Re: [Marxism] Comeytose in Washington

2017-05-13 Thread Carl G. Estabrook via Marxism
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Requiescat in pace.

> On May 13, 2017, at 6:44 PM, Louis Proyect  wrote:
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> On 5/13/17 7:37 PM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote:
>> Didn’t realize the discussion was theological. Thought it was political. 
>> Will adjust the register.
> 
> Just as theological as Hugo Chavez who said the UN General Assembly hall 
> smelled like sulfur the day after George W. Bush spoke.


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Re: [Marxism] Comeytose in Washington

2017-05-13 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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On 5/13/17 7:37 PM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote:

Didn’t realize the discussion was theological. Thought it was political. Will 
adjust the register.


Just as theological as Hugo Chavez who said the UN General Assembly hall 
smelled like sulfur the day after George W. Bush spoke.

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Re: [Marxism] Comeytose in Washington

2017-05-13 Thread Carl G. Estabrook via Marxism
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Didn’t realize the discussion was theological. Thought it was political. Will 
adjust the register.

—CGE

> On May 13, 2017, at 6:25 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism 
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> On 5/13/17 6:44 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Marxism wrote:
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>> There were indications this week (in addition to to the firing of
>> Comey) that that was happening, viz.,
>> 
>> Russia -
>> > >;
>> and
> 
> 
> 
> I got a chuckle out of this from the article linked above:
> 
>   Therefore, Trump has retrieved his road map from the attic. The 
> presence of Henry Kissinger in the Oval Office for an unscheduled meeting 
> with Trump just before Lavrov walked in – accompanied by the famous “Russian 
> spy” Ambassador Sergey Kislayk – has been a deliberate ‘curtain raiser’. 
> Kissinger has longstanding personal equations with Russia’s President 
> Vladimir Putin, and of course the grey cardinal of US diplomacy had 
> engineered the era of détente with the Soviet Union.
> 
> ---
> 
> So fascinating how people like Carl, Paul Craig Roberts, Michael Hudson, Mike 
> Whitney, Diana Johnstone and Boris Kagarlitsky can get so enthused over Trump 
> and Putin becoming our age's Nixon and Mao. Kissinger was key to the first 
> rapprochement and seems to be key to the new one.
> 
> Under ordinary circumstances, people on the left understand that where 
> Kissinger goes, Satan follows close behind. But when you decide to 
> automatically put a plus where Nicholas Kristof puts a minus, the results 
> stagger the imagination.
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Re: [Marxism] Comeytose in Washington

2017-05-13 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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On 5/13/17 6:44 PM, Carl G. Estabrook via Marxism wrote:


There were indications this week (in addition to to the firing of
Comey) that that was happening, viz.,

Russia -
>;
and




I got a chuckle out of this from the article linked above:

	Therefore, Trump has retrieved his road map from the attic. The 
presence of Henry Kissinger in the Oval Office for an unscheduled 
meeting with Trump just before Lavrov walked in – accompanied by the 
famous “Russian spy” Ambassador Sergey Kislayk – has been a deliberate 
‘curtain raiser’. Kissinger has longstanding personal equations with 
Russia’s President Vladimir Putin, and of course the grey cardinal of US 
diplomacy had engineered the era of détente with the Soviet Union.


---

So fascinating how people like Carl, Paul Craig Roberts, Michael Hudson, 
Mike Whitney, Diana Johnstone and Boris Kagarlitsky can get so enthused 
over Trump and Putin becoming our age's Nixon and Mao. Kissinger was key 
to the first rapprochement and seems to be key to the new one.


Under ordinary circumstances, people on the left understand that where 
Kissinger goes, Satan follows close behind. But when you decide to 
automatically put a plus where Nicholas Kristof puts a minus, the 
results stagger the imagination.

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Re: [Marxism] Comeytose in Washington

2017-05-13 Thread Carl G. Estabrook via Marxism
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The protests and ‘#resistance’ to Trump are largely inspired by the political 
establishment (Democrats-neocons-Pentagon-spooks etc.) who think their 
right-to-rule was illegitimately denied by Trump’s election. 

They will be even more enraged if the essential policies of their 
pro-war/pro-Wall Street politics - hostility to Russia and China - are reversed 
by the Trump administration.

There were indications this week (in addition to to the firing of Comey) that 
that was happening, viz.,

Russia - 
>;
 and

China - 
>.

—CGE


> On May 13, 2017, at 9:13 AM, John Reimann via Marxism 
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> "The FBI is apparently hot on the redolent trails of lucre left by Michael
> Flynn
> 
> and Paul Manafort
> ,
> which confirms my suspicion that the real scandal isn’t Russian meddling in
> the 2016 elections but shady financial dealings by Trump’s dubious
> ensemble of associates."
> 
> From the Jacobin article. But the issue goes way beyond that. There's a
> reason why so many present and former Trump team members are tied in with
> not only the Putin regime but also with different Russian corporations
> (such as Gazprom). The reason is that Trump, himself, has longstanding and
> deep ties to Russian investors. And given the nature of Russian capitalism,
> many of these investors are outright mobsters. In other words, the Russian
> mafia. One of the most prominent is Felix Sater, but there are others too.
> Sater, a convicted stock swindler, for example had a business card that
> linked his name with Trump, traveled with Trump and is pictured with Trump.
> Yet he's so unsavory that Trump denied even remembering him.
> 
> However, let's not go all "anti-Russian". Trump's personal helicopter
> pilot, Joseph Weichselbaum, was also a convicted drug smuggler.
> 
> This is what's really scaring Trump - that any investigation into Russia's
> role in the recent US elections would tend to spill over into revelations
> of his direct financial ties. (My belief: That's the real reason Trump
> won't release his tax statements; it would reveal those ties.)
> 
> And why don't the Democrats reveal some of this? Because former Obama
> Justice Department officials as well as former FBI agents are also involved
> in this network!
> 
> See this article for the details:
> https://oaklandsocialist.com/2017/04/04/mobster-in-chief-donald-trump-life-imitates-art/
> 
> 
> John Reimann
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Re: [Marxism] Comeytose in Washington

2017-05-13 Thread John Reimann via Marxism
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"The FBI is apparently hot on the redolent trails of lucre left by Michael
Flynn

 and Paul Manafort
,
which confirms my suspicion that the real scandal isn’t Russian meddling in
the 2016 elections but shady financial dealings by Trump’s dubious
ensemble of associates."

From the Jacobin article. But the issue goes way beyond that. There's a
reason why so many present and former Trump team members are tied in with
not only the Putin regime but also with different Russian corporations
(such as Gazprom). The reason is that Trump, himself, has longstanding and
deep ties to Russian investors. And given the nature of Russian capitalism,
many of these investors are outright mobsters. In other words, the Russian
mafia. One of the most prominent is Felix Sater, but there are others too.
Sater, a convicted stock swindler, for example had a business card that
linked his name with Trump, traveled with Trump and is pictured with Trump.
Yet he's so unsavory that Trump denied even remembering him.

However, let's not go all "anti-Russian". Trump's personal helicopter
pilot, Joseph Weichselbaum, was also a convicted drug smuggler.

This is what's really scaring Trump - that any investigation into Russia's
role in the recent US elections would tend to spill over into revelations
of his direct financial ties. (My belief: That's the real reason Trump
won't release his tax statements; it would reveal those ties.)

And why don't the Democrats reveal some of this? Because former Obama
Justice Department officials as well as former FBI agents are also involved
in this network!

See this article for the details:
https://oaklandsocialist.com/2017/04/04/mobster-in-chief-donald-trump-life-imitates-art/


John Reimann
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