Thanks a lot for your immediate response! I will check out the book you
recommended.
But there is still one important question for me: What are the essential
differences between Jess (or an rule-based expert system in general) and
deductive databases (e.g. Ontobroker)?

Best regards,
Thomas Beer


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> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von James C. Owen
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Februar 2006 20:33
> An: jess-users@sandia.gov
> Betreff: Re: JESS: Jess and deductive databases
> 
> Hmmmm....  With today's 64-bit environments, you can do several  
> Terabytes in memory; if you  have the memory and the architecture.   
> We did some studies on that back in 2002 and found that 4GB was  
> terribly limiting to a "really complex" rulebase.  100 tables with  
> 1,000,000 entries ends up being 100,000,000 entries which 
> would take,  
> on the average of 2,000 bytes per object, 200,000,000,000 bytes of  
> memory.  And that's BEFORE you add the complexity of the rule  
> matching.  That's quite a bit and smacks of poor architecture.  It's  
> the old principle of "Just throw everything into a big bucket, stir  
> it around, and see what rises to the top."  No thought.  No  
> planning.  Just hoping.
> 
> Now, to the time problem; I think Dr. Friedman-Hill has covered this  
> many times and it's covered quite well in his book, "Jess in Action"  
> - available from Amazon.  And, no, I'm not pimping for the book.   
> Just pointing it out.
> 
> Performance tests are available at http://www.kbsc.com/ 
> benchmarks2000-2005.xls (available sometime tonight or tomorrow) and  
> (soon - maybe a couple of months) http://www.kbsc.com/ 
> benchmarks2006-2010.xls.  Enjoy...
> 
> SDG
> jco
> 
> James C. Owen
> Senior Consultant
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.kbsc.com
> "Never give up.  Never give up.  Never, never, never give up."
>  From a speech by former Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, during  
> the most trying times of the British Empire; a great leader too soon  
> forgotten by his country after keeping it from being swallowed up by  
> the Nazi Empire during the second world war.
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 7, 2006, at 11:18 AM, Thomas Beer wrote:
> 
> > Hi all Jess users!
> > I'm not sure if this mailing list is the right one for my 
> question,  
> > if there
> > is a more adequate list just give me a hint.
> > I have a more common question regarding Jess, rule-based expert  
> > systems and
> > deductive databases. What are the essential differences (besides  
> > the smooth
> > Java integration) between Jess (or an rule-based expert system) and
> > deductive databases (e.g. Ontobroker)?
> > Is it possible to store a huge amount of facts (related to  
> > databases, e.g.
> > 100 tables with 1000000 table entries each) in the working memory?  
> > Is there
> > a kind of database backend integrated which automatically 
> updates the
> > working memory? Are there some performance tests available?
> > Is Jess appropriate for handling "time sensitive" facts and rules  
> > related to
> > them, e.g. "If time is 06:00 then ring alarm". What I'm asking is,  
> > is it
> > possible (or reasonable) using Jess to implement time dependent  
> > triggers?
> > This would require periodically updates (e.g. every milli second)  
> > of the
> > working memory, right?!?
> >
> > I strongly appreciate your help!
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Thomas Beer
> >
> >
> >
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