[gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-10 Thread james
Fernando Rodriguez outlook.com> writes: > > albeit in it's infancy. Naturally it's going to take a while to > > become mainstream useful; but that more like a year or 2, at most. > > The value I see on that technology for desktop computing is that we get the > GPUs for what they're made

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:20 AM, james wrote: > I think most folks when purchasing a workstation include a graphics > card on the list of items to include. So my suggestions where geared > towards informing folks about some of the new features of gcc that > may intice

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-10 Thread Gevisz
On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 12:20:39 + (UTC) james wrote: > Fernando Rodriguez outlook.com> writes: > > > > albeit in it's infancy. Naturally it's going to take a while to > > > become mainstream useful; but that more like a year or 2, at most. > > > > The value I see

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-10 Thread Gevisz
On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 21:12:37 + (UTC) james wrote: > Gevisz gmail.com> writes: > > > on-board video card. Just to avoid extra heating and aircraft noise > > produced by R4770. > > Fanless video cards are wonderful. I have had many over the years but this > one is

[gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-10 Thread james
Gevisz gmail.com> writes: > on-board video card. Just to avoid extra heating and aircraft noise > produced by R4770. Fanless video cards are wonderful. I have had many over the years but this one is still my (silent) favorite:: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-10 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Wednesday, September 09, 2015 9:52:55 PM james wrote: > Jeremi Piotrowski gmail.com> writes: > > > No, and yes. Compilation is not affected in any way and runtime > > performance can only be improved _if_ this stuff is explicitly used within > > the code. > > Yes this is all new and a work

[gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-09 Thread james
Jeremi Piotrowski gmail.com> writes: > > AFAI understand gcc-5 should compile faster? > > And generate faster code in some cases? > No, and yes. Compilation is not affected in any way and runtime > performance can only be improved _if_ this stuff is explicitly used within > the code.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-09 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
On 09.09.2015 21:35, Jeremi Piotrowski wrote: > tldr: don't buy a dedicated gpu just because you read something on a > mailing list ;) yep :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-09 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
On 09.09.2015 20:01, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Digging up that thread now somewhere ... Ah, I even participated then ;-) AFAI understand gcc-5 should compile faster? And generate faster code in some cases? looking at genlop -t I can't really spot speedups in the last months. With gcc-5.2.0

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-09 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2015-09-09 um 04:20 schrieb James: I have posted several links on the subject previously [1]; here's one [2]. [..] If you can afford it, get a mobo that supports DDR-4. Right now the AMD-HBM Fury-X is the video card with the highest bandwidth for a memory buss on a video card, if you can

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-09 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 09 Sep 2015 19:01:24 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 2015-09-09 um 04:20 schrieb James: > > I have posted several links on the subject previously [1]; here's one > > [2]. > > [..] > > > If you can afford it, get a mobo that supports DDR-4. > > Right now the AMD-HBM Fury-X is the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-09 Thread Jeremi Piotrowski
On Wed, 9 Sep 2015, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > On 09.09.2015 20:01, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Digging up that thread now somewhere ... > > Ah, I even participated then ;-) > > AFAI understand gcc-5 should compile faster? > And generate faster code in some cases? No, and yes. Compilation

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/09/2015 20:01, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 2015-09-09 um 04:20 schrieb James: > >> I have posted several links on the subject previously [1]; here's one >> [2]. > > [..] > >> If you can afford it, get a mobo that supports DDR-4. >> Right now the AMD-HBM Fury-X is the video card with

[gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-09 Thread james
Jeremi Piotrowski gmail.com> writes: > No, and yes. Compilation is not affected in any way and runtime > performance can only be improved _if_ this stuff is explicitly used within > the code. Yes this is all new and a work in progress. I do not think it will be gcc-6 that makes the difference

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2015-09-08 um 17:32 schrieb James: > So I'm not really pushing any sort of hardware. But things are changing > with gcc-5.x could you detail this a bit? Does it need less RAM or what? I also consider getting a new system later this year, maybe a core-i7-6xxx or so ...

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-08 Thread Francisco Ares
2015-09-08 12:51 GMT-03:00 Stefan G. Weichinger : > Am 2015-09-08 um 17:32 schrieb James: > > > So I'm not really pushing any sort of hardware. But things are changing > > with gcc-5.x > > could you detail this a bit? > Does it need less RAM or what? > > I also consider getting a

[gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-08 Thread James
Stefan G. Weichinger xunil.at> writes: > > So I'm not really pushing any sort of hardware. But things are changing > > with gcc-5.x I have posted several links on the subject previously [1]; here's one [2]. Basically several projects and the codes got pulled into GCC-5, where the GPU

[gentoo-user] Re: new computer : any advice ?

2015-09-08 Thread James
Philip Webb ca.inter.net> writes: > Since my AMD machines have been more successful than the Intels, > I intend to use an AMD CPU again & anyway they seem to be > cheaper & faster. Gigabyte mobos are cheaper & it has been good in ANB4. I built some FX-8350 system on Gigabyte mobo (990-FXA)