On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 18:31 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:
If I get it right ``fix_libtool_files.sh'' corrects the settings for
libtool according to the native compiler if gcc has changed. During a
native install there isn't an older version of gcc. So this should be
(and was) the wrong
what have you been smoking Neil? A stage 3 install just means you have
a biggish tarball at the start and it installs a very basic working
system ready to comile on. You still do your own kernel and you can
EITHER use GRP packages OR compile them yourself.
I know, but the quote you
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:53:04 +0200
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
I installed successfully half a douzend gentoo boxes (1.0, 1.1, 1.1a, 1.4,
2004) and never were there any --emptytree
And before sending my mails I looked into the handbook: no emptytree.
It is not my fault, that there
On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 18:38 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 08:33, Nick Rout wrote:
On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 23:03 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Saturday 10 September 2005 20:09, Frank Schafer wrote:
... or which distribution to install during less
On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 19:12 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 18:58, Mark Shields wrote:
From http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6:
// start quote
Building the System
To start building the system, execute emerge
On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 23:01 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:16:23 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
No, Neil, this thread (or the original issue, at least), is occurring
during the initial install process:
Whoops, my mistake. This comes up so often it's easy to get the
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:49:52 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
No, but they are on the GRP package CDs that accompany each
release.
yes, but there's no requirement to use grp packages with a stage-3.
There is if you're using stage 3 as quoted above.
what have you been smoking Neil? A
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:59:14 -0500, John Jolet wrote:
yes, but there's no requirement to use grp packages with a stage-3.
There is if you're using stage 3 as quoted above.
No, there isn't. This laptop was built with a stage 3 tarball,
everything else was compiled from source. I know
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:11:21 +0200, Frank Schafer wrote:
Hasn't this already been covered early in the thread? Run
fix_libtool.sh to fix the error then do emerge --resume to carry on.
If I get it right ``fix_libtool_files.sh'' corrects the settings for
libtool according to the native
On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 08:33 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
If I get it right ``fix_libtool_files.sh'' corrects the settings for
libtool according to the native compiler if gcc has changed. During a
native install there isn't an older version of gcc. So this should be
(and was) the wrong
Am Montag, 12. September 2005 08:56 schrieb Frank Schafer:
On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 18:38 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
And in the 2005.1 handbook is no (!) --emptytree.
LOL, LOL, LOL!!
this is cut'n-pasted from the Gentoo Handbook 6d JUST NOW
The 2005.1 Handbook, which Volker
On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 11:12 +0200, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
Am Montag, 12. September 2005 08:56 schrieb Frank Schafer:
On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 18:38 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
And in the 2005.1 handbook is no (!) --emptytree.
LOL, LOL, LOL!!
this is cut'n-pasted from the
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:33:20 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
I imagine he read the install instructions, which are pretty clear about
doing an
emerge --emptytree system
What makes you think this is wrong?
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6#doc_chap2
This is
Hi,
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 20:09:29 +0200
Frank Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When I returned home from work I found in the logs, that ``emerge
--emptytree system'' failed at package 28 of 186
python-fcksum-1.7.1
i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc bla...bla
^
|
+- !
On Sunday 11 September 2005 08:33, Nick Rout wrote:
On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 23:03 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Saturday 10 September 2005 20:09, Frank Schafer wrote:
... or which distribution to install during less than 4 days?
Hi list,
as I wrote yesterday I planned to
From http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6:
// start quote
Building the System
To start building the system, execute emerge --emptytree system. Then
go do something to keep your mind busy, because this step takes a
long time to complete.
Code Listing 22:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 18:58, Mark Shields wrote:
From http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6:
// start quote
Building the System
To start building the system, execute emerge --emptytree system. Then
go do something to keep your mind busy, because this
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:58:19 -0400, Mark Shields wrote:
// start quote
Building the System
To start building the system, execute emerge --emptytree system.
// end quote
So you see, it does tell you to do an emerge --emptytree system,
When BUILDING THE SYSTEM. This thread was all
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 18:58, Mark Shields wrote:
From http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6:
[snip]
So you see, it does tell you to do an emerge --emptytree system,
unless you haven't changed the defalt CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS, in which
Note that the 2005.1 handbook mentions only the stage3 and not stage1 or
stage2. Installation from the lower stages is more error prone and best
avoided.
Hardly. Starting from a stage 3 is like starting from any old binary
distribution.
Starting from stage 1 2 allows you to build a box
Dave Nebinger wrote:
Note that the 2005.1 handbook mentions only the stage3 and not stage1
or stage2. Installation from the lower stages is more error prone and
best avoided.
Hardly. Starting from a stage 3 is like starting from any old binary
distribution.
Starting from stage 1 2
A stage3 install has most of the benefits of a stage1 or stage2. Portage
gives you the ability to rebuild *every* single package if you choose.
And like the binary distributions, it's targeted towards the generic 386,
not the pentium class machines we're all using (at least it was the last
On Sunday 11 September 2005 13:12, Dave Nebinger wrote:
Note that the 2005.1 handbook mentions only the stage3 and not stage1 or
stage2. Installation from the lower stages is more error prone and best
avoided.
Hardly. Starting from a stage 3 is like starting from any old binary
Neil Bothwick schreef:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:58:19 -0400, Mark Shields wrote:
// start quote
Building the System
To start building the system, execute emerge --emptytree system. //
end quote
So you see, it does tell you to do an emerge --emptytree system,
When BUILDING THE
Starting from stage 1 2 allows you to build a box customized from the
ground up optimized for your hardware (assuming you've set the cflags
correctly before beginning).
IMHO, stage 3 is for those that don't want to take the lengthy build time
for some of the larger packages, i.e. X and
Dave Nebinger wrote:
A stage3 install has most of the benefits of a stage1 or stage2.
Portage gives you the ability to rebuild *every* single package if you
choose.
And like the binary distributions, it's targeted towards the generic
386, not the pentium class machines we're all using
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:30:45 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:
And if you use a stage 3 and rebuild every package, it's not that
different than starting from a stage 1 or 2, is it?
There's one major difference, the system is available for use in around
an hour. Rebuilding after the system is working
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:15:46 -0500, John Jolet wrote:
IMHO, stage 3 is for those that don't want to take the lengthy build
time for some of the larger packages, i.e. X and kde/gnome, in order
to have a basic working gentoo system in a short timeframe.
I'm not sure where you get this from,
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:16:23 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
No, Neil, this thread (or the original issue, at least), is occurring
during the initial install process:
Whoops, my mistake. This comes up so often it's easy to get the threads
muddled up :(
So possibly we might consider using our
On Sunday 11 September 2005 16:57, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 14:15:46 -0500, John Jolet wrote:
IMHO, stage 3 is for those that don't want to take the lengthy build
time for some of the larger packages, i.e. X and kde/gnome, in order
to have a basic working gentoo system in
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:12:51 +0200
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 18:58, Mark Shields wrote:
From http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6:
// start quote
Building the System
To start building the system, execute emerge
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 00:15:58 +0100
Neil Bothwick wrote:
No, but they are on the GRP package CDs that accompany each release.
yes, but there's no requirement to use grp packages with a stage-3.
There is if you're using stage 3 as quoted above.
what have you been smoking Neil? A stage 3
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:45:26 +0100
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:58:19 -0400, Mark Shields wrote:
// start quote
Building the System
To start building the system, execute emerge --emptytree system.
// end quote
So you see, it does tell you to do an emerge
On Sunday 11 September 2005 18:15, Neil Bothwick wrote:
yes, but there's no requirement to use grp packages with a stage-3.
There is if you're using stage 3 as quoted above.
No, there isn't. This laptop was built with a stage 3 tarball, everything
else was compiled from source. I know
... or which distribution to install during less than 4 days?
Hi list,
as I wrote yesterday I planned to complete installation after work
(started ``emerge --emptytree system'' in the morning).
When I returned home from work I found in the logs, that ``emerge
--emptytree system'' failed at
When I returned home from work I found in the logs, that ``emerge
--emptytree system'' failed at package 28 of 186
python-fcksum-1.7.1
i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc bla...bla
^
|
+- !
gcc-config error:
could not run/locate i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
My guess is that during the
On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 14:37 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:
When I returned home from work I found in the logs, that ``emerge
--emptytree system'' failed at package 28 of 186
python-fcksum-1.7.1
i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc bla...bla
^
|
+- !
gcc-config error:
If you don't have the time to watch over the stage 1 build process, you
can jump straight to a stage 3 then update packages from there.
Well, that's the same ads installing Fedora (within 2 hours).
With respect, that is NOT the same as installing fedora. This laptop has had
fedora, suse,
On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 14:26 -0500, John Jolet wrote:
If you don't have the time to watch over the stage 1 build process, you
can jump straight to a stage 3 then update packages from there.
Well, that's the same ads installing Fedora (within 2 hours).
With respect, that is NOT the same
I don't get You at this point. I'll have to start ''emerge --emptytree
system'', wait until it crashes, run ''fix_libtool_files.sh'' and run
''emerge --emptytree system'' ones more, hoping that it won't crash this
time?
No, after the fix_libtool_files.sh run, you do the emerge --resume to have
On 9/10/05, Frank Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... or which distribution to install during less than 4 days?
Hi list,
as I wrote yesterday I planned to complete installation after work
(started ``emerge --emptytree system'' in the morning).
When I returned home from work I found in
On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 12:42 -0700, Justin Patrin wrote:
On 9/10/05, Frank Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... or which distribution to install during less than 4 days?
Hi list,
as I wrote yesterday I planned to complete installation after work
(started ``emerge --emptytree system''
On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 15:39 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:
I don't get You at this point. I'll have to start ''emerge --emptytree
system'', wait until it crashes, run ''fix_libtool_files.sh'' and run
''emerge --emptytree system'' ones more, hoping that it won't crash this
time?
No, after
On Fri, 01 Jan 1988 00:18:00 +0100, Frank Schafer wrote:
The good news is that you'll only need to do this during the
beginning when the system is being built from scratch; once you're up
and running you normally won't need to do this again.
I don't get You at this point. I'll have to
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:37:22 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:
If you don't have the time to watch over the stage 1 build process, you
can jump straight to a stage 3 then update packages from there.
That's exactly what I did with my laptop. It arrived at 1pm and I needed
it fully functional for the
On Saturday 10 September 2005 20:09, Frank Schafer wrote:
... or which distribution to install during less than 4 days?
Hi list,
as I wrote yesterday I planned to complete installation after work
(started ``emerge --emptytree system'' in the morning).
where did you get the idea that
Frank Schafer wrote:
is better than Gentoo just now, ... because it's installable.
I'd recommend a stage3 install. The lower stages are intended more as a means
to create a stage3 than for anything else.
Zac
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