Re: Homebrew Warning when upgrading to 2.5 on Mac
On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 09:37:20AM +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse via lyx-users wrote: > Where are we on this? Stuck at the legalese AFAIU. Things might get more speedy when we approach September I guess :) > I can sponsor a ransom for let's say 500 USD. I am sure Stephan reads this list ;) Pavel -- lyx-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Homebrew Warning when upgrading to 2.5 on Mac
Where are we on this? I can sponsor a ransom for let's say 500 USD. el On 2026/03/03 23:17, Eberhard W Lisse via lyx-users wrote: > On 2026-03-03 21:40, Pavel Sanda via lyx-users wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 09:12:42PM +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse via >> lyx- users wrote: > [...] >>> Only Homebrew users are affected by this.> >> No, I think mid-term everyone is affected, as Gatekeeper check on >> DMG can't be bypassed on newer MACs, read the original thread... > > Gatekeeper check is another issue (I was the OP :-)-O) > >>> I like the automated process, and my little company can sponsor >>> (some of) the work, if need be. We did sponsor Stephan's Mac >>> after all :-)-O >> >> Yes, it looks like Stephan is in favor of this solution. The >> ransom was around 100$ per year I think. > [...] > > el > -- lyx-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Homebrew Warning when upgrading to 2.5 on Mac
On 2026-03-03 21:40, Pavel Sanda via lyx-users wrote: > On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 09:12:42PM +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse via lyx- > users wrote: [...] >> Only Homebrew users are affected by this.> > No, I think mid-term everyone is affected, as Gatekeeper check on > DMG can't be bypassed on newer MACs, read the original thread... Gatekeeper check is another issue (I was the OP :-)-O) >> I like the automated process, and my little company can sponsor >> (some of) the work, if need be. We did sponsor Stephan's Mac after >> all :-)-O > > Yes, it looks like Stephan is in favor of this solution. The ransom > was around 100$ per year I think. [...] el -- lyx-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Homebrew Warning when upgrading to 2.5 on Mac
On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 09:12:42PM +0200, Dr Eberhard Lisse via lyx-users wrote: > > Well, it would mean that anyone who wants lyx on mac has to install > > homebrew first. Some people might not like to install whole package > > manager just to get lyx. > > That is not correct, as there is a working DMG for the Mac. > > Only Homebrew users are affected by this. No, I think mid-term everyone is affected, as Gatekeeper check on DMG can't be bypassed on newer MACs, read the original thread... > I like the automated process, and my little company can sponsor (some > of) the work, if need be. We did sponsor Stephan's Mac after all :-)-O Yes, it looks like Stephan is in favor of this solution. The ransom was around 100$ per year I think. Pavel -- lyx-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Homebrew Warning when upgrading to 2.5 on Mac
On 2026/03/03 16:05, Pavel Sanda via lyx-users wrote: [...] >> > IIRC the solutions seen: >> > 1) someone creates homebrew formula to build mac binaries from source. >> > 2) pay ransom to Apple to "certify" our package. >> > 3) ask some other dev from TeX-osphere with existing account to sign for >> > us. >>> Option 2 is probably easiset and most generic but also most >>> morally doubtful. >> >> And option 1 is the "correct" solution, isn't it? > > Well, it would mean that anyone who wants lyx on mac has to install > homebrew first. Some people might not like to install whole package > manager just to get lyx. That is not correct, as there is a working DMG for the Mac. Only Homebrew users are affected by this. > The upside might be that at the end Stephan does not need to prepare > binaries anymore and the whole build process becomes automatized and > transparent (little bit like in gentoo linux, where you prepare only > build scripts and not binary packages, debian is slowly getting > there via git/salsa based pipeline). > > How difficult is to built this on mac with all dependencies in place > only Stephan knows (e.g. do we need/insert specific libraries etc> like for > windows?). > > The transparency and decreasing the bus factor is probably what I > like most on the solution 1. I like the automated process, and my little company can sponsor (some of) the work, if need be. We did sponsor Stephan's Mac after all :-)-O el -- lyx-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Homebrew Warning when upgrading to 2.5 on Mac
How much is the 'ransom'? el On 2026/03/03 14:06, Pavel Sanda via lyx-users wrote: > On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 06:16:33PM +0200, Eberhard W Lisse via lyx-users > wrote: >> I get this warning when installing (upgrading) LyX via Homebrew: >> >> Warning: lyx has been deprecated because it does not pass the macOS >> Gatekeeper check! It will be disabled on 2026-09-01. >> >> Not that it bothers me, nor that I even understand this, but I thought I >> report it. M4 MacBookAir 26.3. > > Real problem which we did not agree how to fix yet. > > IIRC the solutions seen: > 1) someone creates homebrew formula to build mac binaries from source. > 2) pay ransom to Apple to "certify" our package. > 3) ask some other dev from TeX-osphere with existing account to sign for us. > > Option 2 is probably easiset and most generic but also most morally doubtful. > > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg225671.html > > Pavel -- lyx-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Homebrew Warning when upgrading to 2.5 on Mac
Am 03.03.2026 um 15:05 schrieb Pavel Sanda : > > On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 01:29:27PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes via lyx-users > wrote: >> Le 03/03/2026 ?? 13:06, Pavel Sanda via lyx-users a écrit : >>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 06:16:33PM +0200, Eberhard W Lisse via lyx-users >>> wrote: I get this warning when installing (upgrading) LyX via Homebrew: Warning: lyx has been deprecated because it does not pass the macOS Gatekeeper check! It will be disabled on 2026-09-01. Not that it bothers me, nor that I even understand this, but I thought I report it. M4 MacBookAir 26.3. >>> >>> Real problem which we did not agree how to fix yet. >>> >>> IIRC the solutions seen: >>> 1) someone creates homebrew formula to build mac binaries from source. >>> 2) pay ransom to Apple to "certify" our package. >>> 3) ask some other dev from TeX-osphere with existing account to sign for us. >>> >>> Option 2 is probably easiset and most generic but also most morally >>> doubtful. >> >> And option 1 is the "correct" solution, isn't it? > > Well, it would mean that anyone who wants lyx on mac has to install homebrew > first. > Some people might not like to install whole package manager just to get lyx. > > The upside might be that at the end Stephan does not need to prepare binaries > anymore and the whole build process becomes automatized and transparent > (little bit like in gentoo linux, where you prepare only build scripts and not > binary packages, debian is slowly getting there via git/salsa based pipeline). > > How difficult is to built this on mac with all dependencies in place > only Stephan knows (e.g. do we need/insert specific libraries etc like for > windows?). > > The transparency and decreasing the bus factor is probably what I like most on > the solution 1. But there is nothing wrong with having both homebrew formula and manual releases. On one of my systems I have homebrew installed. But I never tried to understand the concepts and details. Stephan -- lyx-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Homebrew Warning when upgrading to 2.5 on Mac
On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 01:29:27PM +0100, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes via lyx-users wrote: > Le 03/03/2026 ?? 13:06, Pavel Sanda via lyx-users a écrit : > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 06:16:33PM +0200, Eberhard W Lisse via lyx-users > > wrote: > > > I get this warning when installing (upgrading) LyX via Homebrew: > > > > > > Warning: lyx has been deprecated because it does not pass the macOS > > > Gatekeeper check! It will be disabled on 2026-09-01. > > > > > > Not that it bothers me, nor that I even understand this, but I thought I > > > report it. M4 MacBookAir 26.3. > > > > Real problem which we did not agree how to fix yet. > > > > IIRC the solutions seen: > > 1) someone creates homebrew formula to build mac binaries from source. > > 2) pay ransom to Apple to "certify" our package. > > 3) ask some other dev from TeX-osphere with existing account to sign for us. > > > > Option 2 is probably easiset and most generic but also most morally > > doubtful. > > And option 1 is the "correct" solution, isn't it? Well, it would mean that anyone who wants lyx on mac has to install homebrew first. Some people might not like to install whole package manager just to get lyx. The upside might be that at the end Stephan does not need to prepare binaries anymore and the whole build process becomes automatized and transparent (little bit like in gentoo linux, where you prepare only build scripts and not binary packages, debian is slowly getting there via git/salsa based pipeline). How difficult is to built this on mac with all dependencies in place only Stephan knows (e.g. do we need/insert specific libraries etc like for windows?). The transparency and decreasing the bus factor is probably what I like most on the solution 1. Pavel -- lyx-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Homebrew Warning when upgrading to 2.5 on Mac
Le 03/03/2026 à 13:06, Pavel Sanda via lyx-users a écrit : On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 06:16:33PM +0200, Eberhard W Lisse via lyx-users wrote: I get this warning when installing (upgrading) LyX via Homebrew: Warning: lyx has been deprecated because it does not pass the macOS Gatekeeper check! It will be disabled on 2026-09-01. Not that it bothers me, nor that I even understand this, but I thought I report it. M4 MacBookAir 26.3. Real problem which we did not agree how to fix yet. IIRC the solutions seen: 1) someone creates homebrew formula to build mac binaries from source. 2) pay ransom to Apple to "certify" our package. 3) ask some other dev from TeX-osphere with existing account to sign for us. Option 2 is probably easiset and most generic but also most morally doubtful. And option 1 is the "correct" solution, isn't it? JMarc -- lyx-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Homebrew Warning when upgrading to 2.5 on Mac
On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 06:16:33PM +0200, Eberhard W Lisse via lyx-users wrote: > I get this warning when installing (upgrading) LyX via Homebrew: > > Warning: lyx has been deprecated because it does not pass the macOS > Gatekeeper check! It will be disabled on 2026-09-01. > > Not that it bothers me, nor that I even understand this, but I thought I > report it. M4 MacBookAir 26.3. Real problem which we did not agree how to fix yet. IIRC the solutions seen: 1) someone creates homebrew formula to build mac binaries from source. 2) pay ransom to Apple to "certify" our package. 3) ask some other dev from TeX-osphere with existing account to sign for us. Option 2 is probably easiset and most generic but also most morally doubtful. https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg225671.html Pavel -- lyx-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
