Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] In trying to solve a general problem, Lennart has a knack for breaking Gentoo - this distro does not fit the general problems

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] In trying to solve a general problem, Lennart has

[gentoo-user] iscsi boot

2012-11-12 Thread Tsukasa Mcp_Reznor
When booting using iscsi, the connection drops to load in the firmware file before actually retrieving the firmware Oct 30 02:42:02 gentoophenom2 kernel: Refined TSC clocksource calibration: 3208.122 MHz.Oct 30 02:42:02 gentoophenom2 kernel: Switching to clocksource tscOct 30 02:42:02

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:21:06 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: If we also stick to helping someone with their problem, and refrain from replying about how bad or useless we think an app or ideal might be to us, we could avoid flame wars. Unfortunately, there are times when it is necessary to point out

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 02:37:13 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 2:20 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Alan McKinnon

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:21:06 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: If we also stick to helping someone with their problem, and refrain from replying about how bad or useless we think an app or ideal might be to us, we could avoid flame wars. Unfortunately, there are times when it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:37:03AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 23:21:06 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: If we also stick to helping someone with their problem, and refrain from replying about how bad or useless we think an app or ideal might be to us, we could avoid flame

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, really? Didn't get the memo. I suppose all my machines (laptops, desktops, servers and media center) running with Gentoo+systemd (and what is more, *without* OpenRC) are a fidget of my imagination. fidget

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

2012-11-12 Thread Mick
On Thursday 08 Nov 2012 19:46:01 john wrote: On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 19:17:25 +0100 Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: Am 08.11.2012 17:37, schrieb Paul Hartman: On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 08.11.2012 12:12

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 05:59:39 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:37:03AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: Unfortunately, there are times when it is necessary to point out how bad an idea is in order to help someone. Recent example: the suggestion to use dd to copy one drive to

[gentoo-user] Trailing colon and integer in output of emerge

2012-11-12 Thread Redcap
Today I noticed that emerge adds a colon together with an integer to the version of every package it wants to update, e.g. it says [ebuild U ~] kde-base/kmail-4.9.3:4 [4.9.2:4] USE=handbook kontact (- aqua) -debug {-test} 0 kB I never noticed the trailing :4 before and I have no idea what

Re: [gentoo-user] Trailing colon and integer in output of emerge

2012-11-12 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 11/12/2012 01:28:08 PM, Redcap wrote: Today I noticed that emerge adds a colon together with an integer to the version of every package it wants to update, e.g. it says [ebuild U ~] kde-base/kmail-4.9.3:4 [4.9.2:4] USE=handbook kontact (- aqua) -debug {-test} 0 kB I never noticed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:28:52PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: snip -- Neil Bothwick Duly noted and appreciated ... thank you. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com

[gentoo-user] Re: Trailing colon and integer in output of emerge

2012-11-12 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 12/11/12 14:46, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 11/12/2012 01:28:08 PM, Redcap wrote: Today I noticed that emerge adds a colon together with an integer to the version of every package it wants to update, e.g. it says [ebuild U ~] kde-base/kmail-4.9.3:4 [4.9.2:4] USE=handbook kontact (- aqua)

[gentoo-user] nfs mounting back and forth...

2012-11-12 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, I set up a cross compilation toolchain and it is possible to use emerge-wrapper and friends to populate the rootfs of my beaglebone, which is mounted via nfs. Normally, when compiling stuff natively on the beaglebone, I mount a part of my PC to /tmp of the beaglebone to reduce write cycles

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 18:24:32 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:32:41 +0800 微蔡 micro...@fedoraproject.org wrote: 在 2012年11月11日 星期日 07:22:41,Bruce Hill 写道: On Sun, Nov 11, 2012

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
and now you are playing dumb. As I wrote earlier, you can't compare your baby oil with coolant oil. One is specifically made to be none toxic. The other one to be a good coolant. And just because there is a video of a transformer being filled with mineral oil based coolant does not change the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: [huge snip] But all of this is a side issue anyway. The main thrust of my post was that some software and developers have a tendency to get tempers riled up around here (remember /usr, separate volumes and initrd?)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:17:50 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, really? Didn't get the memo. I suppose all my machines (laptops, desktops, servers and media center) running with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: [snip] This person doing post-grad work in a Mexican universtiy well understands. But even if you doubt that, just reference his remark: I hope it doesn't offend anyone. That was not (nor is) the intention. Seems

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: [snip] Seniority != meritocracy. And I don't know how much meritocratic this list could be, since it is a users lists. The most merit a member of this list can get is to give technically acurate,

Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP - specific inet no - how to

2012-11-12 Thread Andrea Conti
dhcpcd has a --resquest option to do just this. One never stops learning... It only works if the address is available and if the server is returning a different address now it may be that your preferred address is in use. It also depends on the dhcp server understanding the request. I

Re: [gentoo-user] nfs mounting back and forth...

2012-11-12 Thread Andrea Conti
Hi, As an alternative to quickpkg and friends: Mount the beaglebones rootfs to /usr/$CTARGET of my Gentoo Linux PC. Then nfs-mount a part of my Linux PC filesystem on /usr/$CTARGET/tmp No need for nfs, just bind mount /tmp onto /usr/$CTARGET/tmp. Look up the --bind option in the man page of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chromium print bug?

2012-11-12 Thread Grant
Does anyone else's chromium get a little crazy when they try to bring up the print dialog without a printer attached? Thanks for the workaround :) Whenever I try to print to a file from chromium, the browser freezes and I need to kill the process to continue. I normally don't start cupsd

Re: [gentoo-user] nfs mounting back and forth...

2012-11-12 Thread meino . cramer
Andrea Conti a...@alyf.net [12-11-12 20:00]: Hi, As an alternative to quickpkg and friends: Mount the beaglebones rootfs to /usr/$CTARGET of my Gentoo Linux PC. Then nfs-mount a part of my Linux PC filesystem on /usr/$CTARGET/tmp No need for nfs, just bind mount /tmp onto

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chromium print bug?

2012-11-12 Thread Luis Gustavo Vilela de Oliveira
My cups was down when a tested. The problem is exactly what *walt* points before. 2012/11/12 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com Does anyone else's chromium get a little crazy when they try to bring up the print dialog without a printer attached? Thanks for the workaround :) Whenever I try to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:21:06 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: [snip] Seniority != meritocracy. And I don't know how much meritocratic this list could be, since it is a users lists. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 05:59:39 -0600 Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: my experience has been that even most heathen in remote villages understand propriety. My experience is that all so-called primitive societies have an excellent grasp of this thing called manners - it's the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chromium print bug?

2012-11-12 Thread Grant
My cups was down when a tested. The problem is exactly what walt points before. Here it is: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=160574 - Grant Does anyone else's chromium get a little crazy when they try to bring up the print dialog without a printer attached? Thanks

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 12:21:06 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: [snip] Seniority != meritocracy. And I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Keith Dart
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Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz wrote: Re

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: new system hardware

2012-11-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 12 November 2012 17:39:15 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: ... more and more transformers are filled with non-oil coolants. That's interesting - what other substances are used instead these days? In my day we had nothing but mineral oil. -- Rgds Peter

[gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/11/12 00:53, walt wrote: [...] You Lennart haters out there (and I was one of you not so long ago ;) now I think he's not so bad after all. I'll like systemd when I can just emerge it and have it working, just like I can with OpenRC :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Keith Dart
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Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz wrote: Re

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Keith Dart
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Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Keith Dart
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Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz wrote: Re

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Keith Dart
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Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz wrote: Re

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

2012-11-12 Thread Keith Dart
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[gentoo-user] Fwd: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization

2012-11-12 Thread Dale
Original Message Subject:[gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:40:53 -0500 From: Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org Reply-To: gentoo-proj...@lists.gentoo.org To: gentoo-proj...@lists.gentoo.org Richard Yao wrote: Dear