Re: [gentoo-user] Help!

2011-10-05 Thread Yohan Pereira
On Wednesday 05 Oct 2011 12:52:41 Lavender wrote: Hi, everybody! I installed gentoo according to Gentoo Handbook , then I login gentoo . But I found that I couldn't use wpa_supplicant for scanning netcard device failed . I think that means the netcard module not loaded, so I type lsmod and the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 14:32:51 -0700 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: Then any boot loader will need to call something to start it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 23:33:34 +0200, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: Then any boot loader will need to call something to start it. Understand this: any Linux/Unix init system (systemd, SysV, Upstart, OpenRC) is simply a program... that the Linux kernel itself executes. That's the init=

Re: [gentoo-user] Help!

2011-10-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:52:41 +0800, Lavender wrote: Hi, everybody! I installed gentoo according to Gentoo Handbook , then I login gentoo . But I found that I couldn't use wpa_supplicant for scanning netcard device failed . I think that means the netcard module not loaded, so I type lsmod and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011 22:11:00 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: The thing is that GRUB2 needs to understand several filesystems to grab the kernel image from. It also wants to be able to use a more interesting resolution than 640x480. This means that it has to reimplement all the code for any

[gentoo-user] SERVFAIL with bind; problems in named.conf?

2011-10-05 Thread Andrey Moshbear
For bind, I have the following as named.conf: acl xfer { none; }; acl trusted { 127.0.0.0/8; ::1/128; }; options { directory /var/bind; pid-file /var/run/named/named.pid; listen-on-v6 { none; }; listen-on port 53 { 127.0.0.1; 192.168.1.0/10; EXTERNAL_IP; }; };

[gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Help!

2011-10-05 Thread Lavender
I did that manually, did I lose something when I build the kernel ? But I really turn the options which handbook mentioned on . I don't know how to work out. -- 原始邮件 -- 发件人: Yohan Pereirayohan.pere...@gmail.com; 发送时间: 2011年10月5日(星期三) 下午3:18 收件人:

Re: [gentoo-user] SERVFAIL with bind; problems in named.conf?

2011-10-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 05:06:27 -0400 Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: For bind, I have the following as named.conf: acl xfer { none; }; acl trusted { 127.0.0.0/8; ::1/128; }; options { directory /var/bind; pid-file /var/run/named/named.pid;

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-05 Thread Michael A. Koerber
I have found that use of LABEL=FOO in /etc/fstab doesn't always solve the problem of disks being reassigned during boot. That's because fstab isn't used during boot. What root= setting is passed to your kernel by your bootloader? Is that using /dev/sda1 or a

[gentoo-user] Re: SERVFAIL with bind; problems in named.conf?

2011-10-05 Thread Andrey Moshbear
No clue, as logging isn't yet enabled. However, chechzone says that all is fine. On 2011-10-05, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 05:06:27 -0400 Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: For bind, I have the following as named.conf: acl xfer { none; }; acl

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SERVFAIL with bind; problems in named.conf?

2011-10-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 09:38:01 -0400 Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: No clue, as logging isn't yet enabled. However, chechzone says that all is fine. Well that's your primary error right there. How can you run a daemon that isn't logging and consider that even halfway proper? Get some

[gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Oct 5, 2011 8:59 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-05 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 05.10.2011 15:29, schrieb Michael A. Koerber: I have found that use of LABEL=FOO in /etc/fstab doesn't always solve the problem of disks being reassigned during boot. That's because fstab isn't used during boot. What root= setting is passed to your kernel by your

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 05.10.2011 15:55, schrieb Grant Edwards: I give up. I've absolutely no idea what grub2 has to do with the OS's init system, and none of what you've written makes any sense to me. It has NOTHING to do with it, or not more or less then lilo or grub1 or any other bootloader. But the automagic

[gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-05, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: I give up. I've absolutely no idea what grub2 has to do with the OS's init system, and none of what you've written makes any sense to me. I think what he meant was: I assume you mean PID#1 (typically /sbin/init). On Unixes with PID#0,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:46:03 + (UTC) Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: The *installer* portion of grub2 is aware of which pid#0 is running when it auto-creates the bootloader's configuration. That pid#0 is passed on to the kernel by the bootloader. OK. I that I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:46:03 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: The *installer* portion of grub2 is aware of which pid#0 is running when it auto-creates the bootloader's configuration. That pid#0 is passed on to the kernel by the bootloader. OK. I that I understand. It seems a bit

[gentoo-user] Why grub can't load win kernel

2011-10-05 Thread Lavender
The configuration of win kernel in grub.conf is like below: rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 It worked yesterday , but after I rebuilding grub software, it can't work. I don't know why, it still can boot gentoo kernel, I am confused,because grub only can do operations to

Re: [gentoo-user] Why grub can't load win kernel

2011-10-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 23:32:10 +0800 Lavender 448463...@qq.com wrote: The configuration of win kernel in grub.conf is like below: rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 It worked yesterday , but after I rebuilding grub software, it can't work. I don't know why, it still can

Re: [gentoo-user] Why grub can't load win kernel

2011-10-05 Thread Lavender
Sorry, I'm a gentoo newcomer, so I am totally not familar with this OS. Does USE make sense with grub ? And in the building there is no error, I had grub-install done. Grub boot interface can show up , I can choose which OS to boot, but I couldn't boot win , what is the problem in your

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread ny6p01
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 08:56:54AM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 10/04/2011 06:16 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: On Oct 4, 2011 5:10 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 04 Oct 2011 04:49:56 -0500, Dale wrote: Subject line says it pretty well.

Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Help!

2011-10-05 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Hello Lavender, we are going to help you. So please relax, tell your mail client to wrap lines at 72 characters and use the reply button to answer. For now, build a kernel with genkernel according to the handbook and stick to the rest of the hints you already got in the other replies. Save

Re: [gentoo-user] Why grub can't load win kernel

2011-10-05 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:39:59 +0200 schrieb Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: What version of grub, and what options (USE flags) was grub built with? which of the grub USE flags do you think could cause this behavior?

Re: [gentoo-user] Why grub can't load win kernel

2011-10-05 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am Wed, 5 Oct 2011 23:48:09 +0800 schrieb Lavender 448463...@qq.com: Sorry, I'm a gentoo newcomer, so I am totally not familar with this OS. Does USE make sense with grub ? And in the building there is no error, I had grub-install done. which was the *exact* commandline for grub-install?

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am Wed, 5 Oct 2011 09:20:07 -0700 schrieb ny6...@gmail.com: Why does Gentoo still 'standardize' on grub instead of going forward with grub2? Grub2 is weird (coming from anything that isn't grub2), and if you mess up the upgrade, you can't boot. It's a support nightmare.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-05, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: I give up.  I've absolutely no idea what grub2 has to do with the OS's init system, and none of what you've written makes any sense to me. I think what he meant

[gentoo-user] Android 2.2 USB tethering?

2011-10-05 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
**I'm a desktop user, so please don't suggest me wifi tethering. Which module am I supposed to enable in the kernel to get my android tablet usb tethering to work? It's an olivepad (vt100 tablet, see http://www.olivetelecom.in/laptop/olivepad/features.html) Also, please tell me some

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SERVFAIL with bind; problems in named.conf?

2011-10-05 Thread Andrey Moshbear
Bit by yet another EPERM :/

Re: [gentoo-user] Android 2.2 USB tethering?

2011-10-05 Thread David Abbott
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-843255.html HTH, David

[gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2011-10-05, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: And the set of init scripts that belong to grub2 are just to try to auto-magically generate the config file? With options from /etc/default/grub, yes. But please stop calling the files in /etc/grub.d init scripts. I'm not calling

[gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-05 Thread walt
On 10/05/2011 06:29 AM, Michael A. Koerber wrote: Just tried root=PARTUUID= failed. Checked my genblk.c and the changes don't appear in the 2.6.36 or 2.6.39 kernels on my system. When did (does) the PARTUUID syntax support get released? This is very obscure and confusing if you don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-05, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: And the set of init scripts that belong to grub2 are just to try to auto-magically generate the config file? With options from /etc/default/grub, yes.

Re: [gentoo-user] Why grub can't load win kernel

2011-10-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 18:26:31 +0200 Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote: Am Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:39:59 +0200 schrieb Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: What version of grub, and what options (USE flags) was grub built with? which of the grub USE flags do you think could cause

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SERVFAIL with bind; problems in named.conf?

2011-10-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 13:29:40 -0400 Andrey Moshbear andrey@gmail.com wrote: Bit by yet another EPERM :/ An EPERM you say? How ... fascinating. Care to elaborate? -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 5 Oct 2011 12:10:45 -0700 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-05, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s can...@gmail.com wrote: And the set of init scripts that belong to grub2 are just to try to

Re: [gentoo-user] Why grub can't load win kernel

2011-10-05 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am Wed, 5 Oct 2011 21:20:07 +0200 schrieb Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: which of the grub USE flags do you think could cause this behavior? I have no idea. I'm asking for full fault report information, mentioning everything I can think of that could be relevant. You know,

Re: [gentoo-user] Why grub can't load win kernel

2011-10-05 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 05 Oct 2011 16:32:10 Lavender wrote: The configuration of win kernel in grub.conf is like below: rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 Assuming that your MSWindows OS is on the first partition of the first (master) disk then the above is correct and grub should

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-05 Thread pk
On 2011-10-05 20:54, walt wrote: You might think, as I did, that PARTUUID stands for the UUID of the partition you're searching for -- not true :( PARTUUID stands for Partition Table UUID, which is entirely different from a Partition UUID. Clear as mud, eh? IMHO it does seem like a better

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-05 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:54 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/05/2011 06:29 AM, Michael A. Koerber wrote: Just tried root=PARTUUID=  failed.  Checked my genblk.c and the changes don't appear in the 2.6.36 or 2.6.39 kernels on my system. When did (does) the PARTUUID syntax support get

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hard drives not detected in repeatable order.

2011-10-05 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 05.10.2011 20:54, schrieb walt: On 10/05/2011 06:29 AM, Michael A. Koerber wrote: Just tried root=PARTUUID= failed. Checked my genblk.c and the changes don't appear in the 2.6.36 or 2.6.39 kernels on my system. When did (does) the PARTUUID syntax support get released? This is

Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Help!

2011-10-05 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 05 Oct 2011 17:20:02 Jonas de Buhr wrote: Hello Lavender, we are going to help you. So please relax, tell your mail client to wrap lines at 72 characters and use the reply button to answer. ... and also avoid top-posting if you can? For now, build a kernel with genkernel

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SERVFAIL with bind; problems in named.conf?

2011-10-05 Thread Andrey Moshbear
The zone file was 640 root:root. It should've been 640 root:named.

[gentoo-user] weird sound error in kde4

2011-10-05 Thread Doug Hunley
Whenever I launch kde (from startx) I get a message saying that 'sb Live! 5.1 [SB0060] (rev.7, serial:0x80611102)' is disabled and it is falling back to 'sb Live! 5.1 [SB0060]' . and then the 'kde startup' sound plays and sound works perfectly. If I open systemsettings and click 'multimedia'

Re: [gentoo-user] weird sound error in kde4

2011-10-05 Thread Dale
Doug Hunley wrote: Whenever I launch kde (from startx) I get a message saying that 'sb Live! 5.1 [SB0060] (rev.7, serial:0x80611102)' is disabled and it is falling back to 'sb Live! 5.1 [SB0060]' . and then the 'kde startup' sound plays and sound works perfectly. If I open systemsettings and

Re: [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it?

2011-10-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 05 October 2011 17:47:21 Jonas de Buhr wrote: sometimes things indeed need to change in order to improve. I remember things being improved. While I was in my 50s I was continually faced with youngsters' ideas for improving the company's methods. Stupid, every one. When

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health

2011-10-05 Thread Grant
Has anyone dealt with this successfully?  I'd love to know how you did it. You're right to worry about thisand I suspect it's also aging related.  The older I get, the more sensitive I am to how many hours/day is healthy. I don't think there is a perfect solution, especially as more

Re: [gentoo-user] Android 2.2 USB tethering?

2011-10-05 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan
On Wed 05 Oct 2011 11:12:19 PM IST, David Abbott wrote: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-843255.html HTH, David Followed that guide step by step. But still not configured, kernel logs say [134356.331426] usb 1-4: bad CDC descriptors Any clue about this? I guess the device is at fault?