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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-26 Thread 'Bogdan Paduraru' via neonixie-l

for sure there were listed all available symbols that could be fitted in 
one tube 

On Thursday, March 26, 2026 at 9:07:47 AM UTC+2 Tomasz Kowalczyk wrote:

> PIE did release a datasheet for a symbol tube LL 1 which is dubious to 
> have ever existed, as number of symbols promised is higher than number of 
> physical pins present on the tube.
> https://pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/ll1_pie.htm
>
> This obviously was a step towards LL-55x series. 
> środa, 25 marca 2026 o 08:50:58 UTC+1 Bogdan Paduraru napisał(a):
>
>> I have all known polish LL-55X tubes excluding, obviously, the 554 and 
>> 559 
>> maybe there is some info about those hidden in some bottom drawer 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2026 at 9:48:20 AM UTC+2 Bogdan Paduraru wrote:
>>
>>> there is more than one model that I know / own : Nec CD17 , Rodan CD14, 
>>> GR-875 (has 0-9 and a" -" (minus ) which with the help of 1 can be turned 
>>> intro a +)
>>> Also , CSF has a datasheet that presented some models but never seen any 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2026 at 10:55:11 PM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:
>>>

 On Mar 24, 2026, at 3:11 AM, 'Bogdan Paduraru' via neonixie-l <
 [email protected]> wrote:

 LL-555 has a cooler L, that has a ski stick: Ł


 I covet the slashed “L”. And the tube with the arithmetic operators.


 Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
 "The Mac Doctor"

 https://www.astarcloseup.com

 "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade 
 Runner*



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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-26 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk

PIE did release a datasheet for a symbol tube LL 1 which is dubious to have 
ever existed, as number of symbols promised is higher than number of 
physical pins present on the tube.
https://pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/ll1_pie.htm

This obviously was a step towards LL-55x series. 
środa, 25 marca 2026 o 08:50:58 UTC+1 Bogdan Paduraru napisał(a):

> I have all known polish LL-55X tubes excluding, obviously, the 554 and 559 
> maybe there is some info about those hidden in some bottom drawer 
>
> On Wednesday, March 25, 2026 at 9:48:20 AM UTC+2 Bogdan Paduraru wrote:
>
>> there is more than one model that I know / own : Nec CD17 , Rodan CD14, 
>> GR-875 (has 0-9 and a" -" (minus ) which with the help of 1 can be turned 
>> intro a +)
>> Also , CSF has a datasheet that presented some models but never seen any 
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2026 at 10:55:11 PM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 24, 2026, at 3:11 AM, 'Bogdan Paduraru' via neonixie-l <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> LL-555 has a cooler L, that has a ski stick: Ł
>>>
>>>
>>> I covet the slashed “L”. And the tube with the arithmetic operators.
>>>
>>>
>>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
>>> "The Mac Doctor"
>>>
>>> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>>>
>>> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade 
>>> Runner*
>>>
>>>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-26 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk

PIE did release a datasheet for a symbol tube LL 1 which is dubious to have 
ever existed, as number of symbols promised is higher than number of 
physical pins present on the tube.
https://pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/ll1_pie.htm

This obviously was a step towards LL-55x series. Dolam overtook Polish 
nixie production after PIE developed first useable products 

środa, 25 marca 2026 o 08:50:58 UTC+1 Bogdan Paduraru napisał(a):

> I have all known polish LL-55X tubes excluding, obviously, the 554 and 559 
> maybe there is some info about those hidden in some bottom drawer 
>
> On Wednesday, March 25, 2026 at 9:48:20 AM UTC+2 Bogdan Paduraru wrote:
>
>> there is more than one model that I know / own : Nec CD17 , Rodan CD14, 
>> GR-875 (has 0-9 and a" -" (minus ) which with the help of 1 can be turned 
>> intro a +)
>> Also , CSF has a datasheet that presented some models but never seen any 
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2026 at 10:55:11 PM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 24, 2026, at 3:11 AM, 'Bogdan Paduraru' via neonixie-l <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> LL-555 has a cooler L, that has a ski stick: Ł
>>>
>>>
>>> I covet the slashed “L”. And the tube with the arithmetic operators.
>>>
>>>
>>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
>>> "The Mac Doctor"
>>>
>>> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>>>
>>> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade 
>>> Runner*
>>>
>>>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-25 Thread 'Bogdan Paduraru' via neonixie-l

I have all known polish LL-55X tubes excluding, obviously, the 554 and 559 
maybe there is some info about those hidden in some bottom drawer 

On Wednesday, March 25, 2026 at 9:48:20 AM UTC+2 Bogdan Paduraru wrote:

> there is more than one model that I know / own : Nec CD17 , Rodan CD14, 
> GR-875 (has 0-9 and a" -" (minus ) which with the help of 1 can be turned 
> intro a +)
> Also , CSF has a datasheet that presented some models but never seen any 
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2026 at 10:55:11 PM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mar 24, 2026, at 3:11 AM, 'Bogdan Paduraru' via neonixie-l <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> LL-555 has a cooler L, that has a ski stick: Ł
>>
>>
>> I covet the slashed “L”. And the tube with the arithmetic operators.
>>
>>
>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
>> "The Mac Doctor"
>>
>> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>>
>> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade 
>> Runner*
>>
>>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-25 Thread 'Bogdan Paduraru' via neonixie-l

there is more than one model that I know / own : Nec CD17 , Rodan CD14, 
GR-875 (has 0-9 and a" -" (minus ) which with the help of 1 can be turned 
intro a +)
Also , CSF has a datasheet that presented some models but never seen any 

On Tuesday, March 24, 2026 at 10:55:11 PM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:

>
> On Mar 24, 2026, at 3:11 AM, 'Bogdan Paduraru' via neonixie-l <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> LL-555 has a cooler L, that has a ski stick: Ł
>
>
> I covet the slashed “L”. And the tube with the arithmetic operators.
>
>
> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
> "The Mac Doctor"
>
> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>
> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade 
> Runner*
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-24 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk

Quite weird of Polish engineers to include practically all letters from the 
alphabet, including some not used in Polish (like X or V, but Q was not 
included for whatever reason), and then proceed to add exactly one of the 
Polish specific symbols - Ł. It's pronounced like W in water. Polish has a 
plethora of other unique symbols but none of them made it to the series.
There are also 6-7 symbols per tube, so 3-4 more could be fitted in the 
envelopes. 

LL-554 and LL-559 are not known to exist, perhaps these are the missing 
pieces :) 

wtorek, 24 marca 2026 o 08:11:54 UTC+1 Bogdan Paduraru napisał(a):

>
> LL-555 has a cooler L, that has a ski stick: Ł
> Swiss Nixie - Vintage Electronics 
> 
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2026 at 1:04:08 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mar 23, 2026, at 6:09 PM, Tomasz Kowalczyk  wrote:
>>
>> The LL-555 tube itself is even rarer, unfortunately. If anyone reading 
>> has one for sale, please do not hestitate to send me an e-mail! 
>>
>>
>> Add me to the list. I’ve never seen one for sale.
>>
>>
>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
>> "The Mac Doctor"
>>
>> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>>
>> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade 
>> Runner*
>>
>>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-24 Thread Mac Doktor


> On Mar 24, 2026, at 3:11 AM, 'Bogdan Paduraru' via neonixie-l 
>  wrote:
> 
> LL-555 has a cooler L, that has a ski stick: Ł

I covet the slashed “L”. And the tube with the arithmetic operators.


Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
"The Mac Doctor"

https://www.astarcloseup.com

"If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, Blade Runner

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-24 Thread 'Bogdan Paduraru' via neonixie-l


LL-555 has a cooler L, that has a ski stick: Ł
Swiss Nixie - Vintage Electronics 
On Tuesday, March 24, 2026 at 1:04:08 AM UTC+2 Mac Doktor wrote:

>
> On Mar 23, 2026, at 6:09 PM, Tomasz Kowalczyk  wrote:
>
> The LL-555 tube itself is even rarer, unfortunately. If anyone reading has 
> one for sale, please do not hestitate to send me an e-mail! 
>
>
> Add me to the list. I’ve never seen one for sale.
>
>
> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
> "The Mac Doctor"
>
> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>
> "If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, *Blade 
> Runner*
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-23 Thread Mac Doktor


> On Mar 23, 2026, at 6:09 PM, Tomasz Kowalczyk  wrote:
> 
> The LL-555 tube itself is even rarer, unfortunately. If anyone reading has 
> one for sale, please do not hestitate to send me an e-mail! 


Add me to the list. I’ve never seen one for sale.


Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
"The Mac Doctor"

https://www.astarcloseup.com

"If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes."—Roy Batty, Blade Runner

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-23 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk

The LL-555 tube itself is even rarer, unfortunately. If anyone reading has 
one for sale, please do not hestitate to send me an e-mail! 

poniedziałek, 23 marca 2026 o 23:03:58 UTC+1 gregebert napisał(a):

> Nice! I dont think I've ever seen 'L' in nixies before. I will start 
> looking for LL-555 tubes, and it looks like it also has 'R' and 'T', which 
> are somewhat rare.
>
> On Monday, March 23, 2026 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7 Tomasz Kowalczyk wrote:
>
>> I was suggesting it as a source for proper L. Yes, it fits the standard 
>> 13 pin socket. 
>> Unfortunately other tubes from this series are less available, and none 
>> of them contain the Q symbol. I am still seeking any LL-555 and LL-556 for 
>> my Dolam tube collection
>>
>>
>>  [image: Przechwytywanie.JPG]
>>
>>
>> niedziela, 22 marca 2026 o 16:27:42 UTC+1 gregebert napisał(a):
>>
>>> I was able to buy two ZM1001 tubes, which have X,Y,Z so that covers me 
>>> for the LL-558.
>>> BTW, the LL-558 looks like it would fit in the same 13-pin socket as 
>>> other common nixies like the b5092.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 1:57:32 PM UTC-7 Tomasz Kowalczyk wrote:
>>>
 Would an LL-558 fit? They are reasonably available. 

 sobota, 21 marca 2026 o 20:57:47 UTC+1 gregebert napisał(a):

> IN-15 tubes came in very handy for a current project, which I wont 
> name here, because it has some other wise hard-to-find letters. Instead 
> of 
> the usual numerals, which are mostly only usable for clock, this has 
> pluggable tubes that display letters. I now have everything except Q. 
> Arguably, 'L' is sloppy because my only option is to use a '1' for 'I' 
> and 
> 'L', but being able to have 25 of 26 letters allows a lot of words.
>
> [image: tfump.jpg]
>
> On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 11:52:07 AM UTC-7 newxito wrote:
>
>> I find the IN15 nixies very useful and have already used them in two 
>> projects that I otherwise wouldn't have been able to build. But of 
>> course, 
>> not at this price...
>>
>> Mac Doktor schrieb am Samstag, 21. März 2026 um 18:11:40 UTC+1:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:35 AM, Peter Hall  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes he was being sarcastic...$20 for $2 in15…
>>>
>>>
>>> You got it. You can get IN-12s for less. Perhaps the first of April 
>>> came early. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:23 AM, Robert G. Schaffrath <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I found it amusing to swap an IN-15 A or B into a Chinese single 
>>> digit IN-12 clock and watch it cycle through the symbols as it counts 
>>> seconds. That is about the only thing I could find them useful for. 
>>> Granted 
>>> with an IN-15A you can spell words made up of the letters M, P, k, m, n 
>>> and 
>>> "u" (mu) and with the IN-15B the letters A, F, H, P, V and W (reminds 
>>> me of 
>>> the end of Wheel of Fortune when you chose a bunch of letters and have 
>>> no 
>>> idea what the phrase is for the grand prize).
>>>
>>>
>>> I like the way you think. 8D
>>>
>>> Now watch some idiot buy it. It’s a good thing the seller is in the 
>>> US otherwise you’d have to add the tariff.
>>>
>>>
>>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
>>> "The Mac Doctor"
>>>
>>> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>>>
>>> “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't 
>>> go away.”–Philip K. Dick, "I Hope I Shall Arrive Soon"
>>>
>>>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-23 Thread gregebert

Nice! I dont think I've ever seen 'L' in nixies before. I will start 
looking for LL-555 tubes, and it looks like it also has 'R' and 'T', which 
are somewhat rare.

On Monday, March 23, 2026 at 2:57:25 PM UTC-7 Tomasz Kowalczyk wrote:

> I was suggesting it as a source for proper L. Yes, it fits the standard 13 
> pin socket. 
> Unfortunately other tubes from this series are less available, and none of 
> them contain the Q symbol. I am still seeking any LL-555 and LL-556 for my 
> Dolam tube collection
>
>
>  [image: Przechwytywanie.JPG]
>
>
> niedziela, 22 marca 2026 o 16:27:42 UTC+1 gregebert napisał(a):
>
>> I was able to buy two ZM1001 tubes, which have X,Y,Z so that covers me 
>> for the LL-558.
>> BTW, the LL-558 looks like it would fit in the same 13-pin socket as 
>> other common nixies like the b5092.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 1:57:32 PM UTC-7 Tomasz Kowalczyk wrote:
>>
>>> Would an LL-558 fit? They are reasonably available. 
>>>
>>> sobota, 21 marca 2026 o 20:57:47 UTC+1 gregebert napisał(a):
>>>
 IN-15 tubes came in very handy for a current project, which I wont name 
 here, because it has some other wise hard-to-find letters. Instead of the 
 usual numerals, which are mostly only usable for clock, this has pluggable 
 tubes that display letters. I now have everything except Q. Arguably, 'L' 
 is sloppy because my only option is to use a '1' for 'I' and 'L', but 
 being 
 able to have 25 of 26 letters allows a lot of words.

 [image: tfump.jpg]

 On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 11:52:07 AM UTC-7 newxito wrote:

> I find the IN15 nixies very useful and have already used them in two 
> projects that I otherwise wouldn't have been able to build. But of 
> course, 
> not at this price...
>
> Mac Doktor schrieb am Samstag, 21. März 2026 um 18:11:40 UTC+1:
>
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:35 AM, Peter Hall  wrote:
>>
>> Yes he was being sarcastic...$20 for $2 in15…
>>
>>
>> You got it. You can get IN-12s for less. Perhaps the first of April 
>> came early. 
>>
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:23 AM, Robert G. Schaffrath <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I found it amusing to swap an IN-15 A or B into a Chinese single 
>> digit IN-12 clock and watch it cycle through the symbols as it counts 
>> seconds. That is about the only thing I could find them useful for. 
>> Granted 
>> with an IN-15A you can spell words made up of the letters M, P, k, m, n 
>> and 
>> "u" (mu) and with the IN-15B the letters A, F, H, P, V and W (reminds me 
>> of 
>> the end of Wheel of Fortune when you chose a bunch of letters and have 
>> no 
>> idea what the phrase is for the grand prize).
>>
>>
>> I like the way you think. 8D
>>
>> Now watch some idiot buy it. It’s a good thing the seller is in the 
>> US otherwise you’d have to add the tariff.
>>
>>
>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
>> "The Mac Doctor"
>>
>> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>>
>> “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't 
>> go away.”–Philip K. Dick, "I Hope I Shall Arrive Soon"
>>
>>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-23 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk

I was suggesting it as a source for proper L. Yes, it fits the standard 13 
pin socket. 
Unfortunately other tubes from this series are less available, and none of 
them contain the Q symbol. I am still seeking any LL-555 and LL-556 for my 
Dolam tube collection


 [image: Przechwytywanie.JPG]


niedziela, 22 marca 2026 o 16:27:42 UTC+1 gregebert napisał(a):

> I was able to buy two ZM1001 tubes, which have X,Y,Z so that covers me for 
> the LL-558.
> BTW, the LL-558 looks like it would fit in the same 13-pin socket as other 
> common nixies like the b5092.
>
> On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 1:57:32 PM UTC-7 Tomasz Kowalczyk wrote:
>
>> Would an LL-558 fit? They are reasonably available. 
>>
>> sobota, 21 marca 2026 o 20:57:47 UTC+1 gregebert napisał(a):
>>
>>> IN-15 tubes came in very handy for a current project, which I wont name 
>>> here, because it has some other wise hard-to-find letters. Instead of the 
>>> usual numerals, which are mostly only usable for clock, this has pluggable 
>>> tubes that display letters. I now have everything except Q. Arguably, 'L' 
>>> is sloppy because my only option is to use a '1' for 'I' and 'L', but being 
>>> able to have 25 of 26 letters allows a lot of words.
>>>
>>> [image: tfump.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 11:52:07 AM UTC-7 newxito wrote:
>>>
 I find the IN15 nixies very useful and have already used them in two 
 projects that I otherwise wouldn't have been able to build. But of course, 
 not at this price...

 Mac Doktor schrieb am Samstag, 21. März 2026 um 18:11:40 UTC+1:

>
> On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:35 AM, Peter Hall  wrote:
>
> Yes he was being sarcastic...$20 for $2 in15…
>
>
> You got it. You can get IN-12s for less. Perhaps the first of April 
> came early. 
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:23 AM, Robert G. Schaffrath <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> I found it amusing to swap an IN-15 A or B into a Chinese single digit 
> IN-12 clock and watch it cycle through the symbols as it counts seconds. 
> That is about the only thing I could find them useful for. Granted with 
> an 
> IN-15A you can spell words made up of the letters M, P, k, m, n and "u" 
> (mu) and with the IN-15B the letters A, F, H, P, V and W (reminds me of 
> the 
> end of Wheel of Fortune when you chose a bunch of letters and have no 
> idea 
> what the phrase is for the grand prize).
>
>
> I like the way you think. 8D
>
> Now watch some idiot buy it. It’s a good thing the seller is in the US 
> otherwise you’d have to add the tariff.
>
>
> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
> "The Mac Doctor"
>
> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>
> “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't 
> go away.”–Philip K. Dick, "I Hope I Shall Arrive Soon"
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-22 Thread Mac Doktor

Update: the listing has had 86 views today. Word must be getting around.

Also, there’s a new listing for a box of 25 IN-12As. $10 apiece, US seller, 
“many available”.

> On Mar 22, 2026, at 11:33 AM, gregebert  wrote:
> 
> @Bogdan - I wasn't able to find anything about the NL-1317. That's a very 
> useful tube because it has hard-to-find letters 'T' and 'R' . I'm going to 
> keep searching.

Let me know when you find several.  8D

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-22 Thread 'bogdan paduraru' via neonixie-l

The oficial nickname is Eca .There is second one , rather cute, and was given by our neighbors girl ,Beca ( a forced feminin of the word "bec") ; bec means "lightbulb " in Romanian On 22 Mar 2026, at 19:08, Adrian Godwin wrote:I'm guessing you don't generally address her by her full name. Perhaps you could shorten it to 'CAT' or something ?On Sun, Mar 22, 2026 at 4:58 PM 'bogdan paduraru' via neonixie-l wrote:I feel you there, on my early quest for spelling Ecaterina I have encountered the same problem for T and R, now I have a rather large variety of tubes that could spell my daughters name.Please contact me privately and we will see what can we do for your project On 22 Mar 2026, at 17:33, gregebert wrote:@Bogdan - I wasn't able to find anything about the NL-1317. That's a very useful tube because it has hard-to-find letters 'T' and 'R' . I'm going to keep searching.On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 1:34:17 PM UTC-7 bogdan paduraru wrote:@ GregNL-1317 has the Q also A,B,G,H,J,P,R,S,T ( NL-5018 style)I have other 2 models that have the Q , but they are not top view On 21 Mar 2026, at 21:57, gregebert wrote:IN-15 tubes came in very handy for a current project, which I wont name here, because it has some other wise hard-to-find letters. Instead of the usual numerals, which are mostly only usable for clock, this has pluggable tubes that display letters. I now have everything except Q. Arguably, 'L' is sloppy because my only option is to use a '1' for 'I' and 'L', but being able to have 25 of 26 letters allows a lot of words.On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 11:52:07 AM UTC-7 newxito wrote:I find the IN15 nixies very useful and have already used them in two projects that I otherwise wouldn't have been able to build. But of course, not at this price...Mac Doktor schrieb am Samstag, 21. März 2026 um 18:11:40 UTC+1:On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:35 AM, Peter Hall wrote:Yes he was being sarcastic...$20 for $2 in15…You got it. You can get IN-12s for less. Perhaps the first of April came early. On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:23 AM, Robert G. Schaffrath wrote:I found it amusing to swap an IN-15 A or B into a Chinese single digit IN-12 clock and watch it cycle through the symbols as it counts seconds. That is about the only thing I could find them useful for. Granted with an IN-15A you can spell words made up of the letters M, P, k, m, n and "u" (mu) and with the IN-15B the letters A, F, H, P, V and W (reminds me of the end of Wheel of Fortune when you chose a bunch of letters and have no idea what the phrase is for the grand prize).I like the way you think. 8DNow watch some idiot buy it. It’s a good thing the seller is in the US otherwise you’d have to add the tariff.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-22 Thread Adrian Godwin

I'm guessing you don't generally address her by her full name. Perhaps you
could shorten it to 'CAT' or something ?

On Sun, Mar 22, 2026 at 4:58 PM 'bogdan paduraru' via neonixie-l <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I feel you there, on my early quest for spelling Ecaterina I have
> encountered the same problem for T and R, now I have a rather large variety
> of tubes that could spell my daughters name.
> Please contact me privately and we will see what can we do for your
> project
>
> On 22 Mar 2026, at 17:33, gregebert  wrote:
>
> @Bogdan - I wasn't able to find anything about the NL-1317. That's a very
> useful tube because it has hard-to-find letters 'T' and 'R' . I'm going to
> keep searching.
>
> On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 1:34:17 PM UTC-7 bogdan paduraru wrote:
>
>> @ Greg
>> NL-1317 has the Q also A,B,G,H,J,P,R,S,T ( NL-5018 style)
>> I have other 2 models that have the Q , but they are not top view
>>
>> On 21 Mar 2026, at 21:57, gregebert  wrote:
>>
>> IN-15 tubes came in very handy for a current project, which I wont name
>> here, because it has some other wise hard-to-find letters. Instead of the
>> usual numerals, which are mostly only usable for clock, this has pluggable
>> tubes that display letters. I now have everything except Q. Arguably, 'L'
>> is sloppy because my only option is to use a '1' for 'I' and 'L', but being
>> able to have 25 of 26 letters allows a lot of words.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 11:52:07 AM UTC-7 newxito wrote:
>>
>>> I find the IN15 nixies very useful and have already used them in two
>>> projects that I otherwise wouldn't have been able to build. But of course,
>>> not at this price...
>>>
>>> Mac Doktor schrieb am Samstag, 21. März 2026 um 18:11:40 UTC+1:
>>>

 On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:35 AM, Peter Hall  wrote:

 Yes he was being sarcastic...$20 for $2 in15…


 You got it. You can get IN-12s for less. Perhaps the first of April
 came early.


 On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:23 AM, Robert G. Schaffrath <
 [email protected]> wrote:

 I found it amusing to swap an IN-15 A or B into a Chinese single digit
 IN-12 clock and watch it cycle through the symbols as it counts seconds.
 That is about the only thing I could find them useful for. Granted with an
 IN-15A you can spell words made up of the letters M, P, k, m, n and "u"
 (mu) and with the IN-15B the letters A, F, H, P, V and W (reminds me of the
 end of Wheel of Fortune when you chose a bunch of letters and have no idea
 what the phrase is for the grand prize).


 I like the way you think. 8D

 Now watch some idiot buy it. It’s a good thing the seller is in the US
 otherwise you’d have to add the tariff.


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 "The Mac Doctor"

 https://www.astarcloseup.com

 “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't
 go away.”–Philip K. Dick, "I Hope I Shall Arrive Soon"

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-22 Thread 'bogdan paduraru' via neonixie-l

I feel you there, on my early quest for spelling Ecaterina I have encountered the same problem for T and R, now I have a rather large variety of tubes that could spell my daughters name.Please contact me privately and we will see what can we do for your project On 22 Mar 2026, at 17:33, gregebert wrote:@Bogdan - I wasn't able to find anything about the NL-1317. That's a very useful tube because it has hard-to-find letters 'T' and 'R' . I'm going to keep searching.On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 1:34:17 PM UTC-7 bogdan paduraru wrote:@ GregNL-1317 has the Q also A,B,G,H,J,P,R,S,T ( NL-5018 style)I have other 2 models that have the Q , but they are not top view On 21 Mar 2026, at 21:57, gregebert wrote:IN-15 tubes came in very handy for a current project, which I wont name here, because it has some other wise hard-to-find letters. Instead of the usual numerals, which are mostly only usable for clock, this has pluggable tubes that display letters. I now have everything except Q. Arguably, 'L' is sloppy because my only option is to use a '1' for 'I' and 'L', but being able to have 25 of 26 letters allows a lot of words.On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 11:52:07 AM UTC-7 newxito wrote:I find the IN15 nixies very useful and have already used them in two projects that I otherwise wouldn't have been able to build. But of course, not at this price...Mac Doktor schrieb am Samstag, 21. März 2026 um 18:11:40 UTC+1:On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:35 AM, Peter Hall wrote:Yes he was being sarcastic...$20 for $2 in15…You got it. You can get IN-12s for less. Perhaps the first of April came early. On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:23 AM, Robert G. Schaffrath wrote:I found it amusing to swap an IN-15 A or B into a Chinese single digit IN-12 clock and watch it cycle through the symbols as it counts seconds. That is about the only thing I could find them useful for. Granted with an IN-15A you can spell words made up of the letters M, P, k, m, n and "u" (mu) and with the IN-15B the letters A, F, H, P, V and W (reminds me of the end of Wheel of Fortune when you chose a bunch of letters and have no idea what the phrase is for the grand prize).I like the way you think. 8DNow watch some idiot buy it. It’s a good thing the seller is in the US otherwise you’d have to add the tariff.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-22 Thread gregebert

@Bogdan - I wasn't able to find anything about the NL-1317. That's a very 
useful tube because it has hard-to-find letters 'T' and 'R' . I'm going to 
keep searching.

On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 1:34:17 PM UTC-7 bogdan paduraru wrote:

> @ Greg
> NL-1317 has the Q also A,B,G,H,J,P,R,S,T ( NL-5018 style)
> I have other 2 models that have the Q , but they are not top view 
>
> On 21 Mar 2026, at 21:57, gregebert  wrote:
>
> IN-15 tubes came in very handy for a current project, which I wont name 
> here, because it has some other wise hard-to-find letters. Instead of the 
> usual numerals, which are mostly only usable for clock, this has pluggable 
> tubes that display letters. I now have everything except Q. Arguably, 'L' 
> is sloppy because my only option is to use a '1' for 'I' and 'L', but being 
> able to have 25 of 26 letters allows a lot of words.
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 11:52:07 AM UTC-7 newxito wrote:
>
>> I find the IN15 nixies very useful and have already used them in two 
>> projects that I otherwise wouldn't have been able to build. But of course, 
>> not at this price...
>>
>> Mac Doktor schrieb am Samstag, 21. März 2026 um 18:11:40 UTC+1:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:35 AM, Peter Hall  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes he was being sarcastic...$20 for $2 in15…
>>>
>>>
>>> You got it. You can get IN-12s for less. Perhaps the first of April came 
>>> early. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:23 AM, Robert G. Schaffrath  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I found it amusing to swap an IN-15 A or B into a Chinese single digit 
>>> IN-12 clock and watch it cycle through the symbols as it counts seconds. 
>>> That is about the only thing I could find them useful for. Granted with an 
>>> IN-15A you can spell words made up of the letters M, P, k, m, n and "u" 
>>> (mu) and with the IN-15B the letters A, F, H, P, V and W (reminds me of the 
>>> end of Wheel of Fortune when you chose a bunch of letters and have no idea 
>>> what the phrase is for the grand prize).
>>>
>>>
>>> I like the way you think. 8D
>>>
>>> Now watch some idiot buy it. It’s a good thing the seller is in the US 
>>> otherwise you’d have to add the tariff.
>>>
>>>
>>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
>>> "The Mac Doctor"
>>>
>>> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>>>
>>> “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't 
>>> go away.”–Philip K. Dick, "I Hope I Shall Arrive Soon"
>>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-22 Thread gregebert

I was able to buy two ZM1001 tubes, which have X,Y,Z so that covers me for 
the LL-558.
BTW, the LL-558 looks like it would fit in the same 13-pin socket as other 
common nixies like the b5092.

On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 1:57:32 PM UTC-7 Tomasz Kowalczyk wrote:

> Would an LL-558 fit? They are reasonably available. 
>
> sobota, 21 marca 2026 o 20:57:47 UTC+1 gregebert napisał(a):
>
>> IN-15 tubes came in very handy for a current project, which I wont name 
>> here, because it has some other wise hard-to-find letters. Instead of the 
>> usual numerals, which are mostly only usable for clock, this has pluggable 
>> tubes that display letters. I now have everything except Q. Arguably, 'L' 
>> is sloppy because my only option is to use a '1' for 'I' and 'L', but being 
>> able to have 25 of 26 letters allows a lot of words.
>>
>> [image: tfump.jpg]
>>
>> On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 11:52:07 AM UTC-7 newxito wrote:
>>
>>> I find the IN15 nixies very useful and have already used them in two 
>>> projects that I otherwise wouldn't have been able to build. But of course, 
>>> not at this price...
>>>
>>> Mac Doktor schrieb am Samstag, 21. März 2026 um 18:11:40 UTC+1:
>>>

 On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:35 AM, Peter Hall  wrote:

 Yes he was being sarcastic...$20 for $2 in15…

 You got it. You can get IN-12s for less. Perhaps the first of April 
 came early. 

 On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:23 AM, Robert G. Schaffrath <
 [email protected]> wrote:

 I found it amusing to swap an IN-15 A or B into a Chinese single digit 
 IN-12 clock and watch it cycle through the symbols as it counts seconds. 
 That is about the only thing I could find them useful for. Granted with an 
 IN-15A you can spell words made up of the letters M, P, k, m, n and "u" 
 (mu) and with the IN-15B the letters A, F, H, P, V and W (reminds me of 
 the 
 end of Wheel of Fortune when you chose a bunch of letters and have no idea 
 what the phrase is for the grand prize).

 I like the way you think. 8D

 Now watch some idiot buy it. It’s a good thing the seller is in the US 
 otherwise you’d have to add the tariff.

 Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
 "The Mac Doctor"

 https://www.astarcloseup.com

 “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't 
 go away.”–Philip K. Dick, "I Hope I Shall Arrive Soon"

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-21 Thread Dekatron42

Why not ask Dalibor for your special text Nixie - it might be cheaper than 
collecting enough of the Dolam LL-series!

/Martin

On Saturday, 21 March 2026 at 21:57:32 UTC+1 Tomasz Kowalczyk wrote:

> Would an LL-558 fit? They are reasonably available. 
>
> sobota, 21 marca 2026 o 20:57:47 UTC+1 gregebert napisał(a):
>
>> IN-15 tubes came in very handy for a current project, which I wont name 
>> here, because it has some other wise hard-to-find letters. Instead of the 
>> usual numerals, which are mostly only usable for clock, this has pluggable 
>> tubes that display letters. I now have everything except Q. Arguably, 'L' 
>> is sloppy because my only option is to use a '1' for 'I' and 'L', but being 
>> able to have 25 of 26 letters allows a lot of words.
>>
>> [image: tfump.jpg]
>>
>> On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 11:52:07 AM UTC-7 newxito wrote:
>>
>>> I find the IN15 nixies very useful and have already used them in two 
>>> projects that I otherwise wouldn't have been able to build. But of course, 
>>> not at this price...
>>>
>>> Mac Doktor schrieb am Samstag, 21. März 2026 um 18:11:40 UTC+1:
>>>

 On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:35 AM, Peter Hall  wrote:

 Yes he was being sarcastic...$20 for $2 in15…

 You got it. You can get IN-12s for less. Perhaps the first of April 
 came early. 

 On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:23 AM, Robert G. Schaffrath <
 [email protected]> wrote:

 I found it amusing to swap an IN-15 A or B into a Chinese single digit 
 IN-12 clock and watch it cycle through the symbols as it counts seconds. 
 That is about the only thing I could find them useful for. Granted with an 
 IN-15A you can spell words made up of the letters M, P, k, m, n and "u" 
 (mu) and with the IN-15B the letters A, F, H, P, V and W (reminds me of 
 the 
 end of Wheel of Fortune when you chose a bunch of letters and have no idea 
 what the phrase is for the grand prize).

 I like the way you think. 8D

 Now watch some idiot buy it. It’s a good thing the seller is in the US 
 otherwise you’d have to add the tariff.

 Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
 "The Mac Doctor"

 https://www.astarcloseup.com

 “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't 
 go away.”–Philip K. Dick, "I Hope I Shall Arrive Soon"

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-21 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk

Would an LL-558 fit? They are reasonably available. 

sobota, 21 marca 2026 o 20:57:47 UTC+1 gregebert napisał(a):

> IN-15 tubes came in very handy for a current project, which I wont name 
> here, because it has some other wise hard-to-find letters. Instead of the 
> usual numerals, which are mostly only usable for clock, this has pluggable 
> tubes that display letters. I now have everything except Q. Arguably, 'L' 
> is sloppy because my only option is to use a '1' for 'I' and 'L', but being 
> able to have 25 of 26 letters allows a lot of words.
>
> [image: tfump.jpg]
>
> On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 11:52:07 AM UTC-7 newxito wrote:
>
>> I find the IN15 nixies very useful and have already used them in two 
>> projects that I otherwise wouldn't have been able to build. But of course, 
>> not at this price...
>>
>> Mac Doktor schrieb am Samstag, 21. März 2026 um 18:11:40 UTC+1:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:35 AM, Peter Hall  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes he was being sarcastic...$20 for $2 in15…
>>>
>>>
>>> You got it. You can get IN-12s for less. Perhaps the first of April came 
>>> early. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:23 AM, Robert G. Schaffrath  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I found it amusing to swap an IN-15 A or B into a Chinese single digit 
>>> IN-12 clock and watch it cycle through the symbols as it counts seconds. 
>>> That is about the only thing I could find them useful for. Granted with an 
>>> IN-15A you can spell words made up of the letters M, P, k, m, n and "u" 
>>> (mu) and with the IN-15B the letters A, F, H, P, V and W (reminds me of the 
>>> end of Wheel of Fortune when you chose a bunch of letters and have no idea 
>>> what the phrase is for the grand prize).
>>>
>>>
>>> I like the way you think. 8D
>>>
>>> Now watch some idiot buy it. It’s a good thing the seller is in the US 
>>> otherwise you’d have to add the tariff.
>>>
>>>
>>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
>>> "The Mac Doctor"
>>>
>>> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>>>
>>> “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't 
>>> go away.”–Philip K. Dick, "I Hope I Shall Arrive Soon"
>>>
>>>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-21 Thread 'bogdan paduraru' via neonixie-l

@ GregNL-1317 has the Q also A,B,G,H,J,P,R,S,T ( NL-5018 style)I have other 2 models that have the Q , but they are not top view On 21 Mar 2026, at 21:57, gregebert wrote:IN-15 tubes came in very handy for a current project, which I wont name here, because it has some other wise hard-to-find letters. Instead of the usual numerals, which are mostly only usable for clock, this has pluggable tubes that display letters. I now have everything except Q. Arguably, 'L' is sloppy because my only option is to use a '1' for 'I' and 'L', but being able to have 25 of 26 letters allows a lot of words.On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 11:52:07 AM UTC-7 newxito wrote:I find the IN15 nixies very useful and have already used them in two projects that I otherwise wouldn't have been able to build. But of course, not at this price...Mac Doktor schrieb am Samstag, 21. März 2026 um 18:11:40 UTC+1:On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:35 AM, Peter Hall wrote:Yes he was being sarcastic...$20 for $2 in15…You got it. You can get IN-12s for less. Perhaps the first of April came early. On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:23 AM, Robert G. Schaffrath wrote:I found it amusing to swap an IN-15 A or B into a Chinese single digit IN-12 clock and watch it cycle through the symbols as it counts seconds. That is about the only thing I could find them useful for. Granted with an IN-15A you can spell words made up of the letters M, P, k, m, n and "u" (mu) and with the IN-15B the letters A, F, H, P, V and W (reminds me of the end of Wheel of Fortune when you chose a bunch of letters and have no idea what the phrase is for the grand prize).I like the way you think. 8DNow watch some idiot buy it. It’s a good thing the seller is in the US otherwise you’d have to add the tariff.
Terry Bowman, KA4HJH"The Mac Doctor"https://www.astarcloseup.com“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.”–Philip K. Dick, "I Hope I Shall Arrive Soon"

Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-21 Thread newxito

I find the IN15 nixies very useful and have already used them in two 
projects that I otherwise wouldn't have been able to build. But of course, 
not at this price...

Mac Doktor schrieb am Samstag, 21. März 2026 um 18:11:40 UTC+1:

>
> On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:35 AM, Peter Hall  wrote:
>
> Yes he was being sarcastic...$20 for $2 in15…
>
>
> You got it. You can get IN-12s for less. Perhaps the first of April came 
> early. 
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:23 AM, Robert G. Schaffrath  
> wrote:
>
> I found it amusing to swap an IN-15 A or B into a Chinese single digit 
> IN-12 clock and watch it cycle through the symbols as it counts seconds. 
> That is about the only thing I could find them useful for. Granted with an 
> IN-15A you can spell words made up of the letters M, P, k, m, n and "u" 
> (mu) and with the IN-15B the letters A, F, H, P, V and W (reminds me of the 
> end of Wheel of Fortune when you chose a bunch of letters and have no idea 
> what the phrase is for the grand prize).
>
>
> I like the way you think. 8D
>
> Now watch some idiot buy it. It’s a good thing the seller is in the US 
> otherwise you’d have to add the tariff.
>
>
> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
> "The Mac Doctor"
>
> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>
> “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't 
> go away.”–Philip K. Dick, "I Hope I Shall Arrive Soon"
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-21 Thread Mac Doktor


> On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:35 AM, Peter Hall  wrote:
> 
> Yes he was being sarcastic...$20 for $2 in15…

You got it. You can get IN-12s for less. Perhaps the first of April came early. 


> On Mar 21, 2026, at 8:23 AM, Robert G. Schaffrath 
>  wrote:
> 
> I found it amusing to swap an IN-15 A or B into a Chinese single digit IN-12 
> clock and watch it cycle through the symbols as it counts seconds. That is 
> about the only thing I could find them useful for. Granted with an IN-15A you 
> can spell words made up of the letters M, P, k, m, n and "u" (mu) and with 
> the IN-15B the letters A, F, H, P, V and W (reminds me of the end of Wheel of 
> Fortune when you chose a bunch of letters and have no idea what the phrase is 
> for the grand prize).

I like the way you think. 8D

Now watch some idiot buy it. It’s a good thing the seller is in the US 
otherwise you’d have to add the tariff.


Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
"The Mac Doctor"

https://www.astarcloseup.com

“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.”–Philip 
K. Dick, "I Hope I Shall Arrive Soon"

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RE: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-21 Thread Peter Hall

Yes he was being sarcastic...$20 for $2 in15...From🚨Peter Hall😁 insidiousnixies🦘Utube On 21 Mar 2026 2:00 pm, Michail Wilson  wrote:

They are IN-15.   I don’t see how that is a deal.   Am I missing something?
 

Michail Wilson
206-920-6312

 


From: [email protected] 
On Behalf Of Mac Doktor
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2026 12:14 PM
To: neonixie-l 
Subject: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain


 
Only $20 apiece:

 


https://www.ebay.com/itm/267614029474


 


 


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Re: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-21 Thread Robert G. Schaffrath

Personally I do not see the value either. They are symbol tubes, not digits 
like the IN-12 which they are plug compatible with. I bought ten NOS IN-15A 
for $18 and ten NOS IN-15B for $16 several years ago just because they were 
so cheap and figured I might have some fun with them. As they are plug 
compatible with the IN-12, I found it amusing to swap an IN-15 A or B into 
a Chinese single digit IN-12 clock and watch it cycle through the symbols 
as it counts seconds. That is about the only thing I could find them useful 
for. Granted with an IN-15A you can spell words made up of the letters M, 
P, k, m, n and "u" (mu) and with the IN-15B the letters A, F, H, P, V and W 
(reminds me of the end of Wheel of Fortune when you chose a bunch of 
letters and have no idea what the phrase is for the grand prize).

$20/each is a crazy price for a non-numeric tube IMHO.

On Saturday, March 21, 2026 at 2:00:46 AM UTC-4 Michail Wilson wrote:

> They are IN-15.   I don’t see how that is a deal.   Am I missing something?
>
>  
>
> Michail Wilson
>
> 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312>
>
>  
>
> *From:* [email protected]  *On Behalf 
> Of *Mac Doktor
> *Sent:* Friday, March 20, 2026 12:14 PM
> *To:* neonixie-l 
> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Super Bargain
>
>  
>
> Only $20 apiece:
>
>  
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/267614029474
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
> "The Mac Doctor"
>
> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>
>
> "There is no Main Street anymore except at Disneyland—and try and buy a 
> gun there"—Hank Hill
>
>  
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RE: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

2026-03-20 Thread Michail Wilson

They are IN-15.   I don’t see how that is a deal.   Am I missing something?

Michail Wilson
206-920-6312

From: [email protected]  On Behalf Of 
Mac Doktor
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2026 12:14 PM
To: neonixie-l 
Subject: [neonixie-l] Super Bargain

Only $20 apiece:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/267614029474


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