Hello Darrell,

To prevent development from slowing to
an absolute crawl at times when I get
stuck or too busy I pass issues to
contractors.  This is not a regular
occurrence but still my biggest
out-of-pocket expense related to the
project.

I'd actually like to do this more often
to get things done faster.  Also, it
seems that we will have to start
working with Microsoft support in the
near future.  I haven't had to do this
in the past but things are settling
down and the more difficult
compatibility problems remain.  An MS
incident is about $250 each I believe.

None of this would be needed if we
had a few capable volunteer developers
though.  But I'm not holding my breath
at this point :)

Though for the project to become a
viable Open Source project, we will
have to find a way to attract those
volunteers.  I honestly do not know
why we have done so badly in this
area.  But for the almost 4 years of
existence as a Sourceforge project
we have attracted 3 developer
contributions outside my own.

Unpaid developer work probably adds
up to about 200 lines of code.
Excluding external projects but
including rewrites Open Connector
has definitely had 10+ _thousand_
lines of code written.  Most likely
a lot more, haven't checked.

Is there something in particular
that makes that project unattractive
to get into?

So to see this project to completion
I'd say choose one of those in that
order...

1. Volunteer development time if you
   have the relevant background.

2. Bribe, blackmail or otherwise
   convince someone with that skill-
   set to help out with the project :)

3. Consider donating any amount to
   the project to offset expenses.

To give an idea of the work needed...

Most estimates and accounts I've
received suggest that an Outlook
connector project requires 3-6 full-
time developers 6-12 months to
complete.  Also, that is considering
that they do not write the entire
project from scratch.  We are writing
from scratch given that the code is
LGPL.

The upside is though that we already
have a working connector.  But there
is still work to get it to finished
and optimized.

Best regards,
Kervin


--- Darrell McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Kervin-
> 
> You mention "...access to funds..."  give me some
> perspective if you 
> would please as to what amounts of money might be
> helpful/relevant to 
> different tasks.   If  someone can throw in a couple
> hundred here and 
> there is that actually useful, or are you only
> talking about relevant 
> amounts only being in the thousands or tens of
> thousands of dollars?
> 
> Thanks,
>    Darrell McGuire
>    Pegasys Computer Technologies, Inc.
> 
> Kervin L. Pierre wrote:
> 
> >Hello Marc,
> >
> >Thanks for the feedback.
> >
> >That bug has been fixed in the current
> >version.  Please try Milestone 2 when
> >that comes out.  Thanks.
> >
> >It's caused by a faulty check on my
> >part.  Your configuration settings are
> >ok, but the file check fails due to
> >locking.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Kervin
> >
> >--- Marc Boschma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I installed the Alpha connector and tried to
> >>configure a file backed  
> >>account but I continually get "Please Configure an
> >>Open Connector"
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>How do I get started?
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Marc
> >>
> >>On 27/09/2006, at 1:21 AM, Kervin L. Pierre wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Hello,
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for your continued interest in Outlook
> >>>Connector.
> >>>
> >>>Yes we have been taking our time on this one
> >>>haven't we :)
> >>>
> >>>The project is moving forward though.  I am
> >>>hoping that stable, functioning betas will
> >>>attract new resources to the project in the
> >>>future.  But as you've suspected, as of now,
> >>>resources are very limited.
> >>>
> >>>Quick status
> >>>1. MAPI Message Storage Provider and MAPI
> >>>   Transport provider both work.  There hasn't
> >>>   been _any_ performance optimization on those
> >>>   yet, so expect a first run of >3mins and
> >>>   subsequent startups may take that long as
> >>>   well.  Performance optimization is scheduled
> >>>   for last.  But the core functionality for
> >>>   adding/deleting/modifying CalDAV events on
> >>>   CalDAV servers work and have been tested
> >>>   on Cosmo [ http://cosmo.osafoundation.org ]
> >>>   and Oracle CalDAV [ not released as yet ].
> >>>
> >>>2. The final major component left for
> >>>   development, The address book provider is
> >>>   being worked on.  This where I've been
> >>>   spending my dev time lately.  This will will
> >>>   allow the sharing of individual calendars.
> >>>   I estimate this component can be in Beta
> >>>   with a solid month on development; but that
> >>>   depends on our our other/paid projects are
> >>>   going.
> >>>
> >>>3. Working on getting Bedework CalDAV
> >>>   [ http://bedework.org ] support done.
> >>>
> >>>4. The MS2 is 'Milestone 2'.  The current
> >>>   build on sourceforge is 'Milestone 1'.
> >>>   That was the first 'release' build of the
> >>>   project that would actually do something
> >>>   useful.  It will add/modify/delete CalDAV
> >>>   events on a CalDAV server.  MS2 fixes a
> >>>   few annoying bugs so that users can test
> >>>   individual calendars a bit more.  It also
> >>>   introduces a new refactored set of
> >>>   objects in the two providers, and a stub
> >>>   provider for the adress book.  I hope to
> >>>   put this out by Wednesday, but as usual
> >>>   things are being delayed by other
> >>>   projects, so maybe this weekend instead.
> >>>   As soon as it is verified that the recent
> >>>   changes have not broken the CalDAV
> >>>   protocol interaction with the supported
> >>>   servers ( Bedework, Cosmo, Oracle ), it
> >>>   will be released.
> >>>
> >>>After we have the address book provider working
> >>>I will focus on speed/memory optimization and
> >>>the random features that testers may require.
> >>>
> >>>The 3 month target is definitely doable.  I'd
> >>>like it to be more like 2.  But that's not 100%
> >>>up to me.  Someone with very strong C++/Win32/
> >>>COM experience and has access to the relevant
> >>>tools ( MSVC 2005, Outlook 2003 ) would make a
> >>>_huge_ difference if they put in a 5+ hrs/week
> >>> on this.  Also access to funds to open tickets
> >>>with MS, get other consultants, offset time
> >>>expense would help as well.
> >>>
> >>>Best regards,
> >>>Kervin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--- Matthew Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>  I've been following this project since 2005
> (and
> >>>>occasionally before
> >>>>then). Since the 6/12/06 Alpha release, there
> has
> >>>>been no messaging on
> >>>>the list. But I do see that the SVN has much
> more
> >>>>activity, entirely by
> >>>>Kervin (as is practically all development for
> the
> >>>>length of the
> >>>>project). Now some source is "Ready for server
> >>>>testing, prior to MS2.",
> >>>>but I don't know what that means.
> >>>>
> >>>>  Is this a one-man project, with basically only
> >>>>Kervin producing it? Has
> >>>>it stalled? Is there any chance that it will
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>produce
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>a releasable
> >>>>connector within the next 3-9 months running as
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>it
> >>    
> >>
> >>>>is currently?
> >>>>--  
> >>>>
> >>>>(C) Matthew Rubenstein
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>        
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