Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bloated by gcc

2014-09-30 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, September 29, 2014 12:37:37 AM Jorge Almeida wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:56 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/28/2014 01:44 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote: I'm having a somewhat disgusting issue on my Gentoo: binaries are unaccountably large. Are you cross-compiling for

Re: [gentoo-user] phpmyadmin - upgrading

2014-09-30 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Saturday, September 27, 2014 11:03:48 AM Joseph wrote: After upgrade of phpmyadmin, I think it was installed correctly: This is an upgrade phpmyadmin-4.1.7 is already installed - upgrading Running /usr/sbin/webapp-config -U -h localhost -u root -d /phpmyadmin phpmyadmin 4.1.14.3 INFO:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bloated by gcc

2014-09-30 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:04 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Did you compile the used libraries using the exact same options on both systems as well? When compiling a static binary, the libraries are included into the resulting binary. If the libraries on Gentoo are bigger, the

Re: [gentoo-user] Running a program on a headless computer ?

2014-09-30 Thread meino . cramer
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk [14-09-28 20:44]: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:13:51 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I want to run programs, which insist on haveing a terminal to write their status to and which are writing files which their results on a headless computer (beaglebone). I

Re: [gentoo-user] I'm trying to emerge polkit, now it wants to bring in all of KDE

2014-09-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 29 September 2014 20:23:49 Neil Bothwick wrote: Alternatively, switch to a standard desktop profile, get X working, then switch profiles and emerge your KDE packages. Or, even, don't switch profiles. I have this: $ eselect profile list Available profile symlink targets: [1]

[gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, For a device (beaglebone black) I am looking for a solution of the following problem: This little computer boots a fully blown Gentoo linux. It is used mostly as headless device (capturing data from attached sensors). From time to time I want access it via LAN. If the device was booted

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread wraeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/09/14 20:12, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Is there a way to check, whether a RJ45 was plugged into the device and if so to start init-script then? You could use a network management daemon that works on device status such as

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 30 Sep 2014 11:12:34 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, For a device (beaglebone black) I am looking for a solution of the following problem: This little computer boots a fully blown Gentoo linux. It is used mostly as headless device (capturing data from attached sensors). From

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread thegeezer
On 30/09/14 11:21, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 30 Sep 2014 11:12:34 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards, mcc Typically used on laptops: [I] sys-apps/ifplugd Available versions: 0.28-r9 [doc selinux] Installed versions:

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread meino . cramer
thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net [14-09-30 12:32]: On 30/09/14 11:21, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 30 Sep 2014 11:12:34 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards, mcc Typically used on laptops: [I] sys-apps/ifplugd Available versions:

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:39:06 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: [I] sys-apps/ifplugd Available versions: 0.28-r9 [doc selinux] Installed versions: 0.28-r9(11:14:57 12/18/10)(-doc) Homepage: http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/ifplugd/

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread meino . cramer
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk [14-09-30 12:44]: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:39:06 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: [I] sys-apps/ifplugd Available versions: 0.28-r9 [doc selinux] Installed versions: 0.28-r9(11:14:57 12/18/10)(-doc) Homepage:

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread meino . cramer
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk [14-09-30 12:44]: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:39:06 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: [I] sys-apps/ifplugd Available versions: 0.28-r9 [doc selinux] Installed versions: 0.28-r9(11:14:57 12/18/10)(-doc) Homepage:

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:49:44 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: If you use openrc, you only need to install one of these programs, not configure or set it to run. OpenRC detects that one of these programs is available and uses it to do exactly what you need. Unfortunately, ntp-client is

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 30 Sep 2014 12:49:44 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk [14-09-30 12:44]: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:39:06 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: [I] sys-apps/ifplugd Available versions: 0.28-r9 [doc selinux]

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 30 Sep 2014 13:09:55 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:49:44 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: If you use openrc, you only need to install one of these programs, not configure or set it to run. OpenRC detects that one of these programs is available and uses it to do

[gentoo-user] Re: another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread James
meino.cramer at gmx.de writes: Unfortunately, ntp-client is configured via rc-update (added to default) but after plugging in LAN the interface eth0 comes up and I have access via ssh...but the date is set to the beginnig of the UNIX epoch. I have to call ntp-client by hand. Meino,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread meino . cramer
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com [14-09-30 14:24]: meino.cramer at gmx.de writes: Unfortunately, ntp-client is configured via rc-update (added to default) but after plugging in LAN the interface eth0 comes up and I have access via ssh...but the date is set to the beginnig of the UNIX

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:16:48 +0100, Mick wrote: Do you know of any difference between netplug and ifplug? Pros Cons kind of thing, or are they identical in their operation? I installed ifplugd and it just worked, so I've never tried netplug. But openrc does the work now, it just uses those

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:34:28 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: ...the system has no built-in RTC which still runs if the system is powered off. After power is up and eth0 is alive, the time/date has to be set via ntp-client. The rest already working. I called /etc/init.d/ntp-client

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread wraeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/09/14 22:37, Neil Bothwick wrote: The trouble with any program that polls regularly, as I assume chrony does, is that you have a window between the interface coming up and the clock being set. It makes more sense to me to use postup() to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread wraeth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/09/14 22:39, wraeth wrote: FWIW, there's a dispatcher script you can use (at least with NM) that calls chrony and sets it to online mode. Sorry, to clarify: when NetworkManager comes online, it can execute scripts placed in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread meino . cramer
wraeth wra...@wraeth.id.au [14-09-30 14:44]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 30/09/14 22:39, wraeth wrote: FWIW, there's a dispatcher script you can use (at least with NM) that calls chrony and sets it to online mode. Sorry, to clarify: when NetworkManager comes

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread Kerin Millar
On 30/09/2014 12:49, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk [14-09-30 12:44]: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:39:06 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: [I] sys-apps/ifplugd Available versions: 0.28-r9[doc selinux] Installed versions: 0.28-r9(11:14:57

[gentoo-user] root on newest livedvd ?

2014-09-30 Thread James
livedvd-amd64-multilib-20140826.iso The old livedvd, to get root access it was sudo su - which does not see to work. Ideas on the new syntax to get root access. Also, is it straightforward to install a secondary ebuild package on this latest livedvd that is not part of the iso? curiously,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread Poison BL.
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 8:34 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com [14-09-30 14:24]: Meino, Make sure your system time (hwclock) is properly set upon bootup. Since you are running on an embedded hardware board, I'd look at those docs and find a forum as to the

[gentoo-user] Re: root on newest livedvd ?

2014-09-30 Thread James
Todd Goodman tsg at bonedaddy.net writes: livedvd-amd64-multilib-20140826.iso The old livedvd, to get root access it was sudo su - Doesn't just 'su -' (no sudo) work? It works, but prompts for a password which I do cannot find the default password. So no. I'm not sure what the gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread meino . cramer
Kerin Millar kerfra...@fastmail.co.uk [14-09-30 15:08]: On 30/09/2014 12:49, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk [14-09-30 12:44]: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:39:06 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: [I] sys-apps/ifplugd Available versions: 0.28-r9

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread Kerin Millar
On 30/09/2014 14:46, Kerin Millar wrote: On 30/09/2014 14:42, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Kerin Millar kerfra...@fastmail.co.uk [14-09-30 15:08]: On 30/09/2014 12:49, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk [14-09-30 12:44]: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:39:06 +0200,

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:46:46 +0100, Kerin Millar wrote: depend() { before cron portmap after eth0 use dns logger } for after XYZ I set net net.eth0 eth0 and none worked for me... Using 'after' won't work unless both net.eth0

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread Kerin Millar
On 30/09/2014 14:58, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:46:46 +0100, Kerin Millar wrote: depend() { before cron portmap after eth0 use dns logger } for after XYZ I set net net.eth0 eth0 and none worked for me... Using 'after' won't

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread Kerin Millar
On 30/09/2014 14:42, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Kerin Millar kerfra...@fastmail.co.uk [14-09-30 15:08]: On 30/09/2014 12:49, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk [14-09-30 12:44]: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:39:06 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: [I] sys-apps/ifplugd

Re: [gentoo-user] root on newest livedvd ?

2014-09-30 Thread Jc GarcĂ­a
2014-09-30 7:09 GMT-06:00 James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com: livedvd-amd64-multilib-20140826.iso A quick search gave me: The old livedvd, to get root access it was sudo su - which does not see to work. Ideas on the new syntax to get root access.

Re: [gentoo-user] root on newest livedvd ?

2014-09-30 Thread Todd Goodman
* James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com [140930 09:10]: livedvd-amd64-multilib-20140826.iso The old livedvd, to get root access it was sudo su - which does not see to work. Ideas on the new syntax to get root access. Also, is it straightforward to install a secondary ebuild package on

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 15:00:39 +0100, Kerin Millar wrote: Using 'after' won't work unless both net.eth0 and ntp-client are in the default runlevel. Obviously, that condition is not satisfied if you are using ifplugd. Please try the solution mentioned in my previous post. It should work.

[gentoo-user] Headless question: Harvesting the results...software needed.

2014-09-30 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, with lot of help of this forum (***TAHNKS!***) I now have a embedded device which is able to dis/connect itsself from/to the LAN, set the clock via ntp-client and is able to fire up a tool, which collects data from sensors and put those into a file ... even if the tool has no connection to a

Re: [gentoo-user] Headless question: Harvesting the results...software needed.

2014-09-30 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 09/30/2014 10:05 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Suppose the GPS would already be attached to the board and works... Is there any free available software and data for strict offline useage (which does NOT calls to home), which is able to map GPS data to a street/land map? I need both:

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread Kerin Millar
On 30/09/2014 15:03, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 15:00:39 +0100, Kerin Millar wrote: Using 'after' won't work unless both net.eth0 and ntp-client are in the default runlevel. Obviously, that condition is not satisfied if you are using ifplugd. Please try the solution mentioned in

Re: [gentoo-user] another headless device-question: In search of the LAN

2014-09-30 Thread meino . cramer
Kerin Millar kerfra...@fastmail.co.uk [14-09-30 16:04]: On 30/09/2014 14:58, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:46:46 +0100, Kerin Millar wrote: depend() { before cron portmap after eth0 use dns logger } for after XYZ I set net

Re: [gentoo-user] root on newest livedvd ?

2014-09-30 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:09 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: livedvd-amd64-multilib-20140826.iso The old livedvd, to get root access it was sudo su - which does not see to work. Ideas on the new syntax to get root access. How about sudo -i or sudo -s?

Re: [gentoo-user] Headless question: Harvesting the results...software needed.

2014-09-30 Thread Matti Nykyri
On Sep 30, 2014, at 17:12, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On 09/30/2014 10:05 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Suppose the GPS would already be attached to the board and works... Is there any free available software and data for strict offline useage (which does NOT calls

Re: [gentoo-user] Headless question: Harvesting the results...software needed.

2014-09-30 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 30 September 2014 16:12:31 CEST, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On 09/30/2014 10:05 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Suppose the GPS would already be attached to the board and works... Is there any free available software and data for strict offline useage (which does NOT

Re: [gentoo-user] Headless question: Harvesting the results...software needed.

2014-09-30 Thread Matti Nykyri
On Sep 30, 2014, at 17:12, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On 09/30/2014 10:05 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Suppose the GPS would already be attached to the board and works... Is there any free available software and data for strict offline useage (which does NOT

Re: [gentoo-user] Headless question: Harvesting the results...software needed.

2014-09-30 Thread Matti Nykyri
On Sep 30, 2014, at 20:36, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On 30 September 2014 16:12:31 CEST, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On 09/30/2014 10:05 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Suppose the GPS would already be attached to the board and works... Is there any

Re: [gentoo-user] Headless question: Harvesting the results...software needed.

2014-09-30 Thread meino . cramer
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org [14-09-30 19:40]: On 30 September 2014 16:12:31 CEST, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On 09/30/2014 10:05 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Suppose the GPS would already be attached to the board and works... Is there any free available

Re: [gentoo-user] Headless question: Harvesting the results...software needed.

2014-09-30 Thread meino . cramer
Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi [14-09-30 19:44]: On Sep 30, 2014, at 17:12, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On 09/30/2014 10:05 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Suppose the GPS would already be attached to the board and works... Is there any free available

Re: [gentoo-user] Headless question: Harvesting the results...software needed.

2014-09-30 Thread thegeezer
On 30/09/14 15:05, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, with lot of help of this forum (***TAHNKS!***) I now have a embedded device which is able to dis/connect itsself from/to the LAN, set the clock via ntp-client and is able to fire up a tool, which collects data from sensors and put those into

Re: [gentoo-user] Headless question: Harvesting the results...software needed.

2014-09-30 Thread meino . cramer
thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net [14-09-30 20:24]: On 30/09/14 15:05, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, with lot of help of this forum (***TAHNKS!***) I now have a embedded device which is able to dis/connect itsself from/to the LAN, set the clock via ntp-client and is able to fire up a

Re: [gentoo-user] Headless question: Harvesting the results...software needed.

2014-09-30 Thread Matti Nykyri
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 08:12:38PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi [14-09-30 19:44]: On Sep 30, 2014, at 17:12, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On 09/30/2014 10:05 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Suppose the GPS would

Re: [gentoo-user] Headless question: Harvesting the results...software needed.

2014-09-30 Thread meino . cramer
Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi [14-10-01 00:26]: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 08:12:38PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi [14-09-30 19:44]: On Sep 30, 2014, at 17:12, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On 09/30/2014 10:05