Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-15 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 22:09:34 -0500, »Q« wrote: I don't want to advocate for *-. I don't recommend it to anybody. I don't particularly want to argue about how good/bad/ugly it is with anybody, but it's it's tough not to argue when people are telling me I'm causing myself problems and I'm not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 22:51:58 -0500, »Q« wrote: How can I find out whether the profile is setting those variables? By removing USE=-*. At the moment it doesn't matter which profile you use or what it sets as you are then telling portage to ignore all its settings, even the critical

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-14 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 14 Apr 2015 08:47:01 +0100 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 22:51:58 -0500, »Q« wrote: How can I find out whether the profile is setting those variables? By removing USE=-*. At the moment it doesn't matter which profile you use or what

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-13 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:52:07 -0400 Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On 04/12/2015 09:38 PM, »Q« wrote: How can I find out whether the profile is setting those variables? ISTM the emerge errors I posted earlier, which happen if I get rid of those variables in make.conf,

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-13 Thread »Q«
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 07:48:25 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/04/2015 03:07, »Q« wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:35:07 +0300 Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi wrote: On Apr 12, 2015, at 20:23, »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:12:38 +0200 J.

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-13 Thread »Q«
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:51:57 +0100 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:38:17 -0500, »Q« wrote: It's not a bad idea to manage the PYTHON_TARGETS, PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET, and RUBY_TARGET variables if you *need* a specific version of python or ruby. If you do

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-13 Thread »Q«
On Mon, 13 Apr 2015 07:52:54 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 13/04/2015 03:38, »Q« wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:24:48 -0400 Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: Also, using the KDE profile and having USE=-* seem contrary. One of the main reasons to use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 20:38:17 -0500, »Q« wrote: It's not a bad idea to manage the PYTHON_TARGETS, PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET, and RUBY_TARGET variables if you *need* a specific version of python or ruby. If you do not, I would say it is bad. These are set in the profile so that the maintainers

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:07:20 +0200 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Sunday, April 12, 2015 12:23:56 PM »Q« wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:12:38 +0200 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Saturday, April 11, 2015 08:42:20 PM Alan Grimes wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 04/12/2015 09:15 PM, »Q« wrote: Before you pore through it, I guess I should point out that it's not causing me any problems -- I was just curious about why it would be a bad idea for me to manage those PYTHON_* variables myself. I guess the most notable thing about my make.conf is that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 04/12/2015 09:38 PM, »Q« wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:24:48 -0400 Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On 04/12/2015 09:15 PM, »Q« wrote: Before you pore through it, I guess I should point out that it's not causing me any problems -- I was just curious about why it would be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/04/2015 03:38, »Q« wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:24:48 -0400 Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On 04/12/2015 09:15 PM, »Q« wrote: Before you pore through it, I guess I should point out that it's not causing me any problems -- I was just curious about why it would be a

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:35:07 +0300 Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi wrote: On Apr 12, 2015, at 20:23, »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:12:38 +0200 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Saturday, April 11, 2015 08:42:20 PM Alan Grimes wrote:

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:24:48 -0400 Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: On 04/12/2015 09:15 PM, »Q« wrote: Before you pore through it, I guess I should point out that it's not causing me any problems -- I was just curious about why it would be a bad idea for me to manage those

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 13/04/2015 03:07, »Q« wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 21:35:07 +0300 Matti Nykyri matti.nyk...@iki.fi wrote: On Apr 12, 2015, at 20:23, »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:12:38 +0200 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Saturday, April 11, 2015 08:42:20 PM Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday, April 12, 2015 12:23:56 PM »Q« wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:12:38 +0200 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Saturday, April 11, 2015 08:42:20 PM Alan Grimes wrote: PYTHON_TARGETS=${PYTHON_TARGETS} python2_7 python3_4 PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 These are set

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread »Q«
On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:12:38 +0200 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Saturday, April 11, 2015 08:42:20 PM Alan Grimes wrote: PYTHON_TARGETS=${PYTHON_TARGETS} python2_7 python3_4 PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 These are set in your profile, please do not override this. In other

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-12 Thread Matti Nykyri
On Apr 12, 2015, at 20:23, »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote: On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:12:38 +0200 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Saturday, April 11, 2015 08:42:20 PM Alan Grimes wrote: PYTHON_TARGETS=${PYTHON_TARGETS} python2_7 python3_4 PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 These are

[gentoo-user] Re: Machine completely broken; Ncursed!

2015-04-11 Thread walt
On 04/11/2015 05:42 PM, Alan Grimes wrote: Byte me. Linux is crap, it takes all the talent I have to keep this piece of junk running. I'll see your grumpy, and raise you two grumpies :p