Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-28 Thread Kent Fredric
On Mon, 27 Apr 2020 18:57:47 +0300 lego12...@yandex.ru wrote: > You have lost faith in people ;-). Only Torvalds can write Segfault free code. Everyone else tries hard, and eventually get beaten into submission by GCC and UB. ( Yes, I'm being a little hyperbolic, but the test of time has shown

Re: [gentoo-user] "Amount" of fstrim? (curiosity driven, no paranoia :)

2020-04-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On Sun, 26 Apr 2020 18:15:51 +0200 tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/root 246G 45G 189G 20% / Given that (Size - Used) is roughly 200G, it suggests to me that perhaps, some process somewhere is creating and deleting a lot of temporary

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 19:14:55 +0300 lego12...@yandex.ru wrote: > portage must be in C and statically linked. Do you want Segfaults? Because that's how you get segfaults :p. Maybe Rust or something like it, but I don't really trust our capacity to implement something this complicated in C.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-04-22 Thread Kent Fredric
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 19:58:03 +0300 Consus wrote: > Github bot warns > you that contributing new packages to the main repo is low priority and > probably no one will help you, Maybe that's a misinterpretation. Gentoo workflow isn't oriented around Pull requests, Pull requests are generally a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Perl 5.30.1 Locale::Language missing

2020-02-06 Thread Kent Fredric
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 07:48:04 - (UTC) Martin Vaeth wrote: > This looks like a bug in the perl distribution to me: > > man perl5300delta > > claims "Locale::Codes has been upgraded from version 3.56 to 3.57." and > > man perl5301delta > > neither mentions "Locale" nor "Codes", yet the whole

Re: [gentoo-user] layman : unterminated character set at position 1

2019-07-03 Thread Kent Fredric
On Tue, 07 May 2019 13:05:59 +0200 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > I'm struggling with layman. Using version 2.4.2-r1 as well as version > I get > for several overlays like for palemoon : > > layman -a palemoon > > * Adding overlay... > * Overlay "palemoon" is not official. Continue

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing for profile switch -- major problem

2017-12-10 Thread Kent Fredric
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 07:54:59 -0500 John Covici wrote: > I am using ~amd64 and have done so for > years, so I don't think I need to maks off anything. Sorry, I may have gotten my wires crossed. The impression I got was you were trying to stick with perl 5.24 The point

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing for profile switch -- major problem

2017-12-10 Thread Kent Fredric
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 02:17:09 -0500 John Covici wrote: > OK, thanks, I think I will try that. The problem you're facing is that you masked dev-lang/perl, but not any virtual/perl-* or perl-core/-* to compensate. These 3 components work in concert like a single component,

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Being Facebook member: How to anon?

2017-10-23 Thread Kent Fredric
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 10:50:01 +0200 tu...@posteo.de wrote: > My question is: > Are there ways (and which ones) to become member of facebook > just to read and write to this user grout (like a mailinglist) > and keep the impact on privacy an personal fingerprinting as > small as ever possible? It

Re: [gentoo-user] The uselessness of equery

2017-10-16 Thread Kent Fredric
On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 18:29:19 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Has anyone a better way? As Alan recently wrote in a different but > related context, surely a hack in bash / awk /perl would do better, and > that's what I'll do if I must, but I can't believe gentoo lacks a

Re: [gentoo-user] What's up with larry the cow dot org?

2017-10-14 Thread Kent Fredric
On Fri, 13 Oct 2017 20:26:04 + (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote: > Appropos of nothing, I accidentaly stumbled across larrythecow.org > today. It's oddly baffling. The domain is registered to "Domain > Protection Services", and (AFAICT) has been since 2005. Wayback

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/texinfo-6.5: Aborted /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/perl ../tp/texi2any

2017-10-07 Thread Kent Fredric
On Fri, 6 Oct 2017 03:43:50 -0400 Andrey Moshbear wrote: > Hi; > > texi2any fails with SIGABRT when compiling texinfo: > > emerge -1v =sys-apps/texinfo-6.5: http://dpaste.com/0XJMVRV > emerge --info: http://dpaste.com/1DDRESJ > > What's the failure cause and appropriate

Re: [gentoo-user] Perl 5.26 Unmasking Warning [affects all users]

2017-10-04 Thread Kent Fredric
As advised in the previous email[1], Perl 5.26.1 is scheduled to be unmasked and available to ~arch come October 7th. All the major blockers of known serious defects are fixed[2], but there's still quite a number of lower-severity issues that are still yet to be addressed[3] Stabilization of

[gentoo-user] Perl 5.26 Unmasking Warning [affects all users]

2017-08-08 Thread Kent Fredric
We're finally at a point where we're nearing the unmasking[1] of Perl 5.26 and making it visible to ~arch users, and a "news item" on this matter will appear shortly. Due to a collection of various problems faced in this version, extensive amounts of work has been needed to simply deliver an

Re: [gentoo-user] Don't miss the 1 500 000 000 Unix second!

2017-07-13 Thread Kent Fredric
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:01:42 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > Hi all! > > I'd like to remind you that > $ date -d @15 > is drawing close! > > Don't miss the moment :) > > Best regards, > Andrew Savchenko watch -n 1 'echo $(( 15 - $( date +"%s") ))'

Re: [gentoo-user] conflict with same package, same USE

2017-06-02 Thread Kent Fredric
On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 10:55:51 +0200 Hogren wrote: > dev-libs/openssl:0 > > (dev-libs/openssl-1.0.2k:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) > pulled in by > dev-libs/openssl:0[bindist=] required by > (dev-qt/qtnetwork-5.6.2:5/5.6::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) >

Re: [gentoo-user] What gives with all these file collisions?

2017-06-02 Thread Kent Fredric
On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 02:23:44 -0400 Alan Grimes wrote: > without spending all day and all night cut-pasting filenames into > another terminal and running rm on them... Looking at the candidate you showed: k3b: version=2.0.3-r5 slot=4 stable version=17.04.1 slot=5

Re: [gentoo-user] What gives with all these file collisions?

2017-06-02 Thread Kent Fredric
On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 08:23:22 +0200 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Or you could use Ubuntu. Can you please refrain from such phrases. pgp4LI4dYrEo7.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] What gives with all these file collisions?

2017-06-02 Thread Kent Fredric
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017 23:32:55 -0700 Willie M wrote: > I am sure you can use the FEATURES to ignore collisions. It has been > awhile but I am sure it is still there. Disabling collisions detections is not really good advice, as it can lead to real problems and break

Re: [gentoo-user] tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-30 Thread Kent Fredric
On Sun, 28 May 2017 11:07:03 +0100 Mick wrote: > Did you also have zbud enabled at the time? Historical kernel configs say yes: xzcat /root/kernels/04.04.26-gentoo/2016-11-30-23-33-29_success.xz | grep -E "Z(SWAP|BUD)" CONFIG_ZSWAP=y CONFIG_ZBUD=y Though I should

Re: [gentoo-user] tmp on tmpfs

2017-05-25 Thread Kent Fredric
On Wed, 24 May 2017 15:45:45 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > - smaller CPU overhead: not every i/o is being compressed, e.g. if > there is sill enough RAM available it is used without compression > overhead as usual, but if memory is not enough, swapped out pages > are being

Re: [gentoo-user] ...doubled updates?

2017-05-25 Thread Kent Fredric
On Thu, 25 May 2017 04:36:47 +0200 tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Thanks for any info in advance! If it helps ... "emerge" is the process of performing steps: - fetch - prepare - configure - compile - test - write staging image These steps can all happen independently without affecting other

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

2017-05-22 Thread Kent Fredric
On Tue, 16 May 2017 04:58:44 +0200 Kai Krakow wrote: > If this is the underlying (and perfectly legitimate) problem, you need > to deploy a solution that's most easy for your users and not for you. > That may involve a custom transfer solution where they simply can drop >

Re: [gentoo-user] Wow, the GTK3 file browser is awful!

2017-05-22 Thread Kent Fredric
On Mon, 22 May 2017 18:33:47 + (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote: > Having just recently allowed Firefox to upgrade from 45 to 52, I'm now > hobbled with the GTK3 file browser dialog. > > It's horrible. Indeed :/. You're not alone, but what can we do about it? Its not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: replacement for ftp?

2017-05-14 Thread Kent Fredric
On Sun, 14 May 2017 02:59:41 +0100 lee wrote: > That requires shell access. Not necessarily, it just requires a competent ISP. For instance, there's no shell access on github, but there's still ssh-based sync. So you just need to have a restricted environment that only

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

2017-05-10 Thread Kent Fredric
On Wed, 10 May 2017 13:50:40 +0100 David W Noon wrote: > those of us *who* are paid by the word. *whomst pgpDeD8naDnBF.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...

2008-09-17 Thread Kent Fredric
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. That list is not intended for users, but for developers. Hrm. I thought this was gentoo-user , which I thought was one of many places (gentoo-user)'s can ask for help on various subjects. 'gentoo-user | General

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...

2008-09-17 Thread Kent Fredric
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh wait, my confusion. You were possibly referring explicitly to whom should and should not be on the linux dev ml. ( If otherwise, please do unset my fail bit i just assigned on myself ) -- Kent ruby -e '[1, 2, 4, 7, 0, 9

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A plea for calm

2008-09-17 Thread Kent Fredric
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:05 AM, David Leverton [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Tuesday 16 September 2008 22:14:47 b.n. wrote: Frankly, the more you challenge him this mindless way, the more I believe him. If you think in such backwards logic then I don't care who you believe. A apologize in

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.10 in portage...

2008-09-17 Thread Kent Fredric
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 7:35 AM, David Leverton [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: 2008/9/17 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is after many requests from others for you to calm down on the list *mumble mumble mumble* two private mails from myself asking the same, both of which you have not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A plea for calm

2008-09-15 Thread Kent Fredric
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 6:27 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, why catfighting now? Because all the guys here are probably really lesbians trapped in mens bodies. :) -- Kent ruby -e '[1, 2, 4, 7, 0, 9, 5, 8, 3, 10, 11, 6, 12, 13].each{|x| print enNOSPicAMreil [EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-user] How to minimise resource usage during emerge

2008-09-14 Thread Kent Fredric
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 3:01 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yeah, funny that. Maybe you can write the new RFC to synchronize all reply mail to all other replies anywhere in the world. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com When they figure out how to use quantum entangled bits

Re: [gentoo-user] How do you handle new Xorg + nvidia + ~x86?

2007-09-11 Thread Kent Fredric
On 9/12/07, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:20:16 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: it works for several people in the nvidia forum. With no 'it does not work' messages. If we're taking a vote, it works for me too, although the option is -ignoreABI, not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: reiserfsprogs

2007-08-01 Thread Kent Fredric
On 8/1/07, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kent Fredric kentfredric at gmail.com writes: X/kde runs fine, but when I exit it now, the system latches up, tight all ssh sessions, the console, everything. Now X/kde will not start. Everything latches up as soon as I enter 'startx

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching from Genkernel to manual build

2007-08-01 Thread Kent Fredric
On 8/1/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /etc/genkernel.conf # Run 'make menuconfig' before compiling this kernel? MENUCONFIG=no # Run 'make clean' before compilation? # If set to NO, implies MRPROPER WILL NOT be run # Also, if clean is NO, it won't copy over any configuration # file,

Re: [gentoo-user] Apache not compiling

2007-08-01 Thread Kent Fredric
On 8/1/07, Alessandro del Gallo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, when I try to compile Apache, I get this error. those are use flags, I try some configuratiosn but always get an error zombie ~ # grep apache /etc/portage/package.use www-servers/apache -doc -apache2 -ssl -mpm-itk -mpm-leader

Re: [gentoo-user] Apache not compiling

2007-08-01 Thread Kent Fredric
On 8/1/07, Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/1/07, Alessandro del Gallo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, when I try to compile Apache, I get this error. those are use flags, I try some configuratiosn but always get an error zombie ~ # grep apache /etc/portage/package.use www

Re: [gentoo-user] Apache not compiling

2007-08-01 Thread Kent Fredric
On 8/2/07, Alessandro del Gallo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I did built it with mpm-prefork http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mpm.html but it failed: http://pastebin.com/m7096a3ad I have some trouble with other configures (gstreamer and gtk+ ) for that I posted this:

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching from Genkernel to manual build

2007-08-01 Thread Kent Fredric
On 8/2/07, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mittwoch, 1. August 2007, Kent Fredric wrote: On 8/1/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /etc/genkernel.conf # Run 'make menuconfig' before compiling this kernel? MENUCONFIG=no # Run 'make clean' before

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: reiserfsprogs

2007-07-31 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/31/07, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volker.armin.hemmann at tu-clausthal.de writes: I've never seen starting up X/kde cause a system to hang before... Is the whole system handing, or just X? The entire system latches up tight, even the ssh remote shells

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: reiserfsprogs

2007-07-30 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/30/07, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 5) If (2) indicates corruptions that can only be corrected by --rebuild-tree a) If you suspect your hardware is failing -- replace it. reiserfs doesn't like bad hardware and continuing the recovery process on it will likely cause

Re: [gentoo-user] Receiving GWN via email?

2007-07-28 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/28/07, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Samstag, 28. Juli 2007, Billy McCann wrote: Hi. Could someone confirm that they are receiving the GWN to their inbox, so that I'll know it's just me not getting it? That'd be swell. I don't receive it too. It is on the web

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't compile eix

2007-07-28 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/28/07, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a much abused gentoo system on which I was trying to update eix. I get quite a few errors and i am not sure how far back up the output to go. Heres the last bits anyway. Can anyone tell me what I can do to fix that?

Re: [gentoo-user] Running Scripts

2007-07-28 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/28/07, Greg Lindstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! Thanks for the help. See my comments below pertaining to individual remarks. --greg Alex asked: is is possible that you saved the text file in DOS format, with CR-LF endings instead of LF only? If od -t x2 hello.py shows 0a0d

Re: [gentoo-user] Running Scripts

2007-07-28 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/29/07, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28 July 2007, Kent Fredric wrote: try a plain old bash script and see if that works, and try this and see if it works: cat testrun.c #include stdio.h int main(int argc, int* argv) { printf(helloworld); } ( press ctrl+d here

Re: [gentoo-user] reiserfsprogs

2007-07-28 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/29/07, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Were are the docs for the utilities for sys-fs/reiserfsprogs ? I cannot seem to locate any documentation of running fsck or such utilities manually on a reiserfs partition. I want to read about what those utilities are and how they work.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Running Scripts

2007-07-28 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/29/07, Moshe Kamensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, * Greg Lindstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27/07/07 12:18]: Hello- I am programming Python (2.4.1) scripts to run on our Gentoo boxes and am having a bit of trouble I was hoping you could help me with. My file, hello.py looks like

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks to the user community

2007-07-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/28/07, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While we're on the subject... I'd like to the free software user community. Free software would be meaningless without you. I especially appreciate the users who have * Used free software. * Submitted bug reports, ideas,

Re: [gentoo-user] Still can't play audio CD's

2007-07-26 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/26/07, Colleen Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kent Fredric wrote: Does your CDROM drive have a dedicated headphone socket?, if so, plug it in and see if you get any sound. My personal suggestion : ditch kscd. My cd player/sound system works fine, and kscd just thrashes doing the exact

Re: [gentoo-user] Still can't play audio CD's

2007-07-25 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/25/07, Colleen Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Dommett wrote: Colleen Beamer wrote: If anyone can provide me with direction, I would sure appreciate it. Sorry I can't help you with your ALSA config. I've been stuck for months now trying to enable SPDIF-out on my own laptop.

Re: [gentoo-user] Hotswapable Drive

2007-07-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/25/07, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'd like to know what's the current best practice to handle a hotswapable SATA-drive. It's the optical drive of my Dell Latitude D520 laptop, the so called Media Bay. If I plug it in while the system is online, it is not recognized.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] English sucks (was: Re: Installation problems)

2007-07-19 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Boom Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:35 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] [OT] English sucks (was: Re: Installation

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/modules.d how to understand

2007-07-16 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/17/07, Helmut Jarausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'd like to understand the magic of files in /etc/modules.d How to write such an 'alias' line. Can anybody point me to a HowTo? E.g. in kernel 2.6.22 there is no more an option to select a USB-WACOM tablet input. I've built the kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)

2007-07-05 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/5/07, Paul Waring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:40:10PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: emerge is along the same lines. make menuconfig is the limits of my expertise. I remember RPM hell with Redhat linux, trying to find an RPM package for a program I wanted, where

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Storing ssh and gpg keys in USB flash drives

2007-07-05 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/5/07, José González Gómez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I would like to store my ssh and gpg keys in my usb flash drive, but I'm not sure what's the best way to do it: If I use vfat so I can also read them from Windows I have two problems: first you must mount your USB key with a

Re: [gentoo-user] Index to /usr/share/doc/...html... a reinvented wheel?

2007-07-04 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/4/07, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emerge with the doc USE flag and generally have a bunch of stuff in /usr/share/doc. Most of the time it's the HTML stuff I want to read, but it's a annoyingly laborious to wade through unindexed directgories and get a browser pointing to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)

2007-07-04 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/4/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the remaining Gentoo users in a negative way. blatant bias I

Re: [gentoo-user] Change the case of file names

2007-07-04 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/3/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 02 July 2007 23:08, Willie Wong wrote: from 'info sed' - Examples #! /bin/sh # rename files to lower/upper case... [snip...] (And don't ask me why I remember this particular example being in the sed info page ;p ) WOW! I

Re: [gentoo-user] Change the case of file names

2007-07-04 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7/5/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:03, Kent Fredric wrote: If you want something that should work on all linuxes in theory without the need for changing the disk standard to something thats potentially incompatible with a given system ( say for example

Re: [gentoo-user] eaccelerator messes up virtual webapps

2007-06-30 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/30/07, Christoph Erdle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I encountered a really annoying behavior of eccelerator. On my server I run several installs of wordpress using gentoo's webapp-config, all up to the same version. When the cache is empty all works as expected, it caches the called php

Re: [gentoo-user] Open Relay - What Happened?

2007-06-29 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/29/07, Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vladimir Rusinov wrote: You have problems with client restrictions. It is very weird that spammer haven't attacked your server since November. Thanks for your help Vladimir, I believe my e-mail server is secure now! -- Randy Barlow

Re: [gentoo-user] fragmented data

2007-06-29 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/29/07, Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: And when you have fragmented data something like 5mb/sec sustained is hard to achieve . Is there a utility to defrag reiserfs filesystems? What about ext filesystems? -- Randy Barlow http://electronsweatshop.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel heat warnings at low temps

2007-06-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/27/07, James Ausmus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] What has the hdd temp to do with cpu tmeprature? [...] hddtemp and cputemp are completly and totally unrelated. [...] First ...

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5.7 : slow shutdown

2007-06-17 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/18/07, Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KDE 3.5.7 is significantly slower than 3.5.6 to shutdown (15 sec, was 5 sec). I use 'startx' from a raw console to start it 'logout' from the KDE menu to close it (then shutdown from the console). There are various apps running on desktops, but

Re: [gentoo-user] skype

2007-06-17 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/18/07, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17 June 2007, Matthew R. Lee wrote: Well skype upgraded this morning to version 1.4.0.74 and it aint working. When I tried running it from the command line I get the following: /opt/skype/skype: error while loading shared libraries:

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge kdesktop fails

2007-06-17 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/18/07, dexter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is from emerge --info Portage 2.1.2.7 (default-linux/x86/2007.0, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r3, 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 i686) = System uname: 2.6.20-gentoo-r8 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2900+ Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Modelling software - free - preferably easy to install under Gentoo.

2007-06-16 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/17/07, Steve [Gentoo] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some (say 100) discrete data sequences sampling a single analogue system with time-stamp data. I would like to do some analysis on these signals to see if there are any interesting things that can be demonstrated - for example, if I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages

2007-06-15 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/16/07, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 15 June 2007, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Re: Finer grained kde*-meta packages': Suppose you've got the following use case: Install all of KDE, but leave out PPP stuff. How would you solve

Re: [gentoo-user] Damaged file in portage cache

2007-06-14 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/14/07, Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 070614 Jean-Baptiste Mestelan wrote: I cannot emerge --sync , as this brings out the following error : Updating Portage cache: Traceback (most recent call last): -- snip -- OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:

Re: [gentoo-user] M$ Excel document converter

2007-06-13 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/13/07, Abraham Marín Pérez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you checked that document's Excel format? Maybe KSpread can't read it because of a too new Excel format, try re-saving it in an older one. If anybody finds something that will read the new OpenXML document that the new $MS's is

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate mails?

2007-06-13 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/14/07, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Is it just me, or is the list sending out duplicate mails? For example, I have received two of every post today on the M$ Excel document converter thread alan -0.5 here ( so when you add my dupes together you'll get a -1 ;) ) Is

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Installers for Blizzard Products

2007-06-13 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/14/07, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, guys I hope some of you won't find this message too much spam-alike. Today I accidentally found there is a petition on-line [1]. It represents a request to Blizzard to include Linux installers in their products. I thought the gamers from the

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-12 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/13/07, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, this isn't really about slots vs. no slots, but shows that slots are not necessary. cu Well, IMO everything should be slotted 100% every version able to be installed in parallel, and packages depend on version, and versions with no

Re: [gentoo-user] Again: Critical bugs considered invalid

2007-06-12 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/13/07, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's take an different part of life, not computers, take policits. I'm an elected representative. I have to decide lots of things here. Normally somebody brings some proposable we should vote on. Usually we talk

Re: [gentoo-user] Again: Critical bugs considered invalid

2007-06-11 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/11/07, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2007-06-09 at 21:13 +1200, Kent Fredric wrote: Genoo Everything. given Everything = Gentoo + Debian + RedHat + ..., let EverythingElse = Everything - Gentoo; then Gentoo Everything =~ Gentoo Gentoo + EverythingElse =~ Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-09 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/9/07, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, but you see, in half the cases there is not a /complete/ incompatibility. PHP4-5 migration is not an entirely big switch, the biggest problem IIRC in the 4-5 change is the way it handles classes

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Again: Critical bugs considered invalid

2007-06-09 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/9/07, Zachary Grafton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 08 June 2007 19:29, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Samstag, 9. Juni 2007, »Q« wrote: In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Freitag, 8. Juni 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote: b.n. [EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-user] Again: Critical bugs considered invalid

2007-06-09 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/9/07, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kent Fredric ha scritto: On 6/8/07, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ( probably releated to it being a generally harder distro to use that *cough* ewwbuntu *cough* unlinspired *cough* or *cough* deadrat *cough* ) OT: Ubuntu distros (Kubuntu, expecially

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Again: Critical bugs considered invalid

2007-06-09 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/9/07, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kent Fredric wrote: On 6/9/07, Zachary Grafton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 08 June 2007 19:29, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Maybe someone should submit a bug report http://www.xkcd.com/c258.html I tried . Critical bug

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Firefox's Connecting

2007-06-09 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/10/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me what Firefox is doing when it says it is Connecting to a particular website? My site is periodically hanging at that point, and I'd like to track down the problem. Is it just waiting for apache2's first response to the

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Question about glsa-check

2007-06-09 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/10/07, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last several times I've run glsa-check, it's recommended that I emerge a package that portage claims is already installed on my system: camille ~ # glsa-check -t all This system is affected by the following GLSAs: 200705-03 camille ~ #

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Firefox's Connecting

2007-06-09 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/10/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me what Firefox is doing when it says it is Connecting to a particular website? My site is periodically hanging at that point, and I'd like to track down the problem. Is it just waiting for apache2's first response

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Question about glsa-check

2007-06-09 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/10/07, Alex Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kent Fredric writes: On 6/10/07, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last several times I've run glsa-check, it's recommended that I emerge a package that portage claims is already installed on my system: [...] Its possible

Re: [gentoo-user] Again: Critical bugs considered invalid

2007-06-08 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/8/07, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I tell you a secret: even with all its quirks and defects, Gentoo has one of the more friendly and helpful communities in the OSS world. Try have a look at the Debian, OpenBSD or Slackware forums/ml/IRC channels, and you'll understand. I concur,

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-08 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/9/07, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What flexibility do I take away exactly ? And what exactly gets harder ? Automated building of dependant packages Gentoo has a collection of magic script that do make this nice for us. ie ( last I looked anyway ) java-config and autoconf

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-08 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/9/07, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/9/07, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What flexibility do I take away exactly ? And what exactly gets harder ? Automated building of dependant packages More precisely ? AFAICS

Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-06-08 Thread Kent Fredric
On 6/9/07, Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/9/07, Kent Fredric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the case of autoconf, im personally glad it all hides under one non-linear space-time-continumum on my harddrive ;) . The thought of them all being in seperate ebuild names would drive me

Re: [gentoo-user] Again: Critical bugs considered invalid

2007-06-07 Thread Kent Fredric
Bug reports need to be thorough. If they do not provide enough information to reproduce a bug, or at least explain exactly what is going on, then it is hard for the developers and bug squashers to do anything about it. Sometimes, as the reported, you miss some important things. Okay.

Re: [gentoo-user] XFS problems

2007-06-02 Thread Kent Fredric
On 5/31/07, Jules Colding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 08:24 -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: Jules Colding wrote: May 30 10:29:40 omc-2 [10822.156355] sd 0:4:1:0: SCSI error: return code = 0x00040001 May 30 10:29:40 omc-2 [10822.156423] end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and KISS ?

2007-05-18 Thread Kent Fredric
/etc/genkernel.conf MENUCONFIG=no MRPROPER=no CLEAN=no BOOTSPLASH=no SAVE_CONFIG=yes DEBUGLEVEL=5 BOOTLOADER=grub USECOLOR=yes cd /usr/src/linux zcat /proc/config.gz .config make oldconfig genkernel --kernname=WhateverFitsMyMood all the above gives you you the power to configure your kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and KISS ?

2007-05-18 Thread Kent Fredric
sorry, top posted :S... damn gmail forgetting. -- Kent ruby -e '[1, 2, 4, 7, 0, 9, 5, 8, 3, 10, 11, 6, 12, 13].each{|x| print enNOSPicAMreil [EMAIL PROTECTED][(2*x)..(2*x+1)]}' -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo gets as bad SuSE: Circular dependencies [WAS: Thank you Gentoo devs]

2007-05-18 Thread Kent Fredric
Quite Erroneous Debate? Jakub is no longer a bug-wrangler, or a dev, he retired last month. Ah, good things still happen ? ;P Jakub was very good at his job, but he does have an attitude problem. Are you trying to emulate him, you are already halfway there? Give the guy a break :P. When

Re: [gentoo-user] Beagle eating up Resources!! (BEagled-index-helper)

2007-02-28 Thread Kent Fredric
no clue what exactly is happening and now, I'm frequently getting pissed at it and kill it. This is version 0.2.16 in portage BTW How often do people here actually -use- beagle? I removed it after finding I never really used it, and that the default short cut for it and the memory usage it

Re: [gentoo-user] Changed behaviour of emerge --tree???

2007-02-17 Thread Kent Fredric
On 2/18/07, Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am quite sure that emerge --uupdate --deep --newuse --tree world previously just showed what it would do (in reverse order). It implied --pretend. But now suddenly it starts to actually build stuff. Is something broken or has emerge been changed

Re: [gentoo-user] Help - system reboots while compiling

2007-02-11 Thread Kent Fredric
On 2/11/07, Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, I am having trouble when compiling things on Gentoo. When I start a compile, it goes partway through and then reboots the machine (I can't confirm it's due to a compile but it seems likely since I have been compiling things each of the

Re: [gentoo-user] broken python howto

2007-01-29 Thread Kent Fredric
On 1/30/07, Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any ideas and/or suggestions will be much appreciated. -- The Last time i had one of those problems I cracked out an old binpkg I had lying around ( a lesson I learned a while back on freebsd when i had make,gcc and tar ALL break due to a

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 1/28/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did just try chrooting into my laptop's /dev/hda3 copy on my desktop system with: chroot /home/grant/hda3 /bin/bash and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Kent Fredric
On 1/28/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't checked the laptop drive yet. Can I make a smartmontools package for the x86 laptop on the amd64 desktop? How can I do that? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list ... that could also possibly explain why vim is dying, if

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help

2007-01-27 Thread Kent Fredric
I did a fresh format and install with the GTK installer from a LiveCD and on the second boot errors are detected in the file system. I guess it's over for this drive? If its within its warranty, send it back and ask for a replacement. Make sure try get a technical explanation of what exactly

Re: [gentoo-user] hardware suggestion: video camera

2007-01-26 Thread Kent Fredric
On 1/27/07, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I'm looking for an cost effective video camera with (almost) TV quality for recording directly to an gentoo box. May also be an digicam w/ video recording capability. Which device would you suggest ? thx I got a cheap Logitech

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