RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

2004-08-09 Thread Yurii Urazlin
Thanks a lot for this release and very clear example.

Attached is DevelopmentControllerFactory that should be used during
development only. It allows on-the-fly redefinition of controller
classes and faster redeployment of really big web applications using
Maverick. For details, plz, read Java Docs in
DevelopmentControllerFactory.java.

Since base controller class of my apps extends throwaway bean, it's
tested using throwaways only. Anyway, I hope it is of value for someone.


Thanks,
Yuri.

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Hillenius
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 11:44 PM
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Subject: RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

Ok, that's done. A new release is out now, supporting a pluggable
controller
factory. Note that one of the other changes for this release is the
dependency on Commons Logging instead of Log4J.

I also included an example of how to use a custom controller factory in
the
manual.

Have fun!

Eelco

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Sent: zondag 27 juni 2004 11:28
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Subject: RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin


I'll look into making the controller factory pluggable today - if the
original authors do not mind? If it can be done without messing up too
much
code, I will include it in the next release. I'll keep in touch via this
list.

Eelco 

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Sent: zondag 13 juni 2004 18:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin


If you could change controller (say, add another getXxx method), compile
it,
and see changes on-the-fly without need to reload anything, then, I
think,
your productivity could be higher, just like it could be with use of
very
neat eclipse plug-in.

I think that 'reloading' is used here in 2 different senses, because I
don't
see the way to reload controller classes without custom implementation
of
ControllerFactory (patch). I mean reloading as it's described here, in
chapter 3.1: http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/liang98dynamic.html


BTW, aside from productivity improvements, I also have another
application
for pluggable controller factory: I'd like to have ability to create
controller instances with dynaop.

Yuri.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eelco
Hillenius
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 3:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

[...]

Now about the pluggable controller factory. Actually that has been the
only
functionality in Maverick I found lacking myself. On the other hand I -
and
you too in this case - could just use the reload command to
re-initialise
the controllers, so I never realy considered proposing a patch.

Eelco

- Original Message - 
From: Yurii Urazlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin


Greetings,

Sorry, but I don't think that it should be in plug-in.

1. With IDEA you can click class name in XML files and it will open its
source. Probably, Eclipse itself should provide this functionality?

2. If you use unpacked web-app and disabled caching in
XSLTransformFactory,
than you do not have to re-deploy anything. You just change it, and it
is
used.


I think that there is sense in using adaptive classloader for
throwaways. It
would reload controller classes as they change without redeployment. If
there was pluggable ControllerFactory, I could provide a patch.

Yuri.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Hernandez
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

What about using the config file to help navigate to the controller
classes.
It would be nice to be able to see your project space in terms of the
commands and controllers, and then to navigate to the source files
associated with them. Just an idea...

Also, if you are using xsl stuff (with domify) it would be great if the
tool
could pick up the xml transform data at various steps and do local
(development) transforms with the xsl sources without having to deploy
to
the app server. Then you could do front-end presentation testing, html
validation and such, in eclipse without having to deploy new version of
the
application. If this doesn't make sense I write in a little more detail,
just let me know.




- Original Message - 
From: Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I'm kind of working on an Eclipse plugin for Maverick. After making
some
 contributions for the Jetty Plugin (http://spindle.sourceforge.net) I
 decided that now is the time to really learn how to write them
properly.
 Right now, the plugin does some pretty printing of the Maverick config
file,
 and displays it's structure in the outline view a little bit smarter
than
 just

RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

2004-06-27 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I'll look into making the controller factory pluggable today - if the
original authors do not mind? If it can be done without messing up too much
code, I will include it in the next release. I'll keep in touch via this
list.

Eelco 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yurii Urazlin
Sent: zondag 13 juni 2004 18:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin


If you could change controller (say, add another getXxx method), compile it,
and see changes on-the-fly without need to reload anything, then, I think,
your productivity could be higher, just like it could be with use of very
neat eclipse plug-in.

I think that 'reloading' is used here in 2 different senses, because I don't
see the way to reload controller classes without custom implementation of
ControllerFactory (patch). I mean reloading as it's described here, in
chapter 3.1: http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/liang98dynamic.html


BTW, aside from productivity improvements, I also have another application
for pluggable controller factory: I'd like to have ability to create
controller instances with dynaop.

Yuri.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eelco Hillenius
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 3:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

[...]

Now about the pluggable controller factory. Actually that has been the only
functionality in Maverick I found lacking myself. On the other hand I - and
you too in this case - could just use the reload command to re-initialise
the controllers, so I never realy considered proposing a patch.

Eelco

- Original Message - 
From: Yurii Urazlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin


Greetings,

Sorry, but I don't think that it should be in plug-in.

1. With IDEA you can click class name in XML files and it will open its
source. Probably, Eclipse itself should provide this functionality?

2. If you use unpacked web-app and disabled caching in XSLTransformFactory,
than you do not have to re-deploy anything. You just change it, and it is
used.


I think that there is sense in using adaptive classloader for throwaways. It
would reload controller classes as they change without redeployment. If
there was pluggable ControllerFactory, I could provide a patch.

Yuri.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Hernandez
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

What about using the config file to help navigate to the controller classes.
It would be nice to be able to see your project space in terms of the
commands and controllers, and then to navigate to the source files
associated with them. Just an idea...

Also, if you are using xsl stuff (with domify) it would be great if the tool
could pick up the xml transform data at various steps and do local
(development) transforms with the xsl sources without having to deploy to
the app server. Then you could do front-end presentation testing, html
validation and such, in eclipse without having to deploy new version of the
application. If this doesn't make sense I write in a little more detail,
just let me know.




- Original Message - 
From: Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I'm kind of working on an Eclipse plugin for Maverick. After making
some
 contributions for the Jetty Plugin (http://spindle.sourceforge.net) I 
 decided that now is the time to really learn how to write them
properly.
 Right now, the plugin does some pretty printing of the Maverick config
file,
 and displays it's structure in the outline view a little bit smarter
than
 just the XML outline.

 Does anyone have any good ideas for a useful Maverick plugin (or...
are
 people interested in such a plugin at all?).

 Eelco



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RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

2004-06-27 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Ok, that's done. A new release is out now, supporting a pluggable controller
factory. Note that one of the other changes for this release is the
dependency on Commons Logging instead of Log4J.

I also included an example of how to use a custom controller factory in the
manual.

Have fun!

Eelco

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eelco Hillenius
Sent: zondag 27 juni 2004 11:28
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin


I'll look into making the controller factory pluggable today - if the
original authors do not mind? If it can be done without messing up too much
code, I will include it in the next release. I'll keep in touch via this
list.

Eelco 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yurii Urazlin
Sent: zondag 13 juni 2004 18:05
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin


If you could change controller (say, add another getXxx method), compile it,
and see changes on-the-fly without need to reload anything, then, I think,
your productivity could be higher, just like it could be with use of very
neat eclipse plug-in.

I think that 'reloading' is used here in 2 different senses, because I don't
see the way to reload controller classes without custom implementation of
ControllerFactory (patch). I mean reloading as it's described here, in
chapter 3.1: http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/liang98dynamic.html


BTW, aside from productivity improvements, I also have another application
for pluggable controller factory: I'd like to have ability to create
controller instances with dynaop.

Yuri.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eelco Hillenius
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 3:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

[...]

Now about the pluggable controller factory. Actually that has been the only
functionality in Maverick I found lacking myself. On the other hand I - and
you too in this case - could just use the reload command to re-initialise
the controllers, so I never realy considered proposing a patch.

Eelco

- Original Message - 
From: Yurii Urazlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin


Greetings,

Sorry, but I don't think that it should be in plug-in.

1. With IDEA you can click class name in XML files and it will open its
source. Probably, Eclipse itself should provide this functionality?

2. If you use unpacked web-app and disabled caching in XSLTransformFactory,
than you do not have to re-deploy anything. You just change it, and it is
used.


I think that there is sense in using adaptive classloader for throwaways. It
would reload controller classes as they change without redeployment. If
there was pluggable ControllerFactory, I could provide a patch.

Yuri.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Hernandez
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

What about using the config file to help navigate to the controller classes.
It would be nice to be able to see your project space in terms of the
commands and controllers, and then to navigate to the source files
associated with them. Just an idea...

Also, if you are using xsl stuff (with domify) it would be great if the tool
could pick up the xml transform data at various steps and do local
(development) transforms with the xsl sources without having to deploy to
the app server. Then you could do front-end presentation testing, html
validation and such, in eclipse without having to deploy new version of the
application. If this doesn't make sense I write in a little more detail,
just let me know.




- Original Message - 
From: Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I'm kind of working on an Eclipse plugin for Maverick. After making
some
 contributions for the Jetty Plugin (http://spindle.sourceforge.net) I
 decided that now is the time to really learn how to write them
properly.
 Right now, the plugin does some pretty printing of the Maverick config
file,
 and displays it's structure in the outline view a little bit smarter
than
 just the XML outline.

 Does anyone have any good ideas for a useful Maverick plugin (or...
are
 people interested in such a plugin at all?).

 Eelco



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RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

2004-06-26 Thread Yurii Urazlin
If you could change controller (say, add another getXxx method), compile
it, and see changes on-the-fly without need to reload anything, then, I
think, your productivity could be higher, just like it could be with use
of very neat eclipse plug-in.

I think that 'reloading' is used here in 2 different senses, because I
don't see the way to reload controller classes without custom
implementation of ControllerFactory (patch). I mean reloading as it's
described here, in chapter 3.1:
http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/liang98dynamic.html


BTW, aside from productivity improvements, I also have another
application for pluggable controller factory: I'd like to have ability
to create controller instances with dynaop.

Yuri.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eelco
Hillenius
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 3:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

[...]

Now about the pluggable controller factory. Actually that has been the
only
functionality in Maverick I found lacking myself. On the other hand I -
and
you too in this case - could just use the reload command to
re-initialise
the controllers, so I never realy considered proposing a patch.

Eelco

- Original Message - 
From: Yurii Urazlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin


Greetings,

Sorry, but I don't think that it should be in plug-in.

1. With IDEA you can click class name in XML files and it will open its
source. Probably, Eclipse itself should provide this functionality?

2. If you use unpacked web-app and disabled caching in
XSLTransformFactory, than you do not have to re-deploy anything. You
just change it, and it is used.


I think that there is sense in using adaptive classloader for
throwaways. It would reload controller classes as they change without
redeployment. If there was pluggable ControllerFactory, I could provide
a patch.

Yuri.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Hernandez
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

What about using the config file to help navigate to the controller
classes.
It would be nice to be able to see your project space in terms of the
commands and controllers, and then to navigate to the source files
associated with them. Just an idea...

Also, if you are using xsl stuff (with domify) it would be great if the
tool
could pick up the xml transform data at various steps and do local
(development) transforms with the xsl sources without having to deploy
to
the app server. Then you could do front-end presentation testing, html
validation and such, in eclipse without having to deploy new version of
the
application. If this doesn't make sense I write in a little more detail,
just let me know.




- Original Message - 
From: Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I'm kind of working on an Eclipse plugin for Maverick. After making
some
 contributions for the Jetty Plugin (http://spindle.sourceforge.net) I
 decided that now is the time to really learn how to write them
properly.
 Right now, the plugin does some pretty printing of the Maverick config
file,
 and displays it's structure in the outline view a little bit smarter
than
 just the XML outline.

 Does anyone have any good ideas for a useful Maverick plugin (or...
are
 people interested in such a plugin at all?).

 Eelco



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Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

2004-06-13 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I developped a first scratch that is like an XML editor - of which there are
several useful plugins available, and probably will be part of the Eclipse
distro sometime
(http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-webtools/index.html). However, it
is a little bit smarter about views e.g. and potential functionality would
be direct navigation to a defined controller class (you F3 in Java source
files).

But... too many other projects, too much hours of paid work to do, too many
hobbies and festival season is here. I have stopped developping it and will
not pick it up again either, as I think the rate of time I have to invest in
it and it's general usefullness is not favorable enough.

Now about the pluggable controller factory. Actually that has been the only
functionality in Maverick I found lacking myself. On the other hand I - and
you too in this case - could just use the reload command to re-initialise
the controllers, so I never realy considered proposing a patch.

Eelco

- Original Message - 
From: Yurii Urazlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin


Greetings,

Sorry, but I don't think that it should be in plug-in.

1. With IDEA you can click class name in XML files and it will open its
source. Probably, Eclipse itself should provide this functionality?

2. If you use unpacked web-app and disabled caching in
XSLTransformFactory, than you do not have to re-deploy anything. You
just change it, and it is used.


I think that there is sense in using adaptive classloader for
throwaways. It would reload controller classes as they change without
redeployment. If there was pluggable ControllerFactory, I could provide
a patch.

Yuri.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Hernandez
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

What about using the config file to help navigate to the controller
classes.
It would be nice to be able to see your project space in terms of the
commands and controllers, and then to navigate to the source files
associated with them. Just an idea...

Also, if you are using xsl stuff (with domify) it would be great if the
tool
could pick up the xml transform data at various steps and do local
(development) transforms with the xsl sources without having to deploy
to
the app server. Then you could do front-end presentation testing, html
validation and such, in eclipse without having to deploy new version of
the
application. If this doesn't make sense I write in a little more detail,
just let me know.




- Original Message - 
From: Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I'm kind of working on an Eclipse plugin for Maverick. After making
some
 contributions for the Jetty Plugin (http://spindle.sourceforge.net) I
 decided that now is the time to really learn how to write them
properly.
 Right now, the plugin does some pretty printing of the Maverick config
file,
 and displays it's structure in the outline view a little bit smarter
than
 just the XML outline.

 Does anyone have any good ideas for a useful Maverick plugin (or...
are
 people interested in such a plugin at all?).

 Eelco



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RE: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

2004-06-12 Thread Yurii Urazlin
Greetings,

Sorry, but I don't think that it should be in plug-in.

1. With IDEA you can click class name in XML files and it will open its
source. Probably, Eclipse itself should provide this functionality?

2. If you use unpacked web-app and disabled caching in
XSLTransformFactory, than you do not have to re-deploy anything. You
just change it, and it is used.


I think that there is sense in using adaptive classloader for
throwaways. It would reload controller classes as they change without
redeployment. If there was pluggable ControllerFactory, I could provide
a patch.

Yuri.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Hernandez
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 1:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

What about using the config file to help navigate to the controller
classes.
It would be nice to be able to see your project space in terms of the
commands and controllers, and then to navigate to the source files
associated with them. Just an idea...

Also, if you are using xsl stuff (with domify) it would be great if the
tool
could pick up the xml transform data at various steps and do local
(development) transforms with the xsl sources without having to deploy
to
the app server. Then you could do front-end presentation testing, html
validation and such, in eclipse without having to deploy new version of
the
application. If this doesn't make sense I write in a little more detail,
just let me know.




- Original Message - 
From: Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I'm kind of working on an Eclipse plugin for Maverick. After making
some
 contributions for the Jetty Plugin (http://spindle.sourceforge.net) I
 decided that now is the time to really learn how to write them
properly.
 Right now, the plugin does some pretty printing of the Maverick config
file,
 and displays it's structure in the outline view a little bit smarter
than
 just the XML outline.

 Does anyone have any good ideas for a useful Maverick plugin (or...
are
 people interested in such a plugin at all?).

 Eelco



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Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

2004-06-01 Thread Scott Hernandez
What about using the config file to help navigate to the controller classes.
It would be nice to be able to see your project space in terms of the
commands and controllers, and then to navigate to the source files
associated with them. Just an idea...

Also, if you are using xsl stuff (with domify) it would be great if the tool
could pick up the xml transform data at various steps and do local
(development) transforms with the xsl sources without having to deploy to
the app server. Then you could do front-end presentation testing, html
validation and such, in eclipse without having to deploy new version of the
application. If this doesn't make sense I write in a little more detail,
just let me know.


- Original Message - 
From: Eelco Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I'm kind of working on an Eclipse plugin for Maverick. After making some
 contributions for the Jetty Plugin (http://spindle.sourceforge.net) I
 decided that now is the time to really learn how to write them properly.
 Right now, the plugin does some pretty printing of the Maverick config
file,
 and displays it's structure in the outline view a little bit smarter than
 just the XML outline.

 Does anyone have any good ideas for a useful Maverick plugin (or... are
 people interested in such a plugin at all?).

 Eelco



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