Re: [gentoo-user] make oldconfig necessary?

2011-08-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sunday, July 31 at 21:23 (-0500), Jeremy McSpadden said: Better to run make oldconfig. It merges the changes. -- Jeremy McSpadden def...@uberpenguin.net On Jul 31, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: Let's say I have a .config from an older kernel version (for example,

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-08-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Monday, August 1 at 12:41 (+0200), Joost Roeleveld said: On Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:02:22 AM Florian Philipp wrote: @system used to contain portage. It doesn't by default, anymore. If you do `emerge -pv --depclean`, portage should try to remove itself. Just add it to @world by

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-07-31 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sunday, July 31 at 05:44 (+0100), Stroller said: Hi there, I kinda feel I'm opening myself up for ridicule in asking this, but I'm on x86 stable (i.e. not ~x86) and this behaviour seems to have changed recently. During a recent `emerge --sync` I received the an update to portage

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-07-31 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sunday, July 31 at 12:08 (+0100), Peter Humphrey said: On Sunday 31 July 2011 09:54:07 Albert Hopkins wrote: Or perhaps I'm just not understanding the problem. He's asking why upgrading world or system doesn't include upgrading portage. Or perhaps I'm just not understanding

Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?

2011-07-31 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sunday, July 31 at 13:31 (+0100), Stroller said: Yeah, I specifically wanted to stave off suggestions of you should unmask the ~86 versions of portage, anyway, as I think I saw that view aired fairly robustly in another thread recently and it's really not for me. I was also quite

Re: [gentoo-user] IRC active time?

2011-07-26 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wednesday, July 27 at 08:07 (+0700), Pandu Poluan said: Anyone here knows at what time the Gentoo IRC channels are usually active? #gentoo is a 24-hour channel. In UTC, if possible :) (Still can't wrap my head around USA time zone codes) It really doesn't matter.

Re: [gentoo-user] root fs moved, but no init

2011-07-25 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sunday, July 24 at 09:49 (+1000), Adam Carter said: Summary; Copied / from sda3 to sdb3 Updated the fstab in the new disk (/dev/sdb3 / btrfs noatime,compress=lzo0 0) Updated the kernel line's root=/dev/sda3 to /dev/sdb3 in grub.conf, but left the root (hd0,0) as it

Re: [gentoo-user] root fs moved, but no init

2011-07-25 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Monday, July 25 at 21:04 (+1000), Adam Carter said: No message about init, just no more console messages. I'll try the kernel line. Thanks. Ok. i ran init from the shell, and it reported /dev/initctl no such device or directory. I hadnt copied the contents of /dev across - i

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-24 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sunday, July 24 at 15:11 (+0100), Stroller said: Well, if you knew what was causing it, then you wouldn't need to report a bug as you could just fix it yourself :P Quite the opposite! Yeah, I was half joking. The point was that not filing a bug because you don't know what the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-23 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Saturday, July 23 at 01:10 (-0500), Dale said: I was hoping since it was a whole different numbering scheme that it was a major change. That was the reason for my question. I didn't know if this was major or a normal update or something else. I was hoping for something like

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-23 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Saturday, July 23 at 05:33 (-0500), Dale said: But sometimes major changes can fix things and do things completely different which can lead to other issues being fixed. Seamonkey did the same when they did their major redo. Bad thing is, the kernel panics are at it again. I had a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-23 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Saturday, July 23 at 09:35 (-0500), Dale said: Albert Hopkins wrote: [...] Anyway, here's something... did you actually report a bug? If a tree falls in the forest... I haven't filed a bug because at the moment we have not been able to figure out exactly what is causing

Re: [gentoo-user] mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-22 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 22 at 11:46 (-0700), Grant said: That's what I'm curious about. If some swap is good, why isn't more better? Paul has demonstrated that a Linux system will put at least 10GB to use and probably much more given the opportunity. Disk space is so cheap, why isn't everyone

Re: [gentoo-user] mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-22 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 22 at 19:55 (+0100), Peter Humphrey said: Wouldn't a sufficiently large swap (100GB for example) completely prevent out of memory conditions and the oom-killer? Of course, on any system with more than a few dozen MB of RAM, but I can't imagine any combination of

Re: [gentoo-user] mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-22 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 22 at 11:13 (-0700), Grant said: That all makes perfect sense. So the reason a swap larger than maybe 1GB is not usually implemented is because idle processes don't normally have more than a few hundred MB of pages in memory? That's not entirely true, either. For example,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.0 and oldconfig

2011-07-22 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 22 at 18:42 (-0500), Dale said: I sort of hate to hear there are no major changes. I was hoping for a fix on my kernel panic problem. Oh well. I'll upgrade anyway. Maybe it will help. Fixing a kernel bug is not considered a major change. A major change would be

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade query

2011-07-21 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 21 at 10:01 (+), j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk said: A little advice please? I am about to build a new box going from athlon dual core to phenom six core. Including new sata drives and motherboard. I was going to clone all my partitions and the re emerged all packages with

Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade query

2011-07-21 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 21 at 11:10 (+), j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk said: Well, depends on your definition of works. AFAIK linux does not expose the NFTS permission system fully, because they are very different and there is no 1:1 mapping between them. So while the *data* may be copied over, the

Re: [gentoo-user] mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-21 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 21 at 10:27 (-0700), Grant said: It sounds like adding physical RAM is better than enabling swap in every way. I'll stay in the anti-swap camp. I don't see why it has to be one way *or* the other... Yes more RAM is always going to be better than more swap, RAM is just way

Re: [gentoo-user] mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-21 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 21 at 16:53 (-0700), Grant said: So swap isn't treated exactly like RAM. It actually has special handling in Linux which makes it beneficial to have on almost any Linux system? According to Alan, things get very bad when a Linux system hits swap. How can behavior like

Re: [gentoo-user] mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-21 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 22 at 10:56 (+1000), Adam Carter said: Its more how much i/o rather than the size. If you have a bunch of stuff swapped out, but it hardly ever needs to be swapped in, the impact will be low. Keep an eye on the use with vmstat; adam@rix ~ $ vmstat 5 procs

Re: [gentoo-user] mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-21 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 21 at 18:29 (-0700), Grant said: Then why not have a really big swap file? If swap is useful as a second layer of caching behind RAM, why doesn't everyone with some extra hard drive space have a 100GB swap file? You've not understood what I said, I think. Swap is not

Re: [gentoo-user] mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-21 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 21 at 18:43 (-0700), Grant said: If I understand correctly, an out-of-memory condition that would lock up a system without swap, will cause it to thrash with swap. A remote system of mine was locked up for many hours due to running out of memory without swap. If I had

Re: [gentoo-user] mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-21 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 21 at 20:07 (-0700), Grant said: Then why not have a really big swap file? If swap is useful as a second layer of caching behind RAM, why doesn't everyone with some extra hard drive space have a 100GB swap file? You've not understood what I said, I think. Swap is

Re: [gentoo-user] Using KVM, what about clocks?

2011-07-20 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wednesday, July 20 at 23:43 (+0200), Stefan G. Weichinger said: [...] Are there any recommended kernel-config-settings for a performant and non-drifting KVM-server? Well, KVM_CLOCK obviously: KVM_CLOCK bool KVM paravirtualized clock select PARAVIRT select

Re: [gentoo-user] best cflags and cpu for gentoo qemu virtual machine

2011-07-17 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Saturday, July 16 at 16:54 (+0300), Kfir Lavi said: The mother machine will be Core I7 4 cores. What cpu and CFLAGS should I use to get the best performance out of this vm? A router is not going to be CPU-bound. Should matter little either way.

Re: [gentoo-user] Any way around Argument list too long?

2011-07-17 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sunday, July 17 at 17:47 (-0700), Grant said: ran this and the output was voluminous but looked good: /usr/bin/find /home/user -type f -name *-`/bin/date -d 'yesterday' +\%Y\%m\%d`*.jpg So I ran it again, adding -delete right before -type. After a lot of

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]: Converting flv to what?

2011-07-16 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Saturday, July 16 at 07:12 (+0200), meino.cra...@gmx.de said: Hi, As a Blender-fan over the time my harddisk has been filled (by me ;) ) with lots of video-tutorials in the flv (flash video)-format. Now I need some space to store more *.blend files ... So I think I need to convert

[gentoo-user] Drupal appliance available

2011-07-15 Thread Albert Hopkins
Last night I decided I wanted to create a new Gentoo virtual appliance. So I build a Drupal[1] appliance. Though I really don't know anything about Drupal, but I managed to get one made. I uploaded a pruned appliance. Which means I removed the gentoo toolchain, so it's not upgradable or

Re: [gentoo-user] qemu-kvm

2011-07-15 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Saturday, July 16 at 01:24 (+0100), john said: I am running a gentoo amd64 qemu-kvm virtual image on my gentoo amd64 box. Everything is running well. Machine boots up and all looks to be ok. When I startx the screen goes purple (on guest) and locks up. The only error message I get

Re: [gentoo-user] rc_sys -- what for?

2011-07-14 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 14 at 18:59 (+0700), Pandu Poluan said: One question's been haunting my mind since migration to baselayout-2: What's the purpose of setting rc_sys? (In my case, to xenU)l Rgds, Just briefly looking at the sources... * It affects when some filesystems are

Re: [gentoo-user] How does emerge know which files to delete during unmerge?

2011-07-14 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 14 at 19:56 (+0700), Pandu Poluan said: Another question: How does emerge know which files to delete during unmerge? I'm asking this one because I'm in the midst of writing an ebuild, and I want to know how to tell emerge what new files has been added (if necessary)

Re: [gentoo-user] ?? CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND ??

2011-07-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Monday, July 11 at 10:16 (+), Alan Mackenzie said: Hi, Gentoo. Just done an emerge -puND world. One of the packages updated was sys-fs/udisks-1.0.3-r1. Its warning message was: CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be. * Please check to make sure

Re: [gentoo-user] qemu command line manager (rc scripts)

2011-07-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Monday, July 11 at 18:28 (+0300), Kfir Lavi said: Hi, I'm looking for xen like manager to manage my virtual machines when computer boots. Is there any such project? libvirt (can also manage Xen): http://libvirt.org/

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-09 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Saturday, July 9 at 08:39 (+0100), Neil Bothwick said: Fair enough, except this thread is about encfs not working :( Unfortunately. But that's not to say encfs doesn't work. When I have a problem with a bash script, I don't just up and switch to zsh :P (although I hear people do such

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-09 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Saturday, July 9 at 12:22 (+0100), Neil Bothwick said: I wasn't suggesting that. But when the main reason for sticking with the older option is that you have a working system with data in it, the loss of both of those is a good time to investigate the newer alternative. I see. I guess

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-08 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 8 at 13:11 (+0100), Stroller said: Taking a look at this bug today, is there any reason why the ebuild shouldn't simply RDEPEND=x11-libs/gtk+ (i.e. remove the explicit dep on gtk3), detect what version you have installed on your system and then either run --enable-gtk3 or

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-08 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 8 at 11:55 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: [..] Somehow I managed to really hurt the installation ... here is what I remember having done: Some how I got mixed up when running as root, and attempted to mount a users encfs directory. (Its a single user machine so it my users

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?

2011-07-08 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 8 at 17:19 (+0200), Alan McKinnon said: On Friday 08 July 2011 09:14:36 Albert Hopkins did opine thusly: On Friday, July 8 at 13:11 (+0100), Stroller said: Taking a look at this bug today, is there any reason why the ebuild shouldn't simply RDEPEND=x11-libs/gtk+ (i.e

Re: [gentoo-user] Virt-manager

2011-07-08 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 8 at 21:22 (+0100), john said: [...] LOL Well I was up and running but now when trying to create VMs I get (have done upgrade of around 20 packages) Uncaught error validating install parameters: Must pass a VirtualDevice instance. Traceback (most recent call last):

Re: [gentoo-user] Virt-manager

2011-07-08 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 8 at 22:37 (+0100), john said: ok I might be being dumb but found a way round this (through trial and error) In advanced options in step 5 of 5 select Specify Shared Device Name Please note you'll need to create a bridge as well but selecting the above removes error

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-08 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 8 at 22:50 (+0100), Neil Bothwick said: Apart from the need to access legacy data, which Harry has resolved by reformatting, is there any benefit in using encfs rather than the in-kernel ecryptfs these days? Admittedly there isn't much difference, so if what you are using

Re: [gentoo-user] Virt-manager

2011-07-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 7 at 19:15 (+0100), john said: I am trying to start virt-manager but when I start the daemon /etc/init.d/libvirtd i get * Starting libvirtd ... /usr/sbin/libvirtd: error: Unable to initialize network sockets. Check /var/log/messages or run without --daemon for more

Re: [gentoo-user] Virt-manager

2011-07-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 7 at 20:46 (+0100), john said: Well, I see several errors, you may want to start with the first one and work your way down. iptables is running, bridging and tun have been loaded as modules iproute2 has now been installed but makes no odds. Not sure about brctl as I can't

Re: [gentoo-user] Virt-manager

2011-07-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 7 at 23:30 (+0100), john said: On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:26:18 -0400 Have cleared up error messages using config as suggested. I still get the issue when starting /etc/init.d/libvirtd * Starting libvirtd ... /usr/sbin/libvirtd: error: Unable to initialize network

Re: [gentoo-user] DNS error with ssh

2011-07-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 7 at 17:43 (-0700), Grant said: Yeah I don't get it. Check this out: $ ping google.com PING google.com (74.125.224.84) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 74.125.224.84: icmp_req=1 ttl=55 time=97.1 ms 64 bytes from 74.125.224.84: icmp_req=2 ttl=55 time=97.1 ms 64

Re: [gentoo-user] Lexmark X5650 working in Gentoo Linux?

2011-07-07 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, July 7 at 21:18 (-0600), Carlos Sura said: I was thinking if there was any chance if anyone of you have this printer installed to tell me how to get it work for me... Or a howto, tutorial, manual? According to openprinting.org, it's a paperweight.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-05 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tuesday, July 5 at 11:27 (-0400), cov...@ccs.covici.com said: I tried to use kms, but it conflicted with the nvidia driver and did not give me as much screen size in the console as uvesafb. Yeah, you can't use the nvidia driver and KMS at the same time. You'd have to use the nouveau

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-04 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Monday, July 4 at 13:10 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: Are you saying it does not require `xorg-x11'. Step 2) says in large type: `2. Installing Xorg' Then a big note in a green box later on says: , | Note: You could install the xorg-x11 metapackage instead of the more |

Re: [gentoo-user] about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-03 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sunday, July 3 at 16:39 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: I've been booting with a framebuffer for some time. So long that I fear my kernel line may be out of date. A lot of people nowadays are using KMS. It's the one true way™ for doing console/X mode settings. But if you have a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer

2011-07-03 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sunday, July 3 at 22:07 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: this is a no X machine... it appears at the cited URL they expect you to be running xorg. KMS doesn't require X, but Xorg can use it. Basically Xorg can let the kernel handle graphics mode setting and gets out of the way. But KMS

Re: [gentoo-user] Why does update want to replace ssmtp with courier?

2011-07-02 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Saturday, July 2 at 23:15 (-0400), Walter Dnes said: Fortunately, I do emerge -pv... otherwise I wouldn't be able to send this email, asking what the bleep is going on. I'm trying to do a regular update on my desktop and laptop. Apparently the update wants to replace ssmtp with courier

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-07-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 1 at 10:36 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org writes: On Tuesday, June 28 at 10:57 (-0400), Albert Hopkins said: Anyway, I will rebuild an image with AHCI support and upload it shortly. Done, uploaded to the same place: http

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-07-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 1 at 11:55 (-0400), Albert Hopkins said: Oh, I'm referring to the 4GB version. The 10GB version demands a password so couldn't even start on it. That should not be the case with it requiring a password, or else I uploaded the wrong image. Nevertheless, I'll upload

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-07-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 1 at 11:42 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org writes: [...] Yeah, sorry if I didn't mention before. In the interest of size, I remove the portage tree (and also kernel sources) before creating the image. So in order to do portage

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-07-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 1 at 11:42 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: In the shell where the initial login came up I keep seeing this every 5 minutes: INIT: ld so respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes Oh, you can also do this manually by commenting out the s0 entry in /etc/inittab. -a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-07-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 1 at 14:10 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: Sorry for being a lazy slug... I've used the same /etc/make.conf for several yrs with no problems... so didn't really think to look there. That's why I asked... didn't know where to look... dumb perhaps but just didn't cross my mind.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-07-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 1 at 17:44 (-0500), James Wall said: Thanks for the appliance image. it has come in handy for trying out multiple ideas and setups at once on my machine. Keep up the great work Albert! :) You're welcome. I do have other appliances other than the base appliance. For

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-07-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 1 at 19:22 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org writes: [...] At the risk of exposing further ignorance on my part, I'm curious what it means in fstab where you have: /.swap none swap sw0 0 At the swap line

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-28 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Monday, June 27 at 22:44 (-0500), James Wall said: 2. I then went into the properties of the VM and changed the controller type to SCSI and readded the disk image. If you let me know what controller virtualbox natively uses I can add that to the kernel config.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-28 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tuesday, June 28 at 09:32 (-0500), James Wall said: Albert, it uses the AHCI driver for the sata controller. You know it's odd, I was just talking with someone yesterday about why don't the hypervisors default to AHCI since it's somewhat universal by now. Anyway, I will rebuild an image

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-28 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tuesday, June 28 at 10:57 (-0400), Albert Hopkins said: Anyway, I will rebuild an image with AHCI support and upload it shortly. Done, uploaded to the same place: http://starship.python.net/crew/marduk/base-dist.vmdk.bz2 I also made the image bigger (10GB). Oddly enough, it compresses

Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox

2011-06-27 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Monday, June 27 at 19:52 (-0400), Daniel D Jones said: Can anyone explain why it takes so long for Firefox-bin to be unmasked? [etc.] Have you gone to bugs.gentoo.org and submitted a stabilization request?

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-27 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Monday, June 27 at 18:47 (-0500), James Wall said: Albert, Thanks for sharing the guest image. I have gotten it installed on my virtualbox to allow me to experiment with it. Thanks again for sharing your work. Cool, now I at least know it works with vmware and virtualbox. I will

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] using ffmpeg for screen cast

2011-06-26 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sunday, June 26 at 18:28 (+0100), Mick said: Hi All, I was trying to record my desktop using: ffmpeg -f x11grab -s xga -r 25 -i :0.0 -aspect 4:3 /tmp/out.mpg but the result is rather blurred as you can see in the attached screenshot, when I play it with mplayer. Is there some

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-25 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, June 23 at 12:52 (-0400), Albert Hopkins said: I've uploaded a (390MB) vmdk. I've been told by someone that it works with vmware (not sure what version). This was build just a few minutes ago with the latest stage3 tarball and the latest portage snapshot. http

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-23 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, June 23 at 09:54 (+0200), Joost Roeleveld said: Any such program to build XenServer appliances (.xva) ? Shouldn't it work similarly? Eg. start an appliance and install using the stage4? I use Xen directly and as long as I can create and fill the partitions for the VM,

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-23 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, June 23 at 00:35 (-0400), Matthew Finkel said: Oh, don't get me wrong, that's one reason I use qcow2 myself, but it's either something he would have to deal with when he received it or the conversion would increase the size of the disk image that would be shipped to him. Yes,

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-23 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, June 23 at 13:45 (+0200), Joost Roeleveld said: Yes the stage4 should work similarly. However Pandu was asking about building .xva which I know nothing about, unless an .xva is similar to/same as a stage4 (I have no idea)? .xva is a format specifically for Citrix Xen.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-23 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, June 23 at 12:32 (-0400), Matthew Finkel said: On 06/23/11 07:15, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Thursday, June 23 at 00:35 (-0400), Matthew Finkel said: Oh, don't get me wrong, that's one reason I use qcow2 myself, but it's either something he would have to deal with when he

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-22 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wednesday, June 22 at 16:52 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: The times I've tried to get a recent gentoo version running in a vm on windows turned out to be labor taking days to get right. Does anyone know if there is a fairly current gentoo appliance somewhere that I can just install and

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-22 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wednesday, June 22 at 21:31 (-0400), Matthew Finkel said: The stage4 (excluding portage) would be ~90MB (bz2). The disk image (compressed QCOW is about 120MB) The only issue with qcow2 is that in order to use it with VB, IIRC you need to convert it to raw before you can import it.

RE: [gentoo-user] [OT virtual stuff] gentoo vm appliance

2011-06-22 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thursday, June 23 at 08:16 (+0700), Pandu Poluan said: Any such program to build XenServer appliances (.xva) ? I haven't any. I have no experience with XenServer appliances.

Re: [gentoo-user] Reinstalling older Packages

2011-06-20 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Monday, June 20 at 10:03 (+0100), Neil Bothwick said: There is no such option, but you can get expired ebuilds from http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/cat-egory/package Sigh. 2011 and *still* using CVS?!

Re: [gentoo-user] crontab not executing

2011-06-20 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Monday, June 20 at 20:39 (+1000), Adam Carter said: I dont understand. runs as usually means runs under the user context to me - are you saying bash has an sh compatibility mode? Yes, when run as sh in POSIX mode (i.e. if it were called as bash --posix).

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it possible to have perl-5 and perl-6 installed and in use concurrently?

2011-06-18 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sunday, June 19 at 09:47 (+0800), William Kenworthy said: Its actually not slotting I am after - slots are a choice of setting the system to one or the other (correct me if I am wrong) whereas I want to use perl-5 for eveyting except this which wants perl-6. You are wrong. slots is the

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: future moderation

2011-06-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
Ok... I'll bite. On Sunday, June 12 at 00:19 (+0100), Matt Harrison said: Hi list, An odd post here but I'm sitting up after midnight with a few beers and I wanted to get an advanced word on this. (sigh) Please don't drink and post. I don't know if anyone is subscribed to the ruby-talk

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-08 Thread Albert Hopkins
I exaggerated. The number of kde packages pulled in on my compute server right now is about 10, so it's not as bad as I remember. I have a bunch of systems (desktop and client) and none of them pull in any KDE libs save one, which has kde-meta in the world file. Not even my mythtv box, which

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-08 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 07:09 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I exaggerated. The number of kde packages pulled in on my compute server right now is about 10, so it's not as bad as I remember. I have a bunch of systems (desktop and client) and none of them pull in should have been (desktop and

Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.2.0_alpha38 --depclean

2011-06-08 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 07:37 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Then you missed the point of the thread. Quite possibly.

Re: [gentoo-user] Why are *.so library files executable?

2011-06-05 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 17:43 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Gentoo users tend to be technically adept, so I'll ask the question here: Why are *.so files set as executables? I noticed that they keep working if I do a chmod a-x on them. Well, they are executables in that they are object code

Re: [gentoo-user] external monitor output during boot

2011-05-18 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 22:48 -0400, Valmor de Almeida wrote: Hello, What controls the screen output to an external monitor connected to a laptop during boot or when just using a plain console without an X server running? Before a recent update the output would just automatically go to an

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC in DomU

2011-05-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 12:27 +, Konstantinos Agouros wrote: Hi, after I went to openrc all works fine just one thing disturbing now: If I create a xen-guest with xm create guest -c or change to the console when the system boots, some of the characters particularly [] are garbled. I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: checking whether the C compiler works... no Oooops !!

2011-05-06 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 12:18 +0200, Andrea Conti wrote: AFAIK in order to avoid this kind of breakage system ebuilds such as mpfr never delete old library versions; they just print a warning saying that the old library has been kept around and should be manually deleted after running

Re: [gentoo-user] Public Apology to Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew and Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, Singapore

2011-04-30 Thread Albert Hopkins
Perhaps a bit too public. Anyway, hope all is forgiven :D -a

Re: [gentoo-user] removing gtk+ as requested by --depclean

2011-04-28 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 16:19 +0200, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: gtk+ 3.x is not used by gnome versions in portage (2.x). If you don't know if you need it, then you don't need it. Gnome3 is slowly making its way into portage, and so so is bringing with it packages that depend either

Re: [gentoo-user] su doesn't work for me.

2011-04-10 Thread Albert Hopkins
Funny, though, on my (very) old Debian system I don't seem to have a wheel. http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/su-invocation.html Bottom section.

Re: [gentoo-user] qemu-kvm black screen and infinite loop on startup

2011-04-06 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 12:00 +0300, Kfir Lavi wrote: Hi Albert, Can you paste your USE flags for qemu? Thanks, Kfir USE=aio sdl vde -alsa -bluetooth -brltty -curl -esd -fdt -hardened -jpeg -ncurses -png -pulseaudio -qemu-ifup -sasl -ssl -static

Re: [gentoo-user] qemu-kvm black screen and infinite loop on startup

2011-04-05 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 18:06 +0300, Kfir Lavi wrote: Hi, After updating qemu-kvm to 0.13.0-r2 I get an infinite loop when running qemu. You can spot the loop with strace. This problem shows on Redhat https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=553689#c5 and they say that it is related to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?

2011-04-02 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 13:24 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: Unfortunately, I can't go module-less; xtables-addons requires modules support. How do you get static /dev ? Go into /etc/conf.d/rc and change RC_DEVICES to static. Also if you are using virtio block devices (as I am) then you will need

Re: [gentoo-user] How low can you go?

2011-04-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 19:36 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: Just for fun, not for boasting ;-) Out of curiosity, I pared down nearly everything from my Gentoo VMware Guest. `free -m` directly after booting + login: Mem: total 499 used 28 free 470 shared 0 buffers 1 cached 12

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?

2011-04-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 02:22 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: Good grief! How'd you do that?! *bow in respect* Rgds, Well, firstly, I managed to get it down to 3MB (though I cheated *a little*): lilpenguin ~ # sync ; echo 3 /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches # kinda cheating lilpenguin ~ # free -m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?

2011-04-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
.. got it slightly lower by switching to dash and disabling ACPI and APIC: root@lilpenguin $ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:18 4 13 0 0 1 -/+ buffers/cache: 2 15 Swap:0

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?

2011-04-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2011-04-01 at 14:44 -0700, Bill Longman wrote: ... So, what can you actually *do* on this, other than an ls or two? Well, first the challenge did not require that it had to have any use. But thinking about what you said, I remember when I first started using Linux, it was not

Re: [gentoo-user] kvm and libvirt

2011-03-29 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 13:02 +0200, Coert Waagmeester wrote: Hello all, At the moment I have a running install of kvm. I do all the virtual networking manually with help of tap adaptors and bridges. And I use LVM for the VMs disks. It is working very well, but to add a VM or to migrate it

Re: [gentoo-user] Any small and fast desktop search app for GNOME?

2011-03-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 14:14 +0800, Thomas Yao wrote: I dislike gnome-do and I use synapse on ubuntu with another PC So I'm wondering is there any other good desktop search applications? Or how can I install synapse on gentoo? Thank you! Synapse and it's dependencies are very unfriendly to

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

2010-12-08 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 07:57 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, does anybody know about an easy method to remove all entries from /var/lib/portage/world which would have been pulled in anyway even if they

Re: [gentoo-user] Remove redundant entries in world - howto

2010-12-08 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 16:28 +, Stroller wrote: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/302273/ I think this only works on ~ARCH, right? On x86 I get: Traceback (most recent call last): File ./auditworld, line 20, in module import gentoolkit.sets ImportError: No module named sets

Re: [gentoo-user] About interpreting output of df -h

2010-12-02 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 15:53 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: Can anyone tell me how determine what these kind of useless names really mean? From df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on rootfs1.9G 283M 1.6G 15% / /dev/root 1.9G 283M 1.6G 15%

Re: [gentoo-user] Console-kit instances...

2010-11-25 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 01:20 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, is it really necessary, that console-kit runs 65 instances of itsself??? They're not instances (whatever that means anyway). They're threads... the short of it is... it's already been discussed . It's not hurting anything

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