Re: [oshca_members] RE: [openhealth] Using Cell Phones to interface with OpenMRS
This thread is becoming an eye opener into the practical world of mobile solutions and integration with EMRs despite it focused earlier on a project need. I am taking note of all this information and knowledge being shared amongst the open source health care community and sum it up. I will also be testing some of the solutions that have their code accessible. I was wondering, does anyone have access to T-1 Mobile Sets that run android? I learnt from the MOCA team yesterday that these may cost $400 a piece and of course the duty/customs charges to Pakistan would add up. I was wondering if anyone would like to step up and help us or participate with us because the scope of our project is large. Here is a link to our project that has a scope of opening up 500 tele-health centres and pharmacies throughout the country with two pilots already up and running http://www.sehatfirst.com. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Tony McCormick wrote: > We have a lightweight app written in Java that we run from a 1 gig or > smaller USB thumb drive that synchronizes with OpenEMR via SFTP. IT was > designed to be used offline in the patients home and then sync up when > you out are on the internet (or intranet). > > It's a very flexible framework for data collection as the forms and > rules can be modified without any coding. We call it MEDICS, MI2 > Encrypted Data/Information Collection System. see www.mi-squared.com > for a full users guide in PDF > > We are pretty close to getting it cleaned up enough to make it an FOSS > application. It works well in Windows and Linux. We have been talking > about porting it to the andriod platform or i-phone, etc. Right now we > run it on netbooks like the Acer Aspire (XP) or the ASUS eee-PC > (eeubuntu or xandros) > > --Tony McCormick > > Tim Cook wrote: >> On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 14:41 +0500, Fouad Bajwa wrote: >> >> >>> What are the recommendations of the members of this list? >>> >> >> First I would contact the people at http://www.opentapas.org/ to learn >> about their experiences with the North Shore Mobile project. They used >> PDAs to sync to EMRs. It doesn't sound like it was as "live" as your >> looking for but they learned a lot. I was only there during the >> beginning so I'm not familiar with the outcomes. >> >> Then I would contact BeatrizdeFariaLeao about >> their work with store and forward in the outer reaches of Brazil using >> satellite phones. >> >> Good Luck. >> >> --Tim >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > -- Regards. -- Fouad Bajwa @skBajwa Answering all your technology questions http://www.askbajwa.com http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa
Re: [oshca_members] RE: [openhealth] Using Cell Phones to interface with OpenMRS
We have a lightweight app written in Java that we run from a 1 gig or smaller USB thumb drive that synchronizes with OpenEMR via SFTP. IT was designed to be used offline in the patients home and then sync up when you out are on the internet (or intranet). It's a very flexible framework for data collection as the forms and rules can be modified without any coding. We call it MEDICS, MI2 Encrypted Data/Information Collection System. see www.mi-squared.com for a full users guide in PDF We are pretty close to getting it cleaned up enough to make it an FOSS application. It works well in Windows and Linux. We have been talking about porting it to the andriod platform or i-phone, etc. Right now we run it on netbooks like the Acer Aspire (XP) or the ASUS eee-PC (eeubuntu or xandros) --Tony McCormick Tim Cook wrote: > On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 14:41 +0500, Fouad Bajwa wrote: > > >> What are the recommendations of the members of this list? >> > > First I would contact the people at http://www.opentapas.org/ to learn > about their experiences with the North Shore Mobile project. They used > PDAs to sync to EMRs. It doesn't sound like it was as "live" as your > looking for but they learned a lot. I was only there during the > beginning so I'm not familiar with the outcomes. > > Then I would contact BeatrizdeFariaLeao about > their work with store and forward in the outer reaches of Brazil using > satellite phones. > > Good Luck. > > --Tim > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [oshca_members] RE: [openhealth] Using Cell Phones to interface with OpenMRS
On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 14:41 +0500, Fouad Bajwa wrote: > What are the recommendations of the members of this list? First I would contact the people at http://www.opentapas.org/ to learn about their experiences with the North Shore Mobile project. They used PDAs to sync to EMRs. It doesn't sound like it was as "live" as your looking for but they learned a lot. I was only there during the beginning so I'm not familiar with the outcomes. Then I would contact BeatrizdeFariaLeao about their work with store and forward in the outer reaches of Brazil using satellite phones. Good Luck. --Tim -- Timothy Cook, MSc Health Informatics Research & Development Services LinkedIn Profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothywaynecook Skype ID == timothy.cook ** *You may get my Public GPG key from popular keyservers or * *from this link http://timothywayne.cook.googlepages.com/home* ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [oshca_members] RE: [openhealth] Using Cell Phones to interface with OpenMRS
In my opinion this is one important research aspect to take up at OSHCA within these two years towards creating an interoperable framework for mobile connectivity with some of the major widely used HMIS like OpenMRS, OSCAR or Vista. Something on the grounds of MOCA's www.mocamobile.org Android capability can act as the first point of reference for development and integration of such a framework. I am going to see if I can work with colleagues here in Pakistan to create this initial test bed to first test MOCA and other resources and then structure a possible strategy for creation of an initiative that focuses on creating a most usable mobile interaction framework to existing HMIS within the reference of open source. What are the recommendations of the members of this list? On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Fouad Bajwa wrote: > From what I see from all the projects, no one seems to be giving > strong options except for OSCAR and OpenMRS, most of the solutions > seem to be talking about it but nothing actually operational. > > What happens in the field is that due to lack of computer skills as > well as doctors, the Mobile solution is the best option, both can be > explored, the smart browser access is just like accessing a computer > but with a minimal interface and again requires a considerable amount > of skilled handling. The SMS option is also viable to offer lesser > amount of skill and alot of healthworkers know how to navigate an > English language enabled interface. > > Have a look at the website for MoCa: www.mocamobile.org a solution > that combines MOCA and OpenMRS as a very good option. It uses the > Android api over a T-Mobile but the problem is I can't seem to find > the code nor a single T-Mobile in Pakistan. > > One thing is to use such solutions in our 500 telehealth centre > franchise plan as we are going the open source route and I am going to > include the OSCAR option for testing as well and the second is to > promote through OSHCA a more closer look into available and future > options and find means to strengthen such projects. > > Have a look at the website for MoCa: www.mocamobile.org > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Chris Seebregts > wrote: >> Hi Fouad >> >> >> >> I am forwarding your request for information concerning cell phone >> integration with OpernMRS to the OpenMRS and JavaROSA developers lists. We >> are planning a link between OpenMRS and JavaROSA (a mobile phone application >> library; http://www.dimagi.com/content/javarosa.html) to enable patient >> record forms to be completed on a mobile phone and used to update the >> OpenMRS server. As far as I know the application is still in a planning >> phase but other may know more than I. In particular, Daniel Kayiwa has >> previously demonstrated some working functionality using XForms. >> >> >> >> My understanding is that the link will receive active developer attention in >> coming months. >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Fouad Bajwa >> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 5:21 PM >> To: OSHCA Members List; [email protected] >> Subject: [openhealth] Using Cell Phones to interface with OpenMRS >> >> >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I am in an activity where I am testing a series of tools to update a >> EMR using cell phones. >> >> I wanted to see how others have approached this issue and what has >> been their strategy and tool-set as its better to use something >> already there instead of re-inventing the wheel. >> >> Has anyone tried using OpenMRS updates using a Cell Phone. In this >> case, I am researching two options: >> >> 1. SMS based updates to a server running OpenMRS and the facility to >> respond back >> >> 2. A front end application that can give a simple interface on a >> hand-held to update patient records and preliminary check-up as well >> as prescription >> >> -- >> >> Regards. >> -- >> Fouad Bajwa >> http://www.askbajwa.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> oshca_members mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/oshca_members >> > > > > -- > > Regards. > -- > Fouad Bajwa > @skBajwa > Answering all your technology questions > http://www.askbajwa.com > http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa > -- Regards. -- Fouad Bajwa @skBajwa Answering all your technology questions http://www.askbajwa.com http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa
Re: [oshca_members] RE: [openhealth] Using Cell Phones to interface with OpenMRS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fouad Bajwa wrote: >>From what I see from all the projects, no one seems to be giving > strong options except for OSCAR and OpenMRS, most of the solutions > seem to be talking about it but nothing actually operational. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/mobile-usability.html In 1999-2000 I was involved in a project where some of the sales team's interest was in m-commerce. I now carry an iPhone, and it might be just about getting up to usability for some things, as Nielsen says. Given the main developed function of a mobile phone, I wonder if we should be looking at the Sphinx work from Carnegie-Mellon university, in speech recognition and speech command interfaces, and the converse to it, Festival from there and Edinburgh university, for voice generation. - -- A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmsXgYACgkQb80am9d/Stfk2gCdG/RM37gzxaQb/BGnq3H5onke /PgAoKFYn/aNf5lMmOYswKXDa3zmPRaz =un8x -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [oshca_members] RE: [openhealth] Using Cell Phones to interface with OpenMRS
>From what I see from all the projects, no one seems to be giving strong options except for OSCAR and OpenMRS, most of the solutions seem to be talking about it but nothing actually operational. What happens in the field is that due to lack of computer skills as well as doctors, the Mobile solution is the best option, both can be explored, the smart browser access is just like accessing a computer but with a minimal interface and again requires a considerable amount of skilled handling. The SMS option is also viable to offer lesser amount of skill and alot of healthworkers know how to navigate an English language enabled interface. Have a look at the website for MoCa: www.mocamobile.org a solution that combines MOCA and OpenMRS as a very good option. It uses the Android api over a T-Mobile but the problem is I can't seem to find the code nor a single T-Mobile in Pakistan. One thing is to use such solutions in our 500 telehealth centre franchise plan as we are going the open source route and I am going to include the OSCAR option for testing as well and the second is to promote through OSHCA a more closer look into available and future options and find means to strengthen such projects. Have a look at the website for MoCa: www.mocamobile.org On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Chris Seebregts wrote: > Hi Fouad > > > > I am forwarding your request for information concerning cell phone > integration with OpernMRS to the OpenMRS and JavaROSA developers lists. We > are planning a link between OpenMRS and JavaROSA (a mobile phone application > library; http://www.dimagi.com/content/javarosa.html) to enable patient > record forms to be completed on a mobile phone and used to update the > OpenMRS server. As far as I know the application is still in a planning > phase but other may know more than I. In particular, Daniel Kayiwa has > previously demonstrated some working functionality using XForms. > > > > My understanding is that the link will receive active developer attention in > coming months. > > > > Regards > > > > Chris > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Fouad Bajwa > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 5:21 PM > To: OSHCA Members List; [email protected] > Subject: [openhealth] Using Cell Phones to interface with OpenMRS > > > > Hi Everyone, > > I am in an activity where I am testing a series of tools to update a > EMR using cell phones. > > I wanted to see how others have approached this issue and what has > been their strategy and tool-set as its better to use something > already there instead of re-inventing the wheel. > > Has anyone tried using OpenMRS updates using a Cell Phone. In this > case, I am researching two options: > > 1. SMS based updates to a server running OpenMRS and the facility to > respond back > > 2. A front end application that can give a simple interface on a > hand-held to update patient records and preliminary check-up as well > as prescription > > -- > > Regards. > -- > Fouad Bajwa > http://www.askbajwa.com > > > > ___ > oshca_members mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.oshca.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/oshca_members > -- Regards. -- Fouad Bajwa @skBajwa Answering all your technology questions http://www.askbajwa.com http://twitter.com/fouadbajwa
