[gentoo-user] [OT] KDE desktop vanishing

2014-11-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, Does anyone know why, sometimes, when I log in to KDE via KDM, all my applications have disappeared? Sometimes they're visible in the task bar but clicking on one doesn't bring it up, and sometimes the task bar is blank. Sometimes logging out and in again used to fix it, nowadays

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] KDE desktop vanishing

2014-11-05 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:31:39 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, Does anyone know why, sometimes, when I log in to KDE via KDM, all my applications have disappeared? Sometimes they're visible in the task bar but clicking on one doesn't bring it up, and sometimes the task bar is

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] KDE desktop vanishing

2014-11-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 05 November 2014 12:32:53 J. Roeleveld wrote: On Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:31:39 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, Does anyone know why, sometimes, when I log in to KDE via KDM, all my applications have disappeared? Sometimes they're visible in the task bar but

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] KDE desktop vanishing

2014-11-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 05 November 2014 13:26:11 I wrote: On Wednesday 05 November 2014 12:32:53 J. Roeleveld wrote: On Wednesday, November 05, 2014 10:31:39 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, Does anyone know why, sometimes, when I log in to KDE via KDM, all my applications have

[gentoo-user] Re: The end of

2014-11-05 Thread James
Michael Orlitzky mjo at gentoo.org writes: This is exactly the problem we're trying to solve (and I'm sorry to hear it, many of us have been in a similar position). Yep. The point is not to bemoan the issue, but steer gentoo into a direction where those who are not devs (for whatever reason)

[gentoo-user] Re: Nagios testers wanted

2014-11-05 Thread James
Michael Orlitzky mjo at gentoo.org writes: We're collecting more and more Nagios bugs every day, and we've been stuck on the 3.x series for a while even though upstream has moved to 4.x. The main problem as far as I can see is that nagios-plugins is a big mess, and it's hard for any one

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nagios testers wanted

2014-11-05 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 11/05/2014 11:42 AM, James wrote: Um, I'm not up on the results of the Nagios user revolt (fork) from a few years ago. Maybe if you clarify that recent history more folks would be interested in Nagios? If no one is interested, that's great -- I can push my changes with reckless abandon =)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The end of

2014-11-05 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 11/05/2014 10:55 AM, James wrote: For you personally, I would try to find one or two people on the Java project (actually working on Java right now) and explain to them that you'd like to help close old bugs. Then you can CC or reassign the Java bugs to those people. When bug mail gets

[gentoo-user] Re: Nagios testers wanted

2014-11-05 Thread James
Michael Orlitzky mjo at gentoo.org writes: that, so I haven't worried too much about the politics. Us old farts, call that:: wisdom. Surely you are wise. That said, over the years, the dispostion of the main{} is everything in a project. Even with projects that lack coders, but have vision.

[gentoo-user] Re: The end of

2014-11-05 Thread James
Michael Orlitzky mjo at gentoo.org writes: 1. See who's active in the Java overlay. This one's easy. $ git clone git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/java.git $ cd java $ git log agreed. 2. Check who's been making commits under dev-java. $ cd

[gentoo-user] Re: The end of

2014-11-05 Thread James
James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: Also you did not OOps, I was interrupted here. Should have been: Also, you did not illuminate how I can form a cluster project, if the exisiting cluster-herd does not request to be converted to the gentoo cluster-project. Surely we have a container

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The end of

2014-11-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 2:14 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Surely we have a container project now, but no active cluster herd or project. I think that is very important, so if one does not materialize, then how do users (commoners) go about creating one? Please keep this question

[gentoo-user] Re: The end of

2014-11-05 Thread James
Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org writes: Surely we have a container project now, but no active cluster herd or project. In any FOSS activity the #1 issue tends to be people willing to do the work. If we have that, then there is no reason to let anything else stand in the way. There

Re: [gentoo-user] using python 2.7

2014-11-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 18:01:57 -0600, Dale wrote: For future reference, make sure nothing depends on whatever version of python you want to remove before you remove it. If you don't, it could get very interesting in a really bad way. The simplest way to do that, with any package you want to

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] KDE desktop vanishing

2014-11-05 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 05 November 2014 13:26:11 I wrote: If you mean .kde4, no I don't copy that, on the assumption that it would include whatever quirk had caused my vanishing-desktop problem. Now this is getting weirder. Just now I followed the clicks to create a new activity,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Nagios testers wanted

2014-11-05 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 11/05/2014 11:42 AM, James wrote: Let's make a deal. Lots of folks are trying to get Nagios running on Mesos/spark as a cluster based tool. Have your (hacks) efforts focoused on runnning Nagios on a mesos/spark cluster? My good friend and dev-in-making Alec has graticiouly put working

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] KDE desktop vanishing

2014-11-05 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 05.11.2014 um 11:31 schrieb Peter Humphrey: Hello list, Does anyone know why, sometimes, when I log in to KDE via KDM, all my applications have disappeared? Sometimes they're visible in the task bar but clicking on one doesn't bring it up, and sometimes the task bar is blank. Sometimes

[gentoo-user] Re: Nagios testers wanted

2014-11-05 Thread walt
On 11/05/2014 09:42 AM, James wrote: Us old farts, call that:: wisdom Is that Haskell?

[gentoo-user] Re: Nagios testers wanted

2014-11-05 Thread James
walt w41ter at gmail.com writes: On 11/05/2014 09:42 AM, James wrote: Us old farts, call that:: wisdom Is that Haskell? Maybe. My new linguas are Scala and R on Spark [1]. And those have me burried alive. My sleep hours have me cast in a sparse matrix schema. Haskill :: beyond my scope

Re: [gentoo-user] using python 2.7

2014-11-05 Thread wraeth
On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 20:59 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 18:01:57 -0600, Dale wrote: For future reference, make sure nothing depends on whatever version of python you want to remove before you remove it. If you don't, it could get very interesting in a really bad way.