[Mpls] Opat threatens to pull Twins Stadium Bill if Hennepin Co. has to follow the law

2005-10-09 Thread Dann Dobson
In Saturday's Pioneer Press' story by Patrick Sweeney and Aron Kahn, about how Gov. Pawlenty might try and get the Twins to come to Saint Paul, there was a very interesting comment by Hennepin County Commissioner Mike Opat, the architect of the Twins - Hennepin Co. stadium plan.

RE: [Mpls] The Battle for Racial Justice continues in St. Paul, what about Minne

2005-10-09 Thread Cam Gordon
Thanks to the Star Tribune for bringing this story to light and to Shawn Lewis for sharing the issue of workforce diversity with the list. Shawn also asked where candidates for city office stand. I think that the city can do a much better job of tracking and communicating about this in three

[Mpls] 5th Ward: Color based Bias

2005-10-09 Thread David Strand
I am seeing lots of references in the media to race being a central part of the conversation in the 5th ward race when it seems to me the real issue is Don Samuel's comments(alleged?) which could be intepreted to disclose a deep bias towards his constituents and neighbors based on their skin

RE: [Mpls] Re: RE: 5th ward fireworks

2005-10-09 Thread Fredric Markus
Wizard and now David Strand have touched a tender spot with me - partly from my recollection of the tensions at redistricting time and partly because I'm one of the old heads albeit not a person of color. Age is easier to address because I live it every day. Race/ethnicity/national origin and

Re: [Mpls] 5th Ward: Color based Bias

2005-10-09 Thread Barbara Lickness
David said: So, for the edification of us all, I'd like to hear, outside of the context of this campaign, what are listmembers perceptions relative to color based bias in Minneapolis? How much of a problem is it and what can or is being done about it in our community? Me: If you look at

Re: [Mpls] Re: RE: 5th ward fireworks

2005-10-09 Thread Eric Mitchell
Michelle, The redistricted map was drawn before Don Samuels ran in the special election to replace Third Ward CM Joe Biernat. Before. The moment Don ran to finish Joe's term, he knew that he was residing in what would be the new Fifth Ward, that was represented by Johnson-Lee at the time. At the

Re: [Mpls] Re: RE: 5th ward fireworks

2005-10-09 Thread Michellehill64
I tried to tone down my response, but here is how I really feel. If CP Samuels had struck to his own declaration, and not ran in the 5th ward against, CP NJL, I would not have had the opportunity to know how he really feels about African-Americans. Finding out is an eye opening scary thing.

[Mpls] You called him a pornographer...show me the pornography...

2005-10-09 Thread PennBroKeith
Dear Don Samuels: I attended a candidate debate for 5th Ward Council held at North high school. You and Natalie Johnson-Lee are the candidates that debated. Stunningly, during a candidate and policy debate, you called Travis Lee, NJL's husband, a pornographer and alluded to the Trendsetter.

[Mpls] Inequity, the Federal Mediation Agreement, etcetera...

2005-10-09 Thread Guy Gambill
Dear Minneapolis, So, for the edification of us all, I'd like to hear, outside of the context of this campaign, what are listmembers perceptions relative to color based bias in Minneapolis? How much of a problem is it and what can or is being done about it in our community? I offer my

[Mpls] 5th Ward Race

2005-10-09 Thread Anne McC
The best thing about this race is that the African American community has produced two viable and experienced candidates for this office. How they got there, i.e. redistricting, is another subject and as far as I can see, not the fault of either. The fact is they are running against each

[Mpls] Minneapolis, where energy efficency ain't legal...

2005-10-09 Thread Dyna
Peter makes excellent points, illustrating that the greatest gains in energy efficiency can be made right in our own Minneapolis structures, and pointing out the roadblocks our city has placed in the way of anyone who dares conserve energy and switch to renewables. I write tonight from

Re: [Mpls] Minneapolis, where energy efficency ain't legal...

2005-10-09 Thread Gena Berglund
I thought that wood burning stoves produced a lot of particulates. If many residents started relying more on wood burning, would there not be a significant increase in air pollution in the city? Is the same true for corn and pellet stoves? Gena Berglund Saint Paul Working temporarily in Mpls.

Re: [Mpls] Re: RE: 5th ward fireworks/What About Ralph Remington

2005-10-09 Thread Eva Young
I don't think it's fair to lay all the responsibility on the fifth ward. The eighth, which had been represented by African Americans for 20 years running, did not, in the end, support another African American in the primary this year. In some ways I'm at a loss to understand this,

[Mpls] 5th Ward Race

2005-10-09 Thread Michellehill64
I hate to respond to post from Anne McCandless, because her insight is always great, however, I think my point has been missed. ANNE SAID: The saddest part of this race is that the only things they seem to argue about is who is more African American and who loves black people more. MICHELLE

Re: [Mpls] 5th Ward Race

2005-10-09 Thread wmmarks
Anne McC wrote: The best thing about this race is that the African American community has produced two viable and experienced candidates for this office. Ms. McCandless, have you not heard what people in the fifth have been saying? The subtext is that Mr. Samuels is Jamaican and Ms.

RE: [Mpls] You called him a pornographer...show me the pornography...

2005-10-09 Thread Kayla Smith
I have been following things closely and kept my mouth shut, but this is my area of expertise and I have devoted many years of study debate to this sort of subject so I decided to chime in. Long before Don Samuels called The Trendsetter pornographic, many woman in my life have had this exact

RE: [Mpls] A chance to make your opinions known via a format otherthanthe list

2005-10-09 Thread Doug Walter
Dorie Rae Gallagher wrote: ...the word has come out in our neighborhood that only a small predetermined, preselected group of people would be involved in the 10-year Transportation Plan. One person has already appointed/annointed himself to represent the south area. This is the first formal

[Mpls] Blimp above Minneapolis

2005-10-09 Thread Michael Bischoff
Have others seen the small blimp/balloon that has been hovering around downtownMinneapolis for the last few days? Does someone know who is doing it? It appears to be some kind of advertisement, but I'm not sure what it is for. The blimp has been one of the highlights in my of my 3 year old

Re: [Mpls] A chance to make your opinions known via a formatotherthanthe list

2005-10-09 Thread Dorie Rae Gallagher
Yup, Darrell did clear up the misinformation and I thanked him for it... dorie gallagher/nokomis Dorie Rae Gallagher wrote: ...the word has come out in our neighborhood that only a small predetermined, preselected group of people would be involved in the 10-year Transportation Plan. One

Re: [Mpls] Blimp above Minneapolis

2005-10-09 Thread Anne McC
One of the TV stations tried to find out about it last week and failed. Seems an unknown party rented the thing for a month (?) and not even the pilot knows who or what the message means. Interesting, huh. I would imagine it's advertising some product or other. Anne McCandless Jordan

[Mpls] Blimp above Minneapolis

2005-10-09 Thread WJKAHN
Michael Bischoff asks: Have others seen the small blimp/balloon that has been hovering around downtownMinneapolis for the last few days? Does someone know who is doing it? It appears to be some kind of advertisement, but I'm not sure what it is for. The blimp has been one of the

Re: [Mpls] Blimp above Minneapolis

2005-10-09 Thread Michael Thompson
It made its first appearance above the marathon last weekend, as best I can tell. It was above Cirque Du Soleil last night, but was also making very wide cirlces around most of the city. It says Have you had it up to here? or something very close to that on one side, and a phrase I cannot

[Mpls] 5th Ward: Color based Bias

2005-10-09 Thread WJKAHN
David Strand asks: So, for the edification of us all, I'd like to hear, outside of the context of this campaign, what are listmembers perceptions relative to color based bias in Minneapolis? How much of a problem is it and what can or is being done about it in our community? I'm tempted to be

Re: [Mpls] You called him a pornographer...show me the pornography...

2005-10-09 Thread Michael Thompson
I guess I'm not really sure where Ms. Smith's post was going, but I'll throw in another view. Considering the Supreme Court even has great difficulty defining pornography, it does indeed fall upon each person to define it themselves. And that's where it should stop. With the exception of

Re: [Mpls] Re: RE: 5th ward fireworks/What About Ralph Remington

2005-10-09 Thread Eric Mitchell
--- Eva Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's fair to lay all the responsibility on the fifth ward. The eighth, which had been represented by African Americans for 20 years running, did not, in the end, support another African American in the primary this year. In

RE: [Mpls] You called him a pornographer...show me the pornography...

2005-10-09 Thread Michael Atherton
Michael Thompson wrote: The Trendsetter (or any other pornographic publication) isn't bringing women down, nor is the cabal of publishers and the concentrated media ownership society. Men who allow porn to negatively impact their interactions with women are bringing ALL of us down. But

Re: [Mpls] You called him a pornographer...show me the pornography...

2005-10-09 Thread Dennis Plante
Well, here's my two-cents. Yes, the term pornographic is very subject and for the most part, remains in the eyes of the beholder. Wheter or not the trendsetter is pornographic is not, nor should it be the sole context from which CM Samuels statements on the matter are viewed. Had the tables

Re: [Mpls] 5th Ward: Color based Bias

2005-10-09 Thread Gary Hoover
In response to David Strands question about race in Minneapolis. There is a fine article in the London Observer entitled The Paradox That Divides Black America. It is well worth reading in relation to this discussion.

[Mpls] No Stadium Tax Yahoo Group

2005-10-09 Thread Dann Dobson
In an attempt to organize stadium tax opponents, I have just started a new Anti-Stadium Tax Yahoo group; NO Stadium Tax. http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/NoStadiumTax/ No Stadium Tax is dedicated to fighting the giveaway of our hard-earned tax dollars to Billionaire Sports Team

[Mpls] Greens and Cassandra

2005-10-09 Thread Aaron Klemz
I know that this is a few days old, but I've been out of town. Bill Kahn said: [...] Greens are powerless for a reason; a reason that I pointed out and a sore spot as Shove's post attests: most of them left the Democratic Party in frustration to bring about the changes that many of us want, and

Re: [Mpls] Blimp above Minneapolis

2005-10-09 Thread Chris Johnson
Since the blimp says Enough is enough on one side and Had it up to here on the other, maybe the Minneapolis Citizens for Park Board Reform hired it? :-) Anne McC wrote: One of the TV stations tried to find out about it last week and failed. Seems an unknown party rented the thing for a month