Felix:
What has happened through financialization is not the rise of
machines, or some creation of intelligent forms of agency beyond
human comprehension.
Who said any of this is beyond comprehension? If you choose to not even
try to understand something, for your own reasons of *dogma*
OK. It's the machines. You convinced me. Now, what?
Felix
On 09/29/2013 02:34 PM, newme...@aol.com wrote:
It is the machines that are *spying* on us -- not humans. It is the
machines that are taking our jobs -- not humans (now that wage arbitrage is
declining).
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On 29/09/13 14:34, newme...@aol.com wrote:
It is the machines that are *spying* on us -- not humans. It is the
machines that are taking our jobs -- not humans (now that wage arbitrage is
declining).
So if we switch them off, all associated problems go away?
As George Dyson
On 09/30/2013 01:12 PM, Felix Stalder wrote:
OK. It's the machines. You convinced me. Now, what?
Felix
silent chuckle ...
I wanted to throw in my 2pence already a while ago. Last year I had
the opportunity of investigating the matter journalistically, through
a series of interviews, and I
Doug Rushkoff has spoken of the architecture of Lower Manhattan coming to
resemble that of a microprocessor. The gates keep becoming more tightly
packed; for every meter you move closer to the Valhalla (old Verizon co-lo
facility at 375 Pearl st.), you are one nanosecond closer to perfect
insight.
.
Interesting subjects to discuss indeed.
/chadscoville
/www.riftrouter.cx
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From: Armin Medosch [mailto:ar...@easynet.co.uk]
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Hi Armin--
On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Armin Medosch ar...@easynet.co.uk wrote:
In principle, it is important to differentiate between different forms
of algorithmic trading. There are on one hand, large investment banks
and hedge funds who hold large portfolios of different types of stocks
On 09/27/2013 12:21 AM, Brian Holmes wrote:
Finally, I do think that the claim to manage risk through hedging
strategies tends to deny collective responsibility for risks that,
nonetheless, are run by everyone and whose effective consequences are
typically paid for by large numbers of
To restate what Brian wrote, in five times as many words:
I think it's easy (and *usually* reasonable) to say, This thing that's
happening now, and the backlash against it, is just like such-and-such a thing
that happened 100 years ago, and all that fuss turned out to be very silly.
So,
Dave, I am with you and Brian on this one, so I hope this doesn't come
across as merely scholastic. It is not about same vs different, but about
difference-in-sameness or the other way round.
There was a rather sterile episode in economic anthropology along these
lines known as the
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On 09/23/2013 01:46 AM, nettime's avid reader wrote:
The researchers say there’s much more to learn, especially at the border
where human traders and robotic ones interact. One question is whether
moving at computer speeds is inefficient because there’s less
information available at that time
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