Haha, really... what's so wrong about starting another technology? I
actually think it is one of the strongest points of the Java communtiy that
there are so many. Gives people choice (after all, why should Maverick have
been started when there was Struts), and the competition makes open source
developpers think harder about their added value in open source space.
Eelco
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Dane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Mav-user] a new view
> Doug Kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hmmm...I don't want to rain on any parades, but I'm just wondering why
> > you didn't want to use Velocity, as it accomplishes the same thing and
> > it's already written and well-supported?
>
> I do use Velocity, and am happy with it in the contexts in which I
> use it.
>
> However, it didn't seem to quite fit here. I wanted the source pages
> to be plain old HTML, to the greatest extent possible. So consider
> something like a role-sensitive navigation bar. rather than
>
> #if ($user.inRole('admin'))
> <a href=''>AdminFunctions</a>
> #end
> #if ($user.inRole('manager'))
> <a href=''>ManagerFunction</a>
> #end
> ...
>
> I wanted
>
> <a href='' ctl:if='${user.inRole("admin")}'>Admin Functions</a>
> ...
>
> Also, I wanted to be able to leverage XML tools (XSLT) in interesting
> ways. If the control elements are expressed in XML, then I could
> (for example) pass a template containing a looping construct through
> an appropriate stylesheet (I'm referring here to an offline process)
> and get a reasonable looking mockup.
>
> Another thing: I figured I'd be using XSLT at runtime. Both JSP and
> vanilla Velocity are what you might call "text oriented". Meaning
> that the results of a template evaluation or JSP page evaluation
> would have to be reparsed as XML on every request. I wanted to avoid
> that overhead.
>
> Certainly I could have used Velocity. I'm not terribly proud of
> having increased the number of Java web technologies, and I always
> figured I could resist the urge when it came upon me. But it turned
> out I was wrong.
>
> --
>
> joe
>
>
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