[meteorite-list] California

2025-01-08 Thread John Lutzon via Meteorite-list


My thoughts and prayers are to the souls currently enduring the tragedies 
occurring in California. It's an unimaginable scenario.
John
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[meteorite-list] California fireball

2020-09-12 Thread E.P. Grondine via Meteorite-list
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1333071/meteor-video-california-asteroids-NEO-earth-space-n

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all the best, 
E.P.
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[meteorite-list] California Meteor Approx. 1900 PST 29DEC2014

2014-12-29 Thread drtanuki via Meteorite-list
List,

California Meteor Approx. 1900 PST 29DEC2014
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/12/california-meteor-29dec2014.html

Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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[meteorite-list] California Meteor =2015 PST 25NOV2014 widely seen

2014-11-25 Thread drtanuki via Meteorite-list
List,
California Meteor =2015 PST 25NOV2014 - widely seen
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/11/california-meteor-25nov2014.html

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[meteorite-list] California Meteor 2200 PDT 20JUN2014

2014-06-21 Thread drtanuki via Meteorite-list
List,
California Meteor 2200 PDT 20JUN2014
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/06/california-meteor-20jun2014.html

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[meteorite-list] California Meteor Approximately 1800 PST 10JAN2014 with Fragmentation

2014-01-10 Thread drtanuki
List,

California Meteor Approximately 1800 PST 10JAN2014 with Fragmentation

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/01/california-meteor-10jan2014.html


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Re: [meteorite-list] California Meteor/s 07NOV2013

2013-11-09 Thread Jodie Reynolds
For those interested:  The actual observed start time for the
northern California event from Sacramento, CA was 07-Nov-2013 @
22:25:36, moving out of the SW to the W.  The witless statements were
all over the board on time, so figured I'd shorten your search down
so you don't waste hours of your life that you'll never get back -
like I did. ;-(

My video capture is up on Dirk's site.  [ 38.5607, -121.319, ~30M
ASL+AGL ]

--- Jodie

Friday, November 8, 2013, 2:37:46 AM, you wrote:

> List,
> California Meteor/s 07NOV2013

> http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/11/ca-meteor-07nov2013.html
>   
> Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Best regards,
 Jodiemailto:[email protected]

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[meteorite-list] California Meteor/s 07NOV2013

2013-11-08 Thread drtanuki
List,
California Meteor/s 07NOV2013

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/11/ca-meteor-07nov2013.html
  
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] California long duration meteor 22AUG2013

2013-08-25 Thread Chris Peterson
Duration is not a reliable way to distinguish between meteors and space 
junk. You can only do that using velocity, which is difficult to do from 
one vantage point. I've recorded re-entering debris that only glowed for 
a few seconds.


Chris

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On 8/25/2013 6:46 AM, [email protected] wrote:



Twenty seconds?  Sounds like  re-entry debris.  Anyone else?>>


too short in duration for  re-entry debris...
geozay


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Re: [meteorite-list] California long duration meteor 22AUG2013

2013-08-24 Thread GeoZay

>>Twenty seconds?  Sounds like  re-entry debris.  Anyone else?>>

too short in duration for  re-entry debris...
geozay  

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Re: [meteorite-list] California long duration meteor 22AUG2013

2013-08-24 Thread Richard Montgomery

Twenty seconds?  Sounds like re-entry debris.  Anyone else?
Richard M


- Original Message - 
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To: "meteorite-list" 
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 11:01 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] California long duration meteor 22AUG2013


List,
IF this was not a rocket launch we just had a 10-20 sec meteor event over 
California.

California long duration meteor apprx. 21'56 PDT 22AUG2013

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/08/california-fireball-meteor-22aug2013.html


Twitter checkers go to work.

Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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[meteorite-list] California long duration meteor 22AUG2013

2013-08-22 Thread drtanuki
List,
  IF this was not a rocket launch we just had a 10-20 sec meteor event over 
California.
California long duration meteor apprx. 21'56 PDT 22AUG2013

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/08/california-fireball-meteor-22aug2013.html


Twitter checkers go to work.

Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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[meteorite-list] California Meteor approx. 21'40 PDT 16JUL2013

2013-07-17 Thread drtanuki
List,

California Meteor approx. 21'40 PDT 16JUL2013
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/07/california-meteor-16jul2013.html


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[meteorite-list] California Bolide 21FEB2013

2013-02-21 Thread drtanuki
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/02/california-bolide-fireball-meteor.html

Sorry List, Another!  Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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[meteorite-list] California Meteor 15FEB2013 video posted

2013-02-15 Thread drtanuki
Dear List,
California Meteor 15FEB2013 video posted
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/02/california-usa-meteor-15feb2013.html

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[meteorite-list] California Meteor 15FEB2013 Sighting Map

2013-02-15 Thread drtanuki
List,

There are several reports and a sighting map posted:
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/02/california-usa-meteor-15feb2013.html

Thank you!  Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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[meteorite-list] California Meteor 27DEC2012

2012-12-27 Thread drtanuki
List,  There was an early morning event seen in California.  I have received 
four reports thus far.
California Meteor ~6:15 am PST 27DEC2012
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2012/12/california-meteor-27dec2012.html

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[meteorite-list] California meteorite a scientific gold mine

2012-12-21 Thread Paul H.
Meteorite fragments found in El Dorado County excite 
scientists, Sacramento Bee, December 21, 2012
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/12/21/5069221/meteorite-fragments-found-in-el.html

California meteorite a scientific gold mine (Sutter’s Mill 
rock preserves rare, fresh material from outer space)
by Alexandra Witzem, Science News, December 21, 2012
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/347199/description/California_meteorite_a_scientific_gold_mine
and http://www.seti.org/node/1542

Partly Cloudy with a Chance of Meteorites, Astrobiology
http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/5235/partly-cloudy-with-a-chance-of-meteorites

Western University astronomers part of massive NASA 
meteorite discovery at Sutter's Mill, Western University
http://spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=39599

The paper is:

Jenniskens, P., and others, 2012, Radar-enabled recovery 
of the Sutter’s Mill meteorite, a carbonaceous chondrite 
regolith breccia. Science. vol. 338, p. 1583-1587
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/338/6114/1583.full

best wishes,

Paul H.

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[meteorite-list] California Meteorite: Space Rocks Found By Collector

2012-04-26 Thread Jimski47
_http://www.universetoday.com/94828/meteorite-hunters-find-fragments-from-th
e-recent-daytime-fireball-in-california/_ 
(http://www.universetoday.com/94828/meteorite-hunters-find-fragments-from-the-recent-daytime-fireball-in-calif
ornia/) 

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[meteorite-list] California Meteorite: Space Rocks Found By Collector

2012-04-26 Thread Jimski47
_http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/26/california-meteorite-collector-sol
ar-system_n_1455107.html?ref=science&icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl
24%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D155507_ 
(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/26/california-meteorite-collector-solar-system_n_1455107.html?ref=science&icid=ma
ing-grid10|htmlws-main-bb|dl24|sec1_lnk2&pLid=155507) 
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[meteorite-list] California fall photos

2012-04-25 Thread Bob King
Hi everyone,
In case some of you don't do Facebook, I wrote a short blog on the new
fall with a couple photos graciously provided by Dave Gheesling. It's
at: www.astrobob.areavoices.com

Happy hunting,
Bob
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[meteorite-list] California Meteor? 10MAR2012 at ~7:15 pm PST

2012-03-10 Thread drtanuki
Dear List,
California Meteor? 10MAR2012 at ~7:15 pm PST:
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2012/03/california-meteor-fireball-10mar2012.html
It has not been confirmed that this was in fact a meteor or whether it was a 
launch that was seen.
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] California and Oregon Iron Meteorite Slices Available on Ebay - 99 Cent Starts

2011-11-10 Thread Linton Rohr

Greetings Patrick and list inhabitors.
Interesting info on the Red Rock find, per the MetBull...
"Found about 1976 by R.K. Haag while hunting for rabbits."
Red Rock is one of my favorite dark sky observing sites.
I haven't come across any Haag's there yet... Robert, or otherwise. ;^)
Linton


- Original Message - 
From: "Patrick Thompson" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 5:28 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] California and Oregon Iron Meteorite Slices 
Available on Ebay - 99 Cent Starts




Greetings list members,

Just a quick note to let you know I have listed some beautiful slices
of Red Rock, California Iron meteorite with 99 cent minimum starting
bid on eBay.
In addition, there are some other great hard to find items like
Klamath Falls, Oregon IIIF Iron slices, awesome howardite slices with
black carbonaceous inclusions, and more.

Follow this link to check out the items:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/thecooleststuff_503/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686

Thank you very much!

Best wishes,

Patrick Thompson
eBay ID:  thecooleststuff_ 503
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Re: [meteorite-list] California and Oregon Iron Meteorite Slices Available on Ebay - 99 Cent Starts

2011-11-09 Thread James Baxter
Hello all,

Everyone should check out Patrick's killer howardite NWA 6695. Those angular 
contrasting pitch black CM2 inclusions are phenomenal!

Best,
Jim Baxter
- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Thompson" 
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 5:28:16 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [meteorite-list] California and Oregon Iron Meteorite Slices Available 
on Ebay - 99 Cent Starts

Greetings list members,

Just a quick note to let you know I have listed some beautiful slices
of Red Rock, California Iron meteorite with 99 cent minimum starting
bid on eBay.
In addition, there are some other great hard to find items like
Klamath Falls, Oregon IIIF Iron slices, awesome howardite slices with
black carbonaceous inclusions, and more.

Follow this link to check out the items:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/thecooleststuff_503/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686

Thank you very much!

Best wishes,

Patrick Thompson
eBay ID:  thecooleststuff_ 503
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[meteorite-list] California and Oregon Iron Meteorite Slices Available on Ebay - 99 Cent Starts

2011-11-09 Thread Patrick Thompson
Greetings list members,

Just a quick note to let you know I have listed some beautiful slices
of Red Rock, California Iron meteorite with 99 cent minimum starting
bid on eBay.
In addition, there are some other great hard to find items like
Klamath Falls, Oregon IIIF Iron slices, awesome howardite slices with
black carbonaceous inclusions, and more.

Follow this link to check out the items:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/thecooleststuff_503/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686

Thank you very much!

Best wishes,

Patrick Thompson
eBay ID:  thecooleststuff_ 503
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[meteorite-list] California / Nevada Meteor Indicated 6SEP2011

2011-09-06 Thread drtanuki
Dear List,
California / Nevada Meteor Indicated 6SEP2011 - seeking confirmation.
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2011/09/mbiq-indicates-meteor-seen-in.html

Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] California Only Meteorite HammerStone UnderDozers

2011-06-01 Thread James Beauchamp
You and me both, John.

Even here in the central US that's a problem.  We just went through a new 
addition across the street here.  Same stories.  Nail guns starting at 0430 and 
not stopping until 10 PM.  Call the police, they respond with "We don't enforce 
that."  Call the city code enforcement, they just send you letters saying "No 
violation found.".

The pavers were the worst.  Paving trucks lined up our streets for hundreds of 
yards every morning at idle.  One of the neighbors had the guts to complain, so 
they started backing the trucks up into his yard.  He complained more, then got 
a letter from the paving company's lawyers that any more complaints to the city 
would result in a slander lawsuit.  It was real Al Capone stuff.

One morning about 0430, I hear loud thumps outside the house.  Thinking someone 
is kicking my side door in (or the neighbors) I whip into the garage (pistol at 
the ready) in my robe.  The sounds were coming from a construction crew 
pounding concrete forms by truck headlight.

A concrete truck guy told me later that the construction managers were behind 
schedule due to the recent rain.  So, he get's the cash/carry laborer crew 
together and tells them if the concrete base isn't ready to be set Thursday 
morning, he would have "all your asses" deported.  

Sad truth about the illegal immigration problem here.  It's not about rights, 
it's legalized slavery.  If they aren't citizens, they can pay them under the 
table and make them do whatever they want.  Get out of line or need that 
schedule slid to the left?  Just threaten them with jail and deportation back 
to the drug lords and they make things happen.

I only hope there's a warm place in hell for these people.
 


--- On Wed, 6/1/11, John.L.Cabassi  wrote:

> From: John.L.Cabassi 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] California Only Meteorite HammerStone 
> UnderDozers
> To: "'Michael Gilmer'" , "'drtanuki'" 
> 
> Cc: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, June 1, 2011, 9:46 PM
> G'Day Mark, Dirk, Mike and List
> I'm only a stone throw away from (no pun intended) from San
> Juan
> Capistrano. I ventured down there a few times to do some
> relic
> searching, but to get permission is very hard, but it's not
> inhospitable
> to hunting.  As for development, I have one going on
> across the road at
> the moment, the neighborhood vented concern but the money
> bags said they
> would be only single family homes and would not increase
> traffic. Well
> the traffic has increased ten fold, now they're 3 story New
> York style
> lofts. Can't trust anybody these days. I know the economy
> is bad and
> people need to make a buck, but they're not the ones
> responsible, it's
> the land developers. Damn, I called the police the other
> night because
> they were working till 9.00pm, should have finished at 7pm
> and the cops
> just blew me off. 
> 
> But Mark, I'll make a call and see what I can do.
> 
> Cheers
> John Cabassi
> IMCA # 2125
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of
> Michael Gilmer
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 7:12 PM
> To: drtanuki
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] California Only Meteorite
> HammerStone
> UnderDozers
> 
> 
> Hi Marc, Dirk and List,
> 
> I am unfamiliar with the terrain in this area - is it good
> for meteorite
> hunting, or inhospitable to hunting?  Have any other
> stones
> ever been found?  (other than the initial
> finds)   An H6 chondrite is
> robust and resilient, so there could be more.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> MikeG
> 
> 
> -
> Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber
> (Michael Gilmer)
> 
> Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
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> Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
> EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564
> 
> -
> 
> On 6/1/11, drtanuki 
> wrote:
> > Dear Marc and List,  (Sorry this did not post
> earlier)
> > Thank you for your urgent plea.  The list may be
> unaware that this is 
> > California`s ONLY known HAMMER Meteorite and thus more
> "important" for
> 
> > some San Juan Capistrano
> > Capt. Blood does your ship 

Re: [meteorite-list] California Only Meteorite HammerStone UnderDozers

2011-06-01 Thread John.L.Cabassi
G'Day Mark, Dirk, Mike and List
I'm only a stone throw away from (no pun intended) from San Juan
Capistrano. I ventured down there a few times to do some relic
searching, but to get permission is very hard, but it's not inhospitable
to hunting.  As for development, I have one going on across the road at
the moment, the neighborhood vented concern but the money bags said they
would be only single family homes and would not increase traffic. Well
the traffic has increased ten fold, now they're 3 story New York style
lofts. Can't trust anybody these days. I know the economy is bad and
people need to make a buck, but they're not the ones responsible, it's
the land developers. Damn, I called the police the other night because
they were working till 9.00pm, should have finished at 7pm and the cops
just blew me off. 

But Mark, I'll make a call and see what I can do.

Cheers
John Cabassi
IMCA # 2125

-Original Message-
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Michael Gilmer
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 7:12 PM
To: drtanuki
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] California Only Meteorite HammerStone
UnderDozers


Hi Marc, Dirk and List,

I am unfamiliar with the terrain in this area - is it good for meteorite
hunting, or inhospitable to hunting?  Have any other stones
ever been found?  (other than the initial finds)   An H6 chondrite is
robust and resilient, so there could be more.

Best regards,

MikeG


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On 6/1/11, drtanuki  wrote:
> Dear Marc and List,  (Sorry this did not post earlier)
> Thank you for your urgent plea.  The list may be unaware that this is 
> California`s ONLY known HAMMER Meteorite and thus more "important" for

> some San Juan Capistrano
> Capt. Blood does your ship have a crew???
>
> MetSocBul entry http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=23128
>
> San Juan Capistrano H6
> FALL OF THE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO, CALIFORNIA, STONY METEORITE
> Name: SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO
> Place of fall: San Juan Capistrano, California, U.S.A. 33°29'05"N, 
> 117°39'45"W. Date of fall: March 15, 1973, between midnight and 0400, 
> Pacific Standard Time.
> Class and type: Stone. Olivine-bronzite chondrite (H6).
> Number of individual specimens: 2
> Total weight: 56g
> Circumstances of fall: The largest piece, 50.5 g, penetrated the
aluminum
> sheeting roof of a carport in a mobile-home park and was picked up on
the
> carport floor several hours later. The second smaller fragment, 5.5 g,
was
> discovered about one month after the fall in the gutter of the carport
roof.
> Source: R. C. Finkel, D. Lal and K. Marti. 1973. Cosmicray record in
the San
> Juan Capistrano meteorite. Meteoritics 8, 365.
>
> Best Regards,  Dirk Ross...Tokyo
>
>
> --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Marc Fries  wrote:
>
>> From: Marc Fries 
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] CA Meteorite fall site goes under the 
>> bulldozer
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 9:31 AM
>> Howdy all
>>
>> This isn't new news at this point, but the
>> site of the San Juan Capistrano meteorite fall is on its way to 
>> becoming a "172 acre mixed use development".  I've tried repeatedly 
>> to contact the developers and ask for permission to search for 
>> meteorites on the ground they clear, to no avail. I offered my time 
>> for free so they could donate any meteorites I found to local schools

>> and what-not, but they're not buying. The last time I called the 
>> secretary put me straight to voicemail. In case anyone else would 
>> like to try their hand at this, here's the company doing the
>> bulldozing:
>>
>> http://advancedonline.com/ares/
>>
>> Look under "current projects" for "The
>> Meadows at San Juan Capistrano".  They will be (already
>> are?) clearing land adjacent to the trailer park where the only 
>> pieces of SJC were recovered. Here's a Google Map centered on the 
>> Meteoritical Society database coords for the
>> fall:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3q5oaxa
>>
>> This development has met some

Re: [meteorite-list] California Only Meteorite HammerStone Under Dozers

2011-06-01 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi Marc, Dirk and List,

I am unfamiliar with the terrain in this area - is it good for
meteorite hunting, or inhospitable to hunting?  Have any other stones
ever been found?  (other than the initial finds)   An H6 chondrite is
robust and resilient, so there could be more.

Best regards,

MikeG

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Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
Facebook - 
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On 6/1/11, drtanuki  wrote:
> Dear Marc and List,  (Sorry this did not post earlier)
> Thank you for your urgent plea.  The list may be unaware that this is
> California`s ONLY known HAMMER Meteorite and thus more "important" for
> some
> San Juan Capistrano
> Capt. Blood does your ship have a crew???
>
> MetSocBul entry
> http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=23128
>
> San Juan Capistrano H6
> FALL OF THE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO, CALIFORNIA, STONY METEORITE
> Name: SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO
> Place of fall: San Juan Capistrano, California, U.S.A.
> 33°29'05"N, 117°39'45"W.
> Date of fall: March 15, 1973, between midnight and 0400, Pacific Standard
> Time.
> Class and type: Stone. Olivine-bronzite chondrite (H6).
> Number of individual specimens: 2
> Total weight: 56g
> Circumstances of fall: The largest piece, 50.5 g, penetrated the aluminum
> sheeting roof of a carport in a mobile-home park and was picked up on the
> carport floor several hours later. The second smaller fragment, 5.5 g, was
> discovered about one month after the fall in the gutter of the carport roof.
> Source: R. C. Finkel, D. Lal and K. Marti. 1973. Cosmicray record in the San
> Juan Capistrano meteorite. Meteoritics 8, 365.
>
> Best Regards,  Dirk Ross...Tokyo
>
>
> --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Marc Fries  wrote:
>
>> From: Marc Fries 
>> Subject: [meteorite-list] CA Meteorite fall site goes under the bulldozer
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 9:31 AM
>> Howdy all
>>
>> This isn't new news at this point, but the
>> site of the San Juan Capistrano meteorite fall is on its way
>> to becoming a "172 acre mixed use development".  I've
>> tried repeatedly to contact the developers and ask for
>> permission to search for meteorites on the ground they
>> clear, to no avail. I offered my time for free so they could
>> donate any meteorites I found to local schools and what-not,
>> but they're not buying. The last time I called the secretary
>> put me straight to voicemail. In case anyone else would like
>> to try their hand at this, here's the company doing the
>> bulldozing:
>>
>> http://advancedonline.com/ares/
>>
>> Look under "current projects" for "The
>> Meadows at San Juan Capistrano".  They will be (already
>> are?) clearing land adjacent to the trailer park where the
>> only pieces of SJC were recovered. Here's a Google Map
>> centered on the Meteoritical Society database coords for the
>> fall:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3q5oaxa
>>
>> This development has met some resistance in
>> the local community and was covered extensively by the local
>> media.  I do wonder how it would go over if the media
>> were made aware that this development will probably bury
>> meteorites from one of only two California falls.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Marc Fries
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[meteorite-list] California Only Meteorite HammerStone Under Dozers

2011-06-01 Thread drtanuki
Dear Marc and List,  (Sorry this did not post earlier)
Thank you for your urgent plea.  The list may be unaware that this is 
California`s ONLY known HAMMER Meteorite and thus more "important" for some
San Juan Capistrano
Capt. Blood does your ship have a crew???  

MetSocBul entry
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=23128

San Juan Capistrano H6
FALL OF THE SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO, CALIFORNIA, STONY METEORITE
Name: SAN JUAN CAPISTRANO
Place of fall: San Juan Capistrano, California, U.S.A.
33°29'05"N, 117°39'45"W.
Date of fall: March 15, 1973, between midnight and 0400, Pacific Standard Time.
Class and type: Stone. Olivine-bronzite chondrite (H6).
Number of individual specimens: 2
Total weight: 56g
Circumstances of fall: The largest piece, 50.5 g, penetrated the aluminum 
sheeting roof of a carport in a mobile-home park and was picked up on the 
carport floor several hours later. The second smaller fragment, 5.5 g, was 
discovered about one month after the fall in the gutter of the carport roof.
Source: R. C. Finkel, D. Lal and K. Marti. 1973. Cosmicray record in the San 
Juan Capistrano meteorite. Meteoritics 8, 365.

Best Regards,  Dirk Ross...Tokyo


--- On Thu, 6/2/11, Marc Fries  wrote:

> From: Marc Fries 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] CA Meteorite fall site goes under the bulldozer
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 9:31 AM
> Howdy all
> 
> This isn't new news at this point, but the
> site of the San Juan Capistrano meteorite fall is on its way
> to becoming a "172 acre mixed use development".  I've
> tried repeatedly to contact the developers and ask for
> permission to search for meteorites on the ground they
> clear, to no avail. I offered my time for free so they could
> donate any meteorites I found to local schools and what-not,
> but they're not buying. The last time I called the secretary
> put me straight to voicemail. In case anyone else would like
> to try their hand at this, here's the company doing the
> bulldozing:
> 
> http://advancedonline.com/ares/
> 
> Look under "current projects" for "The
> Meadows at San Juan Capistrano".  They will be (already
> are?) clearing land adjacent to the trailer park where the
> only pieces of SJC were recovered. Here's a Google Map
> centered on the Meteoritical Society database coords for the
> fall:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/3q5oaxa
> 
> This development has met some resistance in
> the local community and was covered extensively by the local
> media.  I do wonder how it would go over if the media
> were made aware that this development will probably bury
> meteorites from one of only two California falls.
> 
> Cheers,
> Marc Fries
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[meteorite-list] California Meteor March 15th, 2010

2010-03-17 Thread Mike Hankey
I saw this a few posts on twitter about this today. Have not seen this
posted to the list yet.

blobrana : Californian meteor: At 5:13 PDT, 15th March, 2010, a bright
fireball broke-up west of Yuba City, California. http://bit.ly/cEZepB
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[meteorite-list] California Fireball: New Meteorite Fall?

2008-12-29 Thread Eric Wichman

Anyone heard anything on this?

If so please post it here: 
http://www.meteoritesusa.com/blog/meteorite-news/california-fireball-new-meteorite-fall/


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Re: [meteorite-list] California Meteorite Discovery Video with Jim Kriegh.

2008-06-21 Thread Pete Pete



I had that same dream, many times!

Very envious.
Another great video.

I'd be interested in the dimensions of the fall pattern.
If it was as small as it appears in the video, would that be the result in a 
stone coming in very vertical?
Is this a fresh fall discovered in grounds hunted in the past?

I would also like to see or read about the description of the cut interior.
And of the fusion crust.

Thanks, Ruben.

Cheers,
Pete.









> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:08:55 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [meteorite-list] California Meteorite Discovery Video with Jim   
> Kriegh.
>
> Hi all,
> In this short video my son Ruben Garcia Jr. and I find nearly 20 pounds of 
> chondrite meteorites in a desolate California desert! For those of you that 
> knew Jim Kriegh, I was proud to have invited him along with us - it turned 
> out to be his very last meteorite hunt.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPEbHduUtZ0
>
> Ruben Garcia
> Phoenix, Arizona
> http://www.mr-meteorite.com
>
>
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[meteorite-list] California Meteorite Discovery Video with Jim Kriegh.

2008-06-19 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all,
In this short video my son Ruben Garcia Jr. and I find nearly 20 pounds of 
chondrite meteorites in a desolate California desert! For those of you that 
knew Jim Kriegh, I was proud to have invited him along with us - it turned out 
to be his very last meteorite hunt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPEbHduUtZ0

Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST - Final

2007-03-26 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy

Dear Ken, List;
Inquiring minds want to know, did my call of So. Utah/Henry Mountains 
stand the location test with the neighborhood wood expert?   I would 
brim with happiness to learn that one.

Woodly,
Dave F.

Norm Lehrman wrote:


Ken,

Congrats to you for pursuing this to a conclusion. 
They aren't always this receptive to dissenting

opinions.  Once in a while, it works, and helps to
restore a bit of our confidence.

Thanks,
Norm
http://TektiteSource.com

--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 


Norm and others,
I asked Mr. Rant to examine the specimen for growth
rings. He replied:

"Due to the interest by others and the quandary it
presents (experts are 
puzzled!) I have removed the item from eBay until a
qualified expert 
evaluates the stone.


"It never occurred to me that a local petrified wood
expert lives four 
houses down from me.  I called him up and asked if
he would give me his 
professional opinion to a problem stone in my
possession.  I just 
returned from a visit with him.


"He not only instantly recognized this specimen as
petrified wood but 
was able to give a close approximation of the type
of hardwood it was.  
He believes my specimen is from American Chestnut or
Giant Chinkapin.  
He described the cell structures as the reasons why
he believes that is 
what it is.


"I asked him if there was any doubt whatsoever in
his opinion, even one 
or two percent doubt.  Zero doubt--it is petrified
wood with 100 percent 
certainty!  The only doubt is the type of tree;
could certainly be wrong 
in that area of his opinion.


"So, you were persistent and hung in there.  Thank
you so much for 
helping me with this auction.  I will relay similar
information to those 
others who were also puzzled.  I was totally fooled
on this one, which 
will make me more aware next time.


"I will stick to selling what I am more comfortable
with from now 
on--you know, stuff with a label on it. :-) Best

regards, Kenneth Rank"

Norm, Thanks for solving this and restoring the
credibility of geologist 
worldwide (or until the next non-List geologist
deems an obvious 'wrong' 
to be a genuine meteorite :>)


Best,
ken



Norm Lehrman wrote:

   


Ken and list,

This image:
http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG

looks highly silicous, which could explain the lack
 


of
   


streak.  Am I imagining it, or can you detect some
concentric banding, convex towards the upper left
(opposite the saw marks)?  If that's real, this may
well be petrified wood!  Surely the seller would've
recognized that---

Norm
http://tektitesource.com

--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



 


Hi Norm and others,
Thanks for your reply.
The photos do not show up well in the little ebay
viewer so here are 
three urls.

http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/59/e233_3.JPG
http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/6b/a18e_3.JPG

I asked about a streak test, Mr. Rank replied:
"No, I did not do a streak test, but I did one
   


just
   


now per your request.
The finding is negative for any color
   


whatsoever--no
   


blacks, rust,
hematitic, ochre, or yellows present. Thank you
   


for
   


the interest."

Very curious reply (in my opinion) when looking at
the red interior of 
the photos.

Best,
Ken


Norm Lehrman wrote:

  

   


Ken and all,

How embarassing for geologists everywhere and


 


another
  

   

general downer for serious meteorite people. 
 


This
   


stuff is frustrating and sad.  I hate seeing
 


people
   


ripped off.

My bristles go up everytime someone says: "I know


 


it's
  

   


real 'cause I had a geologist look at it---"

As a career practicing geologist with over
 


10-years
   


college-level teaching on the side, I can assure


 


you
  

   


that most geology curricula do not include ANY
significant training or information regarding
meteorites, much less, their identification.

It is true that we geologists see a lot of earth


 


rocks
  

   


and are in a generally advantageous position to
recognize something out of the ordinary when we
 


see
   


it, but I have described to this list before that


 


in
  

   


well-intentioned nievete, I used to pass around


 


some
  

   


fine SLAG pieces as examples of meteorites.

Everyone, please be advised that, in general,
professional geologists and geological
 


academicians
   

know less about meteorites than list members! 


 


Anyone
  

   


reading this has been exposed to more meteorite
information on this list than any geologist gets
 


in
   


multi-degree training unless they are involved in
 


a
   


course of study specifically involving
 


meteorites!
   


Cheers,
Norm
(http://tektitesource.com)

--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





  

Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST - Final

2007-03-25 Thread ken newton
Dave and List,
I don't know what his expert would say because I didn't ask or relay 
that info (sorry).  You not only confirmed Norm's observations (that it 
was petrified wood) but added "not a palm wood". So, I (for one) have no 
reason to doubt your expertise that it came from Utah!

List members Joe Kerchner and Pete had also contacted him. Their helpful 
comments caused him to reconsider his meteoritic conclusions. The seller 
was grateful for being spared the ordeal of selling an item "falsely."

I think Norm phrased it well, "Everyone, please be advised that, in 
general, professional geologists and geological academicians know less 
about meteorites than list members!" Equally importantly, as in this 
case, the List members show a willingness to respectfully share that 
knowledge with others, great or small. But that is what the List is all 
about, isn't it?

Best,
Ken Newton
 

Dave Freeman mjwy wrote:

> Dear Ken, List;
> Inquiring minds want to know, did my call of So. Utah/Henry Mountains 
> stand the location test with the neighborhood wood expert?   I would 
> brim with happiness to learn that one.
> Woodly,
> Dave F.
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST - Final

2007-03-24 Thread Norm Lehrman
Ken,

Congrats to you for pursuing this to a conclusion. 
They aren't always this receptive to dissenting
opinions.  Once in a while, it works, and helps to
restore a bit of our confidence.

Thanks,
Norm
http://TektiteSource.com

--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Norm and others,
> I asked Mr. Rant to examine the specimen for growth
> rings. He replied:
> 
> "Due to the interest by others and the quandary it
> presents (experts are 
> puzzled!) I have removed the item from eBay until a
> qualified expert 
> evaluates the stone.
> 
> "It never occurred to me that a local petrified wood
> expert lives four 
> houses down from me.  I called him up and asked if
> he would give me his 
> professional opinion to a problem stone in my
> possession.  I just 
> returned from a visit with him.
> 
> "He not only instantly recognized this specimen as
> petrified wood but 
> was able to give a close approximation of the type
> of hardwood it was.  
> He believes my specimen is from American Chestnut or
> Giant Chinkapin.  
> He described the cell structures as the reasons why
> he believes that is 
> what it is.
> 
> "I asked him if there was any doubt whatsoever in
> his opinion, even one 
> or two percent doubt.  Zero doubt--it is petrified
> wood with 100 percent 
> certainty!  The only doubt is the type of tree;
> could certainly be wrong 
> in that area of his opinion.
> 
> "So, you were persistent and hung in there.  Thank
> you so much for 
> helping me with this auction.  I will relay similar
> information to those 
> others who were also puzzled.  I was totally fooled
> on this one, which 
> will make me more aware next time.
> 
> "I will stick to selling what I am more comfortable
> with from now 
> on--you know, stuff with a label on it. :-) Best
> regards, Kenneth Rank"
> 
> Norm, Thanks for solving this and restoring the
> credibility of geologist 
> worldwide (or until the next non-List geologist
> deems an obvious 'wrong' 
> to be a genuine meteorite :>)
> 
> Best,
> ken
> 
> 
> 
> Norm Lehrman wrote:
> 
> >Ken and list,
> >
> >This image:
> >http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
> >
> >looks highly silicous, which could explain the lack
> of
> >streak.  Am I imagining it, or can you detect some
> >concentric banding, convex towards the upper left
> >(opposite the saw marks)?  If that's real, this may
> >well be petrified wood!  Surely the seller would've
> >recognized that---
> >
> >Norm
> >http://tektitesource.com
> >
> >--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Hi Norm and others,
> >>Thanks for your reply.
> >>The photos do not show up well in the little ebay
> >>viewer so here are 
> >>three urls.
> >>http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
> >>http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/59/e233_3.JPG
> >>http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/6b/a18e_3.JPG
> >>
> >>I asked about a streak test, Mr. Rank replied:
> >>"No, I did not do a streak test, but I did one
> just
> >>now per your request.
> >>The finding is negative for any color
> whatsoever--no
> >>blacks, rust,
> >> hematitic, ochre, or yellows present. Thank you
> for
> >>the interest."
> >>
> >>Very curious reply (in my opinion) when looking at
> >>the red interior of 
> >>the photos.
> >>Best,
> >>Ken
> >> 
> >>
> >>Norm Lehrman wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Ken and all,
> >>>
> >>>How embarassing for geologists everywhere and
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>another
> >>
> >>
> >>>general downer for serious meteorite people. 
> This
> >>>stuff is frustrating and sad.  I hate seeing
> people
> >>>ripped off.
> >>>
> >>>My bristles go up everytime someone says: "I know
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>it's
> >>
> >>
> >>>real 'cause I had a geologist look at it---"
> >>>
> >>>As a career practicing geologist with over
> 10-years
> >>>college-level teaching on the side, I can assure
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>you
> >>
> >>
> >>>that most geology curricula do not include ANY
> >>>significant training or information regarding
> >>>meteorites, much less, their identification.
> >>>
> >>>It is true that we geologists see a lot of earth
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>rocks
> >>
> >>
> >>>and are in a generally advantageous position to
> >>>recognize something out of the ordinary when we
> see
> >>>it, but I have described to this list before that
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>in
> >>
> >>
> >>>well-intentioned nievete, I used to pass around
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>some
> >>
> >>
> >>>fine SLAG pieces as examples of meteorites.
> >>>
> >>>Everyone, please be advised that, in general,
> >>>professional geologists and geological
> academicians
> >>>know less about meteorites than list members! 
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>Anyone
> >>
> >>
> >>>reading this has been exposed to more meteorite
> >>>information on this list than any geologist gets
> in
> >>>multi-degree training unless they are involved in
> a
> >>>course of study specifically involving
> meteorites!
> >>>
> >>>Cheers,
> >>>Norm
> >>>(http://tektitesource.com)
> >>>
> >>>--- 

Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST - Final

2007-03-24 Thread ken newton
Norm and others,
I asked Mr. Rant to examine the specimen for growth rings. He replied:

"Due to the interest by others and the quandary it presents (experts are 
puzzled!) I have removed the item from eBay until a qualified expert 
evaluates the stone.

"It never occurred to me that a local petrified wood expert lives four 
houses down from me.  I called him up and asked if he would give me his 
professional opinion to a problem stone in my possession.  I just 
returned from a visit with him.

"He not only instantly recognized this specimen as petrified wood but 
was able to give a close approximation of the type of hardwood it was.  
He believes my specimen is from American Chestnut or Giant Chinkapin.  
He described the cell structures as the reasons why he believes that is 
what it is.

"I asked him if there was any doubt whatsoever in his opinion, even one 
or two percent doubt.  Zero doubt--it is petrified wood with 100 percent 
certainty!  The only doubt is the type of tree; could certainly be wrong 
in that area of his opinion.

"So, you were persistent and hung in there.  Thank you so much for 
helping me with this auction.  I will relay similar information to those 
others who were also puzzled.  I was totally fooled on this one, which 
will make me more aware next time.

"I will stick to selling what I am more comfortable with from now 
on--you know, stuff with a label on it. :-) Best regards, Kenneth Rank"

Norm, Thanks for solving this and restoring the credibility of geologist 
worldwide (or until the next non-List geologist deems an obvious 'wrong' 
to be a genuine meteorite :>)

Best,
ken



Norm Lehrman wrote:

>Ken and list,
>
>This image:
>http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
>
>looks highly silicous, which could explain the lack of
>streak.  Am I imagining it, or can you detect some
>concentric banding, convex towards the upper left
>(opposite the saw marks)?  If that's real, this may
>well be petrified wood!  Surely the seller would've
>recognized that---
>
>Norm
>http://tektitesource.com
>
>--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi Norm and others,
>>Thanks for your reply.
>>The photos do not show up well in the little ebay
>>viewer so here are 
>>three urls.
>>http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
>>http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/59/e233_3.JPG
>>http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/6b/a18e_3.JPG
>>
>>I asked about a streak test, Mr. Rank replied:
>>"No, I did not do a streak test, but I did one just
>>now per your request.
>>The finding is negative for any color whatsoever--no
>>blacks, rust,
>> hematitic, ochre, or yellows present. Thank you for
>>the interest."
>>
>>Very curious reply (in my opinion) when looking at
>>the red interior of 
>>the photos.
>>Best,
>>Ken
>> 
>>
>>Norm Lehrman wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Ken and all,
>>>
>>>How embarassing for geologists everywhere and
>>>  
>>>
>>another
>>
>>
>>>general downer for serious meteorite people.  This
>>>stuff is frustrating and sad.  I hate seeing people
>>>ripped off.
>>>
>>>My bristles go up everytime someone says: "I know
>>>  
>>>
>>it's
>>
>>
>>>real 'cause I had a geologist look at it---"
>>>
>>>As a career practicing geologist with over 10-years
>>>college-level teaching on the side, I can assure
>>>  
>>>
>>you
>>
>>
>>>that most geology curricula do not include ANY
>>>significant training or information regarding
>>>meteorites, much less, their identification.
>>>
>>>It is true that we geologists see a lot of earth
>>>  
>>>
>>rocks
>>
>>
>>>and are in a generally advantageous position to
>>>recognize something out of the ordinary when we see
>>>it, but I have described to this list before that
>>>  
>>>
>>in
>>
>>
>>>well-intentioned nievete, I used to pass around
>>>  
>>>
>>some
>>
>>
>>>fine SLAG pieces as examples of meteorites.
>>>
>>>Everyone, please be advised that, in general,
>>>professional geologists and geological academicians
>>>know less about meteorites than list members! 
>>>  
>>>
>>Anyone
>>
>>
>>>reading this has been exposed to more meteorite
>>>information on this list than any geologist gets in
>>>multi-degree training unless they are involved in a
>>>course of study specifically involving meteorites!
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Norm
>>>(http://tektitesource.com)
>>>
>>>--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Hi,
Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite
meteorite with diamonds.'

   



>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300094532355
>>
>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
(see question at bottom also, the 'professional
geologist' info is found 
on his 'me' page)

Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite'
look like ordinary 
hematite to anyone else?

As far as the "obvious entry FUSION coating",
remember this?

   



>>http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/au

Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy

Dear List;
I proclaim to be of a wood collectors ilk.   I have been tutored by 
Walter Wright, world renown paleo botanist from CA.
This is wood, probably from So. Utah if I had a guess, possibly Henry 
Mountains location, Steve Hatch  or Walt W. could verify better.  I have 
some in my back yard.
This is not a palm wood. It lacks a few things, one being highly visible 
vascular cell bundles.   It is probably a jurassic/triassic in age.
There is no preserved cell structure it appears. This is caused by a 
cryptocrystaline replacement that didn't preserve the cell structure and 
that is common in Utah wood, and much of Wyoming wood.
Nice rock, about 25 cents to a buck a pound depending on what you want 
to do with it.

Best,
Dave Freeman
See my ebay guides on petrified wood of Wyoming
under user ID mjwy

ken newton wrote:


Norm and List,
Wow! Yes, I think it is also visible here:
http://i14.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e9f3_3.JPG

Best,

Ken
http://www.briloon.org/ed/eagle/index.htm
(neat eagle cam - video2)





Norm Lehrman wrote:

 


Ken and list,

This image:
http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG

looks highly silicous, which could explain the lack of
streak.  Am I imagining it, or can you detect some
concentric banding, convex towards the upper left
(opposite the saw marks)?  If that's real, this may
well be petrified wood!  Surely the seller would've
recognized that---

Norm
http://tektitesource.com

--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



   


Hi Norm and others,
Thanks for your reply.
The photos do not show up well in the little ebay
viewer so here are 
three urls.

http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/59/e233_3.JPG
http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/6b/a18e_3.JPG

I asked about a streak test, Mr. Rank replied:
"No, I did not do a streak test, but I did one just
now per your request.
The finding is negative for any color whatsoever--no
blacks, rust,
hematitic, ochre, or yellows present. Thank you for
the interest."

Very curious reply (in my opinion) when looking at
the red interior of 
the photos.

Best,
Ken


Norm Lehrman wrote:

  

 


Ken and all,

How embarassing for geologists everywhere and


   


another
  

 


general downer for serious meteorite people.  This
stuff is frustrating and sad.  I hate seeing people
ripped off.

My bristles go up everytime someone says: "I know


   


it's
  

 


real 'cause I had a geologist look at it---"

As a career practicing geologist with over 10-years
college-level teaching on the side, I can assure


   


you
  

 


that most geology curricula do not include ANY
significant training or information regarding
meteorites, much less, their identification.

It is true that we geologists see a lot of earth


   


rocks
  

 


and are in a generally advantageous position to
recognize something out of the ordinary when we see
it, but I have described to this list before that


   


in
  

 


well-intentioned nievete, I used to pass around


   


some
  

 


fine SLAG pieces as examples of meteorites.

Everyone, please be advised that, in general,
professional geologists and geological academicians
know less about meteorites than list members! 


   


Anyone
  

 


reading this has been exposed to more meteorite
information on this list than any geologist gets in
multi-degree training unless they are involved in a
course of study specifically involving meteorites!

Cheers,
Norm
(http://tektitesource.com)

--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





   


Hi,
Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite
meteorite with diamonds.'

 

  

 


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300094532355
  

 



   


(see question at bottom also, the 'professional
geologist' info is found 
on his 'me' page)


Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite'
look like ordinary 
hematite to anyone else?


As far as the "obvious entry FUSION coating",
remember this?

 

  

 


http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm
  

 



   


Follow-up:

 

  

 


http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm
  

 



   


Continuously amazed,
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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread Joe
Hello all,
  This piece would make a good addition to my meteorwrong gallery. I am going 
to bid on it so I can add it to my meteorwrong collection. Maybe soon you will 
see it HERE. 
Thanks,
Joe Kerchner
illinoismeteorites.com

- Original Message 
From: ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 10:55:12 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS 
HOBBY WITH EBAY

Hi,
Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite meteorite with diamonds.'
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300094532355
(see question at bottom also, the 'professional geologist' info is found 
on his 'me' page)

Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite' look like ordinary 
hematite to anyone else?

As far as the "obvious entry FUSION coating", remember this?
http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm

Follow-up:
http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm

Continuously amazed,
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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA - all caps is a sign of ignorance

2007-03-24 Thread Howard Steffic
Lets try to refrain from SHOUTING !

Howard Steffic





>From: ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST 
>FINDSHOBBY WITH EBAY
>Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 11:55:12 -0400
>
>Hi,
>Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite meteorite with diamonds.'
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300094532355
>(see question at bottom also, the 'professional geologist' info is found
>on his 'me' page)
>
>Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite' look like ordinary
>hematite to anyone else?
>
>As far as the "obvious entry FUSION coating", remember this?
>http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm
>
>Follow-up:
>http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm
>
>Continuously amazed,
>Ken Newton
>http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/updates.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread ken newton
Norm and List,
Wow! Yes, I think it is also visible here:
http://i14.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e9f3_3.JPG

Best,

Ken
http://www.briloon.org/ed/eagle/index.htm
(neat eagle cam - video2)





Norm Lehrman wrote:

>Ken and list,
>
>This image:
>http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
>
>looks highly silicous, which could explain the lack of
>streak.  Am I imagining it, or can you detect some
>concentric banding, convex towards the upper left
>(opposite the saw marks)?  If that's real, this may
>well be petrified wood!  Surely the seller would've
>recognized that---
>
>Norm
>http://tektitesource.com
>
>--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi Norm and others,
>>Thanks for your reply.
>>The photos do not show up well in the little ebay
>>viewer so here are 
>>three urls.
>>http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
>>http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/59/e233_3.JPG
>>http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/6b/a18e_3.JPG
>>
>>I asked about a streak test, Mr. Rank replied:
>>"No, I did not do a streak test, but I did one just
>>now per your request.
>>The finding is negative for any color whatsoever--no
>>blacks, rust,
>> hematitic, ochre, or yellows present. Thank you for
>>the interest."
>>
>>Very curious reply (in my opinion) when looking at
>>the red interior of 
>>the photos.
>>Best,
>>Ken
>> 
>>
>>Norm Lehrman wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Ken and all,
>>>
>>>How embarassing for geologists everywhere and
>>>  
>>>
>>another
>>
>>
>>>general downer for serious meteorite people.  This
>>>stuff is frustrating and sad.  I hate seeing people
>>>ripped off.
>>>
>>>My bristles go up everytime someone says: "I know
>>>  
>>>
>>it's
>>
>>
>>>real 'cause I had a geologist look at it---"
>>>
>>>As a career practicing geologist with over 10-years
>>>college-level teaching on the side, I can assure
>>>  
>>>
>>you
>>
>>
>>>that most geology curricula do not include ANY
>>>significant training or information regarding
>>>meteorites, much less, their identification.
>>>
>>>It is true that we geologists see a lot of earth
>>>  
>>>
>>rocks
>>
>>
>>>and are in a generally advantageous position to
>>>recognize something out of the ordinary when we see
>>>it, but I have described to this list before that
>>>  
>>>
>>in
>>
>>
>>>well-intentioned nievete, I used to pass around
>>>  
>>>
>>some
>>
>>
>>>fine SLAG pieces as examples of meteorites.
>>>
>>>Everyone, please be advised that, in general,
>>>professional geologists and geological academicians
>>>know less about meteorites than list members! 
>>>  
>>>
>>Anyone
>>
>>
>>>reading this has been exposed to more meteorite
>>>information on this list than any geologist gets in
>>>multi-degree training unless they are involved in a
>>>course of study specifically involving meteorites!
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>Norm
>>>(http://tektitesource.com)
>>>
>>>--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Hi,
Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite
meteorite with diamonds.'

   



>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300094532355
>>
>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
(see question at bottom also, the 'professional
geologist' info is found 
on his 'me' page)

Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite'
look like ordinary 
hematite to anyone else?

As far as the "obvious entry FUSION coating",
remember this?

   



>>http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm
>>
>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Follow-up:

   



>>http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm
>>
>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Continuously amazed,
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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGISTFINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread Mark
you know, it almost looks like a piece of petrified palm
- Original Message - 
From: "Norm Lehrman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ken newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 1:37 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL 
GEOLOGISTFINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY


> Ken and list,
>
> This image:
> http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
>
> looks highly silicous, which could explain the lack of
> streak.  Am I imagining it, or can you detect some
> concentric banding, convex towards the upper left
> (opposite the saw marks)?  If that's real, this may
> well be petrified wood!  Surely the seller would've
> recognized that---
>
> Norm
> http://tektitesource.com
>
> --- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Norm and others,
>> Thanks for your reply.
>> The photos do not show up well in the little ebay
>> viewer so here are
>> three urls.
>> http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
>> http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/59/e233_3.JPG
>> http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/6b/a18e_3.JPG
>>
>> I asked about a streak test, Mr. Rank replied:
>> "No, I did not do a streak test, but I did one just
>> now per your request.
>> The finding is negative for any color whatsoever--no
>> blacks, rust,
>>  hematitic, ochre, or yellows present. Thank you for
>> the interest."
>>
>> Very curious reply (in my opinion) when looking at
>> the red interior of
>> the photos.
>> Best,
>> Ken
>>
>>
>> Norm Lehrman wrote:
>>
>> >Ken and all,
>> >
>> >How embarassing for geologists everywhere and
>> another
>> >general downer for serious meteorite people.  This
>> >stuff is frustrating and sad.  I hate seeing people
>> >ripped off.
>> >
>> >My bristles go up everytime someone says: "I know
>> it's
>> >real 'cause I had a geologist look at it---"
>> >
>> >As a career practicing geologist with over 10-years
>> >college-level teaching on the side, I can assure
>> you
>> >that most geology curricula do not include ANY
>> >significant training or information regarding
>> >meteorites, much less, their identification.
>> >
>> >It is true that we geologists see a lot of earth
>> rocks
>> >and are in a generally advantageous position to
>> >recognize something out of the ordinary when we see
>> >it, but I have described to this list before that
>> in
>> >well-intentioned nievete, I used to pass around
>> some
>> >fine SLAG pieces as examples of meteorites.
>> >
>> >Everyone, please be advised that, in general,
>> >professional geologists and geological academicians
>> >know less about meteorites than list members!
>> Anyone
>> >reading this has been exposed to more meteorite
>> >information on this list than any geologist gets in
>> >multi-degree training unless they are involved in a
>> >course of study specifically involving meteorites!
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Norm
>> >(http://tektitesource.com)
>> >
>> >--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>Hi,
>> >>Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite
>> >>meteorite with diamonds.'
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300094532355
>> >
>> >
>> >>(see question at bottom also, the 'professional
>> >>geologist' info is found
>> >>on his 'me' page)
>> >>
>> >>Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite'
>> >>look like ordinary
>> >>hematite to anyone else?
>> >>
>> >>As far as the "obvious entry FUSION coating",
>> >>remember this?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >>Follow-up:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >>Continuously amazed,
>> >>Ken Newton
>> >>http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/updates.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread Norm Lehrman
Ken and list,

This image:
http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG

looks highly silicous, which could explain the lack of
streak.  Am I imagining it, or can you detect some
concentric banding, convex towards the upper left
(opposite the saw marks)?  If that's real, this may
well be petrified wood!  Surely the seller would've
recognized that---

Norm
http://tektitesource.com

--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Norm and others,
> Thanks for your reply.
> The photos do not show up well in the little ebay
> viewer so here are 
> three urls.
> http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
> http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/59/e233_3.JPG
> http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/6b/a18e_3.JPG
> 
> I asked about a streak test, Mr. Rank replied:
> "No, I did not do a streak test, but I did one just
> now per your request.
> The finding is negative for any color whatsoever--no
> blacks, rust,
>  hematitic, ochre, or yellows present. Thank you for
> the interest."
> 
> Very curious reply (in my opinion) when looking at
> the red interior of 
> the photos.
> Best,
> Ken
>  
> 
> Norm Lehrman wrote:
> 
> >Ken and all,
> >
> >How embarassing for geologists everywhere and
> another
> >general downer for serious meteorite people.  This
> >stuff is frustrating and sad.  I hate seeing people
> >ripped off.
> >
> >My bristles go up everytime someone says: "I know
> it's
> >real 'cause I had a geologist look at it---"
> >
> >As a career practicing geologist with over 10-years
> >college-level teaching on the side, I can assure
> you
> >that most geology curricula do not include ANY
> >significant training or information regarding
> >meteorites, much less, their identification.
> >
> >It is true that we geologists see a lot of earth
> rocks
> >and are in a generally advantageous position to
> >recognize something out of the ordinary when we see
> >it, but I have described to this list before that
> in
> >well-intentioned nievete, I used to pass around
> some
> >fine SLAG pieces as examples of meteorites.
> >
> >Everyone, please be advised that, in general,
> >professional geologists and geological academicians
> >know less about meteorites than list members! 
> Anyone
> >reading this has been exposed to more meteorite
> >information on this list than any geologist gets in
> >multi-degree training unless they are involved in a
> >course of study specifically involving meteorites!
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Norm
> >(http://tektitesource.com)
> >
> >--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite
> >>meteorite with diamonds.'
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300094532355
> >  
> >
> >>(see question at bottom also, the 'professional
> >>geologist' info is found 
> >>on his 'me' page)
> >>
> >>Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite'
> >>look like ordinary 
> >>hematite to anyone else?
> >>
> >>As far as the "obvious entry FUSION coating",
> >>remember this?
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread ken newton
Hi Norm and others,
Thanks for your reply.
The photos do not show up well in the little ebay viewer so here are 
three urls.
http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/94/59/e4ce_3.JPG
http://i2.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/59/e233_3.JPG
http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/94/6b/a18e_3.JPG

I asked about a streak test, Mr. Rank replied:
"No, I did not do a streak test, but I did one just now per your request.
The finding is negative for any color whatsoever--no blacks, rust,
 hematitic, ochre, or yellows present. Thank you for the interest."

Very curious reply (in my opinion) when looking at the red interior of 
the photos.
Best,
Ken
 

Norm Lehrman wrote:

>Ken and all,
>
>How embarassing for geologists everywhere and another
>general downer for serious meteorite people.  This
>stuff is frustrating and sad.  I hate seeing people
>ripped off.
>
>My bristles go up everytime someone says: "I know it's
>real 'cause I had a geologist look at it---"
>
>As a career practicing geologist with over 10-years
>college-level teaching on the side, I can assure you
>that most geology curricula do not include ANY
>significant training or information regarding
>meteorites, much less, their identification.
>
>It is true that we geologists see a lot of earth rocks
>and are in a generally advantageous position to
>recognize something out of the ordinary when we see
>it, but I have described to this list before that in
>well-intentioned nievete, I used to pass around some
>fine SLAG pieces as examples of meteorites.
>
>Everyone, please be advised that, in general,
>professional geologists and geological academicians
>know less about meteorites than list members!  Anyone
>reading this has been exposed to more meteorite
>information on this list than any geologist gets in
>multi-degree training unless they are involved in a
>course of study specifically involving meteorites!
>
>Cheers,
>Norm
>(http://tektitesource.com)
>
>--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite
>>meteorite with diamonds.'
>>
>>
>>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300094532355
>  
>
>>(see question at bottom also, the 'professional
>>geologist' info is found 
>>on his 'me' page)
>>
>>Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite'
>>look like ordinary 
>>hematite to anyone else?
>>
>>As far as the "obvious entry FUSION coating",
>>remember this?
>>
>>
>>
>http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm
>  
>
>>Follow-up:
>>
>>
>>
>http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm
>  
>
>>Continuously amazed,
>>Ken Newton
>>http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/updates.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGISTFINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread Mark
Thanks Norm

I wasn't sure how to word it. I just have the 4 yr degree. The meteorites I 
was exposed to were the collection of the department our department 
technician had on display at school and I learned from him that we had the 
books in our library.
That was before I found the list.

Mark Ferguson


- Original Message - 
From: "Norm Lehrman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ken newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL 
GEOLOGISTFINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY


> Ken and all,
>
> How embarassing for geologists everywhere and another
> general downer for serious meteorite people.  This
> stuff is frustrating and sad.  I hate seeing people
> ripped off.
>
> My bristles go up everytime someone says: "I know it's
> real 'cause I had a geologist look at it---"
>
> As a career practicing geologist with over 10-years
> college-level teaching on the side, I can assure you
> that most geology curricula do not include ANY
> significant training or information regarding
> meteorites, much less, their identification.
>
> It is true that we geologists see a lot of earth rocks
> and are in a generally advantageous position to
> recognize something out of the ordinary when we see
> it, but I have described to this list before that in
> well-intentioned nievete, I used to pass around some
> fine SLAG pieces as examples of meteorites.
>
> Everyone, please be advised that, in general,
> professional geologists and geological academicians
> know less about meteorites than list members!  Anyone
> reading this has been exposed to more meteorite
> information on this list than any geologist gets in
> multi-degree training unless they are involved in a
> course of study specifically involving meteorites!
>
> Cheers,
> Norm
> (http://tektitesource.com)
>
> --- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite
>> meteorite with diamonds.'
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300094532355
>> (see question at bottom also, the 'professional
>> geologist' info is found
>> on his 'me' page)
>>
>> Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite'
>> look like ordinary
>> hematite to anyone else?
>>
>> As far as the "obvious entry FUSION coating",
>> remember this?
>>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm
>>
>> Follow-up:
>>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm
>>
>> Continuously amazed,
>> Ken Newton
>> http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/updates.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread Norm Lehrman
Ken and all,

How embarassing for geologists everywhere and another
general downer for serious meteorite people.  This
stuff is frustrating and sad.  I hate seeing people
ripped off.

My bristles go up everytime someone says: "I know it's
real 'cause I had a geologist look at it---"

As a career practicing geologist with over 10-years
college-level teaching on the side, I can assure you
that most geology curricula do not include ANY
significant training or information regarding
meteorites, much less, their identification.

It is true that we geologists see a lot of earth rocks
and are in a generally advantageous position to
recognize something out of the ordinary when we see
it, but I have described to this list before that in
well-intentioned nievete, I used to pass around some
fine SLAG pieces as examples of meteorites.

Everyone, please be advised that, in general,
professional geologists and geological academicians
know less about meteorites than list members!  Anyone
reading this has been exposed to more meteorite
information on this list than any geologist gets in
multi-degree training unless they are involved in a
course of study specifically involving meteorites!

Cheers,
Norm
(http://tektitesource.com)

--- ken newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite
> meteorite with diamonds.'
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300094532355
> (see question at bottom also, the 'professional
> geologist' info is found 
> on his 'me' page)
> 
> Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite'
> look like ordinary 
> hematite to anyone else?
> 
> As far as the "obvious entry FUSION coating",
> remember this?
>
http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm
> 
> Follow-up:
>
http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm
> 
> Continuously amazed,
> Ken Newton
> http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/updates.html
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[meteorite-list] CALIFORNIA-REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST FINDS HOBBY WITH EBAY

2007-03-24 Thread ken newton
Hi,
Check out this professional geologist's 'Ureilite meteorite with diamonds.'
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300094532355
(see question at bottom also, the 'professional geologist' info is found 
on his 'me' page)

Does the cut face of this 'non magnetic meteorite' look like ordinary 
hematite to anyone else?

As far as the "obvious entry FUSION coating", remember this?
http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/auctions/2255992757.htm

Follow-up:
http://home.earthlink.net/~meteorwrong/auctions/2260392588.htm

Continuously amazed,
Ken Newton
http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/updates.html
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[meteorite-list] california meteorite update

2004-05-09 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi list.I took a small piece of the stone off, and I can see no
chondrules.There is diffently metal in there, but I also see lots of
crystalization in it.There also a white clasts in and around by the
crystals.So this does not get me any closer to what I want to achieve.I'll
keep all posted.

  steve

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Re: [meteorite-list] California Burning

2003-10-26 Thread Ron Baalke
It's been hazy here in Pasadena. I was in San Dimas today, which is out closer
to the fires, and the sky overhead there is overcast with white. The Sun 
was shining through with a brilliant orange color.
All of the flights from Burbank airport have been cancelled tonight - I suspect
from ash and smoke in the upper atmosphere.

Ron Baalke

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Re: [meteorite-list] California Burning

2003-10-26 Thread Jose Campos

Michael Blood,

I am sorry about the sad news of your email.
All Portuguese TV stations have shown images of California burning, on the
news.
Less than 2 months ago, we had the same problem here: Vast areas of
Portugal's forests went up in flames, with terrible consequences to the
local wild life and worst, 19 people died, including some brave firemen.
Myself and my wife Charmaine echo Marcia Swanson's words to you.
May God bless and protect you and your family and all those affected by this
terrible fire.
There is more in Life than meteorites.
Best wishes,
José Campos
Portugal


- Original Message - 
From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Meteorite List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] California Burning


> For those who may not be aware of the latest:
> I awoke at a VERY atypical 6:45 AM to a HOT room - got up and
closed
> the bedroom window and went around the house to close the doors &
> windows and turn off the fans which HAD BEEN blowing cool air through
> the house. This is VERY unusual, as even on the hottest of days, it
usually
> stays cool until at least 7:30 AM.
> However, I noticed something strange in the sky as I was going
> around and looked out to see the entire northern half of the sky a DARK,
> dark cloud but not a cloud...this was clearly a HUGE fire in the
north.
> I turned on the TV and, sure enough, there were multiple fires in
> the LA back country areas.
> I went about my business, but as time has gone on, it started
> "raining" ash and the sky had become very sci-fi movie looking
> I checked the news again and fires had broken out ALL AROUND
> San Diego and the LA fires had already raced this far!
> Now, what had been 6 homes destroyed at 6:45 AM has become
> countless homes destroyed, hundreds more in eminent danger,
> humongus numbers of areas have had REQUIRED evacuation, many
> freeways and highways have been closed, everyone has been asked
> to turn off all but one TV and use no electricity or water, as they are
> needed to fight the fires.
> I live IN San Diego, so it would have to become one of the
greatest
> national catastrophes on record to burn my home, but thousands are
> being effected right now and many more are "on alert" and asked to have
> all bags packed and ready to evacuate at a moment's notice.
> So, if you believe in God, your prayers would be appreciated. If
you
> don't, your holding an image of abatement of the fires and safety of
> home and body in this part of the world would be appreciated.
> As I look out my office window it is SO strange to see huge snow
> flake like ashes drifting down, a wind blowing and a truly eerie sky.
> Best wishes, Michael
>
>
> Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!:
> http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm
> --
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strange.
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> - Interactive Lady Liberty:
> http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm
> - Earth - variety of choices:
> http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html
> --
> Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:
>
http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met
> eorCraterRimL.html
> --
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>   http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] California Burning

2003-10-26 Thread CMcdon0923
My brother and his family live in San Bernardino, and had to evecuate yesterday evening.  As of midnight last night, they didn't know if their house was still standing or not.

My parents live a bit to the south of SB, in Perris, and last I heard there was no real threat there because they're well enough removed from the mountains and any reasonable amount of combustible materials.


Craig


Re: [meteorite-list] California Burning

2003-10-26 Thread Michael L Blood
For those who may not be aware of the latest:
I awoke at a VERY atypical 6:45 AM to a HOT room - got up and closed
the bedroom window and went around the house to close the doors &
windows and turn off the fans which HAD BEEN blowing cool air through
the house. This is VERY unusual, as even on the hottest of days, it usually
stays cool until at least 7:30 AM.
However, I noticed something strange in the sky as I was going
around and looked out to see the entire northern half of the sky a DARK,
dark cloud but not a cloud...this was clearly a HUGE fire in the north.
I turned on the TV and, sure enough, there were multiple fires in
the LA back country areas.
I went about my business, but as time has gone on, it started
"raining" ash and the sky had become very sci-fi movie looking
I checked the news again and fires had broken out ALL AROUND
San Diego and the LA fires had already raced this far!
Now, what had been 6 homes destroyed at 6:45 AM has become
countless homes destroyed, hundreds more in eminent danger,
humongus numbers of areas have had REQUIRED evacuation, many
freeways and highways have been closed, everyone has been asked
to turn off all but one TV and use no electricity or water, as they are
needed to fight the fires.
I live IN San Diego, so it would have to become one of the greatest
national catastrophes on record to burn my home, but thousands are
being effected right now and many more are "on alert" and asked to have
all bags packed and ready to evacuate at a moment's notice.
So, if you believe in God, your prayers would be appreciated. If you
don't, your holding an image of abatement of the fires and safety of
home and body in this part of the world would be appreciated.
As I look out my office window it is SO strange to see huge snow
flake like ashes drifting down, a wind blowing and a truly eerie sky.
Best wishes, Michael


Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!:
http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm
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Robin Morgan
--
http://www.costofwar.com/
--
SUPPORT OUR TROUPS:
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html
--
Worth Seeing:
-  Earth at night from satellite:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg
- Interactive Lady Liberty:
http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm
- Earth - variety of choices:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html
--
Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:
http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met
eorCraterRimL.html
--
Cool Calendar & Clock:
  http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] California Burning

2003-10-26 Thread Marcia Swanson
Dear Michael, and List.
If you will remember the "God thread", I DO believe in God and the power
of Prayer. Know that I and my family are praying for you and your
family, and for the other humanity, and animals alike, that are lost and
may be lost in this disaster. May He Bless and protect you all, and give
you the courage and strength to deal with the situation. Our Prayers are
with you all, Please keep us posted, and realise that if leaving is an
option, nothing tangible is worth risking your life for. May my God be
with you, and to anyone else on the list with convictions like my own,
now is the time !! Marcie


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[meteorite-list] California Meteorite Display

2002-10-08 Thread fcressy

Hello all, especially those who reside in California,

Last night I ran across to TV program on the Los Angeles public broadcasting
station (PBS) titled "California's Gold". It's hosted by Huell Howser and is
a daily(?) half hour show about interesting places to visit in California.
Last nights episode was about the "California State Mining and Mineral
Museum" located in Mariposa, California (in the Sierra Nevada foothills near
Yosemite). It is run by the California State Parks system.

Most of the program was about the minerals and rocks displayed in the
museum. Of interest to us is a display of meteorites including the main mass
of the 128 pound (58 kilo) Ivanpah meteorite (called the San Bernardino
Meteorite in the show). Also shown was the Chilkoot, Alaska iron and a large
pallasite slice. I believe this meteorite display used to reside in the
Ferry Building in San Francisco. If so, the display should also include a
slice of the Goose Lake, CA iron and the pallasite probably is a large
Brenham slice.

All in all, the meteorite part was only on air for a couple of minutes but
it certainly seems like a good place to visit. And if you are interested in
minerals (especially the gold specimens) it's a definite must.

Regards,
Frank





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Re: [meteorite-list] California

2002-01-30 Thread Tracy Latimer

For the first time in a decade (and definitely since we moved to Maui)
there was snow on top of Haleakala.  Pretty freaky to look up from ocean
level and see the tip of the mountain white; all the local kids and a
whole bunch of the tourists went charging up to Haleakala National Park to
throw snowballs at each other.

Tracy Latimer
--from rainy -er, sunny- Hawaii--

On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, meteorite1.net wrote:

> Hello List,
> 
> You know the one about a snowballs chance in hell, well I am in
> Perris,California near March AFB & it is snowing.
> 
> Jim
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Re: [meteorite-list] California

2002-01-30 Thread David Freeman

Dear Dave, Ron, Jim, and Listees;
It is -9 this morning on the high desert.   This may help the reentry of 
the Extreme Ultraviolet Explorer to cool faster.  We better be sure to 
let the public know to put all of the dogs, sheep, and goats indoors for 
the night tonight, we wouldn't want another "Nakhla Dog" 
episode...or...would we?
Problem here is that if no one saw it fall, it would just be dismissed 
as more junk in the yard by many.
Best chill,
Dave Freeman

Dave Mouat wrote:

>Hi Ron and Jim and Listees
>Well, it's 16 below in Truckee, Calif and probably 1 % RH inside my house.
>Dave
>
>"meteorite1.net" wrote:
>
>>Yep we did it is 33 as I type
>>
>>Jim
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Meteordealer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:46 PM
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] California
>>
>>>  The weather is unusual right now. The average temperature here in Ky.
>>>should be in the 30's. It's about 65 right now. I think we must have
>>>
>>swapped
>>
>>>weather.
>>>
>>>Brad Sampson
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>http://www.angelfire.com/me2/meteorites
>>>
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: "meteorite1.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:09 AM
>>>Subject: [meteorite-list] California
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello List,
>>>>
>>>>You know the one about a snowballs chance in hell, well I am in
>>>>Perris,California near March AFB & it is snowing.
>>>>
>>>>Jim
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Re: [meteorite-list] California

2002-01-30 Thread Dave Mouat

Hi Ron and Jim and Listees
Well, it's 16 below in Truckee, Calif and probably 1 % RH inside my house.
Dave

"meteorite1.net" wrote:

> Yep we did it is 33 as I type
>
> Jim
> - Original Message -
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> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] California
>
> >   The weather is unusual right now. The average temperature here in Ky.
> > should be in the 30's. It's about 65 right now. I think we must have
> swapped
> > weather.
> >
> > Brad Sampson
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Re: [meteorite-list] California

2002-01-30 Thread Graham Christensen

Wish I were there, It's -26C (-14F) up here in Alberta, Canada


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>Yep we did it is 33 as I type
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>Jim
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> >   The weather is unusual right now. The average temperature here in Ky.
> > should be in the 30's. It's about 65 right now. I think we must have
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Re: [meteorite-list] California

2002-01-29 Thread meteorite1.net

Yep we did it is 33 as I type

Jim
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>   The weather is unusual right now. The average temperature here in Ky.
> should be in the 30's. It's about 65 right now. I think we must have
swapped
> weather.
>
> Brad Sampson
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> Subject: [meteorite-list] California
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> > Hello List,
> >
> > You know the one about a snowballs chance in hell, well I am in
> > Perris,California near March AFB & it is snowing.
> >
> > Jim
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Re: [meteorite-list] California

2002-01-29 Thread Meteordealer

  The weather is unusual right now. The average temperature here in Ky.
should be in the 30's. It's about 65 right now. I think we must have swapped
weather.

Brad Sampson
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> Hello List,
>
> You know the one about a snowballs chance in hell, well I am in
> Perris,California near March AFB & it is snowing.
>
> Jim
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[meteorite-list] California

2002-01-29 Thread meteorite1.net

Hello List,

You know the one about a snowballs chance in hell, well I am in
Perris,California near March AFB & it is snowing.

Jim

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