Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Something went wrong with DNS, plz help!

2014-07-27 Thread Grand Duet
2014-07-27 2:10 GMT+03:00 walt w41...@gmail.com: On 07/26/2014 02:00 PM, Grand Duet wrote: After the last reboot I magically have got the right /etc/resolv.conf with DNS servers IPs. Even more strange is that it happened *without* my intervention: just a few reboots (one was no enough!).

[gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Grand Duet
This is a continuation of the thread: Something went wrong with DNS, plz help! Now, the issue became clearer, so I decided to start a new thread with more descriptive Subject. In short: the contents of the file /etc/resolv.conf is unpredictably different from one reboot to another. It is either

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:21:23 +0300, Grand Duet wrote: In short: the contents of the file /etc/resolv.conf is unpredictably different from one reboot to another. It is either # Generated by net-scripts for interface lo domain mynetwork That's what you get when lo comes up. or #

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] wxGTK compilation fails missing thread.h

2014-07-27 Thread Adam Carter
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention. equery -q b /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/thread.h x11-libs/wxGTK-2.8.12.1-r1 Ok so the file IS provided by the package itself, and therefore I see why -l1 makes sense.

[gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, after finding a bad sector on my hd (see previous thread) a read a lot stuff about SMART, smartctl and such to determine wether and how severe is a bad sector and how to cope with it. There is (at least ;) one thing I dont understand: On the one hand, the surface test (extended offline and

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread Dale
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, after finding a bad sector on my hd (see previous thread) a read a lot stuff about SMART, smartctl and such to determine wether and how severe is a bad sector and how to cope with it. There is (at least ;) one thing I dont understand: On the one hand, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:12:47 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: On the one hand, the surface test (extended offline and such) aborts as soon the first read fgailure happens. On the other hand it is said: If the count of bad sectors increases over time it is time to change the hd. How can

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Grand Duet
2014-07-27 12:29 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:21:23 +0300, Grand Duet wrote: In short: the contents of the file /etc/resolv.conf is unpredictably different from one reboot to another. It is either # Generated by net-scripts for interface lo domain

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:21:23PM +0300, Grand Duet wrote This is a continuation of the thread: Something went wrong with DNS, plz help! Now, the issue became clearer, so I decided to start a new thread with more descriptive Subject. In short: the contents of the file /etc/resolv.conf

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread meino . cramer
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk [14-07-27 12:32]: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:12:47 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: On the one hand, the surface test (extended offline and such) aborts as soon the first read fgailure happens. On the other hand it is said: If the count of bad sectors

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ECC-ram, it is worth it.

2014-07-27 Thread Marc Stürmer
Am 26.07.2014 20:23, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: but you will care when your kernel writes the next file right over the partition boundary. That's why I do have backups of all my relevant data on an external storage medium.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ECC-ram, it is worth it.

2014-07-27 Thread Dale
Marc Stürmer wrote: Am 26.07.2014 20:23, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: but you will care when your kernel writes the next file right over the partition boundary. That's why I do have backups of all my relevant data on an external storage medium. Just watch that you don't backup bad data.

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread Dale
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk [14-07-27 12:32]: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:12:47 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: On the one hand, the surface test (extended offline and such) aborts as soon the first read fgailure happens. On the other hand it is said: If the

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Dale
Grand Duet wrote: 2014-07-27 12:29 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: It sounds logical. But how can I fix it? Can carrier_timeout_eth0= setting in /etc/conf.d/net file help? If so, how much seconds should I use? what do your logs say? Could you, please, be more precise where to

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread meino . cramer
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [14-07-27 13:12]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk [14-07-27 12:32]: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:12:47 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: On the one hand, the surface test (extended offline and such) aborts as soon the first read fgailure

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Grand Duet
2014-07-27 13:39 GMT+03:00 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org: On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:21:23PM +0300, Grand Duet wrote This is a continuation of the thread: Something went wrong with DNS, plz help! Now, the issue became clearer, so I decided to start a new thread with more descriptive

Re: [gentoo-user] wxGTK compilation fails missing thread.h

2014-07-27 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 07/27/2014 12:30 PM, Adam Carter wrote: On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com mailto:alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention. equery -q b /usr/include/wx-2.8/wx/thread.h x11-libs/wxGTK-2.8.12.1-r1 Ok so the file IS

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: re: which NTPd package to use?

2014-07-27 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 07/26/2014 11:25 PM, Dale wrote: Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 07/26/2014 03:31 PM, Holger Hoffstätte wrote: On Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:05:23 +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Which NTPd package would the list recommend using, ntp, openntpd, or some other package? chrony - no competition, even

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread Dale
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Back to the initial problem: How can I offline test the rest of the disk if the first bad sector (10%) of the surface breaks the test with an error? Best regards, mcc I never got mine to go past the first failure until I used dd to erase the drive. As mentioned

Re: [gentoo-user] wayland

2014-07-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.07.2014 06:32, schrieb Pavel Volkov: On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:40:36 AM MSK, James wrote: Bloatware like gnome and KDE will be the last to get QT5, Wayland and a myriad of new, super_fast, secure desktop toys, imho. Well, KDE is already on Qt 5. Strictly speaking, there's no KDE or

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Matti Nykyri
On Jul 27, 2014, at 13:33, Grand Duet grand.d...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-07-27 12:29 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:21:23 +0300, Grand Duet wrote: In short: the contents of the file /etc/resolv.conf is unpredictably different from one reboot to another.

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread meino . cramer
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [14-07-27 14:36]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Back to the initial problem: How can I offline test the rest of the disk if the first bad sector (10%) of the surface breaks the test with an error? Best regards, mcc I never got mine to go past the first failure

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Grand Duet
2014-07-27 16:10 GMT+03:00 Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi: On Jul 27, 2014, at 13:33, Grand Duet grand.d...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-07-27 12:29 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:21:23 +0300, Grand Duet wrote: In short: the contents of the file

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread Dale
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [14-07-27 14:36]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Back to the initial problem: How can I offline test the rest of the disk if the first bad sector (10%) of the surface breaks the test with an error? Best regards, mcc I never got mine to go

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS tutorial for the brain dead sysadmin?

2014-07-27 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: NFS uses RPC to do some heavy lifting - I don't know how familiar you are with this, so here's the quick version: When you mount something locally, and need to use the mounted filesystem, kernel calls are used to

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread Mick
On Sunday 27 Jul 2014 15:05:53 Dale wrote: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [14-07-27 14:36]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Back to the initial problem: How can I offline test the rest of the disk if the first bad sector (10%) of the surface breaks the test with an

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/27/2014 04:30 AM, Grand Duet wrote: and also the output of the rc-update show command? # rc-update show alsasound | boot bootmisc | boot dbus | default devfs | sysinit

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot (Got an idea!)

2014-07-27 Thread Grand Duet
2014-07-27 14:30 GMT+03:00 Grand Duet grand.d...@gmail.com: 2014-07-27 13:39 GMT+03:00 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org: On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:21:23PM +0300, Grand Duet wrote This is a continuation of the thread: Something went wrong with DNS, plz help! Now, the issue became clearer,

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Grand Duet
2014-07-27 17:50 GMT+03:00 Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com: On 07/27/2014 04:30 AM, Grand Duet wrote: and also the output of the rc-update show command? # rc-update show alsasound | boot bootmisc | boot dbus | default

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Matti Nykyri
On Jul 27, 2014, at 16:39, Grand Duet grand.d...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-07-27 16:10 GMT+03:00 Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi: On Jul 27, 2014, at 13:33, Grand Duet grand.d...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-07-27 12:29 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:21:23 +0300,

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS tutorial for the brain dead sysadmin?

2014-07-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 26.07.2014 04:47, schrieb walt: So, why did the broken machine work normally for more than a year without rpcbind until two days ago? (I suppose because nfs-utils was updated to 1.3.0 ?) The real problem here is that I have no idea how NFS works, and each new version is more

[gentoo-user] Re: resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread James
Grand Duet grand.duet at gmail.com writes: In short: the contents of the file /etc/resolv.conf is unpredictably different from one reboot to another. It is either # Generated by net-scripts for interface lo domain mynetwork or # Generated by net-scripts for interface eth0

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread meino . cramer
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [14-07-27 16:36]: On Sunday 27 Jul 2014 15:05:53 Dale wrote: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [14-07-27 14:36]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Back to the initial problem: How can I offline test the rest of the disk if the first bad

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS tutorial for the brain dead sysadmin?

2014-07-27 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 27 July 2014 18:25:24 CEST, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 26.07.2014 04:47, schrieb walt: So, why did the broken machine work normally for more than a year without rpcbind until two days ago? (I suppose because nfs-utils was updated to 1.3.0 ?) The real problem here is

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS tutorial for the brain dead sysadmin?

2014-07-27 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 27.07.2014 18:25, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Only last week I re-attacked this topic as I start using puppet here to manage my systems ... and one part of this might be sharing /usr/portage via NFSv4. One client host mounts it without a problem, the thinkpads don't do so ... just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Grand Duet
2014-07-27 19:33 GMT+03:00 James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com: Grand Duet grand.duet at gmail.com writes: In short: the contents of the file /etc/resolv.conf is unpredictably different from one reboot to another. It is either # Generated by net-scripts for interface lo domain

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Kerin Millar
On 27/07/2014 12:30, Grand Duet wrote: 2014-07-27 13:39 GMT+03:00 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org: On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:21:23PM +0300, Grand Duet wrote This is a continuation of the thread: Something went wrong with DNS, plz help! Now, the issue became clearer, so I decided to start a

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:41:15 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: My understanding is that the test only aborts if the error is severe enough to force it to do so. A simple bad block can be skipped and the rest of the drive tested. But it is slightly off the point I tried to explain (I am no

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 13:33:47 +0300, Grand Duet wrote: That's what replaces it when eth0 comes up. It looks like eth0 is not being brought up fully It sounds logical. But how can I fix it? By identifying how far it is getting and why no further. But it appears that eth0 is being brought

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:41:15 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: My understanding is that the test only aborts if the error is severe enough to force it to do so. A simple bad block can be skipped and the rest of the drive tested. But it is slightly off the point I tried

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS tutorial for the brain dead sysadmin?

2014-07-27 Thread Kerin Millar
On 27/07/2014 17:55, J. Roeleveld wrote: On 27 July 2014 18:25:24 CEST, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 26.07.2014 04:47, schrieb walt: So, why did the broken machine work normally for more than a year without rpcbind until two days ago? (I suppose because nfs-utils was updated

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Grand Duet
2014-07-27 21:14 GMT+03:00 Kerin Millar kerfra...@fastmail.co.uk: On 27/07/2014 12:30, Grand Duet wrote: 2014-07-27 13:39 GMT+03:00 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org: On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:21:23PM +0300, Grand Duet wrote This is a continuation of the thread: Something went wrong with

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/27/2014 08:08 AM, Grand Duet wrote: If eth0 starts after lo, then I have the right /etc/resolv.conf file, however if lo starts after eth0, then the DNS IPs in resolv.conf file are overwritten with dummy instruction for lo interface. But, now, after your suggestion, I have looked

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Grand Duet
2014-07-27 22:13 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 13:33:47 +0300, Grand Duet wrote: That's what replaces it when eth0 comes up. It looks like eth0 is not being brought up fully It sounds logical. But how can I fix it? By identifying how far it is getting

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Grand Duet
2014-07-27 23:28 GMT+03:00 Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com: On 07/27/2014 08:08 AM, Grand Duet wrote: If eth0 starts after lo, then I have the right /etc/resolv.conf file, however if lo starts after eth0, then the DNS IPs in resolv.conf file are overwritten with dummy instruction for lo

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 14:20:23 -0500, Dale wrote: Question. Does that mean that the heads can't move past that point? If yes, does that mean the OP can't get any data that is further out than that point? I'm asking hoping I will learn something. I have taken drives apart so I know how the

Re: [gentoo-user] resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Kerin Millar
On 27/07/2014 21:38, Grand Duet wrote: 2014-07-27 22:13 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 13:33:47 +0300, Grand Duet wrote: That's what replaces it when eth0 comes up. It looks like eth0 is not being brought up fully It sounds logical. But how can I fix it?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:33 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: I set my nameservers all manually in this file and they do not every change. I do not run systemd. I'm not sure of your issue(s) but, historically, resolv.conf should not be displaying this behavior. FWIW, systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] wxGTK compilation fails missing thread.h

2014-07-27 Thread Adam Carter
grep MAKEOPTS /etc/portage/make.conf MAKEOPTS=-j3 What value is your MAKEOPTS set to? I have tried -j1 to rule out parallel compilation issues, but it didn't help.

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 14:20:23 -0500, Dale wrote: Question. Does that mean that the heads can't move past that point? If yes, does that mean the OP can't get any data that is further out than that point? I'm asking hoping I will learn something. I have taken drives

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-27 Thread Jc García
2014-07-27 5:29 GMT-06:00 meino.cra...@gmx.de: Back to the initial problem: How can I offline test the rest of the disk if the first bad sector (10%) of the surface breaks the test with an error? Best regards, mcc I've only read this thread not the previous, and I can only give some

Re: [gentoo-user] wxGTK compilation fails missing thread.h

2014-07-27 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On 07/28/2014 04:33 AM, Adam Carter wrote: grep MAKEOPTS /etc/portage/make.conf MAKEOPTS=-j3 What value is your MAKEOPTS set to? I have tried -j1 to rule out parallel compilation issues, but it didn't help. Here's all the 'thread.h' header files I seem to have on my system: