Re: Clock synchronization from dialup?

2002-07-14 Thread Michael O'Donnell



It seems to me that if you put a line like this in
your /etc/network/interfaces in the section associated
with your PPP connection you could sync your system
time whenever you brought the interface up:

   up /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart || true

This does not address the issue of having that system
also serve NTP to your other machines, which might
get interesting if your server is frequently out of
touch with the outside world...


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Re: Clock synchronization from dialup?

2002-07-14 Thread Derek D. Martin

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At some point hitherto, Mark Polhamus hath spake thusly:
> Has anyone come across clear, concise instructions for synchronizing
> my clock to a network time server?  I need instructions that will
> work for a system that connects to the internet using dial-up (i.e.
> is often NOT connected).  It is never connected to the internet at
> startup, and is restarted frequently.

This scenario makes maintaining synchronization difficult.  ntpd seems
to expect that you will be connected permanently, and in my experience
if it can't contact its time servers for some period of time, it will
die.  You could keep the clock mostly pretty up-to-date by using
ntpdate in your connection script, and then using the hwclock command
to set the hardware clock to the new time.  You could also do this in
a script run periodically by cron.  In that case, the synchronization
would fail whenever you're not connected, but as long as the machine
is up and connected so that it runs successfully once or twice a day,
your clock should be kept pretty accurate.

> I assume ntp will do this for me if I configure it correctly, and I
> would prefer to use ntp because I have virtual machines that I would
> like to synchronize to the host machine.

I assume you mean something like VMWare running on the same machine?
If you should happen to have other machines on your network which are
always connected to the Internet somehow, then a much better option
would be for you to run ntpd on one of those hosts, and synchronize
against that.  May not be an option for you though.

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Re: Clock synchronization from dialup?

2002-07-14 Thread Jerry Feldman

Although I am on 24x7, ntp can be used for dialup. 
These are the two lines I added.
server 158.121.104.4 # timeserver.cs.umb.edu
server 140.239.10.5 # ntp.ourconcord.net

However, you might just want to use ntpdate. ntp runs as a daemon where 
ntpdate is not. You can write a cron script that tests if you are online. 
If so, execute ntpdate (as root) to synchronize your clock. Or you could 
set up a script around your PPP program to execute ntpdate when you log on.

Mark Polhamus wrote:
> Has anyone come across clear, concise instructions for synchronizing my clock
>  
> to a network time server?  I need instructions that will work for a system 
> that connects to the internet using dial-up (i.e. is often NOT connected).
> It is never connected to the internet at startup, and is restarted frequently
> .
> 
> I assume ntp will do this for me if I configure it correctly, and I would 
> prefer to use ntp because I have virtual machines that I would like to 
> synchronize to the host machine.
> 
> I'm having a hard time hacking through the thicket of ntp documentation -- it
>  
> seems to be written for a someone who has a doctorate level interest in the 
> absolute limits of network time sync accuracy (even the "executive overview" 
> includes some equations!).  There are a huge number of configuration options 
> for this package.
> 
> Some example ntp.conf files would be nice.  I would also appreciate 
> debugging/logging hints, and even an idea of how to tell if my setup is worki
> ng.
> 
> (ntp 4.1.1-1 on RedHat 7.3)
> 
> Chrony also sounded promising, but it doesn't compile on 7.3:
> 
>  >gcc -Wmissing-prototypes -Wall -O2 -g  -DLINUX -DHAS_SPINLOCK_H -c 
> wrap_adjtimex.c
>  >In file included from /usr/include/linux/timex.h:152,
>  > from wrap_adjtimex.c:40:
>  >/usr/include/asm/timex.h:10:21: asm/msr.h: No such file or directory
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> -- Mark Polhamus
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