Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Mick
On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 04:27:03 Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: On 4 June 2011, at 02:33, Dale wrote: … What I would like to know is why some threads get broken up? My mail client here follows these conversations as threads. For some reason, recently the threads are getting broken as if

Re: [gentoo-user] Caching Proxy alternative to Squid?

2011-06-04 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 04.06.2011 02:54, schrieb Stroller: On 3 June 2011, at 09:59, Pandu Poluan wrote: ... Oookay... something's wrong with the box itself... Even Apache TS failed for the pages where Squid failed o_O Time to rebuild the box, then . emerge -e everything! That doesn't help if some

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 01:49:22 +0100, Stroller wrote: So it's like that Java-based gmail client for smartphones? The one that can only top posts and gives the user no way to do it otherwise. I thought *every* mail client for smart phones did that, No, only the crap ones. -- Neil

Re: [gentoo-user] Still haveing problems with audio and guvcview

2011-06-04 Thread Mick
On Friday 03 Jun 2011 21:10:29 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: When i start alsamixer and select with the soundcard-selector the audio device of my usb cam ... alsamixer crashes with: cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument ...still no sound via usb cam and it seems no chance to use

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 03:33 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 03:00:01AM +0200, Stroller wrote: On 3 June 2011, at 08:44, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... So it's like that Java-based gmail client for smartphones? The one that can

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 10:35 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Mick did opine thusly: On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 04:27:03 Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: On 4 June 2011, at 02:33, Dale wrote: … What I would like to know is why some threads get broken up? My mail client here follows

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:35:32 +0100 schrieb Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com: On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 04:27:03 Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: On 4 June 2011, at 02:33, Dale wrote: … [...] Are you sure it is DW Noon? His mail client seems legit: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1;

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:10:01AM +0200, Stroller wrote: Part of my post that you chose not to quote was I'd be the first to admit that Macs have flaws. All desktops / UIs / operating-systems are a compromise. I don't believe any of them are perfect. Last time I used Linux on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Still haveing problems with audio and guvcview

2011-06-04 Thread meino . cramer
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [11-06-04 12:12]: On Friday 03 Jun 2011 21:10:29 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: When i start alsamixer and select with the soundcard-selector the audio device of my usb cam ... alsamixer crashes with: cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument

Re: [gentoo-user] Still haveing problems with audio and guvcview

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:30:01AM +0200, Mick wrote: On Friday 03 Jun 2011 21:10:29 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: When i start alsamixer and select with the soundcard-selector the audio device of my usb cam ... alsamixer crashes with: cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 01:10:01PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: most of the broken threads will seem to be broken by Indi. Now change it to Standard Mailing List and threading mostly goes back to being normal. I don't think the broken threads are anyone's mailer, I think it's kmail doing

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 04.06.2011 12:37, schrieb Marc Joliet: I noticed it with DW Noon, too, although it also happened with Indi. I'm using Claws-Mail myself. I have Thunderbird and see this breakings too, it is really annoing. Greetings Sebastian signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 04.06.2011 14:03, schrieb Indi: Could it have anything to do with the fact that I read this list from the usenet group, rather than the list itself? Could that cause an inconsistency in headers that might break threading, perhaps? Your References: Header looks very strange, I think the

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 02:30:02PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 04.06.2011 14:03, schrieb Indi: Could it have anything to do with the fact that I read this list from the usenet group, rather than the list itself? Could that cause an inconsistency in headers that might break

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Dale
Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 04.06.2011 12:37, schrieb Marc Joliet: I noticed it with DW Noon, too, although it also happened with Indi. I'm using Claws-Mail myself. I have Thunderbird and see this breakings too, it is really annoing. Greetings Sebastian I'm using Seamonkey

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-4 device detection

2011-06-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 28 May 2011 01:43:54 +0200, Nils Larsson wrote: lördagen den 28 maj 2011 00:54:42 skrev Neil Bothwick: That fails on the broken box with Failed to execute program /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper: Yepp, thats the error. I vaugly recall doing a emerge -1 dbus polkit

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:05:24AM -0500, Dale wrote: I'm using Seamonkey for my email. It does appear that it happens with Indi to tho. This thread is now broken up into a few discussions as well. No clue what order things are supposed to be in so just replying as I get to them.

[gentoo-user] sntp error in rc.log post OpenRC migration

2011-06-04 Thread Tanstaafl
Ok, finally took the plunge, and as everyone else said it was pretty much anti-climactic... However, I'm getting the following error when starting sntp that I wasn't before in rc.log: * Setting clock via the NTP client 'sntp' ... 4 Jun 09:34:15 sntp[1626]: Started sntp 4 Jun 09:34:15

Re: [gentoo-user] sntp error in rc.log post OpenRC migration

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:47:20AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Ok, finally took the plunge, and as everyone else said it was pretty much anti-climactic... However, I'm getting the following error when starting sntp that I wasn't before in rc.log: * Setting clock via the NTP client 'sntp' ...

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Dale
Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:05:24AM -0500, Dale wrote: I'm using Seamonkey for my email. It does appear that it happens with Indi to tho. This thread is now broken up into a few discussions as well. No clue what order things are supposed to be in so just replying as I get to

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:22:57AM -0500, Dale wrote: Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:05:24AM -0500, Dale wrote: I'm using Seamonkey for my email. It does appear that it happens with Indi to tho. This thread is now broken up into a few discussions as well. No clue what

Re: [gentoo-user] sntp error in rc.log post OpenRC migration

2011-06-04 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2011-06-04 10:02 AM, Indi wrote: Using ntp-client here, works just fine. Hmmm... what runlevel do you have ntdp set to? Mine is 'default'...

RE: [gentoo-user] Caching Proxy alternative to Squid?

2011-06-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
-original message- Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Caching Proxy alternative to Squid? From: Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net Date: 2011-06-04 15:45 Am 04.06.2011 02:54, schrieb Stroller: On 3 June 2011, at 09:59, Pandu Poluan wrote: ... Oookay... something's wrong with the box itself...

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Dale
Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:22:57AM -0500, Dale wrote: That one was inline with the rest. Yeppie !! Thanks for the confirmation, and for mentioning it in the first place. I couldn't tell of course, because they all looked fine on usenet and there was no local email to

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-4 device detection

2011-06-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 04 June 2011 14:10:55 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 28 May 2011 01:43:54 +0200, Nils Larsson wrote: lördagen den 28 maj 2011 00:54:42 skrev Neil Bothwick: That fails on the broken box with Failed to execute program /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper: Yepp, thats the

Re: [gentoo-user] autofs

2011-06-04 Thread Stéphane Guedon
On Saturday 04 June 2011 02:40:12 William Kenworthy wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 14:57 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 03.06.2011 14:25, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Apparently, though unproven, at 14:18 on Friday 03 June 2011, Volker Armin Hemmann did opine thusly: On Friday 03 June

RE: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Pandu Poluan
-original message- Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com Date: 2011-06-04 21:54 Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:22:57AM -0500, Dale wrote: That one was inline with the rest. Yeppie !! Thanks for the

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote: I suspected it was whatever device was being used. Sort of like top posting. Some people have to top post because the device they are using won't let them reply any other way. I just wonder if there is some setting that could be

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 04.06.2011 16:54, schrieb Dale: I just wonder if there is some setting that could be changed somewhere to make it work correctly with usenet, or whatever you were using. I just know this is going to happen again. I don't think that there is something that can be done, because the server

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:27:32PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: I don't think that there is something that can be done, because the server changes the headers of the mails. That is a example of Indi's headers when he was using usenet References: gzhrq-5lz...@gated-at.bofh.it

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:27:32PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: That is a example of Indi's headers when he was using usenet References: gzhrq-5lz...@gated-at.bofh.it gzhlc-5n...@gated-at.bofh.it gzj0b-84...@gated-at.bofh.it gzvl7-3y...@gated-at.bofh.it Can't believe I never

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:38:38AM -0400, Indi wrote: Well I could be wrong but do believe the MUA wll write the Xref or References headers according to what the server has on the original message. If the original header info exists anywhere in the message sent by the mail2news gateway it

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:50:03PM +0200, Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:27:32PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: I don't think that there is something that can be done, because the server changes the headers of the mails. That is a example of Indi's headers when he was using

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-06-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:35 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine thusly: You say OS X is good enough I say you've got some mighty low standards. My manager's predecessor's precedessor's precedessor had the same thing with SuSE and installed that goddamn piece of shit on 100+

[gentoo-user] Reboot after kjournald starting

2011-06-04 Thread Alex Schuster
Hi there! A mother board died, so I put the hard drives into an old spare PC, rebuilt the kernel via chroot in order to include some necessary drivers, and all was well. Until I plugged in the 2nd hard drive. Then, the thing reboots after these messages: [...] VFS: Mounted root (ext3

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 06:47:34PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 13:35 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine thusly: You say OS X is good enough I say you've got some mighty low standards. My manager's predecessor's precedessor's precedessor had the

[gentoo-user] Fonts and KDE SC

2011-06-04 Thread CJoeB
Hi all. Okay, colour me so stupid, but I want to add some TrueType fonts to KDE and I can't figure out how to do it. In my previous KDE install, there used to be a menu item for adding fonts. I *have* googled for this, but haven't found anything relevant. Can someone please help? Regards,

Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and KDE SC

2011-06-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 04 June 2011 13:54:27 CJoeB wrote: Hi all. Okay, colour me so stupid, but I want to add some TrueType fonts to KDE and I can't figure out how to do it. In my previous KDE install, there used to be a menu item for adding fonts. I *have* googled for this, but haven't found

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine thusly: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote: I suspected it was whatever device was being used. Sort of like top posting. Some people have to top post because the device they are using won't

Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts and KDE SC

2011-06-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:54 on Saturday 04 June 2011, CJoeB did opine thusly: Hi all. Okay, colour me so stupid, but I want to add some TrueType fonts to KDE and I can't figure out how to do it. In my previous KDE install, there used to be a menu item for adding fonts. I *have*

[gentoo-user] Re: Fonts and KDE SC

2011-06-04 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 06/04/2011 08:54 PM, CJoeB wrote: Hi all. Okay, colour me so stupid, but I want to add some TrueType fonts to KDE and I can't figure out how to do it. In my previous KDE install, there used to be a menu item for adding fonts. I *have* googled for this, but haven't found anything relevant.

Re: [gentoo-user] Reboot after kjournald starting

2011-06-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:57 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Alex Schuster did opine thusly: Hi there! A mother board died, so I put the hard drives into an old spare PC, rebuilt the kernel via chroot in order to include some necessary drivers, and all was well. Until I plugged in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fonts and KDE SC

2011-06-04 Thread CJoeB
On 06/04/11 14:17, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/04/2011 08:54 PM, CJoeB wrote: Hi all. Okay, colour me so stupid, but I want to add some TrueType fonts to KDE and I can't figure out how to do it. In my previous KDE install, there used to be a menu item for adding fonts. I *have* googled

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine thusly: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote: I suspected it was whatever device was being used. Sort of like top posting.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fonts and KDE SC

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 02:37:32PM -0400, CJoeB wrote: On 06/04/11 14:17, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/04/2011 08:54 PM, CJoeB wrote: Hi all. Okay, colour me so stupid, but I want to add some TrueType fonts to KDE and I can't figure out how to do it. In my previous KDE install,

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread kashani
On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine thusly: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote: I suspected it was whatever device was being used.

Re: [gentoo-user] Still haveing problems with audio and guvcview

2011-06-04 Thread Mick
On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 12:42:07 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I modularized alsa. Now I have back my distorted sound when using vlc for tv and mplayer does not find any audio device despite the fact that everything is in place...and gucview produces videos with an empty audio track (recorded

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:59:52AM -0700, kashani wrote: On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine thusly: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500,

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-06-04 Thread Mick
On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 18:25:00 Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 06:47:34PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 13:35 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine thusly: You say OS X is good enough I say you've got some mighty low standards. My

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread David W Noon
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 05:40:01 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design: The thread Cleaning redundant configuration files is the worst. I just went back and looked. David W Noon is usually where it starts. David, what you got going on there my

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 04 June 2011 11:59:52 kashani wrote: On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine thusly: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:38:52PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Saturday 04 June 2011 11:59:52 kashani wrote: On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fonts and KDE SC

2011-06-04 Thread Mick
On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 19:59:36 Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 02:37:32PM -0400, CJoeB wrote: On 06/04/11 14:17, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: In System Settings, in the System Administration section, there is a Font Installer icon. Okay, I AM stupid - not normally, but in this

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Dale
David W Noon wrote: On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 05:40:01 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design: The thread Cleaning redundant configuration files is the worst. I just went back and looked. David W Noon is usually where it starts. David, what you got

Re: [gentoo-user] kde-4 device detection

2011-06-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 16:56:46 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Did anyone find a solution to this? Re-emerging the various packages mentioned made no difference, and it gives the same error run as root, so permissions aren't the issue. and sysfs events are propageted to udev? Yes,

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 04 June 2011 15:46:49 Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:38:52PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Saturday 04 June 2011 11:59:52 kashani wrote: On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though

Re: [gentoo-user] Still haveing problems with audio and guvcview

2011-06-04 Thread meino . cramer
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [11-06-04 22:30]: On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 12:42:07 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I modularized alsa. Now I have back my distorted sound when using vlc for tv and mplayer does not find any audio device despite the fact that everything is in place...and gucview

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Stroller
On 4 June 2011, at 09:45, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 01:49:22 +0100, Stroller wrote: So it's like that Java-based gmail client for smartphones? The one that can only top posts and gives the user no way to do it otherwise. I thought *every* mail client for smart phones did

Re: [gentoo-user] Caching Proxy alternative to Squid?

2011-06-04 Thread Stroller
On 4 June 2011, at 09:45, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 04.06.2011 02:54, schrieb Stroller: On 3 June 2011, at 09:59, Pandu Poluan wrote: ... Oookay... something's wrong with the box itself... Even Apache TS failed for the pages where Squid failed o_O Time to rebuild the box, then .

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 10:19:51PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: diplomatic mode I have a slightly adverse general opinion about the mail client called 'mutt'. I am not saying that this is the fault of its devs nor do I suggesst that there is anything wrong with its users. /diplomatic

Re: [gentoo-user] autofs

2011-06-04 Thread Stroller
On 4 June 2011, at 16:10, Stéphane Guedon wrote: ... In home network, you share many types of files ! The first I think is DVD iso, which is huge (too large to go through coda) and not streamable... (but I admit it's not the best exemple !) I'm not sure what coda is, but I stream DVD

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi: Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive at times when dealing with IMAP. I use Thunderbird and IMAP for 3 years now and in all that time became TB never unresponsive. So this point seems to have improved since your testing.

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:44:30PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi: Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive at times when dealing with IMAP. I use Thunderbird and IMAP for 3 years now and in all that time became TB never

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-06-04 Thread Stroller
On 4 June 2011, at 12:35, Indi wrote: ... Last time I used Linux on the desktop (in ernest) I had some dreadful problems with KDE crashing or failing to open under certain circumstances, which I found frustrating and impossible to overcome. That was several years ago, and no-one on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread David W Noon
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design: [snip] Well, something works now. This is threaded as it should be. So, whatever you are doing, keep doing it that away. lol I don't want you to think I was upset or anything. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Still haveing problems with audio and guvcview

2011-06-04 Thread Mick
On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 21:56:52 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Mick, thank you fpr your help !:) You're welcome, although it hasn't done much good I'm afraid. :( I reinitilized with alsactl (I think, the kernel does the same when booting...) and do a alsa-info again (dump at the end of

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 21:57:45 +0100, Stroller wrote: I thought *every* mail client for smart phones did that, No, only the crap ones. I find K9-Mail otherwise really nice. What are you using? K9, it defaults to top-posting, but you can change it. However, you can't edit the text you

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-06-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 23:09:28 +0100, Stroller wrote: My client wraps lines at a perfectly sensible length. http://linux.stroller.uk.eu.org/Email%20Line%20Wrapping.png It's not always a readable length. Long lines are much harder to read, that's why newspapers use columns. The accepted width

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Mick
On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 22:59:32 Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:44:30PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi: Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive at times when dealing with IMAP. I use Thunderbird and IMAP for 3

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Original-Nachricht Von: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk K9, it defaults to top-posting, but you can change it. K9 is the best mobil mailclient. However, you can't edit the text you are quoting, so it is still rather top-posting-centric. Sure you can as you see AT

[gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Mick
David W Noon wrote: On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design: [snip] Well, something works now. This is threaded as it should be. So, whatever you are doing, keep doing it that away. lol I don't want you to think I

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:09:28PM +0100, Stroller wrote: You know, Finder is not as bad as you would imagine. I don't have to imagine. Bought my first Mac (an SE) in 1987, and my last in 2009. The '87 SE still works, the 2009 mini no longer does and was a buggy piece o' crap all its life.

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Dale
David W Noon wrote: Not a problem. In fact, it is not I (or Indi) who is causing the breakage. A little further investigation has shown that the Message-ID: line of all message posted through the Gentoo list server is rewritten, regardless of its initial value. This is why correctly posted

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-06-04 Thread Mick
On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 23:38:09 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 23:09:28 +0100, Stroller wrote: My client wraps lines at a perfectly sensible length. http://linux.stroller.uk.eu.org/Email%20Line%20Wrapping.png It's not always a readable length. Long lines are much harder to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: ... as mud! This reply of yours (unlike your previous) is shown as a new thread in Knode, not as a threaded reply to Dale's message. :@ PS. I'm responding using Knode and news.gmane.org as an NNTP server, to see what difference this may make. Interesting. Here the thread

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:57:44PM -0500, Dale wrote: David W Noon wrote: Not a problem. In fact, it is not I (or Indi) who is causing the breakage. A little further investigation has shown that the Message-ID: line of all message posted through the Gentoo list server is rewritten,

Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:42:40PM +0100, Mick wrote: I have looked at mutt some time ago, but then I would also need to install fetchmail and smtp and what not, instead of a single desktop application. Actually you can build mutt with the smtp, imap, and pop flags and use mutt's built-in

Re: [gentoo-user] Still haveing problems with audio and guvcview

2011-06-04 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: mylinux:/home/useraplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: VT2020 Analog [VT2020 Analog]   Subdevices: 2/2   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0   Subdevice #1: subdevice #1 card 0:

[gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread walt
On 06/04/2011 02:59 PM, Indi wrote: On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:44:30PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi: Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive at times when dealing with IMAP. I use Thunderbird and IMAP for 3 years now and in

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-06-04 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 23:38:09 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 23:09:28 +0100, Stroller wrote: My client wraps lines at a perfectly sensible length. http://linux.stroller.uk.eu.org/Email%20Line%20Wrapping.png It's not always a readable length. Long

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I eject an audio CD inside Gnome?

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 06:37:31PM -0500, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 23:38:09 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 23:09:28 +0100, Stroller wrote: My client wraps lines at a perfectly sensible length.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 04 June 2011 23:53:50 Mick wrote: ... as mud! This reply of yours (unlike your previous) is shown as a new thread in Knode, not as a threaded reply to Dale's message. :@ PS. I'm responding using Knode and news.gmane.org as an NNTP server, to see what difference this may

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design

2011-06-04 Thread Indi
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:58:12AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Saturday 04 June 2011 23:53:50 Mick wrote: ... as mud! This reply of yours (unlike your previous) is shown as a new thread in Knode, not as a threaded reply to Dale's message. :@ PS. I'm responding using

Re: [gentoo-user] Still haveing problems with audio and guvcview

2011-06-04 Thread meino . cramer
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [11-06-05 03:02]: On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 21:56:52 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Mick, thank you fpr your help !:) You're welcome, although it hasn't done much good I'm afraid. :( I reinitilized with alsactl (I think, the kernel does the same