[NTG-context] Re: hyphenation inside quotation

2023-08-22 Thread Hans Hagen
and the patch but since than Hans added a few new features to Luametatex to improve the quotation mechanism and the patch results now in the unwanted side effect. I always had \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] in my environments without really understanding it (remark: enables hanging

[NTG-context] Re: hyphenation inside quotation

2023-08-22 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
features to Luametatex to improve the quotation mechanism and the patch results now in the unwanted side effect. I always had \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] in my environments without really understanding it (remark: enables hanging quotation marks). So both methods (font/text

[NTG-context] Re: hyphenation inside quotation

2023-08-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
of \setupdelimitedtext? Quotation is a instance of delimitedtext and the \setupquotation command is \setupdelimitedtext[quotation]. In the next release you don't need the method=font anymore because the missing hyphenation is the result of a old patch which was needed in 2013. Back than

[NTG-context] Re: hyphenation inside quotation

2023-08-19 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On 8/19/23 17:51, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: You can use the font method to have hyphenated words back. The culprit which prevents hyphenation are the penalty settings which are added by ConTeXt when the default method is used. \mainlanguage [de] \setuppapersize [A6]

[NTG-context] Re: hyphenation inside quotation

2023-08-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Thomas A. Schmitz schrieb am 19.08.2023 um 16:01: Hi, is this a limitation or a bug? Text inside \quotation{} is not hyphenated. It appears to be like this for a couple of versions, but I'm not sure if it has always been the case. Silly example to test: You can use the font method to have

[NTG-context] hyphenation inside quotation

2023-08-19 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi, is this a limitation or a bug? Text inside \quotation{} is not hyphenated. It appears to be like this for a couple of versions, but I'm not sure if it has always been the case. Silly example to test: \mainlanguage [de] \setuppapersize [A6] \setupbodyfont [14pt] \starttext

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking

2022-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context
Alan Braslau schrieb am 13.10.2022 um 00:43: On 12/10/22 12/10/22, 14:25, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context wrote: Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 12.10.2022 um 21:17: Instead of what? By default the symbols are placed with a box because you aren't limited to normal quotation marks

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking

2022-10-12 Thread Alan Braslau via ntg-context
On 12/10/22 12/10/22, 14:25, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context wrote: Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 12.10.2022 um 21:17: Instead of what? By default the symbols are placed with a box because you aren't limited to normal quotation marks. \setupexternalfigure [location=default

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking

2022-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context
Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 12.10.2022 um 21:17: Instead of what? By default the symbols are placed with a box because you aren't limited to normal quotation marks. \setupexternalfigure [location=default] \setupdelimitedtext   [quotation]   [ left={\externalfigure[cow][height

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking

2022-10-12 Thread Rik Kabel via ntg-context
} \stopluacode \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=pure] \setupalign[hanging] \starttext This text is unquoted. “This text is quoted manually.” \quotation{This text is quoted by a macro.} This is a very long line followed by a nice linebreak, very supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking

2022-10-12 Thread Denis Maier via ntg-context
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Hans Hagen > via ntg-context > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 21:12 > An: Denis Maier via ntg-context > Cc: Hans Hagen > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking >

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking

2022-10-12 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
On 10/12/2022 8:49 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:15 An: ntg-context@ntg.nl Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] \quotation

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking

2022-10-12 Thread Denis Maier via ntg-context
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Henning > Hraban Ramm via ntg-context > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:15 > An: ntg-context@ntg.nl > Cc: Henning Hraban Ramm > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking &

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking

2022-10-12 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
Am 11.10.22 um 21:06 schrieb Leah Neukirchen: Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context writes: \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] That fixes both issues, thanks! Not sure where I should have learned this exists, however. ;) Oops, I answered only to Leah: I agree. Someone (Hans

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking

2022-10-11 Thread Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context
>> \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=pure] >> \setupalign[hanging] >> \starttext >> This text is unquoted. >> “This text is quoted manually.” >> \quotation{This text is quoted by a macro.} >> This is a very long line followed by a nice l

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking

2022-10-11 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
is unquoted. “This text is quoted manually.” \quotation{This text is quoted by a macro.} This is a very long line followed by a nice linebreak, very supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. This is a very long line followed by an ugly linebreak, not \quotation{supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

[NTG-context] \quotation, protrusion and linebreaking

2022-10-11 Thread Leah Neukirchen via ntg-context
Hello, I noticed the following problem: \showframe \startluacode fonts.protrusions.vectors.pure[0x201C] = { 1, 1 } \stopluacode \definefontfeature[default][default][protrusion=pure] \setupalign[hanging] \starttext This text is unquoted. “This text is quoted manually.” \quotation

Re: [NTG-context] missing space with French quotation

2022-09-22 Thread Peter Münster via ntg-context
On Thu, Sep 22 2022, Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context wrote: > But why use \startquotation when \quotation{something} does the job > just fine? It's not the same: \starttext bla \quotation{quotation} bla \blank[big] bla \startquotation quotation \stopquotation bla \stoptext &

Re: [NTG-context] missing space with French quotation

2022-09-22 Thread Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context
Hi Peter, I know that's not the expected answer and I'm sorry about that. But why use \startquotation when \quotation{something} does the job just fine? I've looked to replicate your MWE and for my part, there's just a space missing at the end of the quote before the last quote (but I'm

[NTG-context] missing space with French quotation

2022-09-21 Thread Peter Münster via ntg-context
Hi, With the latest ConTeXt version, there is a missing space: \mainlanguage[fr] \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] \starttext bla \quotation{OK} bla\\ bla «OK» bla \startquotation Here is missing space \stopquotation \stoptext How could I get back the space before "»" pl

Re: [NTG-context] Curling straight quotation marks

2022-08-24 Thread Thangalin via ntg-context
> > > Just use \quotation and \quote, then you have the right settings for > many languages and can also be sure that quotes get closed and are > consistent over the whole document. > Thanks Hraban. That won't work with my workflow. I edit in Markdown (plain text), transform

Re: [NTG-context] Curling straight quotation marks

2022-08-24 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
/keenquotes/ <https://whitemagicsoftware.com/keenquotes/> I use it for preprocessing documents prior to passing them to ConTeXt. Just use \quotation and \quote, then you have the right settings for many languages and can also be sure that quotes get closed and are consistent over the

[NTG-context] Curling straight quotation marks

2022-08-23 Thread Thangalin via ntg-context
Hey folks, I re-wrote the algorithm KeenWrite uses for curling straight quotes. The new algorithm is fairly robust with respect to North American and British English. Could use help finding edge cases: https://whitemagicsoftware.com/keenquotes/ I use it for preprocessing documents prior to

Re: [NTG-context] french quotation marks

2022-07-26 Thread Denis Maier via ntg-context
espaces fines insécables[23]. Von: ntg-context im Auftrag von Alan via ntg-context Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Juli 2022 20:13:43 An: Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context Cc: Alan Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] french quotation marks On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 13:38:34

Re: [NTG-context] french quotation marks

2022-07-26 Thread Alan via ntg-context
Wikipedia), French uses « > >> … » as double (\quotation) and ‹ … › as single (\quote) quotation > >> marks. > >> > >> The current setting in ConTeXt however is « … » for both, just > >> with less spacing for \quote. > >> If no francophone u

Re: [NTG-context] french quotation marks

2022-07-26 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
Am 26.07.22 um 11:48 schrieb Arthur Rosendahl: On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 09:51:35PM +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: Hi, according to my knowledge (and also Wikipedia), French uses « … » as double (\quotation) and ‹ … › as single (\quote) quotation marks. The current setting

Re: [NTG-context] french quotation marks

2022-07-26 Thread Arthur Rosendahl via ntg-context
On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 09:51:35PM +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote: > Hi, according to my knowledge (and also Wikipedia), French uses « … » as > double (\quotation) and ‹ … › as single (\quote) quotation marks. > > The current setting in ConTeXt however is « … » fo

[NTG-context] french quotation marks

2022-07-12 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context
Hi, according to my knowledge (and also Wikipedia), French uses « … » as double (\quotation) and ‹ … › as single (\quote) quotation marks. The current setting in ConTeXt however is « … » for both, just with less spacing for \quote. If no francophone user objects I’d suggest to fix

Re: [NTG-context] \placeinitial to account for quotation mark

2021-09-26 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context
lways remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world. \chapter{Eleanor Roosevelt} Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. \stoptext However, the leading quotation mark is gobbled. Is ther

Re: [NTG-context] \placeinitial to account for quotation mark

2021-09-26 Thread Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context
nts; small minds > discuss people. > \stoptext > > However, the leading quotation mark is gobbled. Is there any generic way of > detecting a leading quotation mark while keeping initial caps on the first > character? > Not really generic, and maybe not what you want, but there i

Re: [NTG-context] \placeinitial to account for quotation mark

2021-09-25 Thread Thangalin via ntg-context
ience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world. \chapter{Eleanor Roosevelt} Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. \stoptext However, the leading quotation mark is gobbled. Is there any generic way of detecting a leading quotation mark

[NTG-context] \placeinitial to account for quotation mark

2021-09-06 Thread Thangalin via ntg-context
Hi list, The following example shows a lettrine that stylizes a quotation mark: \setuphead[chapter][ after={\placeinitial}, page=no, ] \starttext\chapter{Harriet Tubman} "Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the pa

[NTG-context] Protruding quotation marks obviate narrowed quotations

2020-12-30 Thread Michael Guravage
Several months ago I posed the following question. When I start a paragraph with a \quote or a \quotation the left quotemark does not protrude, but when I use Unicode quotes it does. I would prefer to use the commands. Any suggestions on how I can achieve proper left protrusion without resorting

[NTG-context] Quote mark missing from first paragraph in quotation when location=text

2020-12-06 Thread Michael Murphy
Hi, I have some long dialogue that I'm trying to typeset and I want to use the convention of repeating the open quotation mark on each paragraph of continued dialogue. I know I can set this up by doing something like \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][repeat=yes, middle=\upperleftdoublesixquote

Re: [NTG-context] multiparagraph quotation

2020-11-02 Thread type
into the first line of the example to get it to work: \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][repeat=yes, middle=“, leftmargin=0pt] \starttext \startquotation \input knuth \stopquotation \stoptext It seems like a little bit of overkill to set up a \startquotation \stopquotation for each piece of dialog

Re: [NTG-context] multiparagraph quotation

2020-11-02 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
t...@projectivespace.com schrieb am 02.11.2020 um 18:26: I'm trying to get quotation marks at the beginning of each new paragraph in quotations (in ConTeXt Mk IV), as is the convention in English. Here's a minimal working example of what I have tried: \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][repeat=yes

[NTG-context] multiparagraph quotation

2020-11-02 Thread type
I'm trying to get quotation marks at the beginning of each new paragraph in quotations (in ConTeXt Mk IV), as is the convention in English. Here's a minimal working example of what I have tried: \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][repeat=yes, middle="] \starttext \quotation{\input knuth } \sto

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with footnote

2020-09-16 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
accidentally using MkIV from January: If I used \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font] I didn’t get indentation ("narrower") any more. If I didn’t, the footnote marker moved into the next line. Just to document t

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with footnote

2020-09-04 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 04.09.2020 um 16:20 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster > : > > \startsetups [userdata:myquote] > \startnarrow [left=2em,right=1.5em] > %\dontleavehmode\llap{\symbol[leftquotation]}\getinlineuserdata\symbol[rightquotation] > \symbol[leftquotation]\getinlineuserdata\symbol[rightquotation]

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with footnote

2020-09-04 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 04.09.2020 um 16:04 schrieb Taco Hoekwater : > > Something like this? > > \definenarrower[myquote] > \setupnarrower[myquote] > [left=2em, > right=1.5em, > before=\dontleavehmode\hskip-0.33em\startquote, > after=\stopquote] > > \startmyquote > Im übrigen ist der Mensch ein

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with footnote

2020-09-04 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
=2em, rightmargin=1.5em, ] \startZitat A rose is a rose is a rose.\footnote{Marx brothers} \stopZitat Now, since the quotations are whole sentences or paragraphs, the footnote marker needs to be placed _after_ the closing quotation mark. (German typography, I learned it’s different at least

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with footnote

2020-09-04 Thread Taco Hoekwater
e{Marx brothers} > \stopZitat > > > Now, since the quotations are whole sentences or paragraphs, the footnote > marker needs to be placed _after_ the closing quotation mark. (German > typography, I learned it’s different at least in US English.) > > I tried several approaches e.

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with footnote

2020-09-04 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
tmargin=2em, > rightmargin=1.5em, > ] > > \startZitat > A rose is a rose is a rose.\footnote{Marx brothers} > \stopZitat > > > Now, since the quotations are whole sentences or paragraphs, the footnote > marker needs to be placed _after_ the closing quotation mark. (German

[NTG-context] Quotation with footnote

2020-09-04 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Now, since the quotations are whole sentences or paragraphs, the footnote marker needs to be placed _after_ the closing quotation mark. (German typography, I learned it’s different at least in US English.) I tried several approaches e.g. with my own single start/stop macros that call \start

[NTG-context] Nested quotation and left-hanging punctuation together?

2020-03-01 Thread Tomas Hala
Hi all, I do not know how to activate nested quotation together with left hanging punctuation at all levels. %% MWE: \setupdelimitedtext[quotation:1][method=font]%% cmd #1 \setupdelimitedtext[quotation:2][method=font]%% cmd #2 \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][method=font

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation dash issues with semantic markup

2020-01-18 Thread Hans Hagen
On 1/17/2020 8:11 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: It's possible to use leaders to remove multiple dashes and also dashes at the end of a paragraph but this will only work for the PDF. A limitation is that you can't use the existing \speech and \aside commands because they use groups which

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation dash issues with semantic markup

2020-01-17 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
=\endash~, %    midsentence=~\endash, rightsentence=~\endash] \define\quotedash{\emdash\endash} %\setupbackend[export=yes] \starttext \startsection[title=Introduction] Any of you able to help me get my quotation dashes into line when automatically inserted by the semantic commands?  I'm sure

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation dash issues with semantic markup

2019-12-30 Thread Hans Hagen
=~\endash, rightsentence=~\endash] \define\quotedash{\emdash\endash} %\setupbackend[export=yes] \starttext \startsection[title=Introduction] Any of you able to help me get my quotation dashes into line when automatically inserted by the semantic commands? I'm sure a number of you look

[NTG-context] Quotation dash issues with semantic markup

2019-12-29 Thread Sam May
Any of you able to help me get my quotation dashes into line when automatically inserted by the semantic commands? I'm sure a number of you look at this style and cringe, but A. I'm not looking for grammatical input, and B. I'm intending this for a non-English language where the quotation dash

Re: [NTG-context] Very strange behaviour of itemize, \quotation and \dots

2019-12-17 Thread Hans Hagen
On 12/17/2019 10:04 AM, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Hans, Last week I sent you a PDF showing a strange behaviour of \startitemize and \quotation in LMTX. I finally could nail down the origin of the problem: it seems that if the command \setupsynctex[state=start] is present twice

Re: [NTG-context] Very strange behaviour of itemize, \quotation and \dots

2019-12-17 Thread Hans Hagen
On 12/17/2019 10:04 AM, Otared Kavian wrote: Hi Hans, Last week I sent you a PDF showing a strange behaviour of \startitemize and \quotation in LMTX. I finally could nail down the origin of the problem: it seems that if the command \setupsynctex[state=start] is present twice

[NTG-context] Very strange behaviour of itemize, \quotation and \dots

2019-12-17 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Hans, Last week I sent you a PDF showing a strange behaviour of \startitemize and \quotation in LMTX. I finally could nail down the origin of the problem: it seems that if the command \setupsynctex[state=start] is present twice at the beginning of the document

Re: [NTG-context] Difference between direct use of quotation marks and \quotation

2019-11-24 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> Am 2019-11-24 um 22:22 schrieb denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org: > >> Wolfgang Schuster hat am 23. November >> 2019 um 10:06 geschrieben: >> >> >> denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org schrieb am 23.11.2019 um 00:43: >>> Hi, >>> >>> is it possible to enable hanging punctuation only on the right

Re: [NTG-context] Difference between direct use of quotation marks and \quotation

2019-11-24 Thread denis . maier . lists
> Wolfgang Schuster hat am 23. November > 2019 um 10:06 geschrieben: > > > denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org schrieb am 23.11.2019 um 00:43: > > Hi, > > > > is it possible to enable hanging punctuation only on the right margin? I > > think that's the way the microtype package does that in LaTeX,

Re: [NTG-context] Difference between direct use of quotation marks and \quotation

2019-11-23 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
denis.maier.li...@mailbox.org schrieb am 23.11.2019 um 00:43: Hi, is it possible to enable hanging punctuation only on the right margin? I think that's the way the microtype package does that in LaTeX, but I don't know how to replicate this behavior in ConTeXt. \setupfontprotrusion

Re: [NTG-context] Difference between direct use of quotation marks and \quotation

2019-11-22 Thread denis . maier . lists
cht- > Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Wolfgang > Schuster > Gesendet: Freitag, 22. November 2019 19:04 > An: mailing list for ConTeXt users > Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Difference between direct use of quotation marks > and \quotation > > Tomas Hala schrieb a

Re: [NTG-context] Difference between direct use of quotation marks and \quotation

2019-11-22 Thread Tomas Hala
on has been enabled. # >The difference is in use of quotation marks. (It seems as a language and font independent problem.) # > # >How can I persuade macro \quotation to move the punctuation outside the frame? # \setupdelimitedtext[quotation

Re: [NTG-context] Difference between direct use of quotation marks and \quotation

2019-11-22 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Tomas Hala schrieb am 22.11.2019 um 18:55: Hi all, I have got two "same" documents which differ at the left side when the hanging punctuation has been enabled. The difference is in use of quotation marks. (It seems as a language and font independent problem.) How can I pers

[NTG-context] Difference between direct use of quotation marks and \quotation

2019-11-22 Thread Tomas Hala
Hi all, I have got two "same" documents which differ at the left side when the hanging punctuation has been enabled. The difference is in use of quotation marks. (It seems as a language and font independent problem.) How can I persuade macro \quotation to move the punctuati

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-20 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hi Wolfgang, thanks for your reply. You are right. I shoud say "looks correct" or something like that. Best regards, Atsuhito Kohda ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-20 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
know how to input left, right double quotation marks and accented characters directly with keyboard. It is easier for me to input {``}, {''} and \"u etc than to input utf8 characters with keyboard. I don't say to make tex-style ligature available by default but only to make it available unde

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Atsuhito Kohda schrieb am 20.07.2019 um 01:58: Hi all, I think in the same way as Dmitry. It might be obsolete but, as far as I searched, under the setup \definefontfeature [texligatures] [tlig=yes] \feature[+][texligatures] {''} produces right quotation correctly but left quotation seems

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-20 Thread Denis Maier
Another option: Use the fabulous csquotes-package and map \quotation to \enquote: => ``` \usepackage{csquotes} \let\quotation=\enquote ``` Denis Am Sa., 20. Juli 2019 um 02:57 Uhr schrieb Hans Hagen : > On 7/20/2019 2:07 AM, Alan Braslau wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 08

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 7/20/2019 2:07 AM, Alan Braslau wrote: On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 08:58:27 +0900 Atsuhito Kohda wrote: It is true quotes are language dependent but sometime we need language independent quotes. So it will be nice if we can use {``}, {''} and \quotation at the same time “” indeed

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-19 Thread Alan Braslau
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 08:58:27 +0900 Atsuhito Kohda wrote: > It is true quotes are language dependent but sometime we need > language independent quotes. So it will be nice if we can use > {``}, {''} and \quotation at the

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-19 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hi all, I think in the same way as Dmitry. It might be obsolete but, as far as I searched, under the setup \definefontfeature [texligatures] [tlig=yes] \feature[+][texligatures] {''} produces right quotation correctly but left quotation seems not correct (I don't know why). It is true quotes

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-19 Thread Hans Hagen
On 7/19/2019 6:21 PM, Alan Braslau wrote: On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 18:54:08 +0300 Dmitry Starostin wrote: I understand it might have been deliberately and for various reasons, but ConTeXt has no analogue for {``} and {''} for quotes. \quotation is a replacement, but it is awkward if you write

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-19 Thread Alan Braslau
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 18:54:08 +0300 Dmitry Starostin wrote: > I understand it might have been deliberately and for various reasons, > but ConTeXt has no analogue for {``} and {''} for quotes. \quotation > is a replacement, but it is awkward if you write a draft in ConTeXt > and ma

[NTG-context] Quotation marks

2019-07-19 Thread Dmitry Starostin
I understand it might have been deliberately and for various reasons, but ConTeXt has no analogue for {``} and {''} for quotes. \quotation is a replacement, but it is awkward if you write a draft in ConTeXt and make the final variant in pdfLatex. Is there a ready solution for the quotation marks

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with method=font produces error

2017-10-25 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 10/24/2017 09:51 PM, Christoph Reller wrote: > On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 18:31:24 +0200 Pablo Rodriguez wrote: > [...] > Thank you Pablo for pointing me to the developer's mailing list. I have > not thought about searching through that. So, this is good news for me > and I will wait for the fix.

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with method=font produces error

2017-10-24 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 10/24/2017 07:05 AM, Christoph Reller wrote: > [...] > Thank you Pablo for confirming this! > > Does anybody know whether this is a bug or whether it is the wrong way > to enable font-based kerning for quotations? Hi Christoph, from the devel mailing list

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with method=font produces error

2017-10-23 Thread Christoph Reller
t; >> \setupquotation[method=font] >> \starttext >> \quotation{A} >> \stoptext > > Hi Christoph, > > I’m afraid it fails: > [...] Thank you Pablo for confirming this! Does anybody know whether this is a bug or whether it is the w

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with method=font produces error

2017-10-23 Thread Pablo Rodriguez
On 10/23/2017 09:03 AM, Christoph Reller wrote: > [...] > Could you please confirm (or deny) that the following MWE produces an > error with the currently latest version of ConTeXt: > > \setupquotation[method=font] > \starttext > \quotation{A} > \stoptext Hi Christoph, I

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with method=font produces error

2017-10-23 Thread Christoph Reller
>> wrote: >> > >> > \setupquotation[method=font] >> >> what is the intension of the method=font ? >> >> > Thank you for asking. Consider the following MWE: > > \setupbodyfont[cambria] > %\setupquotation[method=font] > \starttext > \q

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation with method=font produces error

2017-10-19 Thread Christoph Reller
ont ? > > Hi Floris, Thank you for asking. Consider the following MWE: \setupbodyfont[cambria] %\setupquotation[method=font] \starttext \quotation{A}\crlf “A” \stoptext In the output rendering of the above (see attachment), the first line lacks kerning between the double quotes and the letter

[NTG-context] Quotation with method=font produces error

2017-10-17 Thread Christoph Reller
Hi, In previous versions of ConTeXt the following MWE worked: \setupquotation[method=font] \starttext \quotation{A} \stoptext In more recent versions, the above produces an error: ! Extra }, or forgotten \endgroup l.3 \quotation{A} Is this a bug? Regards, Christoph

Re: [NTG-context] references.bookmarks.preroll and quotation

2016-12-21 Thread Hans Hagen
On 12/21/2016 8:28 AM, Christoph Reller wrote: Hi, I have the following MWE: \setupinteraction[state=start] \placebookmarks[chapter] \enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll] \starttext \startchapter[title=B \quotation{C} D] \input ward \stopchapter \stoptext The generated bookmark

[NTG-context] references.bookmarks.preroll and quotation

2016-12-20 Thread Christoph Reller
Hi, I have the following MWE: \setupinteraction[state=start] \placebookmarks[chapter] \enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll] \starttext \startchapter[title=B \quotation{C} D] \input ward \stopchapter \stoptext The generated bookmark has wrongly placed spaces: B“ C ” D Without

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with the environment {\quotation}

2016-07-21 Thread Fabrice Couvreur
thanks Aditya Fabrice 2016-07-21 2:05 GMT+02:00 Aditya Mahajan <adit...@umich.edu>: > On Thu, 21 Jul 2016, Fabrice Couvreur wrote: > > Hello, >> With the latest version of Standalone Context, environment {\quotation} >> causes a compilation error but with texlive

Re: [NTG-context] Problem with the environment {\quotation}

2016-07-20 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016, Fabrice Couvreur wrote: Hello, With the latest version of Standalone Context, environment {\quotation} causes a compilation error but with texlive 2016, no problem. thanks, Fabrice \mainlanguage[fr] \starttext Seuls les nombres vont servir aux calculs, le gérant peut

[NTG-context] Problem with the environment {\quotation}

2016-07-20 Thread Fabrice Couvreur
Hello, With the latest version of Standalone Context, environment {\quotation} causes a compilation error but with texlive 2016, no problem. thanks, Fabrice \mainlanguage[fr] \starttext Seuls les nombres vont servir aux calculs, le gérant peut donc résumer ce tableau à l'aide du seul tableau

Re: [NTG-context] kerning with \quotation

2016-03-06 Thread Schmitz Thomas A.
> On 06 Mar 2016, at 15:56, Hans Hagen wrote: > > \setupdelimitedtext > [method=font] Excellent - thanks Hans! Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to

Re: [NTG-context] kerning with \quotation

2016-03-06 Thread Hans Hagen
On 3/6/2016 2:19 PM, Schmitz Thomas A. wrote: Hi all, short example in extra big size to make the effect visible: \setupbodyfont [termes,48pt] \mainlanguage [de] \starttext „Vater“ \quotation{Vater} \stoptext In the first line, the character „ has a bit of kerning with the following V

[NTG-context] kerning with \quotation

2016-03-06 Thread Schmitz Thomas A.
Hi all, short example in extra big size to make the effect visible: \setupbodyfont [termes,48pt] \mainlanguage [de] \starttext „Vater“ \quotation{Vater} \stoptext In the first line, the character „ has a bit of kerning with the following V (could be even more, to my taste

Re: [NTG-context] Quotation blocs with repetition symbol in the left column

2014-06-01 Thread Stéphane Goujet
fortuitously learned on Luatex mailing list that it only took this command : \localleftbox{} So, the quotation block would be : \define\qbopen{«} \define\qbrep{»} \define\qbclose{»} \definestartstop [bloccite] [before=\qbopen~\begingroup\localleftbox{\qbrep~}, after

Re: [NTG-context] can not get the quotation marks from the fallback fonts

2014-01-08 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 08.01.2014 um 08:57 schrieb Li Yanrui (李延瑞) liyanrui...@gmail.com: Thank you, Wolfgang. I have find the new simplefonts can solve these problems after i posted that mail. This is a good news for me athough it appeared for a long time. The \definefallbackfamily uses “force=yes” and

[NTG-context] can not get the quotation marks from the fallback fonts

2014-01-07 Thread 李延瑞
Hi, i find the quotation marks in those chinese fallback fonts can not work as before. They always be replaced with the latin fonts. please see the following example: \definefontsynonym[pagella][name:texgyrepagellaregular] \definefontfallback[song][name:adobesongstd][0x00400-0x2FA1F

Re: [NTG-context] can not get the quotation marks from the fallback fonts

2014-01-07 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 08.01.2014 um 03:23 schrieb Li Yanrui (李延瑞) liyanrui...@gmail.com: Hi, i find the quotation marks in those chinese fallback fonts can not work as before. They always be replaced with the latin fonts. please see the following example: \definefontsynonym[pagella

Re: [NTG-context] can not get the quotation marks from the fallback fonts

2014-01-07 Thread 李延瑞
Thank you, Wolfgang. I have find the new simplefonts can solve these problems after i posted that mail. This is a good news for me athough it appeared for a long time. -- Best regards, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) ___ If your

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-26 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2013-12-25 um 17:25 schrieb Rudolf Bahr qu...@quasi.de: Nearly all of the hundreds of fraktur-fonts in the world have problems, as reported by the program fontforge. But even worse, mostly there is a lack of umlauts, 2 of 3 needed different s and a lack of ligatures. And only very,

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-26 Thread Rudolf Bahr
minutes by creating my own \glqq and \grqq. Next time I will strive for a solution with \quotation{...}. Greetings, Rudolf On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 02:27:10PM +0600, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Am 2013-12-25 um 17:25 schrieb Rudolf Bahr qu...@quasi.de: Nearly all of the hundreds of fraktur

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
of not to be forced to change too much in a given text. I solved my problem within 10 minutes by creating my own \glqq and \grqq. Next time I will strive for a solution with \quotation{…}. Have you tried the unifraktur fonts, as you can see on the website the font has features to change the umlauts and also

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-26 Thread Rudolf Bahr
] \setupbodyfont[mainface] \definefontfeature [longs] [cv11=yes] \definefontfeature [diaeresis] [cv15=yes] \mainlanguage[de] \starttext \input knuth schönstes – {\feature[+][longs]schönstes} ſchön Üben – {\feature[+][diaeresis]ſchön Üben} \quotation{Quoted text} \stoptext

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-26 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
is that \quotation{...} is not possible. Perhaps yfrak will be repaired one day. Then just type in (or copy and paste) your long s directly: ſ We live in Unicode land nowadays, you know. ;-) Since yfrak has no automatic replacement either, it’s surely not more complicated. (Might be interesting

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-26 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
[+][diaeresis]ſchön Üben} \quotation{Quoted text} \stoptext Wolfgang This is the answer of my context (version: 2013.05.28 00:36): l.2 \definefontfamily [mainface][rm][Unifraktur Maguntia] ? h The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-26 Thread Rudolf Bahr
this Knuth-text with many wrong ses and without any quotation at all? Let's finish the discussion here. The subject was: \quotation with yfrak-font? and we went off course. I thank you, Wolfgang and Hraban, for having answered! Happy New Year to all contexters in the world! Rudolf

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-25 Thread Rudolf Bahr
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:38:58PM +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 22.12.2013 um 11:26 schrieb Rudolf Bahr qu...@quasi.de: In the following minimal example I'd like to get quotation marks around the Nein!, but I don't

[NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-22 Thread Rudolf Bahr
In the following minimal example I'd like to get quotation marks around the Nein!, but I don't: \starttext \language[de] \pdfmapline{yfrak yfrak.pfb} \definefont[YfrakFont][yfrak at 11pt] \YfrakFont Zu meinem Vorschlag sagte das: M

Re: [NTG-context] \quotation with yfrak-font?

2013-12-22 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 22.12.2013 um 11:26 schrieb Rudolf Bahr qu...@quasi.de: In the following minimal example I'd like to get quotation marks around the Nein!, but I don't: \starttext \language[de] \pdfmapline{yfrak yfrak.pfb} \definefont

Re: [NTG-context] open quotation not working

2013-10-22 Thread Mojca Miklavec
use real quotation marks “ and ” or \quotation{…}. Or \quotedblleft, \quotedblright, \quotedblbase, no name for 201F. For the flowing text these are a bit too long to use and remember for my taste though. LaTeX sometimes uses \grqq \glqq which are a whole lot shorter, but also not the easiest one

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