 11:33:02 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 12:10 on Monday 30 May 2011, Alan Mackenzie Can't say I blame you. What's the choice, though? I appreciate the spare uncluttered desktop of Gnome. Last time I tried KDE (about 7 years ago) it was

Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue

2011-05-30 Thread James Wall
I have had that particular problem if I mounted /dev before extracting the stage3 tarball. Just follow those instructions and you sill be fine. James Wall

Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale

2011-05-30 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Sun, May 29 2011, Nils Larsson wrote: måndagen den 30 maj 2011 03:26:49 skrev Allan Gottlieb: What must I do to get en_US_utf8 ? echo LANG=en_US_utf8 /etc/env.d/02locale and env-update should work. Thanks. It just needed source /etc/profile at the end. The variables are now

Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale

2011-05-30 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 30 May 2011 04:20:01 +0200, Nils Larsson wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale: måndagen den 30 maj 2011 03:26:49 skrev Allan Gottlieb: What must I do to get en_US_utf8 ? echo LANG=en_US_utf8 /etc/env.d/02locale and env-update should work. Not likely. The correct locale

[gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-05-30 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 30 May 2011 08:40:02 +0200, Graham Murray wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] haldaemon group/user: Do any of the config tools, etc-update, dispatch-conf, cfg-update etc, ever prompt for removing a redundant file? In my experience they only 'trigger' for changed content within existing

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT - More Router Advice] Cheap Router with decent/reliable VLAN support

2011-05-30 Thread Todd Goodman
* Gregory Shearman zek...@gmail.com [110528 20:17]: In linux.gentoo.user, Todd Goodman wrote: * Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org [110528 12:43]: After seeing an older thread asking about a router, I figured I'd ask my own question... I'm looking for a cheap but reliable router that

Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale

2011-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:43:19 +0100, David W Noon wrote: Moreover, I never use file redirection from echo when a text editor is a more appropriate tool. What you have suggested above could well replace a valid locale setting with an that invalid one, without any checks at all on the existing

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:48:15 +0100, David W Noon wrote: How does the tool of choice determine if a file is redundant or not? Just because a configuration file is not associated with a Portage package [any more] does not necessarily mean it is redundant. No, but it indicates the file

[gentoo-user] kde update

2011-05-30 Thread Alain DIDIERJEAN
Trying to update from kde4.5 to kde4.6 A simple emerge -uD world gives: [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-core-4.7.2-r1 [4.6.3-r1] USE=-jit% -private-headers% [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-sql-4.7.2 [4.6.3-r2] [blocks b ] x11-libs/qt-sql-4.7.2 (x11-libs/qt-sql-4.7.2 is blocking

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 localization

2011-05-30 Thread Alex Schuster
Mick writes: On Sunday 29 May 2011 18:16:04 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Saturday 28 May 2011 20:27:59 Alex Schuster wrote: Maxim Vorontsov writes: 27.05.2011, в 21:35, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org написал(а): I backup them up regularly. And I just had to restore some config

Re: [gentoo-user] kde update

2011-05-30 Thread Mick
On Monday 30 May 2011 17:45:17 Alain DIDIERJEAN wrote: Trying to update from kde4.5 to kde4.6 A simple emerge -uD world gives: [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-core-4.7.2-r1 [4.6.3-r1] USE=-jit% -private-headers% [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-sql-4.7.2 [4.6.3-r2] [blocks b ]

Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue

2011-05-30 Thread Colleen Beamer
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 9:47 AM, James Wall wallservi...@gmail.com wrote: I have had that particular problem if I mounted /dev before extracting the stage3 tarball. Just follow those instructions and you sill be fine. James Wall I tried doing the steps that I found in my google search as

Re: [gentoo-user] Install issue

2011-05-30 Thread William Hubbs
Hi all, this issue is being worked currently. The bug you want to follow is http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368597 William pgp10T4IhBQ71.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale

2011-05-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 30.05.2011 16:43, schrieb David W Noon: On Mon, 30 May 2011 04:20:01 +0200, Nils Larsson wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale: måndagen den 30 maj 2011 03:26:49 skrev Allan Gottlieb: What must I do to get en_US_utf8 ? echo LANG=en_US_utf8 /etc/env.d/02locale and env-update

Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale

2011-05-30 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:00:02 +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale: On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:43:19 +0100, David W Noon wrote: Moreover, I never use file redirection from echo when a text editor is a more appropriate tool. What you have suggested above could well

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-05-30 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:10:02 +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files: On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:48:15 +0100, David W Noon wrote: How does the tool of choice determine if a file is redundant or not? Just because a configuration file is not

Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale

2011-05-30 Thread Dale
Florian Philipp wrote: Sure thing. However, it is much faster to type `echo foo bar` than writing Open your favorite file editor and enter 'foo' into 'bar'. Being concise is often the better approach when you want to show a solution to the problem at hand instead of educating the reader.

Re: [gentoo-user] kde update

2011-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:16:44 +0100, Mick wrote: Don't panic! What I did was to progressively uninstall the blockers and then run emerge -uaDv world. Eventually there were no blockers, the latest qt was installed and then kde4.6. If the blockers are marked with a lower case b, portage will

Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale

2011-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:46:47 +0100, David W Noon wrote: Setting noclobber in /etc/profile.d/*shopts.sh avoids that particular problem, as well was the one of accidentally nuking a file when you meant to add to it with . Setting noclobber is fine for not obliterating the current contents

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:05:10 +0100, David W Noon wrote: Just because a configuration file is not associated with a Portage package [any more] does not necessarily mean it is redundant. No, but it indicates the file warrants a closer look as it may be orphaned. qfile is my tool of choice

Re: [gentoo-user] kde update

2011-05-30 Thread Mick
On Monday 30 May 2011 20:02:06 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:16:44 +0100, Mick wrote: Don't panic! What I did was to progressively uninstall the blockers and then run emerge -uaDv world. Eventually there were no blockers, the latest qt was installed and then kde4.6. If

Re: [gentoo-user] kde update

2011-05-30 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Monday 30 May 2011 20:02:06 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:16:44 +0100, Mick wrote: Don't panic! What I did was to progressively uninstall the blockers and then run emerge -uaDv world. Eventually there were no blockers, the latest qt was installed and

Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale

2011-05-30 Thread Nils Larsson
Eh... Right, so ... The echo example might have been a bit blunt. I've found myself using echo examples as a general you need to add this setting here device, like you learn to do when you start using Gentoo, might have been a bit presumptuous of me. As for the incorrect locale string,

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-05-30 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 30.05.2011 20:05, schrieb David W Noon: On Mon, 30 May 2011 18:10:02 +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files: On Mon, 30 May 2011 15:48:15 +0100, David W Noon wrote: How does the tool of choice determine if a file is redundant or not?

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-05-30 Thread Jonathan
On Sun, 29 May 2011 20:49:05 + Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: Having played a CD, I discover there's no way to eject it; the physical button on the drive is inactive until I exit from Gnome, which is clearly suboptimal. Try checking to see if any program has a file open in the cd. If

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT - More Router Advice] Cheap Router with decent/reliable VLAN support

2011-05-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-05-29 8:28 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so - why don't you get a router that ONLY does the routing and a nice good switch where you can tag the vlans? Money/knowledge level? I don't know how to do it, so I was looking for something that will work that I can do myself, that is

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT - More Router Advice] Cheap Router with decent/reliable VLAN support

2011-05-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-05-28 8:42 PM, Gregory Shearman wrote: In linux.gentoo.user, Todd Goodman wrote: * Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org [110528 12:43]: Anyone? Will one of the FLOSS builds for the cheap Cable/DSL routers support VLANs on the different built-in router ports (ie, Tomato, DD-WRT or

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-05-30 Thread David W Noon
On Mon, 30 May 2011 21:20:01 +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files: On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:05:10 +0100, David W Noon wrote: [snip] The only algorithmic approach with which I would feel comfortable would be if the file were checked against the

[gentoo-user] Re: openrc and /etc/modprobe.d/*

2011-05-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: modules=fuse Which appears to be the proper syntax judging from the comments in the stub file provided (/etc/conf.d/modules). But `fuse' never gets auto loaded. There must be something more or different it needs. Your syntax is correct.

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-05-30 Thread Stroller
On 30/5/2011, at 11:10am, Alan Mackenzie wrote: ... Right clicking on Audio Disc gives an eject menu point. YUCK!!! If I'd've wanted an Apple Macintosh, I know where to buy one. I just want my drive's eject button to work. Your Linux box isn't working, and you're complaining about Macs?

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-05-30 Thread Stroller
On 30/5/2011, at 11:33am, Alan McKinnon wrote: You're dashed right. I now understand what's happening: When a CD is inserted and Gnome detects it as an audio CD, the CD drive is locked. At the same time, a stupid icon Audio Disc appears on the screen. I don't understand why they

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-05-30 Thread Stroller
On 31/5/2011, at 12:26am, Stroller wrote: On 30/5/2011, at 11:10am, Alan Mackenzie wrote: It gets worse. If you double click on Audio Disc, it opens a window with the files uselessly displayed. I'll bet it doesn't display the actual files. Audio CDs don't have files, they have a

[gentoo-user] Anyone running a gentoo guest on virtualbox?

2011-05-30 Thread walt
In preparation for the upcoming upgrade to gnome3, I've installed the latest gentoo snapshot to a new virtualbox machine. (So I can trash my virtual gentoo machine instead of my real gentoo machine :) The virtual install went perfectly AFAICT, except for building a new customized kernel for the

Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale

2011-05-30 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Mon, May 30 2011, David W. Noon wrote: On Mon, 30 May 2011 04:20:01 +0200, Nils Larsson wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale: måndagen den 30 maj 2011 03:26:49 skrev Allan Gottlieb: What must I do to get en_US_utf8 ? echo LANG=en_US_utf8 /etc/env.d/02locale and env-update should

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a gentoo guest on virtualbox?

2011-05-30 Thread Pandu Poluan
Are you using a recent stage3 tarball? If so, I suspect your booting problem has got something to do with this bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368597 Rgds, On 2011-05-31, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: In preparation for the upcoming upgrade to gnome3, I've installed the latest

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a gentoo guest on virtualbox?

2011-05-30 Thread Pandu Poluan
Meh, I clicked 'Send' too fast. *My* suggested solution: Generate an initramfs containing udev. The hands-down easiest way is using genkernel's 'only create an initramfs' switch (sorry I forgot what exactly). This needs to be done exactly once throughout the life of your VM. (To the herd of

Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale

2011-05-30 Thread daid kahl
On 30 May 2011 20:58, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Mon, May 30 2011, David W. Noon wrote: On Mon, 30 May 2011 04:20:01 +0200, Nils Larsson wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] setting locale: måndagen den 30 maj 2011 03:26:49 skrev  Allan Gottlieb: What must I do to get en_US_utf8 ?

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-05-30 Thread daid kahl
I can't be of much more help to you, I don't use Gnome at all (see above) Can't say I blame you.  What's the choice, though?  I appreciate the spare uncluttered desktop of Gnome.  Last time I tried KDE (about 7 years ago) it was anything but uncluttered.  I tried XFCE briefly, but couldn't

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-05-30 Thread daid kahl
daid@titan ~ % cat /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules # external USB, Seagate FreeAgent GO aka cyclops  SUBSYSTEMS==usb, DRIVERS==usb, ATTRS{serial}== 5LZ2XQJ5, SYMLINK+=cyclops ACTION==add, RUN+=/etc/udev/scripts/mount_cyclops.sh Sorry, but make sure that the one entry (begins with

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-05-30 Thread Dale
David W Noon wrote: You have just touched on an annoyance of unmerge, in that it does not clean up configuration files that have been modified. It removes files that are still in the same state as when the package was emerged, but not those modified by the user. I don't see how user changes

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-05-30 Thread Indi
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:10:02AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:37 on Sunday 29 May 2011, Alan Mackenzie did opine thusly: Hi, Neil. On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:13:08PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 29 May 2011 22:58:39 +0200, Alan McKinnon

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT - More Router Advice] Cheap Router with decent/reliable VLAN support

2011-05-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 30 May 2011 17:06:01 Tanstaafl wrote: On 2011-05-29 8:28 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: so - why don't you get a router that ONLY does the routing and a nice good switch where you can tag the vlans? Money/knowledge level? I don't know how to do it, so I was looking for

Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning redundant configuration files

2011-05-30 Thread Graham Murray
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: There are times that if portage removed a config file, I would not be happy. Sometimes I unmerge a package then remerge but want to keep the config files. Would I like there to be the option, yep, I sure would. There are also times when I want to get rid