Re: [gentoo-user] llvm / clang compile error

2016-08-16 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On 08/16/2016 04:43 PM, Silvio Siefke wrote: > Hello, > > I'm trying to install llvm for days. But all versions fail with the > error message "internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus)". > > The last lines in the build log. > > [1820/2304] /usr/lib64/ccache/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/08/2016 18:40, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Peter Humphrey > wrote: >> On Tuesday 16 Aug 2016 16:58:20 hw wrote: >> >>> The messages are cryptic, and you have to guess what they are trying to >>> tell you. >> >> *Guess?* Good God, man. You

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/08/2016 20:04, Mick wrote: > The longest I've taken to update a server was around 6 months - I was > planning > to retire it, but plans changed. If anything it tested my memory, because I > came across each and every problem I had come across when I was updating my > other systems in

Re: [gentoo-user] Sweet Sweet Portage

2016-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/08/2016 19:14, Willie M wrote: > On 08/16/2016 03:06 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 16/08/2016 02:24, james wrote: >>> Please post the output of layman -l >>> alunduil >>> java >>> pentoo >>> science >>> sunrise >>> torbrower >>> ultrabug >>> xmw >> >> >> That's what I thought. I reckon

[gentoo-user] llvm / clang compile error

2016-08-16 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, I'm trying to install llvm for days. But all versions fail with the error message "internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus)". The last lines in the build log. [1820/2304] /usr/lib64/ccache/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -DCLANG_ENABLE_ARCMT -DCLANG_ENABLE_OBJC_REWRITER

Re: [gentoo-user] Sweet Sweet Portage

2016-08-16 Thread james
On 08/16/2016 02:49 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On 08/15/2016 06:02 PM, james wrote: Well, I brought this up before. No need for argument, just test it out for yourself. Multiple times (over the last few weeks) I have run 'emerge -uDNvp @world' and there are issues to deal with manually.

Re: [gentoo-user] Sweet Sweet Portage

2016-08-16 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On 08/15/2016 06:02 PM, james wrote: > Well, > > I brought this up before. No need for argument, just test it out > for yourself. > > Multiple times (over the last few weeks) I have run 'emerge -uDNvp @world' > and there are issues to deal with manually. > > For example 'One or more

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/16/2016 10:58 AM, hw wrote: > > Three months is not "ridiculously outdated", yet the update doesn´t work. > 1.5 years isn´t "ridiculously outdated", either --- maybe a bit old, but > what´s the problem? > >> Of course, you'll have to deal with new/renamed/moved/gone packages >> and such

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 16 Aug 2016 12:24:40 Michael Mol wrote: > On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 11:19:27 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > > My workstation updates on a cron job every day at 6PM. I check my email > > > in > > > the morning to

Re: [gentoo-user] Sweet Sweet Portage

2016-08-16 Thread Willie M
On 08/16/2016 03:06 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 16/08/2016 02:24, james wrote: >> >>> Please post the output of layman -l >> alunduil >> java >> pentoo >> science >> sunrise >> torbrower >> ultrabug >> xmw > > > That's what I thought. I reckon I know what your problem is. > > > And the

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 16 Aug 2016 16:58:20 hw wrote: > >> The messages are cryptic, and you have to guess what they are trying to >> tell you. > > *Guess?* Good God, man. You don't guess - you use your experience and your >

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Michael Mol
On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 11:19:27 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > My workstation updates on a cron job every day at 6PM. I check my email in > > the morning to see if it ran into any trouble, correct whatever it > >

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 16:29:45 +0200, hw wrote: > >> About 1.5 years --- not really a long time. > > > > You're kidding, right? You're running a production server without the > > last 18 months' worth of security updates? > > What can you do when you don´t have the time to do the updates, On

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 16:58:20 +0200, hw wrote: > Perhaps you can do that when you´re an expert user of the packagage > management and have lots of time on your hands. I just need to update. This is what makes us think Gentoo is not the right choice for you. > It would already be much easier if

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 16 Aug 2016 16:58:20 hw wrote: > Three months is not "ridiculously outdated", yet the update doesn´t work. Three months *is* a dangerously long time to leave a Gentoo system, whether you like it or not, and just asking for trouble. Eighteen months is worse than ridiculous - it's

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > My workstation updates on a cron job every day at 6PM. I check my email in the > morning to see if it ran into any trouble, correct whatever it complained > about, and let it try again the next evening. > I think you're

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Michael Mol
On Tuesday, August 16, 2016 04:29:45 PM hw wrote: > Neil Bothwick schrieb: > > On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 16:26:21 +0200, hw wrote: > >>> If you see this now, your production server hasn't been updated for a > >>> long time... > >> > >> About 1.5 years --- not really a long time. > > > > You're

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread hw
james schrieb: On 08/10/2016 06:54 AM, hw wrote: Hi, I´m trying to upgrade portage because I´m getting a message that it needs to be able to work with EAPI 6 packages and can only do EAPI 5. I´m running into merge conflicts when trying to update portage, and apparently one of the packages

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread hw
David Haller schrieb: Hello, On Sat, 13 Aug 2016, Andreas K. Hüttel wrote: Am Mittwoch, 10. August 2016, 12:54:37 schrieb hw: I?m trying to upgrade portage because I?m getting a message that it needs to be able to work with EAPI 6 packages and can only do EAPI 5. [..] If you see this now,

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Daniel Frey
On 08/16/2016 07:29 AM, hw wrote: > Neil Bothwick schrieb: >> On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 16:26:21 +0200, hw wrote: >> If you see this now, your production server hasn't been updated for a long time... >>> >>> About 1.5 years --- not really a long time. >> >> You're kidding, right? You're

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread hw
Neil Bothwick schrieb: On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 16:26:21 +0200, hw wrote: If you see this now, your production server hasn't been updated for a long time... About 1.5 years --- not really a long time. You're kidding, right? You're running a production server without the last 18 months' worth of

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 8:13 AM, hw wrote: > > Every three months is not infrequently. > >... > > Seriously, update every day? > As Neil has mentioned, there seems to be a mismatch in expectations. Every day updates are probably fairly typical for Gentoo users. I don't update all

Re: [gentoo-user] Sweet Sweet Portage

2016-08-16 Thread james
On 08/15/2016 09:43 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 06:02:27PM -0400, james wrote What response do you get with... emerge --backtrack=30 -pvuDt @world Note that I've included "pv" to turn it into a "dummy run" with verbose output. " # emerge --backtrack=30

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/08/2016 14:13, hw wrote: > So after all, Gentoo seemed the least-bad choice with some arguments for > it. > Now it turns out that you can´t update it without running into problems all > the time, and currently not at all. No, that is absolutely not true. You have to understand that you

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 13:13:38 +0200, hw wrote: > Since someone said I should use the same python target for everything, > I set one globally. Why wouldn´t that target be used? It will, unless overridden per-package, but existing software will still be installed with the old settings. > Even if

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:13:16 +0200, hw wrote: > > You're probably always running into problems like this because you > > infrequently update Gentoo. > > Every three months is not infrequently. It is considered so for Gentoo. > > If you ran it every day you'd probably only run into issues

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread hw
Rich Freeman schrieb: On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 10:08 AM, hw wrote: I infrequently update Gentoo because I´m *always* running into problems like this. 'Infrequently' means about every 3 months at home, and not since, IIRC, 2015-02 here at work. The last update at home got

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 7:23 AM, hw wrote: > Neil Bothwick schrieb: >> >> On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 16:08:34 +0200, hw wrote: >> >>> infrequently update Gentoo because I´m *always* running into problems >>> like this. >> >> Every time, or is that just hyperbole? > > every time Keep in

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread hw
Neil Bothwick schrieb: On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 16:08:34 +0200, hw wrote: infrequently update Gentoo because I´m *always* running into problems like this. Every time, or is that just hyperbole? every time 'Infrequently' means about every 3 months at home, and not since, IIRC, 2015-02 here

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread hw
Fernando Rodriguez schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/13/2016 09:40 AM, hw wrote: Fernando Rodriguez schrieb: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/12/2016 08:44 AM, Jeroen Mathon wrote: Is it perhaps an idea to mask the gentoolkit package when

Re: [gentoo-user] Sweet Sweet Portage

2016-08-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 16/08/2016 02:24, james wrote: > >> Please post the output of layman -l > alunduil > java > pentoo > science > sunrise > torbrower > ultrabug > xmw That's what I thought. I reckon I know what your problem is. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com