Re: GNOME Shell Extensions 3.34.0

2019-09-11 Thread Marcel via gnome-shell-list

Doesn't it more depend on the distribution one uses? I mean, when gnome is 
released it takes a while for Debian to put it in the stable release. And even 
when using the unstable release, it will take some time. And when finally all 
packages are there, I personally never had problems. That being said, if 
someone uses distributions like Arch, then I think it is not much work to use 
extensions as fresh as they are directly from the developers repository. 
extensions.gnome.org is in my respect similar to the stable release from Gnome. 
It takes time to make sure everything has been reviewed.

Cheers,
Marcel

On 9/10/19 9:50 PM, Jason DeRose wrote:

As an extension developer, I don't think it's necessarily fair to burden the 
GNOME team with building a wrapper API and maintaining backwards compatibility 
forever. Even if this did come to fruition, it would likely end up too narrow 
in scope to give extensions the flexibility they enjoy now by being able to 
override basically any behavior in the shell.

That said, it is extremely frustrating that there is no possible way to fix and 
release an extension on extensions.gnome.org before a new GNOME release occurs. 
Breaking changes are made literally up until the Release Candidate is 
generated, and the extension review queue may sit untouched for months (which 
is a major problem itself). A week or two should be built into the timeline for 
extension developers to release an updated version to e.g.o., and then the 
extension review queue should be cleared before the new version is released.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Leslie S Satenstein via gnome-shell-list 
wrote:

Sadly, from one Gnome version or subversion to another, with each change, the majority of 
extensions are broken, and *"Florian Müllner", *that includes the ones you 
wrote. Many people are abandoning Gnome, simply because their favorite extensions no 
longer work.

I have a deep appreciation of the application development process and the QA 
that is needed. May I propose or suggest that there be an a new standardized 
interface for gnome extensions, an extension api, which will be responsible 
backend for the interfacing to the various gnome versions? This api to be 
providing a consistent interface for extension developers. My two favourite 
broken extensions are your menu extension and the Taskbar extension which works 
partially with Tumbleweed, fully with Centos, and not at all with recent 
Fedora's version 30 or any Linux Distribution using a Gnome version beyond 3.32.

Regards
*
  Leslie*
*Leslie Satenstein***
*Montréal Québec, Canada*






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Re: GNOME Shell Extensions 3.34.0

2019-09-10 Thread Jason DeRose
As an extension developer, I don't think it's necessarily fair to burden the 
GNOME team with building a wrapper API and maintaining backwards compatibility 
forever. Even if this did come to fruition, it would likely end up too narrow 
in scope to give extensions the flexibility they enjoy now by being able to 
override basically any behavior in the shell.

That said, it is extremely frustrating that there is no possible way to fix and 
release an extension on extensions.gnome.org before a new GNOME release occurs. 
Breaking changes are made literally up until the Release Candidate is 
generated, and the extension review queue may sit untouched for months (which 
is a major problem itself). A week or two should be built into the timeline for 
extension developers to release an updated version to e.g.o., and then the 
extension review queue should be cleared before the new version is released.


On Tue, Sep 10, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Leslie S Satenstein via gnome-shell-list 
wrote:
> Sadly, from one Gnome version or subversion to another, with each change, the 
> majority of extensions are broken, and *"Florian Müllner", *that includes the 
> ones you wrote. Many people are abandoning Gnome, simply because their 
> favorite extensions no longer work. 
> 
> I have a deep appreciation of the application development process and the QA 
> that is needed. May I propose or suggest that there be an a new standardized 
> interface for gnome extensions, an extension api, which will be responsible 
> backend for the interfacing to the various gnome versions? This api to be 
> providing a consistent interface for extension developers. My two favourite 
> broken extensions are your menu extension and the Taskbar extension which 
> works partially with Tumbleweed, fully with Centos, and not at all with 
> recent Fedora's version 30 or any Linux Distribution using a Gnome version 
> beyond 3.32. 
> 
> Regards 
> *
>  Leslie*
> *Leslie Satenstein***
> *Montréal Québec, Canada*
> 
> 
> 
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Re: GNOME Shell Extensions 3.34.0

2019-09-10 Thread Leslie S Satenstein via gnome-shell-list
Sadly, from one Gnome version or subversion to another, with each change, the 
majority of extensions are broken, and  "Florian Müllner",   that includes the 
ones you wrote. Many people are abandoning Gnome, simply because their favorite 
extensions no longer work. 

I have a deep appreciation of the application development process and the QA 
that is needed. May I propose or suggest that there be an a new standardized 
interface for gnome extensions, an extension api, which will be responsible 
backend for the interfacing to the various gnome versions?  This api to  be 
providing a consistent interface for extension developers. My two favourite 
broken extensions are your menu extension and the Taskbar extension which works 
partially with Tumbleweed, fully with Centos, and not at all with recent 
Fedora's version 30  or any Linux Distribution using a Gnome version beyond 
3.32. 

Regards 
 Leslie
 Leslie Satenstein
Montréal Québec, Canada

 

On Monday, September 9, 2019, 3:46:02 p.m. GMT-4, Florian Müllner 
 wrote:  
 
 About gnome-shell-extensions


GNOME Shell Extensions is a collection of extensions providing
additional and optional functionality to GNOME Shell. Most extensions
can be installed by configuring --prefix=$HOME/.local, and will be
picked automatically at next login.

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  Sabri Ünal [tr]



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