Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-20 Thread Chris Walters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 1/20/2012 02:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 01:22:50PM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: On 1/19/2012 11:32 AM, Chris Walters wrote: This is a test. Enigmail has been trying to use a revoked and expired key to sign my

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-20 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Thursday, January 19, 2012, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have mine set up to sign them all. I did a couple to see if it worked or not. Whenever I sign a message, it asks for the password. It is quite a long password and I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2012-01-19 5:42 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There's no known way to decrypt a mail like that without the single private key needed (this works exactly like https traffic to your bank). I feel very confident saying no known way as cracking that puzzle has been the Holy

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Chris Walters
On 1/19/2012 01:44 AM, v...@ukr.net wrote: Hello! From what I know for sure, many people in different countries supported the opposition to these bills because they understand that this is not just a US problem. If it happens there, it can easily be repeated anywhere. And the point of

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Chris Walters
On 1/19/2012 01:27 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Humanity starts things and continues things. This is good. Governments stop things. This is only sometimes good. Agreed. Chris --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 120118-1, 01/18/2012 Tested on: 1/19/2012 5:30:31

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Yohan Pereira
On Thursday 19 Jan 2012 08:27:20 Alan McKinnon wrote: Humanity starts things and continues things. This is good. Governments stop things. This is only sometimes good im fairly certain it was humanity that started this whole goverment thing. -- - Yohan Pereira

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:11:24 +0530 Yohan Pereira yohan.pere...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 19 Jan 2012 08:27:20 Alan McKinnon wrote: Humanity starts things and continues things. This is good. Governments stop things. This is only sometimes good im fairly certain it was humanity that

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Chris Walters
On 1/19/2012 05:41 AM, Yohan Pereira wrote: im fairly certain it was humanity that started this whole goverment thing. True. Once started, though, governments tend to evolve on their own - I am pretty certain that most government officials are from another planet. Besides, isn't it up to

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:03:29 -0500 Chris Walters cjw20...@comcast.net wrote: On 1/19/2012 05:41 AM, Yohan Pereira wrote: im fairly certain it was humanity that started this whole goverment thing. True. Once started, though, governments tend to evolve on their own - I am pretty certain

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout. Fixing.

2012-01-19 Thread Chris Walters
On 1/19/2012 06:58 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: If by fix you mean wage war on and shoot, then yes :-) It seems like that is the only method humanity uses to fix it's governments that go toxic - witness the last year's events in that part of the world that has lots of desert By fix I mean

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Chris Walters
On 1/19/2012 05:29 AM, Chris Walters wrote: On 1/19/2012 01:44 AM, v...@ukr.net wrote: Hello! From what I know for sure, many people in different countries supported the opposition to these bills because they understand that this is not just a US problem. If it happens there, it can

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: While on this subject, sort of. Who on here as their email set up to encrypt and decrypt emails? I want to test some things OFF LIST. Well, if you had signed your mail, then I could write you encrypted. :) -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' I

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Chris Walters
On 1/19/2012 11:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: While on this subject, sort of. Who on here as their email set up to encrypt and decrypt emails? I want to test some things OFF LIST. Well, if you had signed your mail, then I could

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On 1/19/2012 11:32 AM, Chris Walters wrote: On 1/19/2012 11:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: While on this subject, sort of. Who on here as their email set up to encrypt and decrypt emails? I want to test some things OFF LIST. Well, if

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Dale
Chris Walters wrote: On 1/19/2012 11:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: While on this subject, sort of. Who on here as their email set up to encrypt and decrypt emails? I want to test some things OFF LIST. Well, if you had signed your

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Chris Walters wrote: On 1/19/2012 11:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: While on this subject, sort of.  Who on here as their email set up to encrypt and decrypt emails?  I

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:04:11 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Chris Walters wrote: On 1/19/2012 11:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: While on this subject, sort of. Who on here as their email set up to encrypt and decrypt

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Chris Walters
On 1/19/2012 05:04 PM, Dale wrote: Chris Walters wrote: This is a test. Enigmail has been trying to use a revoked and expired key to sign my messages, lately. Chris I have a question now. I got a message from Paul Hartman and replied to it, off list, and it was encrypted and I hope

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Chris Walters wrote: This is a test. Enigmail has been trying to use a revoked and expired key to sign my messages, lately. Chris I have a question now. I got a message from Paul Hartman and replied to it, off list,

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 00:42:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: There's no known way to decrypt a mail like that without the single private key needed (this works exactly like https traffic to your bank). I feel very confident saying no known way as cracking that puzzle has been the Holy Grail of

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: There are basically 2 things PGP/GPG normally does for emails: signing and encrypting. They are not mutually exclusive. Signing (like you see on a lot of messages on this list, for example) is about the person who SENT the message. It lets you verify that the person

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Mick
On Thursday 19 Jan 2012 22:44:12 Chris Walters wrote: On 1/19/2012 05:04 PM, Dale wrote: I have a question now. I got a message from Paul Hartman and replied to it, off list, and it was encrypted and I hope my reply was too. My question is this. How do you make a email that only the

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:04:11 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Chris Walters wrote: On 1/19/2012 11:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: While on this subject, sort of. Who on here as their email set up to

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Dale
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Walters wrote: On 1/19/2012 05:04 PM, Dale wrote: Chris Walters wrote: This is a test. Enigmail has been trying to use a revoked and expired key to sign my messages, lately. Chris I have a question now. I got a message from

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mud is clearing up a bit. Excellent! Lookin good! Dale :-) :-) - -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Dale
Matthew Finkel wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mud is clearing up a bit. Excellent! Lookin good! Well, I get this on top of your message: Error - No valid armored OpenPGP data block found What's wrong with

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Mick
On Thursday 19 Jan 2012 23:20:44 Dale wrote: Chris Walters wrote: I'm starting to see this now. When I sign a message, it is public but people are assured that it came from me. Sort of like having a check with a picture ID that matches. :/ Better than that. Readers (all that have access

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Matthew Finkel
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Matthew Finkel wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mud is clearing up a bit. Excellent! Lookin good! Well, I get this on top of your message:

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Thursday 19 Jan 2012 23:20:44 Dale wrote: Chris Walters wrote: I'm starting to see this now. When I sign a message, it is public but people are assured that it came from me. Sort of like having a check with a picture ID that matches. :/ Better than that. Readers (all

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thursday, January 19, 2012, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have mine set up to sign them all. I did a couple to see if it worked or not. Whenever I sign a message, it asks for the password. It is quite a long password and I don't want to type it in every time I send something.

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 01:22:50PM -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: On 1/19/2012 11:32 AM, Chris Walters wrote: On 1/19/2012 11:57 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:53:07AM -0600, Dale wrote: While on this subject, sort of. Who on here as their email set up to encrypt

[gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-18 Thread Chris Walters
I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was opensuse.org . These laws, as I understand them, and I am no lawyer, could be used against open source kernels, operating system tools, and other open source

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-18 Thread Dale
Chris Walters wrote: I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was opensuse.org . These laws, as I understand them, and I am no lawyer, could be used against open source kernels, operating system tools, and

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-18 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 07:21:12PM -0600, Dale wrote: I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was opensuse.org . […] I bypassed the wiki black out. I used adblock to disable the part that blacks

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-18 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 07:21:12PM -0600, Dale wrote: I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was opensuse.org . […] I bypassed the wiki black out. I used adblock to disable the

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-18 Thread Chris Walters
On 1/18/2012 08:21 PM, Dale wrote: I don't like the law and honestly I don't like 99% of the laws they even think about much less pass. Trust me, I let my Rep know several times that I oppose both of them and even got a phone call today from one of them. I also pointed out that no law we

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-18 Thread Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike)
El 19/01/12 00:55, Chris Walters escribió: I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was opensuse.org . Some of us did support the movement on our ways, for example the Gentoo Hardened team didn't twit the

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-18 Thread Dale
Chris Walters wrote: On 1/18/2012 08:21 PM, Dale wrote: I don't like the law and honestly I don't like 99% of the laws they even think about much less pass. Trust me, I let my Rep know several times that I oppose both of them and even got a phone call today from one of them. I also pointed

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:08:42 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 07:21:12PM -0600, Dale wrote: I am truly surprised that Gentoo, and more GNU/Linux and *BSD sites did not join in the 'blackout'. The only one I saw that did was

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-18 Thread v_2e
Hello! On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:21:12 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: ... I also pointed out that no law we pass here affects the people overseas. Last I heard, when you got a few miles off shore, our laws pretty much end. The people in other countries are going to hack and steal

Re: [gentoo-user] S.O.P.A and P.I.P.A and the blackout.

2012-01-18 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:08:42 -0600 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Here's to hoping Governments learn they can't regulate thought or stupidity. Humanity starts things and continues things. This is good. Governments stop things. This is only sometimes good.