Re: Handler server temporarily down
David, Is the handler database still down? I have some updates that I perform every hour, but it seems that the updats have been pretty erratic, has this happened to anyone else? I was just curious as to what the status of the database handler was becuase it seems to effecting the results of my updates. Thanks, Vikas Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - If you would like to unsubscribe from this mailing list send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body "unsubscribe newsclipperlist YOUR_EMAIL_ADDRESS" (without the quotes) or use the form provided at http://www.NewsClipper.com/TechSup.htm#MailingList.
Re: Handler server temporarily down
David, True I am using grep filter map etc... My problem wasnt with the automatic updates. Its when I actually run newsclipper. It goes to your database first to check for updated versions. If I run newsclipper and see that your server is down, it would be nice to turn off databases connection maybe for that one time, and then add it back in once the server problems are fixed. But I guess if you think Newsclipper.pl should always go to the database first then maybe its good to keep things the way they are. I just hope you can get your database server back up!!(not just for us I know servers can be annoying at times). Vikas >From: David Coppit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Mark R. Bowyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Handler server temporarily down >Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 09:41:13 -0400 (EDT) > >On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Mark R. Bowyer wrote: > > > Why can't it just check for a new handler once a day or something? Why > > can't we tune how often it checks, just like we can tune the handlers >for > > how often they check the data they read? Add an option in the config >file > > of the same format? > >In the next version I'm going to make this message a debug message, which >will >prevent emails when the server is down. Secondly, I'll drop it to once a >day. > >In the meantime, you can disable auto-check by modifying this value in your >configuration file: > ># Automatically download any bugfix handlers. (Checks every few hours.) >'auto_download_bugfix_updates' => 'yes', > >Change it to 'no'. > > > Then Vikas can set it to never, I can set it to 9pm, and the default is >the > > current setting or 4-hourly or something. As NewsClipper gets more >popular, > > it'll also cut down on the packet storming of your server, no? > >That may be the right solution. I suspect that the increased traffic is >partly >responsible for the server problems. > >Regards, >David > > >David Coppit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>President, Spinnaker >Software >http://www.newsclipper.com/ -- Snip and ship dynamic content to your >website > > >- >If you would like to unsubscribe from this mailing list send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body "unsubscribe newsclipperlist >YOUR_EMAIL_ADDRESS" (without the quotes) or use the form provided at >http://www.NewsClipper.com/TechSup.htm#MailingList. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - If you would like to unsubscribe from this mailing list send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body "unsubscribe newsclipperlist YOUR_EMAIL_ADDRESS" (without the quotes) or use the form provided at http://www.NewsClipper.com/TechSup.htm#MailingList.
Re: Handler server temporarily down
>From: David Coppit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>In the next version I'm going to make this message a debug message, which will
>prevent emails when the server is down. Secondly, I'll drop it to once a day.
This sounds good =O)
>In the meantime, you can disable auto-check by modifying this value in your
>configuration file:
>
># Automatically download any bugfix handlers. (Checks every few hours.)
>'auto_download_bugfix_updates' => 'yes',
>
>Change it to 'no'.
Guess who only just upgraded from 1.17 to 1.23 an hour or so ago and spotted
this in the config file =O{
Thanks,
Mark.
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RE: Handler server temporarily down
David, Could you please send out a zip file of ALL the handlers so those of us that do not have the ones that we need can manually install them. > -Original Message- > From: David Coppit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 2:41 PM > To: Mark R. Bowyer > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Handler server temporarily down > > > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Mark R. Bowyer wrote: > > > Why can't it just check for a new handler once a day or something? Why > > can't we tune how often it checks, just like we can tune the > handlers for > > how often they check the data they read? Add an option in the > config file > > of the same format? > > In the next version I'm going to make this message a debug > message, which will > prevent emails when the server is down. Secondly, I'll drop it to > once a day. > > In the meantime, you can disable auto-check by modifying this > value in your > configuration file: > > # Automatically download any bugfix handlers. (Checks every few hours.) > 'auto_download_bugfix_updates' => 'yes', > > Change it to 'no'. > > > Then Vikas can set it to never, I can set it to 9pm, and the > default is the > > current setting or 4-hourly or something. As NewsClipper gets > more popular, > > it'll also cut down on the packet storming of your server, no? > > That may be the right solution. I suspect that the increased > traffic is partly > responsible for the server problems. > > Regards, > David > > __ > __ > David Coppit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>President, > Spinnaker Software > http://www.newsclipper.com/ -- Snip and ship dynamic content to > your website > > > - > If you would like to unsubscribe from this mailing list send an > email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body "unsubscribe > newsclipperlist YOUR_EMAIL_ADDRESS" (without the quotes) or use > the form provided at http://www.NewsClipper.com/TechSup.htm#MailingList. > - If you would like to unsubscribe from this mailing list send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body "unsubscribe newsclipperlist YOUR_EMAIL_ADDRESS" (without the quotes) or use the form provided at http://www.NewsClipper.com/TechSup.htm#MailingList.
Re: Handler server temporarily down
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Mark R. Bowyer wrote: > Why can't it just check for a new handler once a day or something? Why > can't we tune how often it checks, just like we can tune the handlers for > how often they check the data they read? Add an option in the config file > of the same format? In the next version I'm going to make this message a debug message, which will prevent emails when the server is down. Secondly, I'll drop it to once a day. In the meantime, you can disable auto-check by modifying this value in your configuration file: # Automatically download any bugfix handlers. (Checks every few hours.) 'auto_download_bugfix_updates' => 'yes', Change it to 'no'. > Then Vikas can set it to never, I can set it to 9pm, and the default is the > current setting or 4-hourly or something. As NewsClipper gets more popular, > it'll also cut down on the packet storming of your server, no? That may be the right solution. I suspect that the increased traffic is partly responsible for the server problems. Regards, David David Coppit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>President, Spinnaker Software http://www.newsclipper.com/ -- Snip and ship dynamic content to your website - If you would like to unsubscribe from this mailing list send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body "unsubscribe newsclipperlist YOUR_EMAIL_ADDRESS" (without the quotes) or use the form provided at http://www.NewsClipper.com/TechSup.htm#MailingList.
Re: Handler server temporarily down
>From: "Vikas Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >David, >Im using the non-windows OS version. Im not using any handlers from your >database. Is there a way to stop/turn off the functionality that goes to >your database first? I was going to ask about this too. I run NewsClipper every 5 minutes while the Markets are open to update the prices on 20-odd stocks, and then have a CGI script that rips out some of the actual values and does some maths to give me a running total on holdings, etc. So when the server is down, I get an email every 5 minutes. Because the handler might change once every month or so. This is, to put it bluntly, *insane*. =O( Why can't it just check for a new handler once a day or something? Why can't we tune how often it checks, just like we can tune the handlers for how often they check the data they read? Add an option in the config file of the same format? Then Vikas can set it to never, I can set it to 9pm, and the default is the current setting or 4-hourly or something. As NewsClipper gets more popular, it'll also cut down on the packet storming of your server, no? Thanks, -My opinion - Not sane, intelligent or necessarily useful- o o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /v\ark R. Bowyer.http://Moredhel.i.ammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] `-' "Micro$oft have performed an illegal operation and will be shut down" - If you would like to unsubscribe from this mailing list send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body "unsubscribe newsclipperlist YOUR_EMAIL_ADDRESS" (without the quotes) or use the form provided at http://www.NewsClipper.com/TechSup.htm#MailingList.
Re: Handler server temporarily down
David, Im using the non-windows OS version. Im not using any handlers from your database. Is there a way to stop/turn off the functionality that goes to your database first? Thanks Vikas >From: David Coppit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: News Clipper Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Handler server temporarily down >Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 00:12:26 -0400 (EDT) > > >Folks, > >Those of you using recent versions of News Clipper have undoubtably noticed >the messages of this sort: > >Couldn't download handler version information for "date". Maybe the server > is down. >Couldn't download handler version information for "string". Maybe the >server > is down. > >We're having a bit of trouble with the handler server. However, don't >worry---you can still run News Clipper using the handlers you've already >installed. The messages are just to let you know that automatic handler >updates won't work until the server is back up. > >However, there is one side effect that may be preventing News Clipper from >finishing it's job. On non-Windows platforms, News Clipper has a self-timer >designed to keep it from running too long (scriptTimeout). It also has a >timeout value for getting data from the Internet (socketTimeout). Lastly, >newer versions of News Clipper also have a socketTries value which tells >News >Clipper how many times to try to connect to a remote server. > >It may be possible that News Clipper is waiting for a long time for the >handler server to respond, and then overrunning its budgeted run time and >aborting. For example, if you have 10 News Clipper input,filter, and output >commands on a web page, then News Clipper would wait 10 * socketTimeout * >socketTries seconds, which may overrun scriptTimeout seconds. The result is >that News Clipper never finishes updating your web pages. > >If your web pages are not being updated, you can edit your NewsClipper.cfg >file to reduce the socketTimeout value (say, 20) and/or increase your >scriptTimeout value. You may also want to reduce the socketTries value to >1. > >In the meantime, we'll kick the server until it gets back to work. :) > >Hope that helps, >David > > >David Coppit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>President, Spinnaker >Software >http://www.newsclipper.com/ -- Snip and ship dynamic content to your >website > > > > >- >If you would like to unsubscribe from this mailing list send an email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body "unsubscribe newsclipperlist >YOUR_EMAIL_ADDRESS" (without the quotes) or use the form provided at >http://www.NewsClipper.com/TechSup.htm#MailingList. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - If you would like to unsubscribe from this mailing list send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body "unsubscribe newsclipperlist YOUR_EMAIL_ADDRESS" (without the quotes) or use the form provided at http://www.NewsClipper.com/TechSup.htm#MailingList.
