Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} rdiff-backup: push or pull?

2011-08-18 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 10:18:25 AM Grant wrote: You can seperate the backups by giving each system a different account where to store the backups. I'm not sure what you mean. The backups are all stored on the backup server. Each machine to be backed up has a different

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} rdiff-backup: push or pull?

2011-08-18 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:49:16 PM Alex Schuster wrote: Grant writes: Can I reserve 0% for root on my USB hard drive which is only used for backups and does not contain an OS? Yes: mke2fs -m 0 /dev/usb-drive Although a value 0 helps against fragmentation. And

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote: Am 08/17/11 13:44, schrieb Joost Roeleveld: On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 09:59:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:48:30 Michael Mol wrote: How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use?

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Can I retrieve my SSL key?

2011-08-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike) klond...@gentoo.org wrote: El 18/08/11 03:37, Grant escribió: I just accidentally overwrote my SSL certificate key. Is there any way to

Re: [gentoo-user] What's the status of ht://Dig?

2011-08-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.orgwrote: Hello list, I'd like to add a search facility to my choir's website, and a likely- looking candidate is ht://Dig, but its News dates from seven years ago. Does this mean it's dead or absolutely stable? If this

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 02:10:18 -0700 (PDT), Alan McKinnon wrote: I was interested to read that NASDAQ runs a modified Gentoo and wondered what does an unmodified stock Gentoo look like. Shiny, round, about 5.25 in diameter :) -- Neil Bothwick To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 06:45:14 +0200, Norman Rieß wrote: Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. That's just plain masochism. I have one of those and even

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread Dale
Matthew Finkel wrote: Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc? - Matt This may help. I saw one Atom CPU in the list. http://gentoo.linuxhowtos.org/compiletimeestimator/ It must be pretty slow since it is at about the bottom of the list. The list goes from fastest to

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread Norman Rieß
Am 08/18/11 09:11, schrieb Matthew Finkel: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org mailto:nor...@smash-net.org wrote: Am 08/17/11 13:44, schrieb Joost Roeleveld: On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 09:59:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 16 August

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Can I retrieve my SSL key?

2011-08-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 03:45:11 +0200, Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike) wrote: I generated a new key but used the wrong filename so it overwrote a key that has an associated certificate. Hopefully you can still ext3undelete it Worst case you have to parse the whole disk looking for

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread Norman Rieß
Am 08/18/11 09:50, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 06:45:14 +0200, Norman Rieß wrote: Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. That's just plain

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote: Am 08/18/11 09:11, schrieb Matthew Finkel: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org mailto:nor...@smash-net.org wrote: Am 08/17/11 13:44, schrieb Joost Roeleveld: On Wednesday,

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:58 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Matthew Finkel wrote: Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc? - Matt This may help. I saw one Atom CPU in the list.

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:41:57 +0200, Norman Rieß wrote: Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. That's just plain masochism. I have one of those and

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread Gregory Shearman
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:48:30 Michael Mol wrote: I have a midget server on the LAN (Atom N270) which runs Gentoo, but it's too underpowered to do all the compiling itself, so it NFS-exports its packages directory to my workstation, where I have a 32-bit

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Can I retrieve my SSL key?

2011-08-18 Thread Adam Carter
photorec, from the testdisk package, will retrieve all files from a filesystem, deleted or otherwise. However it doesn't retrieve the names so finding the right one will be fun :-O Grep will help immensely. This implies that the new file data is not written over to the top of the old file - is

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread Norman Rieß
Am 08/18/11 11:08, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:41:57 +0200, Norman Rieß wrote: Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. That's just plain

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread James Broadhead
On 18 August 2011 09:23, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote: Am 08/18/11 09:11, schrieb Matthew Finkel: Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc? - Matt Atom: genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5  * sys-devel/gcc     Sat Feb 26 13:06:08 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5      

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Can I retrieve my SSL key?

2011-08-18 Thread Andrea Conti
On 18/08/11 03.23, Grant wrote: I just accidentally overwrote my SSL certificate key. Is there any way to retrieve it? Possibly some sort of export since I haven't restarted apache2 yet? If apache keeps the certificate file open after reading it (I doubt that's the case, but if you have lsof

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread Norman Rieß
Am 08/18/11 12:08, schrieb James Broadhead: On 18 August 2011 09:23, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote: Am 08/18/11 09:11, schrieb Matthew Finkel: Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc? - Matt Atom: genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 * sys-devel/gcc Sat Feb

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread James Broadhead
On 18 August 2011 12:45, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote: CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -march=core2 -mssse3 -mfpmath=sse Yes, those work out to the same set as I posted -- the major difference is that I have USE=gtk gcj, which along with the additional load probably accounts for the discrepancy. I

[gentoo-user] what is /usr/lib64/debug ?

2011-08-18 Thread Allan Gottlieb
/usr/lib64/debug seems to have in it a duplicate (at least as far as directory names are concerned) of much of /usr/lib64. For example ajglap lib64 # /bin/pwd /usr/lib64/debug/usr/lib64 ajglap lib64 # du -s * | sort -n | tail -10 34020 mesa 53148 gstreamer-0.10

Re: [gentoo-user] what is /usr/lib64/debug ?

2011-08-18 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2011/8/18 Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu: /usr/lib64/debug seems to have in it a duplicate (at least as far as directory names are concerned) of much of /usr/lib64. For example    ajglap lib64 # /bin/pwd    /usr/lib64/debug/usr/lib64    ajglap lib64 # du -s * | sort -n | tail -10    

Re: [gentoo-user] what is /usr/lib64/debug ?

2011-08-18 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Thu, Aug 18 2011, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: 2011/8/18 Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu: /usr/lib64/debug seems to have in it a duplicate (at least as far as directory names are concerned) of much of /usr/lib64. For example    ajglap lib64 # /bin/pwd    /usr/lib64/debug/usr/lib64    

Re: [gentoo-user] what is /usr/lib64/debug ?

2011-08-18 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Thu, Aug 18 2011, Allan Gottlieb wrote: On Thu, Aug 18 2011, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: 2011/8/18 Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu: /usr/lib64/debug seems to have in it a duplicate (at least as far as directory names are concerned) of much of /usr/lib64. For example    ajglap lib64 #

[gentoo-user] Re: OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

2011-08-18 Thread James
Gregory Shearman zekeyg at gmail.com writes: Is ARM more efficient than the intel atom? Overwhelmingly YES! check out this bad boy that runs gentoo: [1] [2] ARM has chipsets coming in months that are being dubbed the intel killers based on the A15. [3] There are notebooks with arm

[gentoo-user] OT: SSD with Sata

2011-08-18 Thread james
Enjoy! Lots of folks have periodic quesions about SSD devices; so I thought this link would be welcome information on SSDs. http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Samsung-SSD-830/?kc=LNXDEVNL081711 James

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Jarry
On 18-Aug-11 2:18, Adam Carter wrote: Just to counter all of the scary stories, Yeah, i'd like to counter too. While the implications of getting it wrong are serious, technically its quite simple. I run my own DNS, and use a couple of free secondaries (http://www.twisted4life.com and

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: The same here. I have been running my own dns for about 2 years, primary for a few domains. As secondaries I use twisted4life, xname, afraid, nether, and rollernet. Never had any problem. I did this mainly because my registrar

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 18.08.2011 03:35, schrieb Michael Mol: On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed 17 August 2011 17:23:41 Michael Mol did opine thusly: On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I currently use a free service to host the

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Grant
Just to counter all of the scary stories, Yeah, i'd like to counter too. While the implications of getting it wrong are serious, technically its quite simple. I run my own DNS, and use a couple of free secondaries (http://www.twisted4life.com and http://www.everydns.net). The same here. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: Am 18.08.2011 03:35, schrieb Michael Mol: On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed 17 August 2011 17:23:41 Michael Mol did opine thusly: At a minimum they should be on

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I do run dns with www on the same server (in addition to ftp, mail, and a few more things), but each of those services in its own vserver-guest... Jarry Are those vserver-guest instances for security?  I didn't know people

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Jarry
On 18-Aug-11 20:22, Grant wrote: Just to counter all of the scary stories, I do run dns with www on the same server (in addition to ftp, mail, and a few more things), but each of those services in its own vserver-guest... Are those vserver-guest instances for security? I didn't know people

[gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-08-18 Thread frares
Hi, guys It is a shame, I know, but after several years using Gentoo, it is the first time I try to build a kernel without genkernel. And now I can't boot to that new kernel, it does not find (and really do not have a) /dev/sda* root partition (real-root); during the boot it stops,

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-08-18 Thread András Csányi
On 18 August 2011 18:59, fra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, guys It is a shame, I know, but after several years using Gentoo, it is the first time I try to build a kernel without genkernel. And now I can't boot to that new kernel, it does not find (and really do not have a) /dev/sda* root

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-08-18 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:59 PM, fra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, guys It is a shame, I know, but after several years using Gentoo, it is the first time I try to build a kernel without genkernel. And now I can't boot to that new kernel, it does not find (and really do not have a) /dev/sda*

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-08-18 Thread frares
Em 18/08/2011 16:08, András Csányi sayusi.a...@gmail.com escreveu: On 18 August 2011 18:59, fra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, guys It is a shame, I know, but after several years using Gentoo, it is the first time I try to build a kernel without genkernel. And now I can't boot to that new

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-08-18 Thread frares
Em 18/08/2011 16:13, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com escreveu: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:59 PM, fra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, guys It is a shame, I know, but after several years using Gentoo, it is the first time I try to build a kernel without genkernel. And now I can't boot to that new

Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail blocks maildrop requiered by qmail-scanner.

2011-08-18 Thread Henk Abma
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 08:10:25PM +0200, Henk Abma wrote: Hello list, yesterday I wanted to emerge -uNDa world, at which point emerge said it couldn't emerge because maildrop 2.5.4 could not be installed on the same system as netqmail 1.06. Silly as I was, I removed maildrop, not

Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-08-18 Thread frares
Em 18/08/2011 16:17, fra...@gmail.com escreveu: Em 18/08/2011 16:13, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com escreveu: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:59 PM, fra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, guys It is a shame, I know, but after several years using Gentoo, it is the first time I try to build a kernel

Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-08-18 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:26 PM, fra...@gmail.com wrote: Em 18/08/2011 16:17, fra...@gmail.com escreveu: Forgot to say: I am able to boot the LiveCD and chroot to that partition. Now checking the kernel configuration, there's only SATA_ACARD_AHCI set up as a module, everything else AHCI is

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} USB 3.0 hard drive speed test

2011-08-18 Thread Grant
I'm testing this USB 3.0 bus-powered hard drive: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0041OSQ9S and I get: # hdparm -tT /dev/sdb /dev/sdb: Timing cached reads:   8006 MB in  2.00 seconds = 4004.33 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 252 MB in  3.01 seconds =  83.63 MB/sec # hdparm -tT

Re: [gentoo-user] Running HTTP and DNS on same machine

2011-08-18 Thread Stroller
On 18 August 2011, at 01:18, Adam Carter wrote: … I … use a couple of free secondaries … http://www.everydns.net). Only for the next 14 days. I'll check out twisted4life.com but would grateful for any other suggestions. There's no money in free DNS, unfortunately. Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} USB 3.0 hard drive speed test

2011-08-18 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Just thought I'd mention that one of my USB 3.0 ports works and the other doesn't.  The non-working port lights up the USB drive but the drive isn't picked up by the system in dmesg at all.  I don't know if this is a hardware

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-08-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 18 August 2011 20:42:30 Michael Mol wrote: Don't forget to check your BIOS. You might also consider enabling SCSI-generic (disk), which would catch ide-emulated disks and put a scsi interface around them in the kernel. But it might well shove a generic driver in before the

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} USB 3.0 hard drive speed test

2011-08-18 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 18 August 2011 23:46:30 Paul Hartman wrote: I saw that one of the pins on the port was bent inward on itself, so it never made contact when I plugged devices into it. And when you tried to straighten it, it broke off, no? That's been my experience. -- Rgds Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} rdiff-backup: push or pull?

2011-08-18 Thread Grant
You can seperate the backups by giving each system a different account where to store the backups. I'm not sure what you mean.  The backups are all stored on the backup server. Each machine to be backed up has a different account on the backup server. This will prevent machine

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-08-18 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:59 PM, fra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, guys It is a shame, I know, but after several years using Gentoo, it is the first time I try to build a kernel without genkernel. And now I can't boot to that new kernel, it does not find (and really do not have a) /dev/sda* root

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} rdiff-backup: push or pull?

2011-08-18 Thread Grant
I'm setting up an automated rdiff-backup system and I'm stuck between pushing the backups to the backup server, and pulling the backups to the backup server.  If I push, I have to allow read/write access of my backups via SSH keys.  If I pull, I have to enable root logins on each system to be

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-08-18 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:59 AM, fra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, guys It is a shame, I know, but after several years using Gentoo, it is the first time I try to build a kernel without genkernel. And now I can't boot to that new kernel, it does not find (and really do not have a) /dev/sda*

Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail blocks maildrop requiered by qmail-scanner.

2011-08-18 Thread felix
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 09:19:42PM +0200, Henk Abma wrote: On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 08:10:25PM +0200, Henk Abma wrote: Hello list, yesterday I wanted to emerge -uNDa world, at which point emerge said it couldn't emerge because maildrop 2.5.4 could not be installed on the same system

Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot

2011-08-18 Thread Graham Murray
Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com writes: Also, check your BIOS to see if it's running your SATA controller in some kind of IDE emulation mode. If it is, disable that. (Some motherboards let you choose between IDE and RAID, where RAID is AHCI mode. Others call IDE mode 'legacy', and still others