Re: [gentoo-user] Is there any way out of this...?

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 07:32:09 +0100 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: [blocks B ] sys-fs/udev (sys-fs/udev is blocking sys-apps/systemd-208-r2) Pick one or the other; you can use sys-apps/systemd without running or migrating to it if you want just the sys-fs/udev portion of it.

[gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Mick
Why is gnome-base suddenly necessary on my system? Is it media-plugins/gst- plugins-gconf that wants to pull it in this morning, when it hadn't done so before? This is what I see, but I also include the full enchilada below in case it is more informative: [nomerge ]

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 10:16:43 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Why is gnome-base suddenly necessary on my system? Is it media-plugins/gst- plugins-gconf that wants to pull it in this morning, when it hadn't done so before? This is what I see, but I also include the full enchilada

[gentoo-user] dev-libs/efl-1.8.0_beta2 fails to emerge on x86

2013-12-07 Thread Mick
Any idea what causes this error: /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -std=gnu99 - O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -msse -mmmx -pipe -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as- needed -o bin/edje/edje_cc bin/edje/bin_edje_edje_cc-edje_cc.o bin/edje/bin_edje_edje_cc-edje_cc_out.o

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-libs/efl-1.8.0_beta2 fails to emerge on x86

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 10:48:21 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: lib/edje/.libs/libedje.so: undefined reference to `eet_mmap' This sounds like a bug to me, can you file a bug at https://bugs.gentoo.org and attach the complete build log as well as comment with the output of `emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Mick
On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 10:31:38 you wrote: On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 10:16:43 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Why is gnome-base suddenly necessary on my system? Is it media-plugins/gst- plugins-gconf that wants to pull it in this morning, when it hadn't done so before? This

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd as drop-in replacement for udev?

2013-12-07 Thread Róbert Čerňanský
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 01:43:37 -0500 Jonathan Callen jcal...@gentoo.org wrote: Udev as installed by sys-fs/udev is *exactly* the same as udev installed by sys-apps/systemd, except that the latter installs more files. It is very much possible to switch to systemd as your udev provider without

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:03:00 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: It used to be the case that setting -gnome globally would be sufficient, without having to manually mask packages. I had gstreamer in pidgin to be able to get sound. I'm guessing that I need gstreamer in pidgin to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:03:00 Mick wrote: Is it the case that now one has to install gnome-base to be able to use gstreamer? Not here, no. I have gstreamer but no gnome-base on this KDE box (not ~amd64). In fact, eix -I gnome returns only polkit-gnome. I see that's only there because I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Is there any way out of this...?

2013-12-07 Thread Róbert Čerňanský
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 09:40:13 +0100 Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 07:32:09 +0100 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: [blocks B ] sys-fs/udev (sys-fs/udev is blocking sys-apps/systemd-208-r2) Pick one or the other; you can use sys-apps/systemd without running or

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Mick
On Saturday 07 Dec 2013 11:27:50 Tom Wijsman wrote: On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:03:00 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: It used to be the case that setting -gnome globally would be sufficient, without having to manually mask packages. I had gstreamer in pidgin to be able to get

Re: [gentoo-user] Is there any way out of this...?

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 12:46:34 +0100 Róbert Čerňanský ope...@tightmail.com wrote: That is actually what I have asked just a few days ago in thread Systemd as drop-in replacement for udev? and here I have another answer. :-) `grep systemd /usr/portage/virtual/udev/udev-208.ebuild` confirms from

Re: [gentoo-user] Something is pulling in gnome-base

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:47:41 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: tomorrow I could end up *having* to install systemd or whatever RHL and their developers have deemed appropriate for your average desktop system. They don't have control over the dependencies in packages and

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble emerging (*not* running) systemd on stable amd64

2013-12-07 Thread gottlieb
On Fri, Dec 06 2013, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 09:45:17 -0500 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Cannot open src/hostname/org.freedesktop.hostname1.policy: No such file or directory A stable ebuild being broken is concerning, the above feels like a bug to me; can you file a bug and

Re: [gentoo-user] trouble emerging (*not* running) systemd on stable amd64

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 12:32:12 -0500 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Fri, Dec 06 2013, Tom Wijsman wrote: A stable ebuild being broken is concerning, the above feels like a bug to me; can you file a bug and attach the complete build log and comment with the output of `emerge --info`? Thank you

[gentoo-user] [systemd] lvm.service running too early?

2013-12-07 Thread walt
Just updated my stable amd64 machine to use systemd and all is working okay except for the lvm.service. The lvm.service starts with no errors, but OTOH it finds no physical or logical volumes. I suspect this happens because the drive using lvm2 is in a usb3 external dock instead of attached to

[gentoo-user] is there a good independent power-manager?

2013-12-07 Thread Benjamin Block
Hi, after the recent stabilization of gnome3 I want to migrate away from the whole gnome-toolchain. Maybe I will migrate to systemd in some months, if everything has settled down but as for now I don't think I gain anything from it. The thing is, on my laptop I used to use the

Re: [gentoo-user] [systemd] lvm.service running too early?

2013-12-07 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Dec 7, 2013 12:40 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: Just updated my stable amd64 machine to use systemd and all is working okay except for the lvm.service. The lvm.service starts with no errors, but OTOH it finds no physical or logical volumes. I suspect this happens because the drive

[gentoo-user] booting with kernel 3.10.17 - services fail to start. Help, please!

2013-12-07 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Gentoo! I finally built 3.10.17 a couple of weeks back, and have spent many hours, fruitlessly, trying to get a handle on the following problem. I boot with 3.10.17 and the services fail to start. Everything is fine with 3.8.13. My system is an amd-64 stable, with /usr on the root

Re: [gentoo-user] booting with kernel 3.10.17 - services fail to start. Help, please!

2013-12-07 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 21:26:08 + Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: My evidence for this failure comes from $ rc config show -all: every visible service is marked as being [stopped]. If I try $ rc config start service-name, I get told something like service is already starting. The same

Re: [gentoo-user] booting with kernel 3.10.17 - services fail to start. Help, please!

2013-12-07 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Tom. Thanks for such a rapid reply. On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 10:50:16PM +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 21:26:08 + Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote: My evidence for this failure comes from $ rc config show -all: every visible service is marked as being [stopped]. If I

Re: [gentoo-user] [systemd] lvm.service running too early?

2013-12-07 Thread gottlieb
On Sat, Dec 07 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Dec 7, 2013 12:40 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: Just updated my stable amd64 machine to use systemd and all is working okay except for the lvm.service. The lvm.service starts with no errors, but OTOH it finds no physical or logical

Re: [gentoo-user] uzbl

2013-12-07 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 03:28:22PM +0100, Elias Diem wrote Is anybody else here using uzbl and can help me with the problem? * www-client/uzbl Latest version available: 2011.04.12 Latest version installed: 2011.04.12 I run amd64. Hi; I run the git version of