Re: [gentoo-user] Perhaps add "gentoo-" in beginning of file name for iso files

2017-02-14 Thread konsolebox
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:00 AM, scootergrisen wrote: > So would it not be better to use a file name like this?: > gentoo-livedvd-amd64-multilib-20160704.iso This is the correct approach, but people here hate making changes unless it's coming from them and gives them

Re: [gentoo-user] Pentoo... is it still being developed

2017-02-14 Thread Willie Mattthews
On 02/14/2017 09:09 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Can any say if pentoo is still under developement? > > It looks like they have a beta from January. http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/pentoo/Beta/Pentoo_amd64_default/ -- Willie Matthews matthews.willi...@gmail.com signature.asc Description:

[gentoo-user] Pentoo... is it still being developed

2017-02-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Can any say if pentoo is still under developement?

Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING: Crucial MX300 drives SUUUUUCK!!!!

2017-02-14 Thread Poison BL.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Alan Grimes wrote: > All this raises an interesting question: How much effort is it > reasonable to expect a user to undertake just to use one of these > drives? I mean it's going to be very tough to argue that it should > require more than

Re: [gentoo-user] Perhaps add "gentoo-" in beginning of file name for iso files

2017-02-14 Thread Dale
Johannes Rosenberger wrote: > On 15.02.2017 00:00, scootergrisen wrote: >> When i download Gentoo Linux the file name might be called something >> like: >> livedvd-amd64-multilib-20160704.iso >> >> This might be fine if you just want that file and want to use it >> straight away. >> >> But lets

Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING: Crucial MX300 drives SUUUUUCK!!!!

2017-02-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 14 Feb 2017 18:29:49 Alan Grimes wrote: > Right now my drive is set up as if it were a black box that contains bits. > I don't think it's reasonable for me to do anything more than that. =\ Well, no, but then you wouldn't, would you? Anybody else might take an interest in the health

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.provided?

2017-02-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:00:03 +0100, Johannes Rosenberger wrote: > I find the package.*-dirs very nice, too. Unfortunately, the tools like > emerge, flaggie etc. seem to not always use the same file to write to, > so the files get messed up over time. Portage always writes to the end of the last

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.provided?

2017-02-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:22:50 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Something else about this entry in `man portage': > > [...] > SYNOPSIS >/etc/portage/make.profile/ or /etc/make.profile/ > site-specific overrides go in /etc/portage/profile/ > deprecated >

Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING: Crucial MX300 drives SUUUUUCK!!!!

2017-02-14 Thread Alan Grimes
All this raises an interesting question: How much effort is it reasonable to expect a user to undertake just to use one of these drives? I mean it's going to be very tough to argue that it should require more than "plug in -> add partitions > boogie" I mean half of what I'm hearing about how to

Re: [gentoo-user] Perhaps add "gentoo-" in beginning of file name for iso files

2017-02-14 Thread Johannes Rosenberger
On 15.02.2017 00:00, scootergrisen wrote: > When i download Gentoo Linux the file name might be called something > like: > livedvd-amd64-multilib-20160704.iso > > This might be fine if you just want that file and want to use it > straight away. > > But lets say like i just did downloaded multiple

[gentoo-user] Perhaps add "gentoo-" in beginning of file name for iso files

2017-02-14 Thread scootergrisen
When i download Gentoo Linux the file name might be called something like: livedvd-amd64-multilib-20160704.iso This might be fine if you just want that file and want to use it straight away. But lets say like i just did downloaded multiple linux distributions because i want to test them out

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: package.provided?

2017-02-14 Thread Johannes Rosenberger
On 14.02.2017 21:22, Harry Putnam wrote: > Johannes Rosenberger writes: > >>> Can anyone offer suggestions about this... is it even the right way to >>> proceed? >>> >>> >> Hello! >> >> I have portage-2.3.3 installed and in my portage manpage it is mentioned: >> >> The file shall

Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING: Crucial MX300 drives SUUUUUCK!!!!

2017-02-14 Thread taii...@gmx.com
I had a crucial SSD drive too and it failed in the warranty but as I didn't have the receipt they refused to honor it and said I was out of warranty as based on the date they sold it to the store not the day the store sold it to me. Apparently failures on my model were a very common thing due

Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING: Crucial MX300 drives SUUUUUCK!!!!

2017-02-14 Thread Poison BL.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 02/13/2017 10:17 AM, Poison BL. wrote: > > > > I've had more than one spinning rust drive fail hard over the years as > > well, though yes, you do usually have some chance of recovery from > > those. Gambling on that

[gentoo-user] Re: not understanding failed build log

2017-02-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Setup: VBox vm running gentoo(amd64) guest on a win-10 (64bit) host Hardware: HP xw8600 - 2x Xeon CPU X5450 @ 3.00GHz - 32 GB ram Harry Putnam writes: [...] > Sorry to post the raw pile of output but last time a used a http link > to a long log someone here told me that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo on a Surface Pro 3?

2017-02-14 Thread Daniel Frey
On 02/05/2017 05:12 PM, Alex Thorne wrote: > A wiki article would be great. I'd be happy to contribute my experiences > with my Surface Pro 4 if I eventually get round to installing Gentoo on it. > I'm still plodding away at this. I found some patches to enable multitouch and some other bits but

Re: [gentoo-user] custom kernel with nvidia-drivers

2017-02-14 Thread Daniel Frey
On 02/14/2017 02:33 AM, Raffaele Belardi wrote: > Time ago when I upgraded nvidia-drivers from 295 to 3xx series there was > no way to start X, it would crash immediately with my custom built > kernel. After many tests I switched to a kernel config taken from a live > CD which worked (and still

Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING: Crucial MX300 drives SUUUUUCK!!!!

2017-02-14 Thread Daniel Frey
On 02/13/2017 10:17 AM, Poison BL. wrote: > > I've had more than one spinning rust drive fail hard over the years as > well, though yes, you do usually have some chance of recovery from > those. Gambling on that chance by leaving a given disk as a single point > of failure is still a bad idea,

Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING: Crucial MX300 drives SUUUUUCK!!!!

2017-02-14 Thread Daniel Frey
On 02/13/2017 10:25 PM, Mick wrote: > I was using discard and can't say I > noticed any performance penalty on the OCZ drive. I removed it and set up a > fstrim cron job and suddenly there is a major I/O bottleneck when the cron > job > runs. Perhaps I should be running it more often ... >

[gentoo-user] Re: package.provided?

2017-02-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Johannes Rosenberger writes: >> Can anyone offer suggestions about this... is it even the right way to >> proceed? >> >> > > Hello! > > I have portage-2.3.3 installed and in my portage manpage it is mentioned: > > The file shall reside in

Re: [gentoo-user] xf86-video-nouveau-1.0.12" is blocking x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.18-r1

2017-02-14 Thread Raffaele Belardi
the...@sys-concept.com wrote: The box that I'm upgrading is giving me: [blocks B ] ... But this is a video driver my box is using, and I'm logged into it directly so if I unmerge the drive in use the xorg-server will crash and I I'll be in a login prompt, isn't it? Is it better to do

Re: [gentoo-user] xf86-video-nouveau-1.0.12" is blocking x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.18-r1

2017-02-14 Thread wabe
the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > The box that I'm upgrading is giving me: > > [blocks B ] (" x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.18-r1) > > !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been > pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict: > >

[gentoo-user] xf86-video-nouveau-1.0.12" is blocking x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.18-r1

2017-02-14 Thread thelma
The box that I'm upgrading is giving me: [blocks B ] =x11-base/xorg-server-1.18[udev] required by (x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.10.3:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) ^^

Re: [gentoo-user] package.provided?

2017-02-14 Thread Raffaele Belardi
Harry Putnam wrote: Setup: Installing X on Vbox vm runnning gentoo (amd64 not strict). Host is win10 (64bit) Installing the xorg-server is calling for the installation of app-emulation/virtualbox-guest-additions-5.0.32 However, my version of vbox is for a windows host (5.1.14). And

Re: [gentoo-user] package.provided?

2017-02-14 Thread Johannes Rosenberger
On 14.02.2017 16:09, Harry Putnam wrote: > Setup: > >Installing X on Vbox vm runnning gentoo (amd64 not strict). Host >is win10 (64bit) > > Installing the xorg-server is calling for the installation of > app-emulation/virtualbox-guest-additions-5.0.32 > > However, my version of vbox is

[gentoo-user] package.provided?

2017-02-14 Thread Harry Putnam
Setup: Installing X on Vbox vm runnning gentoo (amd64 not strict). Host is win10 (64bit) Installing the xorg-server is calling for the installation of app-emulation/virtualbox-guest-additions-5.0.32 However, my version of vbox is for a windows host (5.1.14). And actually has the guest

Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING: Crucial MX300 drives SUUUUUCK!!!!

2017-02-14 Thread wabe
Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 14 Feb 2017 01:51:01 wabe wrote: > > Mick wrote: > > > > Have you noticed a difference between mounting partitions on them > > > with the discard option, Vs running fstrim on a cron job? > > > > I noticed a big

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - pulled IN "can not win" :-/

2017-02-14 Thread massi ppp
disable systemd via package mask; https://github.com/dantrell/gentoo-project-gnome-without-systemd/blob/master/HACKING.md#differences-between-gnome-profiles user flag settings On Feb 10, 2017 6:02 AM, "Alan McKinnon" wrote: > On 10/02/2017 06:15,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg wiki and graphics drivers

2017-02-14 Thread Urs Schütz
On 02/14/17 07:30, Raffaele Belardi wrote: Harry Putnam wrote: Willie Mattthews writes: Not sure I'm following you here. THe guest addtions come with the Vbox and I've already installed them. This is a windows 10 host and the vbox is the one installable on

Re: [gentoo-user] custom kernel with nvidia-drivers

2017-02-14 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Raffaele Belardi wrote: > Time ago when I upgraded nvidia-drivers from 295 to 3xx series there was no > way to start X, it would crash immediately with my custom built kernel. > After many tests I switched to a kernel config taken from a

[gentoo-user] custom kernel with nvidia-drivers

2017-02-14 Thread Raffaele Belardi
Time ago when I upgraded nvidia-drivers from 295 to 3xx series there was no way to start X, it would crash immediately with my custom built kernel. After many tests I switched to a kernel config taken from a live CD which worked (and still works) fine with the 3xx nvidia-drivers but pulls in a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg wiki and graphics drivers

2017-02-14 Thread Raffaele Belardi
Harry Putnam wrote: Willie Mattthews writes: Not sure I'm following you here. THe guest addtions come with the Vbox and I've already installed them. This is a windows 10 host and the vbox is the one installable on windows. This is version 5.1.14 Guest additinos

Re: [gentoo-user] Building a new root for my Gentoo: Permission denied?

2017-02-14 Thread Johannes Rosenberger
On 14.02.2017 03:12, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Johannes Rosenberger [17-02-14 02:43]: >> On 13.02.2017 19:20, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: >>> Johannes Rosenberger [17-02-13 19:04]: On 13.02.2017 17:57, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hogren