Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-21 Thread Zsitvai János
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:46:12 -0600, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote: Portage can continue to build packages if one fails. # emerge -options package/list_of_packages || until emerge -same_options_as_before package/list_of_packages ; do : ;done Yes

RE: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-21 Thread Marzan, Richard non Unisys
-Original Message- From: Zsitvai János [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:47 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:46:12 -0600, Marzan

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:54:44 -0600, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote: One option that I would like is for the build to be done completely in ram until it's compiled and ready to be placed on disk. HDD I/O is the slowest part of the system avoiding it as much as possible on systems with plenty

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:08:13 +0200, Rumen Yotov wrote: Regarding claws-mail there's a script to rebuild it's plugins - see elogs. Since i first tried paludis-0.2.1, may still have some old use info (laziness) about paludis USE-flag (IIRC revdep-rebuild portage-utils, etc.had it). flagedit

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-20 Thread Ralf Stephan
Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis: http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensored Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis? Yes, and very satisfied. Even with the earlier versions. ralf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-20 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 20 December 2007 10:08:13 Rumen Yotov wrote: Watch out for some scripts (perl-cleaner, claw-mail, etc.) in which the use of portage/emerge is embedded. Put 'paludis' as USE-flag. Unless you use a crappy, unsupported overlay no such use flag exists. [...] Regarding claws-mail

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-20 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 20 December 2007 09:43:20 Neil Bothwick wrote: flagedit will warn you if you have any unsupported USE flags set. That and eix-test-obsolete are useful for keeping make.conf and /etc/portage clear of cruft. And the config-decruft ruby script that can be used with Paludis can do the

RE: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-20 Thread Marzan, Richard non Unisys
-Original Message- From: Iain Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:46 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 22:42 +0100, Zsitvai János wrote: And the recent addition of the option

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:46:12 -0600, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote: Portage can continue to build packages if one fails. # emerge -options package/list_of_packages || until emerge -same_options_as_before package/list_of_packages ; do : ;done Yes it can, but not with this, which will

RE: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-20 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 08:46 -0600, Marzan, Richard non Unisys wrote: Portage can continue to build packages if one fails. # emerge -options package/list_of_packages || until emerge -same_options_as_before package/list_of_packages ; do : ;done yes but wouldn't this continue regardless of

[gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Grant
Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis: http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensored Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi, On (19/12/07 08:43) Grant wrote: Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis: http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensored Thanks for the link. Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis? Yes, for some 4-5 months and plan to

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17:43:41 Grant wrote: Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis? Yes, I did it long time ago :-) Bye... Dirk -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread b.n.
Dirk Heinrichs ha scritto: On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17:43:41 Grant wrote: Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis? Yes, I did it long time ago :-) I'd like to try Paludis, looks very promising. I think I've read that Portage and Paludis can coexist happily. Can someone

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Grant
Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis: http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensored Thanks for the link. It really got the meta-wheels turning for me. I found especially interesting the fact that Paludis's use on Gentoo is

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Naga Toro
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17.43.41 Grant wrote: Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis: http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensor ed excellent is a bit much... Seems like a propaganda pice to me. That said I did find paludis a

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Mark Shields
On Dec 19, 2007 2:46 PM, Naga Toro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17.43.41 Grant wrote: Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis: http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensor ed excellent is a bit much...

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Rumen Yotov
On (19/12/07 20:05) b.n. wrote: Dirk Heinrichs ha scritto: On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17:43:41 Grant wrote: Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis? Yes, I did it long time ago :-) I'd like to try Paludis, looks very promising. I think I've read that Portage and

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Zsitvai János
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like to try Paludis, looks very promising. I think I've read that Portage and Paludis can coexist happily. Can someone confirm it? It would be useful for a transition. It works just fine. :) Later versions have the ability to use portage configuration files

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread b.n.
Mark Shields ha scritto: Portage has proved more than adequate for my needs. Paladis doesn't seem like anything I need or want. Well, Portage is adequate for my needs too, and I've never tried Paludis but the very continue-on-failure and underlays things look like, for example, two small but

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 21:37:38 Rumen Yotov wrote: Watch out for some scripts (perl-cleaner, claw-mail, etc.) in which the use of portage/emerge is embedded. Put 'paludis' as USE-flag. Unless you use a crappy, unsupported overlay no such use flag exists. Kind of curious how that relates

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 22:42 +0100, Zsitvai János wrote: And the recent addition of the option '--continue-on-failure' won me over all over again. :) I've been wondering for a long time why portage doesn't continue with building other packages when one fails - so long as deps are met why stop?

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 20 December 2007 02:46:20 Iain Buchanan wrote: And the recent addition of the option '--continue-on-failure' won me over all over again. :) I've been wondering for a long time why portage doesn't continue with building other packages when one fails - so long as deps are met why

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Richard Marzan
On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 22:42 +0100, Zsitvai János wrote: b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like to try Paludis, looks very promising. I think I've read that Portage and Paludis can coexist happily. Can someone confirm it? It would be useful for a transition. It works just fine. :) Later

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Zsitvai János
Richard Marzan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: May i have that script? I assume it's GPLed :-) Honestly, calling it a script is an embellishment. Perhaps phrasing it as 'something that keeps the faster moving parts of configuration in sync' would have been better. echo '*/* x86'

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Vasiliy G Tolstov
Grant wrote: Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis: http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensored Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis? - Grant i'm completely delete portage and use paludis. work's fine ;) -- С

Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Rumen Yotov
Bo Ørsted Andresen написа: On Wednesday 19 December 2007 21:37:38 Rumen Yotov wrote: Watch out for some scripts (perl-cleaner, claw-mail, etc.) in which the use of portage/emerge is embedded. Put 'paludis' as USE-flag. Unless you use a crappy, unsupported overlay no such use flag