Re: L4Re running Chromium?

2025-04-14 Thread Lonnie via l4-hackers
Hi Adam,

Thanks os very much for getting back to me on this question.

I have often through that L4Re would make a GREAT ultra-lightweight HyperOS and 
if it could run even a lightweight Linux with Chrome browser in a VM/container 
thenperhaps that still might be an option although I would think that natively 
would be better.

Lately, I have been investigating Capability-based OS's like Genode-Labs that 
has a still evolving SculptOS built on the Genode libraries but still a very 
long ways to go, as well as have been looking at the open source Google Fuchsia 
OS which is also still evolving and not yet viable for this type of effort that 
I am planning.

While not necessarily ultra-lightweight, there is also the ChromiumOS and one 
flavor if it is OpenFyde that runs chromium browser, but it is still very heavy 
for what I was seeking.

I will continue to work a bit with L4Re and the others to see which I might be 
able to use for a PoC to get an initial setup for testing which can always be 
changed at a later time.

Thanks again and have a great day,
Lonnie

On Monday, April 14, 2025 06:58 CEST, Adam Lackorzynski  wrote:

> Hi Lonnie,
> 
> On Tue Apr 08, 2025 at 12:37:42 -0400, Lonnie Cumberland via l4-hackers wrote:
> > I am experimenting with ultra-lightweight object capabilities-based OS's and
> > have only briefly in the past worked a little with L4Re as I had troubles
> > getting it to run cleanly on my Intel NUC7 (x86_64) hardware due to some
> > type of graphics problem.  In any case, I am back to see if I can give it
> > another go and would like to work toward building a type of
> > ultra-lightweight Kiosk type system that might run Chromium web browser in
> > full screen mode without any type of window manager straight from booting
> > up.  The project that I have in mind would only use and need a fullscreen
> > web browser, and perhaps capabilities to run containers (docker or podman)
> > perhaps so that I could run a local web server and some other things in the
> > containers.
> > 
> > Not sure if L4Re is able to handle all of this, but I wanted to ask, just in
> > case.
> 
> That's indeed an interesting project! Definitely not today, as both a
> browser as well as container tech do require features of the OS that are
> not available. Things are improving gradually and running a web browser
> natively would be awesome. Regarding a web server that should be pretty
> good as all building blocks are there.
> 
> 
> Adam

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Re: L4Re running Chromium?

2025-04-13 Thread Adam Lackorzynski
Hi Lonnie,

On Tue Apr 08, 2025 at 12:37:42 -0400, Lonnie Cumberland via l4-hackers wrote:
> I am experimenting with ultra-lightweight object capabilities-based OS's and
> have only briefly in the past worked a little with L4Re as I had troubles
> getting it to run cleanly on my Intel NUC7 (x86_64) hardware due to some
> type of graphics problem.  In any case, I am back to see if I can give it
> another go and would like to work toward building a type of
> ultra-lightweight Kiosk type system that might run Chromium web browser in
> full screen mode without any type of window manager straight from booting
> up.  The project that I have in mind would only use and need a fullscreen
> web browser, and perhaps capabilities to run containers (docker or podman)
> perhaps so that I could run a local web server and some other things in the
> containers.
> 
> Not sure if L4Re is able to handle all of this, but I wanted to ask, just in
> case.

That's indeed an interesting project! Definitely not today, as both a
browser as well as container tech do require features of the OS that are
not available. Things are improving gradually and running a web browser
natively would be awesome. Regarding a web server that should be pretty
good as all building blocks are there.


Adam
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L4Re running Chromium?

2025-04-08 Thread Lonnie Cumberland via l4-hackers

Hi All,

Hope that your day is going well.

I am experimenting with ultra-lightweight object capabilities-based OS's 
and have only briefly in the past worked a little with L4Re as I had 
troubles getting it to run cleanly on my Intel NUC7 (x86_64) hardware 
due to some type of graphics problem.  In any case, I am back to see if 
I can give it another go and would like to work toward building a type 
of ultra-lightweight Kiosk type system that might run Chromium web 
browser in full screen mode without any type of window manager straight 
from booting up.  The project that I have in mind would only use and 
need a fullscreen web browser, and perhaps capabilities to run 
containers (docker or podman) perhaps so that I could run a local web 
server and some other things in the containers.


Not sure if L4Re is able to handle all of this, but I wanted to ask, 
just in case.


Thanks and have a great day,
Lonnie___
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