[gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, would anybody please be so kind to explain to me the rational used by portage to re-emerge some packages. I've installed portage 2.2.7 and when I try to emerge, say, app-shells/zsh-completions it re-emerges (emerge -vp shows 'rR') several packages including, i.e.,

Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/09/2013 10:24, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, would anybody please be so kind to explain to me the rational used by portage to re-emerge some packages. I've installed portage 2.2.7 and when I try to emerge, say, app-shells/zsh-completions it re-emerges (emerge -vp shows 'rR') several

Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 09/27/2013 11:09:11 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 27/09/2013 10:24, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, would anybody please be so kind to explain to me the rational used by portage to re-emerge some packages. I've installed portage 2.2.7 and when I try to emerge, say,

[gentoo-user] Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

2013-09-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
I am back from my visit at a customer where I installed a new and shiny gentoo server for running VMs (KVM). Currently I don't have access as my VPN only works from my static IP at home (my router seems to be offline right now ... and I am still away from office for the weekend) so I can't check

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM2+mdraid5+LUKS+systemd (was Re: LVM2+mdraid+systemd)

2013-09-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.09.2013 01:38, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: systemd-analyze blame to see what is taking so long. systemd-delta to see what changes from upstream do you have. Thanks ... I cleaned up some cruft already and will test some boot-process soon. Still on the road ...

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-27 Thread Grant
I realized I only need two types of systems in my life. One hosted server and bunch of identical laptops. My laptop, my wife's laptop, our HTPC, routers, and office workstations could all be on identical hardware, and what better choice than a laptop? Extremely space-efficient, portable,

[gentoo-user] Re: Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Markus Trippelsdorf
On 2013.09.27 at 10:24 +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, would anybody please be so kind to explain to me the rational used by portage to re-emerge some packages. I've installed portage 2.2.7 and when I try to emerge, say, app-shells/zsh-completions it re-emerges (emerge -vp shows

Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:28:43AM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: SNIP Here is a full example: emerge -auv1 app-shells/zsh-completions These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies - * Digest verification failed: *

Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Philip Webb
130927 Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: you are encountering a relatively new feature of portage that is supposed to make revdep-rebuild emerge @preserve-rebuild obsolete. The logic is, that if you update a package, other packages depending on this package will automatically rebuild to prevent

Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 07:18:08 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: I have found sometimes that Portage wants to remerge LO or similar, but in fact the existing installed version continues to work regardless. That's because you aren't using the broken bits. But that's fine as long as it continues to work

[gentoo-user] Re: Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

2013-09-27 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 27/09/13, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: I am back from my visit at a customer where I installed a new and shiny gentoo server for running VMs (KVM). Currently I don't have access as my VPN only works from my static IP at home (my router seems to be offline right now ... and I am still

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

2013-09-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.09.2013 15:02, schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht: You should give details of the tests. It looks like a hard disk write speed bottleneck. I will get access again on monday. That's a hardware RAID-10 on 6 SAS disks ... that should be fast enough ...

[gentoo-user] Re: Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

2013-09-27 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 27/09/13, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 27.09.2013 15:02, schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht: You should give details of the tests. It looks like a hard disk write speed bottleneck. I will get access again on monday. That's a hardware RAID-10 on 6 SAS disks ... that should be fast enough

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

2013-09-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.09.2013 15:18, schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht: Try avoiding to write on disks. Use devices /dev/null and /dev/zero with both protocol and command lines not optimizing zeros for network tests. You could also use dedicated network performance tools if you have install rights. Will do next

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:38:44PM +0200, Markus Trippelsdorf wrote: On 2013.09.27 at 10:24 +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, would anybody please be so kind to explain to me the rational used by portage to re-emerge some packages. I've installed portage 2.2.7 and when I try to

Re: [gentoo-user] Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?

2013-09-27 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 27.09.2013 12:33, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: I am back from my visit at a customer where I installed a new and shiny gentoo server for running VMs (KVM). Currently I don't have access as my VPN only works from my static IP at home (my router seems to be offline right now ... and I am

Re: [gentoo-user] Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/09/2013 12:37, Grant wrote: I realized I only need two types of systems in my life. One hosted server and bunch of identical laptops. My laptop, my wife's laptop, our HTPC, routers, and office workstations could all be on identical hardware, and what better choice than a laptop?

[gentoo-user] Re: Managing multiple systems with identical hardware

2013-09-27 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: I'm slowly coming to conclsuion that you are trying to solve a problem with Gentoo that binary distros already solved a very long time ago. You are forcing yourself to become the sole maintainer of GrantOS and do all the heavy lifting of

[gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread Bruce Hill
mingdao@workstation ~ $ eselect news read 2013-09-27-initramfs-required Title Separate /usr on Linux requires initramfs AuthorWilliam Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org Posted2013-09-27 Revision 1 Linux systems which have

Re: [gentoo-user] Q on portage's rational to re-emerge packages

2013-09-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/09/2013 13:18, Philip Webb wrote: 130927 Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote: you are encountering a relatively new feature of portage that is supposed to make revdep-rebuild emerge @preserve-rebuild obsolete. The logic is, that if you update a package, other packages depending on this

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread Dale
Bruce Hill wrote: mingdao@workstation ~ $ eselect news read 2013-09-27-initramfs-required Title Separate /usr on Linux requires initramfs AuthorWilliam Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org Posted2013-09-27 Revision 1

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Dale wrote: Bruce Hill wrote: mingdao@workstation ~ $ eselect news read 2013-09-27-initramfs-required Title Separate /usr on Linux requires initramfs AuthorWilliam Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org Posted

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread Dale
Bruce Hill wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Dale wrote: I'm hoping that since I use eudev, I don't have to worry about this. If I do, this could get interesting, again. Dale Do you have /usr separate from / ? Yep. From my understanding tho, eudev is not supposed to be

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/09/2013 00:57, Dale wrote: Bruce Hill wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Dale wrote: I'm hoping that since I use eudev, I don't have to worry about this. If I do, this could get interesting, again. Dale Do you have /usr separate from / ? Yep. From my understanding

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 01:10:14 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: One of the very first things you do with /usr at boot time is mount it, and from then on you use it exactly as if it were always on / anyway. I'll bet that since you moved all of portage out, your mount options and fs configs are the

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:57:06PM -0500, Dale wrote: Bruce Hill wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Dale wrote: I'm hoping that since I use eudev, I don't have to worry about this. If I do, this could get interesting, again. Dale Do you have /usr separate from / ? Yep.

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

2013-09-27 Thread David W Noon
On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 01:10:14 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01: On 28/09/2013 00:57, Dale wrote: Bruce Hill wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 05:33:02PM -0500, Dale wrote: I'm hoping that since I use eudev, I don't have to