Re: [ilugd] PM Office switches to Open Source Mailing Solution
2009/3/19 Dhiraj Gaur : > RTI surley seems to be a good bet. Well in that case why just PMO, lets > shoot and RTI query to major government establishments in our respective > regions, this would surely be an eye opener to the LUGs accross the country. > This way we ll have a decent idea about the actual adoption of open source > by the goverment enterprises and it would be an eye opener for most of the > goverment office. Can we have a format made online? Something like: == To Principal Information officer Ministry of XYZ New Delhi. Subject: Application under RTI Act for information on mailing solution being used. Dear Sir, In view of recent news article (need cite here) about PMO loosing vital information due to mailing software being beset with virus and subsequent adoption of Open Source solution. I would like to request the following information: 1. The software for emailing solution in use under your ministry is proprietary or open source 2. No data/information has been lost in the ministry due to any virus or similar malware attacks. 3. If there is loss of information then period for which records are lost. Yours etc etc = Can other comment on this draft? All it takes is to attache a Rs10 postal order and send it away. -- Regards, Sudev Barar Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there. PS: I know most of people do not follow email niceties (mostly they are not aware) but if you follow bottom post/in-line post style of email conversations it becomes a whole lot easier to carry on meaningful dialogue and you can snip out what is not meaningful too. Most people just hit reply button and top post leaving prior message appended uselessly at bottom. See if you can adopt this style and persuade others. In case you are already doing this . great, spread the message. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [email protected] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
Re: [ilugd] PM Office switches to Open Source Mailing Solution
RTI surley seems to be a good bet. Well in that case why just PMO, lets shoot and RTI query to major government establishments in our respective regions, this would surely be an eye opener to the LUGs accross the country. This way we ll have a decent idea about the actual adoption of open source by the goverment enterprises and it would be an eye opener for most of the goverment office. Any suggestions and feedback are welcome. Regards Dhiraj Gaur On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Dhiraj Gaur > wrote: > > Well I was equally intrigued when I read the news piece. Moreover the > > article never talks of mail server and rather talks of the mail client. > In > > my views this is what might have happened > > > > 1. Virus problems might be common at PMO and they might have asked to > switch > > to a virus free mail solution, especially in view to save their face in > the > > RTI query. > > 2. The vendor/operator/administrator might have suggested switching to > some > > linux based solution. > > 3. They might have migrated the mail server to sendmail/postfix/qmail or > any > > other linux based mailing solution with Squirrel mail as the web access > > tool. > > 4. I am not sure about the protocols or the mail clients now being used, > but > > the environment is surely on Windows based on the desktop PCs accesing > > Squirrel Mail. > > > > People in touch with NIC or PMO may kindly throw more light on these > dobuts. > > But I am happy that at least they started off something which is someway > > connected to open source. > > > > Getting info from NIC or PMO office contacts is a good idea but may be > difficult one. > RTI application to get the answers could be a workable solution to get > the official answers. > > -Sudhanwa > > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- [email protected] > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [email protected] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
Re: [ilugd] PM Office switches to Open Source Mailing Solution
Hi, On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Dhiraj Gaur wrote: > Well I was equally intrigued when I read the news piece. Moreover the > article never talks of mail server and rather talks of the mail client. In > my views this is what might have happened > > 1. Virus problems might be common at PMO and they might have asked to switch > to a virus free mail solution, especially in view to save their face in the > RTI query. > 2. The vendor/operator/administrator might have suggested switching to some > linux based solution. > 3. They might have migrated the mail server to sendmail/postfix/qmail or any > other linux based mailing solution with Squirrel mail as the web access > tool. > 4. I am not sure about the protocols or the mail clients now being used, but > the environment is surely on Windows based on the desktop PCs accesing > Squirrel Mail. > > People in touch with NIC or PMO may kindly throw more light on these dobuts. > But I am happy that at least they started off something which is someway > connected to open source. > Getting info from NIC or PMO office contacts is a good idea but may be difficult one. RTI application to get the answers could be a workable solution to get the official answers. -Sudhanwa ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [email protected] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
Re: [ilugd] PM Office switches to Open Source Mailing Solution
Well I was equally intrigued when I read the news piece. Moreover the article never talks of mail server and rather talks of the mail client. In my views this is what might have happened 1. Virus problems might be common at PMO and they might have asked to switch to a virus free mail solution, especially in view to save their face in the RTI query. 2. The vendor/operator/administrator might have suggested switching to some linux based solution. 3. They might have migrated the mail server to sendmail/postfix/qmail or any other linux based mailing solution with Squirrel mail as the web access tool. 4. I am not sure about the protocols or the mail clients now being used, but the environment is surely on Windows based on the desktop PCs accesing Squirrel Mail. People in touch with NIC or PMO may kindly throw more light on these dobuts. But I am happy that at least they started off something which is someway connected to open source. Regards Dhiraj Gaur On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: > On Monday 16 March 2009 09:29:01 Dhiraj Gaur wrote: > > most of the emails addressed to it were not received. The problem was > > detected only in late April after which the Microsoft Outlook Express > > email software was discontinued and replaced by — Squirrel mail. > > I am more puzzled by this bit than anything else. > > How much of the problem does replacing Outlook Express by Squirrelmail > solve? > > - Is the IMAP server behind Squirrelmail an open source one? Or is it > Exchange? > > - Is the machine on which Squirrelmail is accessed Windows or not? > > - Would downloading/executing attachments, which is the most likely > cause of the virus attack, cause a similar attack on the host computer > or not? > > -- > Sandip > > > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- [email protected] > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [email protected] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
Re: [ilugd] PM Office switches to Open Source Mailing Solution
On Monday 16 March 2009 09:29:01 Dhiraj Gaur wrote: > most of the emails addressed to it were not received. The problem was > detected only in late April after which the Microsoft Outlook Express > email software was discontinued and replaced by — Squirrel mail. I am more puzzled by this bit than anything else. How much of the problem does replacing Outlook Express by Squirrelmail solve? - Is the IMAP server behind Squirrelmail an open source one? Or is it Exchange? - Is the machine on which Squirrelmail is accessed Windows or not? - Would downloading/executing attachments, which is the most likely cause of the virus attack, cause a similar attack on the host computer or not? -- Sandip ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [email protected] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
Re: [ilugd] PM Office switches to Open Source Mailing Solution
Hey, really its a great news for our entire community. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Dhiraj Gaur wrote: > Dear All > > Just read it this morning in TOI at page 7. PM Office has migrated to Linux > based mailing solution. Its a great achievent for the Open Source Community > in India. > > Here goes the complete report > > BUGGED Virus gripped PMO’s email for 3 months > New Delhi: Email system of the Prime Minister’s Office was under the grip > of > a computer virus for three months last year forcing officials to replace > the > software. The technical glitch plagued the email communication system of > the > PMO, which was based on the Microsoft Outlook Express, from February to > April in 2008. >Although the extent of damage was uncertain, the PMO said that most of > the emails addressed to it were not received. The problem was detected only > in late April after which the Microsoft Outlook Express email software was > discontinued and replaced by — Squirrel mail. >The matter came to light during one of the hearings of the CIC where the > PMO submitted that “there was virus problem during the months of > Feb-Mar-Apr > that was diagnosed only late in April”. The CIC was hearing the plea of one > retired Air Commodore Lokesh Batra, who had complained to PMO, through an > email, about discrepancies in the Hindi version of the RTI Act. AGENCIES > > > Source : Times of India (Page 7) , dated 16/03/2009. > > Regards > > Dhiraj Gaur > ___ > ilugd mailinglist -- [email protected] > http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd > Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [email protected] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
Re: [ilugd] PM Office switches to Open Source Mailing Solution
2009/3/16 Dhiraj Gaur : > Just read it this morning in TOI at page 7. PM Office has migrated to Linux > based mailing solution. Its a great achievent for the Open Source Community > in India. > Viva le revolution!! -- Regards, Sudev Barar Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there. PS: I know most of people do not follow email niceties (mostly they are not aware) but if you follow bottom post/in-line post style of email conversations it becomes a whole lot easier to carry on meaningful dialogue and you can snip out what is not meaningful too. Most people just hit reply button and top post leaving prior message appended uselessly at bottom. See if you can adopt this style and persuade others. In case you are already doing this . great, spread the message. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [email protected] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
[ilugd] PM Office switches to Open Source Mailing Solution
Dear All Just read it this morning in TOI at page 7. PM Office has migrated to Linux based mailing solution. Its a great achievent for the Open Source Community in India. Here goes the complete report BUGGED Virus gripped PMO’s email for 3 months New Delhi: Email system of the Prime Minister’s Office was under the grip of a computer virus for three months last year forcing officials to replace the software. The technical glitch plagued the email communication system of the PMO, which was based on the Microsoft Outlook Express, from February to April in 2008. Although the extent of damage was uncertain, the PMO said that most of the emails addressed to it were not received. The problem was detected only in late April after which the Microsoft Outlook Express email software was discontinued and replaced by — Squirrel mail. The matter came to light during one of the hearings of the CIC where the PMO submitted that “there was virus problem during the months of Feb-Mar-Apr that was diagnosed only late in April”. The CIC was hearing the plea of one retired Air Commodore Lokesh Batra, who had complained to PMO, through an email, about discrepancies in the Hindi version of the RTI Act. AGENCIES Source : Times of India (Page 7) , dated 16/03/2009. Regards Dhiraj Gaur ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [email protected] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
