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From: "James Simmons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Scott Prader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Linux Kernel Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE New Open Source X ser
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From: "James Simmons" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Scott Prader" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "Linux Kernel Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE New Open Source X server
Thank you. It is
Thank you. It is true all I want to do is help the community. I feel as
alot of people do XFree86 can not meet the needs of the community. It is
very sad that people feel that no amount of people in the open source
community can make code of the same or better quality as XFree86 in a
shorter
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Scott Prader wrote:
> the 'latest RAD toolkits' now THERE'S something decent worth quoting, I
> hope you won't mind me doing so. :) So, going back to the above, and
> again, let me know if i'm wrong here, you're saying that in order to
> support a decent X server project,
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:57:58PM -0700, Miles Lane wrote:
> "David S. Miller" wrote:
> >
> > James Simmons writes:
> > > The Linux GFX project grew out the need for a higher performance X
> > > server that has a much faster developement cycle. In the last few years
> > > the graphics
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Scott Prader wrote:
the 'latest RAD toolkits' now THERE'S something decent worth quoting, I
hope you won't mind me doing so. :) So, going back to the above, and
again, let me know if i'm wrong here, you're saying that in order to
support a decent X server project, there
Thank you. It is true all I want to do is help the community. I feel as
alot of people do XFree86 can not meet the needs of the community. It is
very sad that people feel that no amount of people in the open source
community can make code of the same or better quality as XFree86 in a
shorter
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:57:58PM -0700, Miles Lane wrote:
"David S. Miller" wrote:
James Simmons writes:
The Linux GFX project grew out the need for a higher performance X
server that has a much faster developement cycle. In the last few years
the graphics card and
* Alan Cox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) uttered:
> the ideas behind it. Some of them have been at it since Linus was a small
> child. The TinyX server framework also lets you hack arbitarily interesting
> card drivers into a nice easy framework.
you will NOT see my complaining about any of that. :)
btw
Larry McVoy writes:
> In other words, what the world does not need is another project.
> What the world does need is people who roll up their sleeves and do
> real work. You may well be one of them, that would be cool. But
> what would be even cooler is if we join together on real, existing
>
> different, new, from scratch, to go in another direction. I think Linus
> himself did this back in 1991, obviously not with X, but you get the
> idea I think. If not, then don't bother answering cuz it'll just be a
Yeah and we spent most of those 10 years reinventing wheels in order to make
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:56:03PM -0400, Scott Prader wrote:
> [much stuff about X]
Scott, I think in part what people are reacting to is the "Hi, I'm going
to start a new project, it will be cool, you should come work on it".
Forgive me if I got it wrong, I'm paraphrasing, but wasn't it
* Miles Lane ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) uttered:
> Take a chill pill, dude.
i am quite calm. :)
> Dave's questions are perfectly valid. Obviously, if a bunch of
> kick-butt programmers want to go off a create a "from-scratch"
> X11 implementation, please go right ahead! If it turns out to
> be
Scott Prader wrote:
>
> * David S. Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) uttered:
> >
> > James Simmons writes:
> > > The Linux GFX project grew out the need for a higher performance X
> >
> > And this specific functionality is?
> >
> > I think this is not a worthwhile project at all. The X tree,
"David S. Miller" wrote:
>
> James Simmons writes:
> > The Linux GFX project grew out the need for a higher performance X
> > server that has a much faster developement cycle. In the last few years
> > the graphics card and multimedia environments have grow at such a rate
> > the current
* David S. Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) uttered:
>
> James Simmons writes:
> > The Linux GFX project grew out the need for a higher performance X
>
> And this specific functionality is?
>
> I think this is not a worthwhile project at all. The X tree, it's
> assosciated protocols and APIs,
James Simmons writes:
> The Linux GFX project grew out the need for a higher performance X
> server that has a much faster developement cycle. In the last few years
> the graphics card and multimedia environments have grow at such a rate
> the current X solutions can no longer keep pace
* Miles Lane ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) uttered:
Take a chill pill, dude.
i am quite calm. :)
Dave's questions are perfectly valid. Obviously, if a bunch of
kick-butt programmers want to go off a create a "from-scratch"
X11 implementation, please go right ahead! If it turns out to
be great
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:56:03PM -0400, Scott Prader wrote:
[much stuff about X]
Scott, I think in part what people are reacting to is the "Hi, I'm going
to start a new project, it will be cool, you should come work on it".
Forgive me if I got it wrong, I'm paraphrasing, but wasn't it
different, new, from scratch, to go in another direction. I think Linus
himself did this back in 1991, obviously not with X, but you get the
idea I think. If not, then don't bother answering cuz it'll just be a
Yeah and we spent most of those 10 years reinventing wheels in order to make
Larry McVoy writes:
In other words, what the world does not need is another project.
What the world does need is people who roll up their sleeves and do
real work. You may well be one of them, that would be cool. But
what would be even cooler is if we join together on real, existing
* Alan Cox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) uttered:
the ideas behind it. Some of them have been at it since Linus was a small
child. The TinyX server framework also lets you hack arbitarily interesting
card drivers into a nice easy framework.
you will NOT see my complaining about any of that. :)
btw
"David S. Miller" wrote:
James Simmons writes:
The Linux GFX project grew out the need for a higher performance X
server that has a much faster developement cycle. In the last few years
the graphics card and multimedia environments have grow at such a rate
the current X
James Simmons writes:
The Linux GFX project grew out the need for a higher performance X
server that has a much faster developement cycle. In the last few years
the graphics card and multimedia environments have grow at such a rate
the current X solutions can no longer keep pace nor
* David S. Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) uttered:
James Simmons writes:
The Linux GFX project grew out the need for a higher performance X
And this specific functionality is?
I think this is not a worthwhile project at all. The X tree, it's
assosciated protocols and APIs, are
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