RE: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up?
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:15:15 +0200 From: "Avi Cohen Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? Matthew, What do you mean with unstable? With W2K and XP I get from time to time BSOD sometimes after 5 min sometimes after 1.5 hours. It dies in stream.sys which is the M$ kernel stream driver. Since it is hard to reproduce I don't know where I should place the blame. Did you try on W98SE both the WDM and the MCI driver? You can find them on http://www.xs4all.nl/~avics/ Avi. > -Original Message- > From: Matthew Hanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, 14 July, 2007 4:39 > To: Libretto > Subject: RE: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > > Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 02:37:39 + > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > > >From: "Avi Cohen Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >The margi dvdplay.exe doesn't need that much memory. > >The whole dvd play with the margi works with kernel streams that > >connect 'pins' together. The app says 'play' and a whole orgestra of > >kernel thingies start to push a lot of bytes into the margi > which does > >the HW decoding and streaming it back via Zoomed Video into the > >graphical card memory without the processor intervening. > > It took me some time to find the option to enable the ZV port > in W98SE. > which is in the advanced setting for the Yamaha volume control. > > >The only issue with the margi is: how do I get the DVD stream with a > >sustained of 5Mbytes/s into the margi. Don't need much RAM for this, > >only speed. > >It works also under linux 2.6 but the X application needs to be > >enhanced a bit more but menus, display etc work. > > > >Avi. > >(Trust me: i know the margi dvd-to-go inside out...) > > Do you know why it's been so fincky and unstable for me in > both W2K and W98SE Avi? > > Matt > > Libretto list info: > List archive 1: http://www.technoir.org/cgi-bin/libretto.cgi > List archive 2: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > To unsubscribe: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16212.html > > _ > http://liveearth.msn.com > > >
RE: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up?
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 02:37:39 + From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? From: "Avi Cohen Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The margi dvdplay.exe doesn't need that much memory. The whole dvd play with the margi works with kernel streams that connect 'pins' together. The app says 'play' and a whole orgestra of kernel thingies start to push a lot of bytes into the margi which does the HW decoding and streaming it back via Zoomed Video into the graphical card memory without the processor intervening. It took me some time to find the option to enable the ZV port in W98SE. which is in the advanced setting for the Yamaha volume control. The only issue with the margi is: how do I get the DVD stream with a sustained of 5Mbytes/s into the margi. Don't need much RAM for this, only speed. It works also under linux 2.6 but the X application needs to be enhanced a bit more but menus, display etc work. Avi. (Trust me: i know the margi dvd-to-go inside out...) Do you know why it's been so fincky and unstable for me in both W2K and W98SE Avi? Matt Libretto list info: List archive 1: http://www.technoir.org/cgi-bin/libretto.cgi List archive 2: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] To unsubscribe: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16212.html _ http://liveearth.msn.com
Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up?
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 02:22:45 + From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? From: "Alan Middleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >From: "Alan Middleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>I did find time to dig out the 32mb card to give the libretto it's full > >>64Mb and it didn't seem to make a blind bit of difference in terms of > >>mounting and playing DVD images.<< > > I was surprised to find the same. So it worked with the base 32Mb and a disconnected card or it didn't work with either 32 or 64Mb of ram?< By "a disconnected card", I'm guessing you mean that the MARGI is inserted into the Lib, but is disconnected from any external DVD drive... right? If so, yes... I only play files copied onto the Lib's HDD via a network connection to my PC. And yes, the MARGI processes video playback from ISOs as well as MPEG-2 .mpg video files fine from the HDD with just the 32MB of ram. I don't have an external DVD drive. But again, the performance is unpredictable. Sometimes a movie will play from start to finish with no problems. Other times itll freeze 23 times or more. Matt Libretto list info: List archive 1: http://www.technoir.org/cgi-bin/libretto.cgi List archive 2: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] To unsubscribe: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16212.html _ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507
Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up?
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:54:17 +0200 From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? Matthew Hanson wrote: Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:08:47 + From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? And oh... does anyone know what happened to Mike Kopplin's list archives on thre technoir.org site? You can still find lots of it on the WayBack Machine: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.technoir.nu/libretto/list/ at least until June last year. Philip
RE: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up?
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:29:18 +0200 From: "Avi Cohen Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? The answer is simple. The margi dvdplay.exe doesn't need that much memory. The whole dvd play with the margi works with kernel streams that connect 'pins' together. The app says 'play' and a whole orgestra of kernel thingies start to push a lot of bytes into the margi which does the HW decoding and streaming it back via Zoomed Video into the graphical card memory without the processor intervening. The only issue with the margi is: how do I get the DVD stream with a sustained of 5Mbytes/s into the margi. Don't need much RAM for this, only speed. It works also under linux 2.6 but the X application needs to be enhanced a bit more but menus, display etc work. Avi. (Trust me: i know the margi dvd-to-go inside out...) > -Original Message- > From: Alan Middleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 12 July, 2007 17:55 > To: Libretto > Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:54:28 +0100 (BST) > From: "Alan Middleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > > > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:08:47 + > > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > > > > >From: "Alan Middleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >>I did find time to dig out the 32mb card to give the > libretto it's > > >>full 64Mb and it didn't seem to make a blind bit of difference in > > >>terms of mounting and playing DVD images.<< > > > > I was surprised to find the same. > > > So it worked with the base 32Mb and a disconnected card or it > didn't work with either 32 or 64Mb of ram? > > > > > >>I'm not sure if it's something in my configuration (it > seems I had > > >>to mount a region 2 image to get margi to decode region 2 vobs), > > >>something I've introduced in the ripping process, some extra > > >>processing introduced by it being region 2 or something > still adrift > > >>with the libretto hard disk, to many parameters at the moment and > > >>I've lost my motivation and spare time to follow up so > the project > > >>is officially on hold.<< > > > > Are you using DVD Shrink to create and ISO file from the > DVD? It has > > a "region free" option when making backups. > > > I tried region 0 on the first attempt and it didn't work but > at that time it was work in progress. I think I'll try the > same process in my thinkpad and once I have a working > solution try to apply it to the libretto. > > > > > > And oh... does anyone know what happened to Mike Kopplin's list > > archives on thre technoir.org site? > > > > Matt > > > > Libretto list info: > > List archive 1: http://www.technoir.org/cgi-bin/libretto.cgi > > List archive 2: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16212.html > > > > _ > > > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_mi > > gration_HM_mini_2G_0507 > > > > > > > > > > - End Original Message - > >
Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up?
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:54:28 +0100 (BST) From: "Alan Middleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:08:47 + > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > > >From: "Alan Middleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>I did find time to dig out the 32mb card to give the libretto it's full > >>64Mb and it didn't seem to make a blind bit of difference in terms of > >>mounting and playing DVD images.<< > > I was surprised to find the same. So it worked with the base 32Mb and a disconnected card or it didn't work with either 32 or 64Mb of ram? > > >>I'm not sure if it's something in my configuration (it seems I had to > >>mount a region 2 image to get margi to decode region 2 vobs), something > >>I've introduced in the ripping process, some extra processing introduced > >>by it being region 2 or something still adrift with the libretto hard > >>disk, to many parameters at the moment and I've lost my motivation and > >>spare time to follow up so the project is officially on hold.<< > > Are you using DVD Shrink to create and ISO file from the DVD? It has a > "region free" option when making backups. I tried region 0 on the first attempt and it didn't work but at that time it was work in progress. I think I'll try the same process in my thinkpad and once I have a working solution try to apply it to the libretto. > > And oh... does anyone know what happened to Mike Kopplin's list archives on > thre technoir.org site? > > Matt > > Libretto list info: > List archive 1: http://www.technoir.org/cgi-bin/libretto.cgi > List archive 2: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > To unsubscribe: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16212.html > > _ > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 > > > > - End Original Message -
Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up?
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:08:47 + From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? From: "Alan Middleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I did find time to dig out the 32mb card to give the libretto it's full 64Mb and it didn't seem to make a blind bit of difference in terms of mounting and playing DVD images.<< I was surprised to find the same. I'm not sure if it's something in my configuration (it seems I had to mount a region 2 image to get margi to decode region 2 vobs), something I've introduced in the ripping process, some extra processing introduced by it being region 2 or something still adrift with the libretto hard disk, to many parameters at the moment and I've lost my motivation and spare time to follow up so the project is officially on hold.<< Are you using DVD Shrink to create and ISO file from the DVD? It has a "region free" option when making backups. And oh... does anyone know what happened to Mike Kopplin's list archives on thre technoir.org site? Matt Libretto list info: List archive 1: http://www.technoir.org/cgi-bin/libretto.cgi List archive 2: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] To unsubscribe: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16212.html _ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507
Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up?
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:31:03 +0100 (BST) From: "Alan Middleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? Hi Matt, Apologies for the tardiness in my reply just knee deep in work at the moment. I did find time to dig out the 32mb card to give the libretto it's full 64Mb and it didn't seem to make a blind bit of difference in terms of mounting and playing DVD images. I'm not sure if it's something in my configuration (it seems I had to mount a region 2 image to get margi to decode region 2 vobs), something I've introduced in the ripping process, some extra processing introduced by it being region 2 or something still adrift with the libretto hard disk, to many parameters at the moment and I've lost my motivation and spare time to follow up so the project is officially on hold. For what it's worth slipstreamed windows loads a darn sight faster than my first installed standard version (SP3 as I recall) and feels snappier. If I was clean installing a libretto I'd go that route again and burn a cd for future usage. I think there are some limitations on stopping SFP in later service packs. Have a read of http://www.vorck.com/remove-ie.html this was the process I followed (Philip does link to it). Oh for a switch in windows that says don't bind my hands, I'll accept the consequences of my actions, and another one to do a full backup of the hard disk overnight with a command line restore option :). Any way - back to lurking again, good luck with the mp3s. Thanks again for your responses, Alan. - Start Original Message - Sent: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 10:37:49 -0700 From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Libretto Subject: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 05:45:57 + > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > > I just discovered my 32MB RAM extension card has been loose, and hasn't been > recognized for a few days. But not knowing that yet, today I was able to > play MPEG-2 video with the MARGI card and software. Now I don't know if > this means that Alan should be able to >install< the card and software with > only 32MB of system RAM or not. > > I discovered the loose card after reinstalling W2K. My Echo Indigo sound > card had stopped working while playing MP3s via Winamp. I gave up trying to > troubleshoot the problem thinking it was an OS problem. But upon checking > which service pack was installed with my W2K installation, I found the > system was only seeing the basic 32MB RAM. > > I was reading Philip's page on setting up W2k on the 110, and was wondering > if I ought to try disabling SFP. But it seems he was dealing with SP2. > I've got SP3 installed, and will probably upgrade that to SP4. I don't see > any info on disabling SFP in W2K SP4 though. > > Matt > > > Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 05:00:52 + > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > > From: "Alan Middleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > If I try either an ISO mounted with DaemonTools ripped from a region 2 dvd, > or opening a vob file direct from the hard disk the libretto just displays a > black window and doesn't do much else (hard disk light is permanently on)..< > > I'm running a libretto 110 with 32Mb of ram<<<<<< > 32MB of RAM??? You don't have the 32MB expansion card to bring the 110 up to > 64MB RAM? I'd say that'd probably be the problem. I got the Margi working in > both W2K and W98SE with only installing the drivers that either you, Avi, or > someone else pointed out some time back now. The hardest part of the process > was finding the card I buried in my storage unit after I gave up on it ages > ago. > > I do have to say though... the darned thing is >not< the most stable thing > running on the 110. It's like playing roulette each time I play a video. > Sometimes it'll play for and hour or more. At other times it'll lock up 2-3 > times in an hour. I haven't really been keeping tabs on the odds though. I > must say though, it is pretty cool to be playing MPEG-2 video on the 110. > > Matt > > _ > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 > > > > - End Original Message -
Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up?
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:59:09 + From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I was reading Philip's page on setting up W2k on the 110, and was wondering if I ought to try disabling SFP. But it seems he was dealing with SP2. I've got SP3 installed, and will probably upgrade that to SP4. I don't see any info on disabling SFP in W2K SP4 though. I ran SP4 on my Lib, maybe even a "SP5" a la Fred Vorck. Fred Vorck's pages are also based on SP4. And yes, disabling SFP makes a huge difference, no so much for RAM usage but rather for starting up / shutting down times. I reinstalled W2k to address a problems with my Echo Indigo sound card on my 110. When I 1stgot it, I was a few days trying to find a workaround for audio playback stopping in the middle of the 1st MP3. I found that if I let W2K boot and load ZoneAlarm, then start Winamp, and then shut down ZA, I could get MP3s to play continuously. Silly me, I thought if I just disabled ZA from loading at boot, I'd be able to get Winamp to play MP3s throught the Echo properly. But the ZA workaround was the only thing that got continous playback. Then suddenly even that workaround stopped working. I reinstalled W2K after trying everything I could come up with. In the process I found my 32MB expansion had stopped to be recognized in BIOS. That got me back to the workaround to get MP3/Indigo playback. But its never been reliable. Within 4-6 hours of play, Winamp will still stop playback mid-track, and usually requires a reboot of the system 2-3 times in that 4-6 hour play time. Theres plenty of system resources, 35,342K total at boot and then 5696K more after Winamp loads. Id think 64MB RAM would be able to deal with that. Cant quite figure out whats locking things up . Maybe a memory conflict somewhere. Any idea whats going on there Philip? I was very close to going the Vorck route before I found the loose RAM. Matt Libretto list info: List archive 1: http://www.technoir.org/cgi-bin/libretto.cgi List archive 2: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] To unsubscribe: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16212.html _ http://newlivehotmail.com
RE: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up?
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 15:22:44 +0200 From: "Avi Cohen Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? Philip, Ok SPF=WFP :-) I've used nlite before to make a dedicated Libretto installer Avi. > -Original Message- > From: Philip Nienhuis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, 08 July, 2007 13:36 > To: Libretto > Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > > Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:35:30 +0200 > From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > > Avi Cohen Stuart wrote: > > Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 07:20:35 +0200 > > From: "Avi Cohen Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > > > > SFP? > > Care to tell me what it is? and can it be disabled on XP as well? > > System File Protection. Windows makes back-ups of critical > system files from \windows\system32 in a protected subdir > called dllcache. As soon as some bad written installer > overwrites those dll's, Windows copies them back from the cache. > And yes, on XP it can be disabled too. google for nLite and > you can learn how to make XP installation CDs with SFP > disabled and much more. > > P. > >
Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up?
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:35:30 +0200 From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? Avi Cohen Stuart wrote: Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 07:20:35 +0200 From: "Avi Cohen Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? SFP? Care to tell me what it is? and can it be disabled on XP as well? System File Protection. Windows makes back-ups of critical system files from \windows\system32 in a protected subdir called dllcache. As soon as some bad written installer overwrites those dll's, Windows copies them back from the cache. And yes, on XP it can be disabled too. google for nLite and you can learn how to make XP installation CDs with SFP disabled and much more. P.
RE: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up?
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 07:20:35 +0200 From: "Avi Cohen Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? SFP? Care to tell me what it is? and can it be disabled on XP as well? Avi. > -Original Message- > From: Philip Nienhuis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, 08 July, 2007 0:26 > To: Libretto > Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > > Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:06:29 +0200 > From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > > Matthew Hanson wrote: > > Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 22:59:28 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? > > > > > > I was reading Philip's page on setting up W2k on the 110, and was > > wondering if I ought to try disabling SFP. But it seems he was > > dealing with SP2. I've got > > SP3 installed, and will probably upgrade that to SP4. I > don't see any > > info on disabling SFP in W2K SP4 though. > > I ran SP4 on my Lib, maybe even a "SP5" a la Fred Vorck. Fred > Vorck's pages are also based on SP4. > And yes, disabling SFP makes a huge difference, no so much > for RAM usage but rather for starting up / shutting down times. > > BTW I read your mail three times, on to my personal e-mail, > two in the LIB list. > > Philip > >
Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up?
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 23:06:29 +0200 From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? Matthew Hanson wrote: Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 22:59:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: MARGI - Was: [LIB] Lib list server belly up? I was reading Philip's page on setting up W2k on the 110, and was wondering if I ought to try disabling SFP. But it seems he was dealing with SP2. I've got SP3 installed, and will probably upgrade that to SP4. I don't see any info on disabling SFP in W2K SP4 though. I ran SP4 on my Lib, maybe even a "SP5" a la Fred Vorck. Fred Vorck's pages are also based on SP4. And yes, disabling SFP makes a huge difference, no so much for RAM usage but rather for starting up / shutting down times. BTW I read your mail three times, on to my personal e-mail, two in the LIB list. Philip
