Re: [gentoo-user] /boot filesystem, SSDs, TRIM

2018-08-25 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM Dale wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong here, it used to be that grub, the original > version not the current bloated one, had to have ext2. The upstream version. Various distributions added ext4 support to grub1 (circa 2009, IIRC). None of the patches were

Re: [gentoo-user] /boot filesystem, SSDs, TRIM

2018-08-25 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 9:20 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 10:58 PM Adam Carter wrote: >> >> For a long time people recommended ext2 for /boot. The Gentoo wiki >> still does. Is there any compelling reason to use ext2 for /boot (on >> a system whose other filesystems

Re: [gentoo-user] All Gentoo signing key expired and no way to fix it

2018-07-06 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 5:43 PM gevisz wrote: > > but it "shot" only after sourcing /etc/profile. Which is what "su -l" does.

Re: [gentoo-user] All Gentoo signing key expired and no way to fix it

2018-07-06 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 5:39 PM gevisz wrote: > 2018-07-03 16:22 GMT+03:00 Mart Raudsepp : >> If you use su, you should be using "su -" (or "su -l" or "su --login"), >> not "su". > > I have used only "su" for already 3 years, since switched to Gentoo > from Ubuntu and never had any problems with

Re: [gentoo-user] NFS and user IDs

2018-06-09 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 6:43 AM Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > Is there _any_ way around the need to keep the user IDs matched on NFS > clients and servers? You have to use NIS, NIS+Kerberos, or LDAP+Kerberos. I've never tried it but "/etc/idmapd.conf" has a "[Static]" section in which you can set up

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't fetch distfiles in chroot

2018-04-27 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:12 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > So, again, I went off half-cocked (sorry about the noise). The problem is that > the NFS mount in the chroot picks different ports each time, so the client's > firewall drops all NFS packets. > > Now I just have to

Re: [gentoo-user] bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

2018-04-02 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:54 PM, wrote: > On 03/30/2018 11:10 AM, Bas Zoutendijk wrote: >> On Fri 30 Mar 2018 at 10:33:45 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> >>> I'm using a scrip to log-in/boot strap the system over NFS >>> >>> - >>> #!/bin/sh >>> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] shutdown: /run/initctl: No such file or directory ???

2018-03-30 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 3:56 PM, wrote: >> >> just a minute before I wanted to shutdown my Linux box...and... >> shutdown: /run/initctl: No such file or directory > > See bug 651990.

Re: [gentoo-user] shutdown: /run/initctl: No such file or directory ???

2018-03-30 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 3:56 PM, wrote: > > just a minute before I wanted to shutdown my Linux box...and... > shutdown: /run/initctl: No such file or directory Isn't "/run/initctl" a Debianism?!

Re: [gentoo-user] Ubuntu with Gentoo somehow...

2018-03-26 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:36 AM, <tu...@posteo.de> wrote: > On 03/25 10:02, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 8:47 AM, <tu...@posteo.de> wrote: >> >> >>> is there a way to download the archive (or how is it called in the >>> world of Ubu

Re: [gentoo-user] Ubuntu with Gentoo somehow...

2018-03-25 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 8:47 AM, wrote: > is there a way to download the archive (or how is it called in the > world of Ubuntu ?) of a program, from which I only know the apt-get > and apt-install commands? A "deb" file, which you can expand with "ar" (no need to install

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-03 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 7:55 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 04:40:37PM -0700, Grant Taylor wrote >> On 02/28/2018 02:15 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: >>> >>> Is there something besides iptables? >> >> nftables > > Assuming I just want filtering, could I emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-03 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:48 PM, Walter Dnes <waltd...@waltdnes.org> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 12:58:44PM -0500, Tom H wrote >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Walter Dnes <waltd...@waltdnes.org> wrote: >>> >>> Is there something besides iptables? It s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-01 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2018-02-28, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > >> Is there a windows style application layer firewall? > > Can you describe what that means? (For the benefit of those of us that > aren't familiar with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-01 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 6:22 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > > Is there a windows style application layer firewall? I get that it doesn't > stop truly malicious programs but I am simply wanting to stop random > programs doing connections without my consent which due to the lennart >

Re: [gentoo-user] [SUSPECTED SPAM] [OT] Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-03-01 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Is there something besides iptables? It seems to be like > systemd/perl/python, continuously expanding its scope. And no, I'm not > looking for an "easy-peasy front-end gui" that'll probably pull in 90% > of QT as

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2: hidden menu unless shift pressed?

2018-02-17 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:58 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > > It's been a while since I've done this, but I thought the hotkey was ESC > not shift? > > All I had to do was use: > > GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 > GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=5 > > Grub will wait for the escape key to be pressed for 5

Re: [gentoo-user] grub2: hidden menu unless shift pressed?

2018-02-17 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > > I'm trying to figure out how to configure grub 2.02 so that no menu is > displayed and it will boot immediately to the default unless shift is > held down during boot -- in which case it displays the menu and

Fwd: Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 boot problem

2018-02-14 Thread Tom H
Wonderful off-list message... -- Forwarded message -- From: <mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com> Date: Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 4:40 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 boot problem To: Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> Please FUCK OFF. if you must make noise, plea

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 boot problem

2018-02-13 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 7:21 PM, wrote: > > you need to include the punctuation, specifically the ":"s, which > usually are a "-", mac addresses use the ":" but unless the syntax has > changed/broadened you have to have the "-" for seperating the fields > in

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 boot problem

2018-02-13 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Magnus Johansson wrote: >> [ I assume that "46488b259685a3b9c52b7449d592dc80" is the UUID that's >> displayed as "UUID" or "Array UUID" when you use "mdadm -D ..." or >> "mdadm -E ..." respectively ] > > Almost, mdadm says

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 boot problem

2018-02-12 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Magnus Johansson wrote: > 2018-02-07 18:50 GMT+01:00 Steven Lembark : >> On Mon, 5 Feb 2018 22:00:39 +0100 >> Magnus Johansson wrote: >> >> From my grub.cfg: >> >> insmod gzio >> insmod part_msdos >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 boot problem

2018-02-12 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Magnus Johansson wrote: >>> >>> I've got a fresh Gentoo installation that does not boot. I just end up in >>> the Grub2 shell. >>> >>> However when there if I do 'set root=(md/0)' and 'configfile /grub/grub.cfg' >>> I do get to the Grub2 menu where

Re: [gentoo-user] Peculiar problem: no su - to root

2018-02-04 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > > I've just completed getting gentoo booted as guest in vbox vm. > > I'm having a peculiar problem. I cannot call `su -' or `su root' and > login as root. > > I can still get to root by `ssh root@localhost' having set up >

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 boot problem

2018-02-04 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 2:58 PM, Magnus Johansson wrote: > > I've got a fresh Gentoo installation that does not boot. I just end up in > the Grub2 shell. > > However when there if I do 'set root=(md/0)' and 'configfile /grub/grub.cfg' > I do get to the Grub2 menu where Gentoo boots

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-12 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > "journalctl" is just the same as "less /var/log/messages" so here's > not much to learn unless you want to use the search features. Reading > the log from a remote machine is easy, using either SSH or HTTP, > whichever

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-11 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 18:56:15 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> This may come as a surprise to some, but some things you hear on >> t'internet are not true... >> >> For example, the http server is there to allow access to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-11 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 09:02:24PM +, Wols Lists wrote >> On 10/12/17 10:13, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>> >>> I've no idea how good systemd is. It's not been through the normal >>> process of choice and selection that

Re: [gentoo-user] grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-05 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:39 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > > I was genuinely annoyed with grub2 due to its update and massive config > files, so I never upgraded to it. I usually had multiple kernel versions and > grub2 helpfully labeled them all "Linux" so I couldn't tell them

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

2017-11-05 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, <tu...@posteo.de> wrote: > On 11/05 06:29, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20 AM, <tu...@posteo.de> wrote: >>> >>> I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which >>> has the extension "*.Ap

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

2017-11-05 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20 AM, wrote: > > I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which > has the extension "*.AppImage". > > What is that? > > Is it possible to "unpack" that into something more common? > How to handle that? Does it use this spec?

Re: [gentoo-user] LXD

2017-10-24 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 3:28 AM, john wrote: > > I have set up some containers with LXD which have been running fine up > to about a week ago. > > cgmanager no longer works as it crashes out and when I connect to > containers:- > > systemctl > Failed to connect to bus: No

Re: [gentoo-user] Why I can't I build systemd without ipv6?

2017-10-14 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 10/13/2017 11:05 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> Have you tried to boot the systems with the "disable_ipv6=1" kernel >> parameter? > > I just tried this, and it doesn't seem to help. > > # cat /proc/cmdline >

Re: [gentoo-user] conf.d/net routes

2017-09-02 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > What is the exact syntax of the *_routes lines in the /etc/conf.d/net > file, or where is it documented? > > The wiki gives a couple of examples, but they are all either just for > dhcp (so no configurable routes) or

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-22 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Dale wrote: > > I have this set to send text only for gentoo.org and kde.org. Someone > replied making me think it is not doing as instructed, even tho settings > says it is. Can someone tell me for sure and certain that this is > sending as

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Simple to upgrade Linux distro

2017-07-23 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Dale wrote: > > I've installed Linux Mint with Mate. Isn't Mate as heavy as Gnome on your low-powered box? Isn't it Gnome 3 with Gnome-shell replaced by the Mate interface?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ntp Vs openntp vis a vis Plasma desktop

2017-06-18 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 09:44:27PM +1000, Michael Palimaka wrote >> >> Someone raised the issue that the "time server" option in the date >> and time applet was greyed out on their system. It turns out that >> this

Re: [gentoo-user] What gives with all these file collisions?

2017-06-04 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:07 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 08:23:22 +0200 > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> Or you could use Ubuntu. > > Can you please refrain from such phrases. History with Alab G. As an Ubuntu user, perhaps I should take

Re: [gentoo-user] bashrc in console

2017-03-22 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Hogren wrote: > On 22/03/2017 13:58, Hogren wrote: >> On 22/03/2017 13:57, Hogren wrote: >>> On 22/03/2017 13:42, Arthur Țițeică wrote: În ziua de miercuri, 22 martie 2017, la 14:34:50 EET, Hogren a scris: > > Anybody knows why

Re: [gentoo-user] modules-load restart

2017-03-17 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:13:22 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: but running: /etc/init.d/modules-load restart does not restart the module. >>> >>> Does modprobe load it? >> >> Yes, it did; thank you. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] How to dump kde gracefully in favor of lxde

2017-02-19 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > Oh I meant SELinux, and pls. be the first to deny there were hooks > planted in Linux by Linus via the LSM (the Linux Security Module, for > the general audience), as per: > > Developer Raps Linux Security >

Re: [gentoo-user] journald writing errors in tty

2017-02-01 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Daniel Frey <djqf...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 02/01/2017 05:57 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Daniel Frey <djqf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know how to stop journald from writing errors all o

Re: [gentoo-user] journald writing errors in tty

2017-02-01 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:16 AM, Daniel Frey wrote: > > Does anyone know how to stop journald from writing errors all over my > terminal? > > I've never seen this before. The error message shows up in dmesg as it's > supposed to but it also writes it whereever the cursor happens

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-31 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday 30 Jan 2017 06:10:47 Tom H wrote: >> >> AFAIK, since the advent of defaulting to CoreStorage (OS X 10.10? - OS >> X's equivalent of LVM) and full-disk encryption (OS X 10.10?), >

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-30 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sunday 29 Jan 2017 14:44:45 Tom H wrote: >> >> [1] Apple's EFI firmware can read hfsplus and it boots (IIRC since OS >> X 10.10) from a kernel on the Apple_Boot partition (disk0s3). >

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-29 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Mick wrote: > > rEFInd is definitely a slick and useful boot manager for multibooting. > On this occasion I did not install it, but decided to remain > minimalist, because I do not want to interfere much with the AppleMac > installation.

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-28 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 5:50 PM, Bill Kenworthy <bi...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > On 28/01/17 00:25, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Bill Kenworthy <bi...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>> >>> I tried grub2 and dumped it for "rEFit" - ended

Re: [gentoo-user] SNAFU: TO THE N'TH POWER!

2017-01-28 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Alan Grimes wrote: > > Had another learning experience with respect to how GPT disks work., > system is buttoned up and operating in GPT mode. In old systems, the > boot sectors and bootstrap loaders were kinda consigned to a digital >

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-27 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:10 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > I tried grub2 and dumped it for "rEFit" - ended up a lot easier and > more robust. rEFIt or rEFInd?

Re: [gentoo-user] Bootloaders: SILENT CRISIS!!!

2017-01-27 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Alan Grimes wrote: > I looked for more information on GRUB form upstream but, on first > impression, it's been an abandoned project since 2012... Apparently > some users have posted patches to things like the invalid sector size > problem

Re: [gentoo-user] snafu: the update

2017-01-27 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Alan Grimes <alonz...@verizon.net> wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> AFAIK, when you load the kernel directly from the EFI firmware, it has >> to have the ".efi" suffix. But that doesn't explain why it would stall >> when loaded from

Re: [gentoo-user] snafu: the update

2017-01-25 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Alan Grimes wrote: > > The linux kernel stalls stone cold dead in either direct from firmware > or pass through grub mode. AFAIK, when you load the kernel directly from the EFI firmware, it has to have the ".efi" suffix. But that doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] How to do GRUB2 multiple partions on USB key?

2017-01-25 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 10:39 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > I notice some comments that menu.lst is "legacy GRUB", and GRUB2 has > gone off the deep end with a ton of config files. Unless you want to customize your grub menu in a way not desired or anticipated by the grub2

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] How to do GRUB2 multiple partions on USB key?

2017-01-25 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 6:02 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > GRUB2 counts partitions from 1, but drives from 0 (a brilliant > decision) so these would be (hd1,6) and (hd1,7). They should've changed hd0/hd1/... to hda/hdb/... when they changed (hd0,msdos1) to correspond to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: locale : cannot generate it

2017-01-11 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Jonathan Callen <jcal...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On 01/08/2017 11:36 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Helmut Jarausch <jarau...@skynet.be> wrote: >>> Urs wrote >>> >>>> You can generate a "

Re: [gentoo-user] locale : cannot generate it

2017-01-08 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > The strange C.UTF-8 , which was suggested by one of the devolopers of > media-gfx/darktable, did cause the problems. The error messages were > strange and misleading. > > Urs wrote > >> You can generate a "fake"

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-30 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> wrote: > On 161229-05:13-0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 1:53 PM, lee <l...@yagibdah.de> wrote: >> > Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> writes: >>>> >

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-29 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 1:53 PM, lee wrote: > Neil Bothwick writes: >> >> There is nothing wrong with wanting things to work as you do, but it >> requires input to do so. It you have to start editing files to make >> it work properly, there is little point

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-29 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 3:01 PM, lee <l...@yagibdah.de> wrote: > Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> writes: >> AFAIK, you have three possibilities. >> >> 1) If you're renaming a NIC via its MAC address, you have to edit the >> config file thatlinks the NIC's names

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-29 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 1:35 PM, lee <l...@yagibdah.de> wrote: > Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> writes: >> On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 9:07 PM, lee <l...@yagibdah.de> wrote: >>> >>> How is that more reliable? >> >> It's more reliable than using th

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-29 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 3:48 AM, Jorge Almeida <jjalme...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: >> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 02:26:05 -0500, Tom H wrote: >>> >>> It's the best thing that the systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-24 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 3:39 AM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 02:26:05 -0500, Tom H wrote: >>> >>> I don't use grub on UEFI systems, but I use the systemd bootloader, >>> so I thought I'd keep quiet about that ;-) >>

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-24 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 9:07 PM, lee <l...@yagibdah.de> wrote: > Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> writes: >> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Daniel Frey <djqf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> It is even more frustrating that these so-called predictable netw

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-24 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 8:57 PM, lee <l...@yagibdah.de> wrote: > Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> writes: >> [1] There's no need to learn/use the udev rules syntax. I use the >> following in "/etc/systemd/network/" on a Debian 8 system with >> sy

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-22 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Daniel Frey <djqf...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/21/2016 10:53 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Daniel Frey <djqf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> It could be I found a bug. After a reboot it went

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-22 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 7:38 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I don't use grub on UEFI systems, but I use the systemd bootloader, so I > thought I'd keep quiet about that ;-) I'm also a heretic who uses the systemd bootloader no matter what pid1 is in charge. It's the best thing

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-22 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 5:14 AM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 04:52:41 -0500, Tom H wrote: > >> All of this whining about predictable NIC names would be more or less >> OK if there wasn't an easy way to override them in >> "

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-22 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 3:56 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 04:15:50 +0100, lee wrote: >> >> The perceived advantage lies in being able to refer to network ports >> in a more reliable way, and I don't see how using unrecognisable >> names instead of

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage spokes again...

2016-12-21 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Corbin Bird wrote: > > ( PulseAudio is also being merged into systemd. Think about it. ) Unless the systemd developers have decided to stop targeting the non-desktop use-case, this is pure delirium.

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-21 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 5:04 PM, lee wrote: > Andrej Rode writes: >> >>> Or can you explain how unrecognisable names make things easier? >> >> Yeah they make life easier. From your talk you never had a problem >> with eth<0,10> switching names after boot.

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-21 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 12/19/2016 01:09 PM, Andrej Rode wrote: >> >> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ > > It could be I found a bug. After a reboot it went from the normal > enp0s1 (or

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-21 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: >> >> You don't need to be convinced. It's sufficient that I know systemd >> pretty well from the beginning when the Poettering fanboys of Arch

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-21 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am 20.12.2016 um 05:23 schrieb Andrej Rode: >> >> Yeah they make life easier. From your talk you never had a problem >> with eth<0,10> switching names after boot. Everyone who had them >> appreciates predictable network

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-21 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > > It is even more frustrating that these so-called predictable network > names actually can change on a reboot, it's happened to me more than > once when multiple network cards are detected in a different order. >From Kay

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-21 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Marc Joliet wrote: > When people compare systemd unit files to init scripts, they usually > mean *raw* (LSB?) sysvinit scripts (as IIUC Debian use{s,d}), with all > of their ridiculous amounts of boilerplate. The latest Debian init.d skeleton uses

Re: [gentoo-user] [O/T] netstat security puzzle

2016-12-17 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 2:26 AM, Mick wrote: > > I've grep-ped the whole of /etc, no mention of "Knoppix" there. > > I've also looked in /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-enp6s8.conf to see what > hostname NetworkManager sends to dhclient. No trace of "Knoppix" in there

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-17 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2016-12-17, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> But the VMS I like most are the FreeBSD ones; they run good >> old-fashioned rc. > > It's been a while since I ran VMS, but it had little very

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-17 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > > I didn't ask for a howto for installing Gentoo on a Pi, I asked for a > howto for getting rid of systemd on recent versions of Arch Linux, > Debian, Raspbian, Ubuntu, Fedora etc. You said it's possible and I'm > not

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-17 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 4:36 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 12/17/2016 12:53 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 00:55:21 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: >>> >>> Again, the average home user is being jerked around for >>> a corporate agenda. >> >> Yes, it is disgusting

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

2016-12-17 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 12:55 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 02:16:27PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote >> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Miroslav Rovis >> wrote: >>> It's been discussed over and over again. Lots of people

Re: [gentoo-user] sans-dbus was: gnome intrusion?

2016-11-19 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > Ah, I almost forgot. Gentoo is as default (OpenRC) without dbus! Have a > look: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems > > There is no D-Bus under "Main dependencies" for OpenRC (I really

Re: [gentoo-user] New Install

2016-09-24 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Christopher Robinson wrote: > > Again thanks for a specific reply, unlike Dale and Neil's. Is this necessary?!

Re: [gentoo-user] New Install

2016-09-24 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:16:00 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > >>> Call it Part 1 or Volume 1 if you prefer, the handbook itself doesn't >>> give such a label to the four sections. I meant the part called >>> "1. Installing

Re: [gentoo-user] Gummiboot -> efibootmgr

2016-08-23 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Håkon Alstadheim > wrote: >> Booting straight into linux on an EFI system without a boot-loader means >> you have no way to provide command-line or initramfs as

Re: [gentoo-user] Gummiboot -> efibootmgr

2016-08-23 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Following today's marking of gummiboot as to be deleted in a month, I had a > look at efibootmgr in the wiki pages. It looks as though I'll be able to use > it instead, but one thing puzzles me: is it possible to

Re: [gentoo-user] What's happened to gentoo-sources?

2016-08-23 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Peter Humphrey > wrote: >> >> Well, according to eix, there's only 4.4.19 between 4.1.30 and 4.7.2. > > Those are just the versions packaged for Gentoo. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] 2 MTA at the same host

2016-08-08 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 7:56 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 15:40:45 +0500, Azamat Hackimov wrote: >> >> You know, this is very unusual configuration. I don't even can imagine >> why you need both of them. >> >> In order to resolve mutual block, you need to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR & GPT dual compliant format

2016-07-26 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Artur Zych <artur.z...@gmail.com> wrote: > 26 lip 2016 10:29 "Tom H" <tomh0...@gmail.com> napisał(a): >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:56 AM, Artur Zych <artur.z...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> If you're using GPT dis

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR & GPT dual compliant format

2016-07-26 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > On 26 July 2016 10:29:08 CEST, Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:56 AM, Artur Zych <artur.z...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> If you're using GPT disk

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR & GPT dual compliant format

2016-07-26 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:56 AM, Artur Zych wrote: > > If you're using GPT disk and want to use uefi then you can just create > one efi partition (should be around 200-500mb (depends if you're > planning on using multiple systems on the same disk) - this will hold > .efi

Re: [gentoo-user] nfsv4 issues

2016-07-24 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 3:37 AM, Adam Carter wrote: > I've added the directory, and after restarting syslog now has new entries; >> >> kernel: [912267.948883] NFSD: Using /var/lib/nfs/v4recovery as the NFSv4 >> state recovery directory >> kernel: NFSD: Using

Re: [gentoo-user] nfsv4 issues

2016-07-24 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Adam Carter wrote: Does "/var/lib/nfs/v4recovery/" exist? >>> >>> No >>> # ls /var/lib/nfs/ >>> etab export-lock rmtab rpc_pipefs sm sm.bak state xtab >> >> IIRC, it's needed to avoid this delay. I thought that I'd saved a url >>

Re: [gentoo-user] nfsv4 issues

2016-07-22 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Adam Carter wrote: >> I don't use systemd on Gentoo but for the nfs-utils upstream-shipped >> systemd units that I think that Gentoo's using, you have to re-run >> nfs-config.service - or run the script that it calls - in order to >>

Re: [gentoo-user] nfsv4 issues

2016-07-19 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:49 AM, Adam Carter wrote: > > I'm trying to troubleshoot a newly setup nfs server, which, sometimes has a > 30 second pause (tcpdump shows its server waiting). > > # time touch /usr/portage/distfiles/testfile > > real0m30.088s > user

Re: [gentoo-user] booting - I don't anystand how the (Linux) world works anymore

2016-06-27 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Helmut Jarausch <jarau...@skynet.be> wrote: > On 06/25/2016 10:19:12 PM, Tom H wrote: >> >> You can use "root=PARTUUID=partuuid" where >> >> on an msdos-labeled disk: >> >> # findmnt / -o TARGET,SOURCE,PA

Re: [gentoo-user] booting - I don't anystand how the (Linux) world works anymore

2016-06-25 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > I'm a dino since I still use grub-1 but I prefer recent kernels (currently > 4.70-rc4) > > I don't understand the 'root=' option on the boot line like > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-4.7.0-rc4 root=/dev/sda1 > > Here my bad

Re: [gentoo-user] gnome 3 and wifi credentials

2016-06-21 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 3:57 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Does anyone have a pointer to where Gnome 3 (3.20 in my case) stores my > wifi credentials? > > I would love to sync that over to my new laptop without re-entering PSKs > at customers. Unless Gnome changes the

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?

2016-06-21 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Gentoo support for Snap is roughly as "official" as RedHat/Fedora support. > > See also > https://www.happyassassin.net/2016/06/16/on-snappy-and-flatpak-business-as-usual-in-the-canonical-propaganda-department/ >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?

2016-06-21 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 11:25 PM, J. wrote: > They say it's not a GNOME thing only, but born in the GNOME project, > Quote from their FAQ: > > "Is Flatpak tied to GNOME? > > No. While Flatpak has been developed by people with a long involvement > in the GNOME community it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?

2016-06-21 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 7:40 PM, José Maldonado <josemal...@gmail.com> wrote: > El 16/06/16 a las 13:32, Tom H escribió: >> >> When I first saw this, I thought "strange, maybe if Gentoo develops an >> 'esnap' in order to build the container-package locally"

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