Re: [gentoo-user] Arrh - my KDE look has disappeared

2014-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:47:55 +0800, Andrew Lowe wrote: Fired up the 'puter last night and instead of a backdrop showing the dog doing something stupid, a task bar, the start button thingy, and a few other bits and pieces, I had the default KDE backdrop. The task bar was on the second

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS tutorial for the brain dead sysadmin?

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
oh my bad! Believe me, I did an honest mistake! and I am very sorry for that. Thanks for you help and again, may apologies. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 19:59:16 +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote: I was wondering that is it

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS tutorial for the brain dead sysadmin?

2014-07-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 29 July 2014 12:19:14 behrouz khosravi wrote: oh my bad! Believe me, I did an honest mistake! and I am very sorry for that. Thanks for you help and again, may apologies. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 19:59:16 +0430,

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS tutorial for the brain dead sysadmin?

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
oh, I guess I have to let it be! Thanks.

[gentoo-user] a question about updating process

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
hello everyone. I was trying to emerge chromium and I noticed that it should download about 200 Mb, and no wonder cause it is source files, not binary executable. However I wanted to know that if a new version of chromium comes out, an update will download another 200 Mb or just a diff files to

Re: [gentoo-user] Contradictionary behaviour of SMART on hds ?!?

2014-07-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 27 Jul 2014 17:50:49 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I executed the mkswap/dd combo a several times today. Since I have no logs I repeated again. Here are the results: solfire:/home/usermkswap -L swap -f -c /dev/sda2 1 bad page mkswap: /dev/sda2: warning: wiping old swap signature.

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about updating process

2014-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:38:04 +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote: I was trying to emerge chromium and I noticed that it should download about 200 Mb, and no wonder cause it is source files, not binary executable. However I wanted to know that if a new version of chromium comes out, an update will

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about updating process

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
well chromium was just an example. I just think that when there is a version upgrade, a patch should be enough. I have read that portage is migrating to git, but I guess I got it wrong, because I thought that the source codes will be maintained using git too. However why not? why not use git for

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about updating process

2014-07-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 6:52 AM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: well chromium was just an example. I just think that when there is a version upgrade, a patch should be enough. For things like backports you're fairly likely to only get a patch. However, for an upstream version

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about updating process

2014-07-29 Thread thegeezer
On 29/07/14 12:00, Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 6:52 AM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: well chromium was just an example. I just think that when there is a version upgrade, a patch should be enough. For things like backports you're fairly likely to only get a

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about updating process

2014-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2014 12:52, behrouz khosravi wrote: well chromium was just an example. I just think that when there is a version upgrade, a patch should be enough. I have read that portage is migrating to git, but I guess I got it wrong, because I thought that the source codes will be maintained

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about updating process

2014-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:25:09 +0100, thegeezer wrote: to save yourself the downloads you might want to look into setting up your own PORTAGE_BINHOST that you can redistribute from, but be wary that different devices may require different compile options, so you can sacrifice speed for

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about updating process

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
Thanks every one. I guess I got it know ! And I must say that the way Gentoo is working now, is simple, no doubts. And I am surprised to hear that Gentoo is so strict to follow upstream. I guess it makes it the most vanilla flavored, And I really like it !

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about updating process

2014-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2014 13:45, behrouz khosravi wrote: Thanks every one. I guess I got it know ! And I must say that the way Gentoo is working now, is simple, no doubts. And I am surprised to hear that Gentoo is so strict to follow upstream. I guess it makes it the most vanilla flavored, And I

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about updating process

2014-07-29 Thread Ján Zahornadský
There used to be this tool, deltup, that was providing binary patches given what versions you have already downloaded and what you are trying to download, which sounds like something that would answer your question. However, the project have somehow become quiet, probably as the bandwidth and

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about updating process

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
However, the project have somehow become quiet, probably as the bandwidth and data volumes are no longer such an issue. thanks for your help, however bandwidth is always an issue for me and it seems that always will be! unfortunately I am living in Iran, which means low speed and high price!

[gentoo-user] modules.devname not found...

2014-07-29 Thread Jarry
Hi Gentoo-users, I just installed Gentoo on one more system and everything seems to be OK except for one strange boot-up message between Mounting /dev/shm and Mounting /sys: * Creating list of required static device nodes for the current kernel... Warning:

[gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
Hello everyone. I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo! So far so good! Before installing on my laptop and desktop, I am trying on virtual box and the system is running Fluxbox very good.(default profile) Now I am thinking about managing USE flags. What if I disable everything

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread Philip Webb
140729 behrouz khosravi wrote: I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo! ^ 'conquered' (smile) : 'concur' = 'agree'. So far so good! Yes, it's not difficult, but it's a sort of initiation test. Before installing on my laptop and desktop, I am trying on virtual box

Re: [gentoo-user] modules.devname not found...

2014-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:25:15 +0200, Jarry wrote: * Creating list of required static device nodes for the current kernel... Warning: /lib/modules/3.12.21-gentoo-r1/modules.devname not found - ignor What does it mean and how can I get rid of it? By creating the missing

Re: [gentoo-user] modules.devname not found...

2014-07-29 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 29/07/14 20:22, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:25:15 +0200, Jarry wrote: * Creating list of required static device nodes for the current kernel... Warning: /lib/modules/3.12.21-gentoo-r1/modules.devname not found - ignor What does it mean and how can I

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 21:34:04 +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote: Now I am thinking about managing USE flags. What if I disable everything in the make.conf ( I mean USE=-* ) and gradually add the needed flags to package.use? You may well break your system, but you get to keep the pieces as a

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
Also, when setting up a new system, make USE flag changes gradually. Unless you are sure of what you are doing, only change a few at a time. Haha, just got frustrated with how much junk is on my machine and globally disabled perl, python, ruby, and a bunch of other stuff. Bad times ensued ;).

Re: [gentoo-user] modules.devname not found...

2014-07-29 Thread Jarry
On 29-Jul-14 19:25, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 29/07/14 20:22, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 18:25:15 +0200, Jarry wrote: * Creating list of required static device nodes for the current kernel... Warning: /lib/modules/3.12.21-gentoo-r1/modules.devname not found - ignor

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ECC-ram, it is worth it.

2014-07-29 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:00:26PM -0700, Edward MN wrote: On 07/26/14 15:55, walt wrote: On 07/26/2014 10:39 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: [894019.770058] [Hardware Error]: MC4 Error (node 0): DRAM ECC error detected on the NB. […] and this, my children, is why I am using ECC ram.

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: 140729 behrouz khosravi wrote: ^ 'conquered' (smile) : 'concur' = 'agree'. Sorry. Now it is obvious English is not my mother tongue! regards.

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 09:34:04PM +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote Hello everyone. I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo! So far so good! Before installing on my laptop and desktop, I am trying on virtual box and the system is running Fluxbox very good.(default profile) Now

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
Portage profiles set some default USE flags, then some ebuilds also set defaults. Using USE=-* disables all of these. You can see the defaults I have noticed that some packages have flags that I have not set, but I though that they were the default flags for that package. You mean those flags

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag, 29. Juli 2014, 19:04:04 schrieb behrouz khosravi: Now I am thinking about managing USE flags. What if I disable everything in the make.conf ( I mean USE=-* ) and gradually add the needed flags to package.use? The default profile is what you need. Please don't do USE=-*. It

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2014 22:16, Walter Dnes wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 09:34:04PM +0430, behrouz khosravi wrote Hello everyone. I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing gentoo! So far so good! Before installing on my laptop and desktop, I am trying on virtual box and the system is running

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread Philip Webb
140730 behrouz khosravi wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: 140729 behrouz khosravi wrote: ^ 'conquered' (smile) : 'concur' = 'agree'. Sorry. No need at all ! -- You said you wanted to learn (at the end) ! Now it is obvious English is not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ECC-ram, it is worth it.

2014-07-29 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 29.07.2014 20:18, schrieb Frank Steinmetzger: On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:00:26PM -0700, Edward MN wrote: On 07/26/14 15:55, walt wrote: On 07/26/2014 10:39 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: [894019.770058] [Hardware Error]: MC4 Error (node 0): DRAM ECC error detected on the NB. […] and

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: In my make.conf I have... USE_BASE=-* a52 aac bzip2 cxx fortran ncurses netifrc nptl nptlonly nsplugin offensive openssl posix readline ssl threads vim-syntax zlib USE_CPU=mmx mmxext sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 USE_VIDEO=X

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: I suspect that may be true of a majority of Gentooers : we're all used to interpreting others' words trying to be careful to be clear when we do know English well. I will be very happy to be a part of this great

Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

2014-07-29 Thread behrouz khosravi
Thank you all. I have concluded that I should stay with the base profile. Although I need a desktop, but this decision will be closest to what I want in a harmless way! (at least less harm!) Then I will add CPU specific and very frequent flags to make.conf and gradually extend the package.use