Re: GNU/Linux Activation Technologies - You joke, but it's a reality now. GrSecurity is doing JUST THAT.

2019-11-09 Thread nipponmail
You joke, but GrSecurity is selling licenses for it's kernel patch for 
$10,000, and does per-seat licensing. It prevents redistribution of it's 
derivative work via an "access agreement" where-in the licensee promises 
not to redistribute the derivative work, or else suffer a forfeiture of 
his remaining balance, as well as suffer a penalty of recieving no 
furthur versions (which he allready paid for).


So: yes: it is allready happening.
It's not a joke anymore.

Yet you here see this as "insane talk" and "yea they can do that, let's 
patch the /next version/ of the GPL to prevent it!"


No: they /cannot/ do that. Section 6 forbids additional restrictive 
terms, they have added an addional restrictive term (licensee shall no 
redistribute except to customers if required), and are enforcing said 
restrictive term with a negative covenant.



PLEASE Read: 
perens.com/2017/06/28/warning-grsecurity-potential-contributory-infringement-risk-for-customers/


And Page 10 on of this brief: 
perens.com/static/OSS_Spenger_v_Perens/0_2018cv15189/docs1/pdf/18.pdf
(which does discuss the copyright matter, even though the case is on 
another)



On 2019-11-09 20:27, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:

Alexandre François Garreau  wrote:

Le samedi 9 novembre 2019, 14:25:58 CET Richard Stallman a écrit :
You should install GNU/Linux Activation Technologies Client if you 
are running GNU/Linux.


Most distributions are already selling licenses.


I guess this is a forged, illegitimate, mail as it was sent through 
something  dealing with PHP.


Yes, of course.  Though, would consider the fact that it originates
from the Ukraine more suspicious, than usage of PHP mailer.

However might someone enlight me on what “GNU/Linux Activation 
Technologies  Client” is and how is it supposed to be installed?  Is 
it a trojan?


No, itʼs a someoneʼs joke [0].  It was already advertised in a same
manner on other gnu.org m/l a week ago or so.


Is it free? x)


| GNU Project and Linux Foundation set the following fees:
|
|   - Single GNU/Linux copy license: $99
|   - Volume license (starting from 25 copies, only for
organizations): $49 for every machine
|   - Key Server license: $999 and full license fee for every license 
sold

|
| Key Server licenses are only sold by GNU Project and Linux 
Foundation.


[0] https://notabug.org/GLAT/howtotell




Re: GNU/Linux Activation Technologies - You joke, but it's a reality now. GrSecurity is doing JUST THAT.

2019-11-09 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
[email protected] wrote:
> You joke

No, I do not take credit for this joke.  Neither I know who does.

> but GrSecurity is selling licenses for it's kernel patch for $10,000, and 
> does per-seat licensing. It prevents redistribution of it's derivative work 
> via an "access agreement" where-in the licensee promises not to redistribute 
> the derivative work, or else suffer a forfeiture of  his remaining balance, 
> as well as suffer a penalty of recieving no furthur versions (which he 
> allready paid for).
>
> So: yes: it is allready happening.  It's not a joke anymore.

Yes, itʼs quite possible that they are parodying GrSec / OSS.


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Re: GNU/Linux Activation Technologies

2019-11-09 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Alexandre François Garreau  wrote:
> Le samedi 9 novembre 2019 21:27:41 CET, vous avez écrit :
>> Yes, of course.  Though, would consider the fact that it originates from the
>> Ukraine more suspicious, than usage of PHP mailer.
>
> Knowing rms’ config: PHP mailer and Message-ID not coming from emacs (hence 
> not 
> postfixed with .fsf, etc.), as he uses emacs and won’t use the web for that,

His genuine mails seem to have Message-IDs stamped by Exim rather than by 
Emacs, actually.

> but could as well be located some place where his internet access exits at 
> some place in Ukraine (he just have to have anyone hosting him behind 
> mirohost.net): as he travels a lot, Ukraine wouldn’t be suspicious.

Okay, I perhaps chose the wrong wordings: the fact that it came to the 
listserver _straight_ from some Ukrainian server made it suspicious:

| Received: from nvs406.mirohost.net ([89.184.73.65]:19710)
| by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32)
| (Exim 4.71)
| (envelope-from )
| id 1iTQkg-0005C9-J9

Normally, the message should come from some machine related to the sender: like 
portable.galex-713.eu in your case or fencepost.gnu.org in RMSʼs.

As for travelling, I am not sure, whether fencepost.gnu.org reveals in headers 
where mail were submitted from, or whether it accepts mail by SMTP at all, but 
RMS seems to submit his mail by SSH rather than by SMTP in any case:

| Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from 
) id 1iSZeG-0003Oz-7M; Wed, 06 Nov 2019 23:43:56 -0500


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Re: GNU/Linux Activation Technologies

2019-11-09 Thread Alexandre François Garreau
Le samedi 9 novembre 2019 21:27:41 CET, vous avez écrit :
> Alexandre François Garreau  wrote:
> > Le samedi 9 novembre 2019, 14:25:58 CET Richard Stallman a écrit :
> >> You should install GNU/Linux Activation Technologies Client if you are
> >> running GNU/Linux.
> >> 
> >> Most distributions are already selling licenses.
> > 
> > I guess this is a forged, illegitimate, mail as it was sent through
> > something  dealing with PHP.
>
> Yes, of course.  Though, would consider the fact that it originates from the
> Ukraine more suspicious, than usage of PHP mailer.

Knowing rms’ config: PHP mailer and Message-ID not coming from emacs (hence not 
postfixed with .fsf, etc.), as he uses emacs and won’t use the web for that, 
but could as well be located some place where his internet access exits at 
some place in Ukraine (he just have to have anyone hosting him behind 
mirohost.net): as he travels a lot, Ukraine wouldn’t be suspicious.



Re: GNU/Linux Activation Technologies

2019-11-09 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Alexandre François Garreau  wrote:
> Le samedi 9 novembre 2019, 14:25:58 CET Richard Stallman a écrit :
>> You should install GNU/Linux Activation Technologies Client if you are 
>> running GNU/Linux.
>> 
>> Most distributions are already selling licenses.
>
> I guess this is a forged, illegitimate, mail as it was sent through something 
>  dealing with PHP.

Yes, of course.  Though, would consider the fact that it originates from the 
Ukraine more suspicious, than usage of PHP mailer.

> However might someone enlight me on what “GNU/Linux Activation Technologies  
> Client” is and how is it supposed to be installed?  Is it a trojan?

No, itʼs a someoneʼs joke [0].  It was already advertised in a same manner on 
other gnu.org m/l a week ago or so.

> Is it free? x)

| GNU Project and Linux Foundation set the following fees:
|
|   - Single GNU/Linux copy license: $99
|   - Volume license (starting from 25 copies, only for organizations): $49 for 
every machine
|   - Key Server license: $999 and full license fee for every license sold
|
| Key Server licenses are only sold by GNU Project and Linux Foundation.

[0] https://notabug.org/GLAT/howtotell


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Re: GNU/Linux Activation Technologies

2019-11-09 Thread Alexandre François Garreau
Le samedi 9 novembre 2019, 14:25:58 CET Richard Stallman a écrit :
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden\'s example. ]]]
> 
> I have some issues with new mail server so ignore encoding issues.
> 
> You should install GNU/Linux Activation Technologies Client if you are
> running GNU/Linux.
> 
> Most distributions are already selling licenses.

I guess this is a forged, illegitimate, mail as it was sent through something 
dealing with PHP.

However might someone enlight me on what “GNU/Linux Activation Technologies 
Client” is and how is it supposed to be installed?  Is it a trojan?

Is it free? x)



GNU/Linux Activation Technologies

2019-11-09 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden\'s example. ]]]

I have some issues with new mail server so ignore encoding issues.

You should install GNU/Linux Activation Technologies Client if you are running 
GNU/Linux.

Most distributions are already selling licenses.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)