Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-11 Thread Mick
2009/11/11 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com: On Mittwoch 11 November 2009, Walter Dnes wrote:   Programmers all seem to have gaming rigs.  It's been a struggle to keep hal and dbus off my machines.  And I was unhappy when Firefox put SQLite in as a hard dependancy.  I think

Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-10 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 10 November 2009 07:44:14 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: this has been discussed to death. Why don't you use google? amarok has a hard dependency on mysql. There is nothing you can do about it with useflags. The amarok devs have explained that several times. (sqlite too slow

Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:10:03 +, Mick wrote: Thanks Volker, I remember it being discussed, but didn't recall that mysql is a must - I thought that the USE flags could still offer a way out. Amarok 2 does not have a mysql USE flag. -- Neil Bothwick What's this script doing? unzip ;

Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 10 November 2009 10:57:51 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:10:03 +, Mick wrote: Thanks Volker, I remember it being discussed, but didn't recall that mysql is a must - I thought that the USE flags could still offer a way out. Amarok 2 does not have a mysql USE

Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-10 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: this has been discussed to death. Why don't you use google? amarok has a hard dependency on mysql. There is nothing you can do about it with useflags. The amarok devs have explained that several times. (sqlite too slow with big collections, no way to share

Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 10 November 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 10 November 2009 10:57:51 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:10:03 +, Mick wrote: Thanks Volker, I remember it being discussed, but didn't recall that mysql is a must - I thought that the USE flags could still

Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:26:33 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: amarok works great here. Everything works great somewhere, even Windows :P -- Neil Bothwick Picard: 'What do the sensors say Mr Data?' Data: 'They tell us that we can't say F*ck Sir. Picard: 'I meant the ship's sensors Mr

Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 10 November 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:26:33 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: amarok works great here. Everything works great somewhere, even Windows :P seroiously, what does not work great with amarok? it compiles, it installes, it scans my

Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 10 November 2009 13:34:08 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 10 November 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:26:33 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: amarok works great here. Everything works great somewhere, even Windows :P seroiously, what does not work

Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-10 Thread Nagatoro
On Tuesday 10 November 2009 13.14.13 Alan McKinnon wrote: [...] *** glibc detected *** amarok: free(): invalid pointer: 0x03295080 *** This is a highly debated issue, glibc has new checks for various things and it seems like some think the checks are to strict or even wrong while

Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-10 Thread Alex Schuster
Volker Armin Hemmann writes: On Dienstag 10 November 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:26:33 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: amarok works great here. Everything works great somewhere, even Windows :P seroiously, what does not work great with amarok? it compiles, it

Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 10 November 2009 14:27:26 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 10 November 2009, you wrote: On Tuesday 10 November 2009 13:34:08 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 10 November 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:26:33 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-10 Thread Erik
Nagatoro skrev: On Tuesday 10 November 2009 13.14.13 Alan McKinnon wrote: [...] *** glibc detected *** amarok: free(): invalid pointer: 0x03295080 *** This is a highly debated issue, glibc has new checks for various things and it seems like some think the checks are to

Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-10 Thread Walter Dnes
Programmers all seem to have gaming rigs. It's been a struggle to keep hal and dbus off my machines. And I was unhappy when Firefox put SQLite in as a hard dependancy. I think you'll simply have to give up on KDE and its applications. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org

Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 11 November 2009, Walter Dnes wrote: Programmers all seem to have gaming rigs. It's been a struggle to keep hal and dbus off my machines. And I was unhappy when Firefox put SQLite in as a hard dependancy. I think you'll simply have to give up on KDE and its applications.

[gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-09 Thread Mick
This morning I woke up to amarok-2.2.0 requiring mysql. No matter what USE flags I tried (-mysql, -semantic-desktop, -embedded, minimal) the darn thing wants mysql. The strange thing is that even when I specify -embedded +minimal I get this: # USE=-embedded minimal emerge -upDv amarok These

Re: [gentoo-user] Has mysql become compulsory - Part 2

2009-11-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
this has been discussed to death. Why don't you use google? amarok has a hard dependency on mysql. There is nothing you can do about it with useflags. The amarok devs have explained that several times. (sqlite too slow with big collections, no way to share collections, too much work to

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-27 Thread Mick
On Monday 26 October 2009 23:10:01 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 00:26:31 Mick wrote: Create the conventional addressbooks as files in ~/.kde4/share/kde4/services/resources - exactly as we did in KDE-3.5 Hmm I didn't have any files in there, there were all under

Fwd: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-26 Thread Mick
2009/10/25 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: On Sunday 25 October 2009 22:19:11 Mick wrote: # emerge -uatDv world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge      ] kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.3.1  USE=(-kdeprefix) [ebuild  N  

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 26 October 2009 16:26:23 Mick wrote: Which I guess proves the point that Dirk is making. If I were to emerge akonadi again, will it pop up everytime I start kmail, knode, etc? No, at least mine doesn't here. I forget exactly what I did to achieve this, it was something like

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-26 Thread Mick
On Monday 26 October 2009 20:26:54 Alan McKinnon wrote: I forget exactly what I did to achieve this, it was something like having trouble getting akonadi to work right, so I set all the kdepim apps to use the resource files directly in the fashion of KDE-3.5 Can you please share what

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 00:26:31 Mick wrote: Create the conventional addressbooks as files in ~/.kde4/share/kde4/services/resources - exactly as we did in KDE-3.5 Hmm I didn't have any files in there, there were all under ~/.kde3.5/share/apps/* I have set up conventional files or

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Stroller
On 24 Oct 2009, at 22:51, Dave Jones wrote: ... How presumptuous of you to say so. Has the gentoo-user group become the resource of last-resort? Has gentoo-user become restricted, to be used only when all other avenues of exploration have been exhausted? If that is so, then shame on

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Dave Jones
Alan McKinnon wrote on 25/10/09 01:38: Oh please, grow up, get a life and stop sounding like a spoilt brat. Thank you for this constructive and original comment. Just as useful as your other postings on this thread.

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Dave Jones
Neil Bothwick wrote on 25/10/09 00:51: I suppose you're also in favour of McDonalds putting Warning, contents may be hot notices of their coffee cups? Off topic?

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:11:28 +0100, Dave Jones wrote: I suppose you're also in favour of McDonalds putting Warning, contents may be hot notices of their coffee cups? Off topic? Only when taken out of context. -- Neil Bothwick A. Top posters. Q. What is the most annoying thing on

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Justin
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Samstag 24 Oktober 2009 02:02:16 schrieb Dave Jones: Please search the mail archives. Or read your elogs, it's all in there. Alan, thank you for your 'RTFM' reply. which is utterly useless either to me or any other follower of the gentoo-user mail group. It's

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Mick
On Sunday 25 October 2009 10:43:41 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:11:28 +0100, Dave Jones wrote: Back on topic I hope, it seems to me that KDE4 has made certain choices which detract from the Gentoo way of being able to run lean and mean should you choose to do so. I am waiting

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:08:12 +, Mick wrote: I guess that until then I will have to put up with the few seconds that akonadi tries to start, searches and then fails to find mysql. Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. --

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 13:05:53 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:08:12 +, Mick wrote: I guess that until then I will have to put up with the few seconds that akonadi tries to start, searches and then fails to find mysql. Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Mick
On Sunday 25 October 2009 12:30:32 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 13:05:53 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:08:12 +, Mick wrote: I guess that until then I will have to put up with the few seconds that akonadi tries to start, searches and then fails to

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 25 October 2009 13:08:12 Mick wrote: On Sunday 25 October 2009 10:43:41 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:11:28 +0100, Dave Jones wrote: Back on topic I hope, it seems to me that KDE4 has made certain choices which detract from the Gentoo way of being able to run lean

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:30:32 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. How would that affect akonadi? Because you no longer need it. Set USE=-semantic-desktop and akonadi isn't even installed.

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 14:18:45 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:30:32 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness. How would that affect akonadi? Because you no longer need it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Mick
On Sunday 25 October 2009 13:35:30 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 14:18:45 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:30:32 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in responsiveness.

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:19:11 +, Mick wrote: Which I guess proves the point that Dirk is making. If I were to emerge akonadi again, will it pop up everytime I start kmail, knode, etc? So it's needed by KMail, not KDE in general (I don't use KMail). -- Neil Bothwick There are 10 types

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 25 October 2009 22:19:11 Mick wrote: # emerge -uatDv world These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.3.1 USE=(-kdeprefix) [ebuild N] kde-base/akonadi-4.3.1 USE=(-aqua) -debug

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Sunday 25 October 2009 13:35:30 Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Sonntag 25 Oktober 2009 14:18:45 schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:30:32 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Or turn off desktop searching, as I have on my notebook with a noticeable improvement in

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-25 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 10/25/2009 8:10 PM, Dale wrote: Well, I put -semantic-desktop in my USE line and ran emerge -uvDN world. It recompiled several things and told me it had some @preserved-rebuild packages to build. So, I ran that and got this little message: r...@smoker / # emerge @preserved-rebuild -a

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Samstag 24 Oktober 2009, Dave Jones wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote on 24/10/09 01:39: On Saturday 24 October 2009 01:25:44 Dave Jones wrote: Ran an eix-sync followed by an emerge -puDNv world. It reported that my 'profile' was no longer supported, and suggested switching to the

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:02:16 +0200, Dave Jones wrote: Alan, thank you for your 'RTFM' reply. which is utterly useless either to me or any other follower of the gentoo-user mail group. Seeing as how this has been discussed in the last two days, I don't see how Alan's advice is useless. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-24 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag 24 Oktober 2009 02:02:16 schrieb Dave Jones: Please search the mail archives. Or read your elogs, it's all in there. Alan, thank you for your 'RTFM' reply. which is utterly useless either to me or any other follower of the gentoo-user mail group. It's neither useless to you nor

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-24 Thread Dave Jones
Neil Bothwick wrote on 24/10/09 09:53: On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:02:16 +0200, Dave Jones wrote: Alan, thank you for your 'RTFM' reply. which is utterly useless either to me or any other follower of the gentoo-user mail group. Seeing as how this has been discussed in the last two days, I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 24 October 2009 14:58:00 Dave Jones wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote on 24/10/09 09:53: On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:02:16 +0200, Dave Jones wrote: Alan, thank you for your 'RTFM' reply. which is utterly useless either to me or any other follower of the gentoo-user mail group. Seeing as

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-24 Thread Dave Jones
Alan McKinnon wrote on 24/10/09 22:18: Why should they do it again when you could just as easily find the previous answer yourself. I'll answer my own question, including detail which may be useful to other users It's only useless so you since you have not done the usual research yourself

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:51:05 +0200, Dave Jones wrote: How presumptuous of you to say so. Has the gentoo-user group become the resource of last-resort? Has gentoo-user become restricted, to be used only when all other avenues of exploration have been exhausted? If that is so, then shame on

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 24 October 2009 23:51:05 Dave Jones wrote: I'm sorry you found my answer less than informative and perhaps even somewhat insulting, obviously I worded it incorrectly. But you see, your aw gawd, an 'RTFM' answer... is the identical reaction to my original aw gawd, a 'do my

[gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-23 Thread Dave Jones
Hi Ran an eix-sync followed by an emerge -puDNv world. It reported that my 'profile' was no longer supported, and suggested switching to the 'default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop', which I did. Retried the emerge -puDNv world, with the following result: emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 24 October 2009 01:25:44 Dave Jones wrote: Hi Ran an eix-sync followed by an emerge -puDNv world. It reported that my 'profile' was no longer supported, and suggested switching to the 'default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop', which I did. Retried the emerge -puDNv world, with the

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-23 Thread Dave Jones
Alan McKinnon wrote on 24/10/09 01:39: On Saturday 24 October 2009 01:25:44 Dave Jones wrote: Ran an eix-sync followed by an emerge -puDNv world. It reported that my 'profile' was no longer supported, and suggested switching to the 'default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop', which I did. Retried the

Re: [gentoo-user] Has MySQL become compulsory?

2009-10-23 Thread waltdnes
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 02:02:16AM +0200, Dave Jones wrote My question concerns an apparent new requirement for mysql. Your asides about xorg-1.6, libxcb, dbus/hal do not seem to be relevant in any way. Any (helpful) takers out there? It looks like yes, MySql is compulsory now. See...