Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
That's exactly right. On 5/3/2017 10:41 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: Let's remember when you buy the Victor stream you are paying for a player that plays specially formatted books with a few features for added convinceconveniences -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent:

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Gary Schindler
Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder? On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
The only things I can compare to even the clasic Victors and the Strattus is tape players. I don't know why HumanWare has chosen that tape player quality for though. On 5/3/2017 10:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I'm telling you now, - regardless of the bit rate - the speaker in the Stream

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah that's right the origenal Stream handeled the Bard Books way before the NLS came out with their own player. You're right. On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with a few features added for convenience. actually

Re: OT maybe Grundig G3 radio

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
No, the Kydo 1103 or G5 takes 4 standard AA cells, rechargeable or alkaline. On 4/05/2017 12:30 AM, Bob Hicks wrote: Yes, thanks for the info. I also have the Reporter G2. I need a replacement battery for it. Is that one you are referring too? Have a great day! Bob Hicks -Original

RE: OT maybe Grundig G3 radio

2017-05-03 Thread Bob Hicks
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give that a try. As for the radio, I only use it for basic needs and AM and FM work just fine. Have a great day! Bob Hicks -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
I'm telling you now, - regardless of the bit rate - the speaker in the Stream could have a better sound, just plug a very average sounding spekaer you can get at the discount store and you'll soon see what I mean. I really need to rack my brains to find anything I have here that sounds

RE: OT maybe Grundig G3 radio

2017-05-03 Thread Bob Hicks
Yes, thanks for the info. I also have the Reporter G2. I need a replacement battery for it. Is that one you are referring too? Have a great day! Bob Hicks -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, May 03,

Re: OT maybe Grundig G3 radio

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
I have the previous model referred to in teh review, took it out to remember the radio again as its been a while since I explored the machine. Again I say that - if you can get the Kydo 1103 as its known now - then you're getting a really hot little radio on all bands at a bargain price.

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Chris Skarstad
I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah. Now I've not even seen the Blaze. So can't really Judge 1. But yeah as good as the Plextalks sound to me sure they're no Bose. But meh okay for MP3 at 32 kbps. I think this is why most DAISY players ain't real good. Cause DAISY books. Talking Books are mostly recorded at kinda low

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay normally I'd agree with you but in this case? We're not being picky about audio, fact is the speaker in the VR Stream 2nd generation - whilst a vast improvement on that of the 1st generation - is not a good speaker. On 3/05/2017 11:05 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I think that's just the

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Gary Schindler
Let's remember when you buy the Victor stream you are paying for a player that plays specially formatted books with a few features for added convinceconveniences -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re:

RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Tom Kaufman
Dane: I guess I am missing something, but I have just finished comparing the sound of my VR Stream to the sound of my speaker on my Iphone 6; I fail to hear this "muffleness" that you speak of on the stream! Granted: the Iphone is a bit easier on my ears than the VR Stream! But with the VR

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
Sorry but a lot of you still don't seem to get my point. Yes, the VR Stream is designed with speech in mind that I grant you and I have absolutely no arguement with that but the internal speaker - even by speech standards - is not good, very mid-range yes but lacking top so some people may

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
Well know, I don't have to remember that at all because we can argue - quite correctly - that we're paying a premium price for this technology, technology - hardware and software in the main - which is common place and in the public domain. On 4/05/2017 12:41 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: Let's

RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Tom Kaufman
Amen, Gary! -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Schindler Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 10:56 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Remember that the Victor stream

RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Adrian Spratt
With the Humanware Companion software, I download BARD books from the website to my PC, where the Companion software automatically organizes them into alphabetically-arranged folders. Then I copy the books to my Stream using an SD card. Very fast and no thinking involved. -Original

SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi They also have a version without all the scanning jazz for about the same price as the Stream. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Gary Schindler Sendt: 3. maj 2017 16:56 Til: PC Audio Discussion List

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Gary Schindler
Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary

RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Humberto Rodriguez
I am amazed that during this long discussion nobody has mentioned the Milestone, that Swiss machine with great speaker sound that also plays NLS books and is much smaller than the VRS. Perhaps because it does not have Wi-Fi? Humberto Humberto Rodriguez Fort White, Florida -Original

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah it's also wider on the IPhone. Also Dain like me could be spoiled by hi end audio. lol Not bashing ya Dain. Just remember my story when I brought out my PTR1. Which was my favorite. I've been so spoiled by Bose that I was like oh yuck what the heck is this? No harsh crisp s's or f's.

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the MileStone cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. This comming from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out cause my DM420 died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts as it doesn't hold your

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah. But for DTBs though now RFB as it use to be called has an app. Bard has an app. So just for books alone I'm not sure 1 can justify these things no more. Other than that the VRStream or what I would prefer the Plextalk Pocket are just for that alone. On 5/3/2017 4:56 PM, Gary Schindler

RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Jamie Kelly
The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yep and thanks for mentioning this, - now that I’ve seen the VR Stream - the Blaze ET will certainly be on my shopping list. As to why the ET wasn’t mentioned before? Probably for the simple reason that we were wasting our collective time discussing the VR Stream . > On 3 May 2017, at 5:15 pm,

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . > On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan wrote: > > Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Tim Noonan
Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording