Re: [gentoo-user] zsh: not so bad?

2015-07-12 Thread Andrew Tselischev
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 06:52:35PM -0700, walt wrote: Maybe someone here has missed the recent discussion of zsh? ;) I just found this website, giving a wonderful primer on how to configure zsh: http://wiki.redbrick.dcu.ie/mw/Account_Customisation_(zsh) Disclaimer: I have no idea who

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote: Am Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:48:48 -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org: If it weren't painful to set up and complicated for rescue attempts, I'd just use full-disk encryption with a strong key on a flash drive or similar.

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 15:21:41 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: While some kind of native support would be nice, and likely more efficient in some ways, you could just layer btrfs on top of an encrypted loopback device. The problem with that approach, if you use RAID, is that all writes must be

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 12.07.2015 um 21:14 schrieb Rich Freeman: On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: actually 1 time is enough. With zeros. Or ones. Does not matter at all. That depends on your threat model. nope. It doesn't. You believe in some urban legend

Re: [gentoo-user] lvmetad Errors

2015-07-12 Thread Daniel Frey
On 07/12/2015 12:25 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's because the RAID abilities built into most motherboards are really shitty. Very little, if any, optimization going on, no real intelligence, and the whole thing just looks and feels like it's no more than 2 or more volumes shoved into one

[gentoo-user] Re: php (error?)

2015-07-12 Thread James
Mick michaelkintzios at gmail.com writes: Did you start an emerge of php and then looked in your /var/tmp/portage to find it? No. I was hoping it was a common issue for folks up on php. Yea, I'll keep digging Since I found several dead(links) ends I was also hoping it just old cruft

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread R0b0t1
@topic: I would strongly suggest using a hardware key that also utilizes a passphrase. To delete, remove the key and/or don't tell anyone the passphrase. If you need to destroy a platter drive take it apart and sand the platters (probably the easiest). If it's solid state heat the drive over

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Unlike you, I read some stuff before posting. This is OLD NEWS: No need to be rude. http://www.howtogeek.com/115573/htg-explains-why-you-only-have-to-wipe-a-disk-once-to-erase-it/

Re: [gentoo-user] lvmetad Errors

2015-07-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/07/2015 22:46, Daniel Frey wrote: On 07/12/2015 12:25 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's because the RAID abilities built into most motherboards are really shitty. Very little, if any, optimization going on, no real intelligence, and the whole thing just looks and feels like it's no more

Re: [gentoo-user] lvmetad Errors

2015-07-12 Thread Alex Thorne
I'm afraid I won't be testing it any time soon -- I don't have any drives to pair at the moment. As for your comments about dmraid being 'fake', I'm a little confused. From what you say it sounds like this is the hardware RAID that comes with many motherboards. Why is hardware RAID undesirable

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: actually 1 time is enough. With zeros. Or ones. Does not matter at all. That depends on your threat model. If you're concerned about somebody reading the contents of the drive using the standard ATA

Re: [gentoo-user] lvmetad Errors

2015-07-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/07/2015 20:51, Alex Thorne wrote: I'm afraid I won't be testing it any time soon -- I don't have any drives to pair at the moment. As for your comments about dmraid being 'fake', I'm a little confused. From what you say it sounds like this is the hardware RAID that comes with many

[gentoo-user] php (error?)

2015-07-12 Thread James
Hello, So lately I've been using elogv for a convenience way to ensure no issues with the most recent packages installed or upgraded. It's a neat little tool. Today I found this: dev-lang/php-5.6.10 - 07/10/2015{in purple} snipped:: This package has a configure.in file which has long

Re: [gentoo-user] php (error?)

2015-07-12 Thread Mick
On Sunday 12 Jul 2015 20:40:35 James wrote: Hello, So lately I've been using elogv for a convenience way to ensure no issues with the most recent packages installed or upgraded. It's a neat little tool. Today I found this: dev-lang/php-5.6.10 - 07/10/2015{in purple} snipped::

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 12.07.2015 um 23:10 schrieb Rich Freeman: On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Unlike you, I read some stuff before posting. This is OLD NEWS: No need to be rude.

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: read the second link I provided. I did. It contains no theoretical arguments against the possibility of data recovery. Theoretical limits would be ones like the uncertainty principle. If a given amount of

Re: [gentoo-user] php (error?)

2015-07-12 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 07/12/2015 03:40 PM, James wrote: Makes sense; but I cannot find the file. I get lots of hits for a configure.in in my code trees, but little on the rest of the system; here are the few: It doesn't get installed. Just like how ./configure creates your Makefile, there's something that the

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Thomas Mueller
All that has been said on this thread supposes that the hard drive is still readable and writable. But the original post stated this was a failed drive. Then you might not be able to dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx .. or whatever else. You would be stopped by bad sectors. Or a hard drive might

[gentoo-user] zsh: not so bad?

2015-07-12 Thread walt
Maybe someone here has missed the recent discussion of zsh? ;) I just found this website, giving a wonderful primer on how to configure zsh: http://wiki.redbrick.dcu.ie/mw/Account_Customisation_(zsh) Disclaimer: I have no idea who they are, but I found this article very helpful indeed, and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: php (error?)

2015-07-12 Thread wraeth
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 09:57:50PM +, James wrote: Mick michaelkintzios at gmail.com writes: Did you start an emerge of php and then looked in your /var/tmp/portage to find it? No. I was hoping it was a common issue for folks up on php. Yea, I'll keep digging Since I found

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-12 Thread Martin Vaeth
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: I agree. Being able to customise is good, but the defaults should be sensible and appealing to new users. Yes, but not only new users but also not breaking expectations of old users are important - it is a subtle balance, and shells tend to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 6:22 PM, R0b0t1 r03...@gmail.com wrote: But, simpler: if you combine a random stream of data with what is on the drive, the result looks just like random data. You need only overwrite the drive once. I think that assumes that the two get averaged together in some way

[gentoo-user] Anyone's kernel getting panicky????

2015-07-12 Thread Andrew Lowe
Hi all, Just did an eix-sync followed by an emerge -NuD world and then the manual kernel, nvidia drivers build and grub2 fixup. When I rebooted I got a kernel panic. It appears to be very early on in the process as I get minimal stuff flashing up the screen before the panic. Any thoughts

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote: My question is how precisely the disks should be cleared. From various sources I know that overwriting them with random data a few times is enough to render old versions of data unreadable. I'm guessing 3 times ought to be

[gentoo-user] crowdunding

2015-07-12 Thread behrouz khosravi
Hello everyone. My question is not about gentoo, sorry! I wanted to know what is your idea about crowdfunding to provide a well design fire backbone ? Do you think people will accept the idea?

[gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Marc Joliet
Hi, I have to failed drives that I want to give away for recycling purposes, but want to be sure to properly clear them first. They used be part of a btrfs RAID10 array, but needed to be replaced (with btrfs replace). (In the meantime I converted the array to RAID1 with only two drives.) My

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Mick
On Sunday 12 Jul 2015 13:35:25 Marc Joliet wrote: Hi, I have to failed drives that I want to give away for recycling purposes, but want to be sure to properly clear them first. They used be part of a btrfs RAID10 array, but needed to be replaced (with btrfs replace). (In the meantime I

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Francisco Ares
Em 12/07/2015 10:03, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com escreveu: On Sunday 12 Jul 2015 13:35:25 Marc Joliet wrote: Hi, I have to failed drives that I want to give away for recycling purposes, but want to be sure to properly clear them first. They used be part of a btrfs RAID10 array, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Marc Joliet
(Thanks to everyone for the replies so far!) Am Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:48:48 -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org: On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote: My question is how precisely the disks should be cleared. From various sources I know that

Re: [gentoo-user] Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 12.07.2015 um 14:35 schrieb Marc Joliet: Hi, I have to failed drives that I want to give away for recycling purposes, but want to be sure to properly clear them first. They used be part of a btrfs RAID10 array, but needed to be replaced (with btrfs replace). (In the meantime I converted

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-12 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/07/15 23:56, Martin Vaeth wrote: Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: I really don't have time to learn arcane settings anymore. That's why it is good that you can adapt the shell completely to your needs: My opinion is that the computer must adapt to *my* habits and not vice

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone else having a problem with bash?

2015-07-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 19:52:34 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: It is with shells as with editors: Whatever is the default, quite a lot of people will not be satisfied with it. I disagree. It should work out of the box. People can change it later. Having it not work at all is just