I've recently written an introductory guide to
Audacity for users of the Jaws screen reader. It's
available in the Audio section of this webpage:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/jaws-guides/
Any comments or suggestions about the guide would be
gratefully recieved,
David Bailes
of the columns - if you want to ensure
it only matches to an artist, type eg, artist:bono.
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list view!).
2. insert a blank cd.
3. To add items to the burn list: select items in the
primary list view, press the application key, and
choose add to burn list from the shortcut menu.
4. To burn the cd, press the start burn button at the
end of the list pane, or press alt + s.
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will be delayed by
that amount (which can be negative).
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Now, I have another
problem. I am trying to record a couple of my friends
singing a song
with a karaoke track. It seems that when Audacity lays
down the
vocals, there is a delay
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on updating the
library. This may help,
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Hi, listers,
I am running Windows Vista Home Premium. I am trying
to add to my library in
Windows MediaPlayer version 11. I am pointing at a
folder of .mp3 files but I
can't seem to get the files in a list or if I am, I
can't
Hi,
If you're familiar with winamp, it's probalby easier
to stay with this program. But if you want to try and
use Windows Media Player 11 there's a guide for jaws
users running under Windows XP at:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Windows-Media-Player-11-Guide.html
Most of the
Hi,
the closest thing that WMP has for rewinding audio is
to use the seek slider. The keyboard navigation for
this is to press ctrl + tab once of twice to move to
the slider, then use left or right arrows to seek
backwards or forwards by one twentieth of the length
of the track.
David Bailes
Hi,
there's a Jaws guide available for the latest version
of audacity at:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-1.3.3-Guide.html
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Hi all,
Is anyone using audacity? Wondering how JAWS or WE
-friendly it is? looks
like it does lots
in this thread.
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hi, I tried using it with jaws, but found I couldn't
select and delete from
start to cursor.
mark
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my last post should have read:
there are a number of ways of moving the cursor, which
can give you as much accuracy as you want,
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Hi,
there's a jaws guide to using audacity 1.3.3 under
windows at:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-1.3.3-Guide.html
At the end of the document, there's a summary of the
keystrokes, which should be the same on a mac.
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Hi!
Anyone
Hi Ted,
there's a Jaws guide to Audacity 1.3.4 at:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Audacity-1.3.4-Guide.html
which may help,
David Bailes.
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Hi listers. I just downloaded audacity and installed
it, and am wondering
if there are any jaws scripts for it, or any
Hi Josh,
I've used audacity 1.2.6, but haven't had that problem. You could try the
latest version, 1.3.4 which is reasonalby stable despite being in beta, and is
more accessible.
There a reverb efffect called Gverb which is available from the Effect menu.
There's some documentation on Gverb
Hi,
Saqib,
The ecoplus range of pure's dab radios consume less power:
http://www.pure.com/ecoplus/
I think that the pure one, and pure evoke-2 were recently recommended in the
Which consumer magazine. I'm writing this from the uk.
David.
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Hi all. I'm looking for a DAB
Hi Mari,
1. You can open the Sound dialog by opening the start menu and typing sound.
The first match will probably be sound recorder, but you can just arrow down
one to sound, and then press enter.
2. Press ctrl+tab to move to the recording page, where there's a list of
devices. Select a
Hi,
There's a jaws guide to audacity 1.3.4, which would also be useful to users of
other screen readers, at:
http://tinyurl.com/8h99rq
David.
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I'm forwarding this from a friend. can someone give a description of this
program and what its best used for?
Hi Doc,
How's it
Hi,
there's a jaws guide to wmp 11 which covers ripping cds:
http://tinyurl.com/2hwmrn
David.
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I've just installed WMP 11 and can't figure out how to play a movie and how to
rip a cd. Are there tutorials on either?
Thanks.
Jonathan Mosen List Founder
Audio List
Hi Mari,
there's a Jaws guide to wmp 11 which is available at:
http://tinyurl.com/2hwmrn
It was written for wmp 11 running on Windows XP, but I think the only section
which is different on Vista is the CD Drive Autoplay section.
David.
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Hello,
Does anyone know if there is
Hi Stephan,
With IE8, I can get listen live to work if Jaws isn't running, but not if it is.
An alternative way of listening live to bbc radio is to install the webbie
group of programs from the website:
http://www.webbie.org.uk/
After installation, there's a program group Accessible and
Hi Ray,
There's a Jaws guide to the latest version of Audacity at:
http://tinyurl.com/cws7ao
Nearly all of it is applicable to other screen readers. The relevant sections
are: playback, moving the cursor, and selecting audio.
David.
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I need to snag 3 minutes from an audio
Hi Ray,
Assuming that you've turned off the option to select all if non sekected, as
described in the guide, then one or more tracks and a time range have to be
selected to select a portion of audio.
When you first open audacity, the focus should be the track table, so to move
to the spin
I need to set those buttons to rang3e or length
and can I use the
brackets to mark the beginning of the audio I need?
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To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 08:23
Subject: Re: selecting with audacity
Hi Ray,
Adjusting the jump. If you open the preferences dialog (ctrl+p), select Audio
I/O in the tree view, you can then tab to the seek time when playing section
which contains two edit boxes. The names of the two edit boxes are short time
and long time, and the units are seconds.
Hi Ray,
I'll mention your suggestion about smaller increments to the Audacity
developers - they're far too big at the moment.
There is however a rather ugly work around for this. If you move to the
playback speed slider,
route the Jaws cursor to the pc cursor and double left click, then a
Hi Ray,
I'm not sure the developers would want to add another control to the toolbars.
As an alternative, how about:
1. on the playback speed slider, the arrow keys move in 10% increments, and
page up and down move in 40% increments.
2. a shortcut key is added to open the dialog box which
Hi Ray,
If you need to move the cursor by a large time increment, like 70 minutes, it's
easier to do this using the selection start spin box. It takes a little time to
get the hang of, but it's a very useful control, as you can increment or
decrement any digit in the time. For example to move
Hi,
for youtube, you could try:
http://icant.co.uk/easy-youtube/
David.
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I'm really getting into Youtube and other video sites. Finding wonderful old
TV shows bringing lots of nostalgia.
The problem is sometimes the volume is to low. Turning it up causes Jaws to be
to
Hi Bozka,
I don't have the sound card that you refer to, but just want to point out that
if a sound card supports the playthough of its inputs, then you can adjust this
using the vista sound dialog. If you move to the playback page, select the
playback device that you're using, then press
Hi,
there's a jaws guide to wmp 11, and most of it is equally applicable to window
eyes:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Windows-Media-Player-11-Guide.html
the revlevant sections are probably: introduction, main window, player taskbar,
and burn page,
David.
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Hi Ketan,
In the list of 6 options which includes itunes, google reader, etc, the last
item is RSS feed. To copy the feed address to the clipboard, either select copy
shortcut from the context menu of the RSS feed link, or alternatively open the
link, and then copy the address in the address
Hi George,
The latest release of Audacity is 1.3.8 which came out at the end of the last
week. Although a small number of people have had problems installing it on XP,
the developers are working on the problem, and there is a temporary fix if
needed. There's a new version of the Jaws guide
Hi Katherine,
If you have any specific pains in mind, then let me know and I can pass these
on the the Audacity developers who are keen to improve its accessibility,
David.
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I wouldn't recommend the use of audacity. It is a pain as far as I can
tell. Use GoldWave.
Hi Mark,
you could try using the seek slider, which you can quickly move to by pressing
ctrl+tab one or two times. The arrow keys move you by one twentieth of the
track length, and shift + arrow keys move you by one four hundredth of the
track length,
David.
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Hi folks,
Hi Martin,
here are some more detailed instructions for using Audacity to create the
example you wanted.
1. Open audacity.
2. On the track menu, open the add new sub menu, and choose Audio track
(ctrl+shift+n).
3. Open the Tone generator dialog from the Generate menu. In this dialog, the
Hi Iram,
As far as I can see, BBC Urdu is not available using the BBC iPlayer. The
Accessible iPlayer programs allow you to listen to the same content as that
available using the BBC iPlayer, so you won't be able to listen to BBC Urdu
using these programs either.
However, there is a BBC Urdu
Hi Iram,
The accessible programs from webbie are installed in the Accessible and Webbie
folder in the all programs menu. The program BBC iplayer Radio in that folder
has some useful help - just press F1. There's also a guide available at:
http://tinyurl.com/kk55c5
David.
To
I've written a Jaws guide for the BBC iPlayer website, and it's available at:
http://tinyurl.com/q58knt
Also, there was an interesting article on the BBC internet blog in june which
includes details of codecs and bitrates of their audio streams:
http://tinyurl.com/lpwf58
David.
To
Hi Vicky,
thanks for the feedback. As Ray has already said, the iPlayer website is run by
the BBC, which gets a licence fee from everyone who watches live tv in the uk.
Alas I have no suggestions for the usa, where the funding is quite different.
David.
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I've just read your
Hi Ray,
regarding the native accessibility of flash, here's a tutorial on Adobe's
website (and it's an accessible flash movie):
http://www.adobe.com/accessibility/products/flash/tutorial/
David.
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Hahaha, RNIB could never ever develop anything like the IPlayer. The BBC
Hi Samuel,
Using the seek slider in wmp 11, you can move through the following fractions
of the length of the track:
1. Arrow keys move you one twentieth.
2. ctrl + arrow keys move you one fifth.
3. shift + arrow keys move you one four hundredth.
4. shift + ctrl + arrow keys move you by one
Hi,
You can find the position of the cursor, and the playback position in the
Selection bar. Ctrl+F6 cycles you round the toolbars, the table of tracks, and
the selection bar. When you open Audacity you're initially in the table of
tracks, so to move to the Selection bar, just press ctrl+f6.
Hi
Yes, noise reduction is available within audacity - here's the page in the
manual:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/index.php?title=Noise_Removal
David.
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Does audacity offer any kind of noise reduction or audio cleanup functions?
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Hi,
After you press the ] key to mark the end of the selection, are you pressing
space to stop playback before you press the delete key? You can't delete during
playback.
David.
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Hi,
I'am trying Audacity. Ive installed the last beta version, but I can't use it.
For example,
Hi Mario,
a couple of things to check:
1. Is the focus in the table of tracks? (ctrl+f6 cycles round toolbars, track
table, and selection bar)
2. Is the track selected? When you open a file, the track is initially
selected, and pressing enter toggles the selection of the focussed track.
David.
Hi Mario,
another thing to check: after you've selected the time range, if you press
space to play/stop, it should play only the selected time range. Does this
happen?
David.
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yes I press the space.
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Hi Mario,
two more things to try:
A. Just check on the About dialog on the Help menu that you're definitely using
Audacity 1.3.9.
B. Maybe there's some problem with using the [ and ] keys on an Italian
keyboard. You could try the following method which uses commmands on menus
rather than the
Hi Jason,
current playing track: Insert + Ctrl + T.
David.
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Hi all,
How do you make JFW tell you the title of the currently playing track?
I know how to do it in win amp, but I'm forced to use WMP at work.
Thanks,
Jason
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Unfortunately, insert+ctrl+T has always just worked for me using wmp 11, and
Jaws 10 and higher,
David.
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Never seems to work too well. Do I need to change some setting in WMP to
make it easier for JFW to read the track
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Hi joanne,
1. Using Jaws 10 you can read the name of the currently playing track by
pressing insert+ctrl+t.
2. As someone has already said, you can seek back and forward by moving to the
seek slider, just press ctrl+tab once or twice to move to it. Pressing the
arrow keys moves you by one
Hi Tom,
Unfortunately, I don't think there's a way in wmp to go to a place in a track
by specifying a time,
David.
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Hello David and list: Just wondering..is there any way (in WMP)..to go exactly
to a certain place in the track or file as you can in Winamp? Tom Kaufman
Hi Barry,
You should be able to do this with the advanced query syntax available in
windows:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/desktopsearch/technicalresources/advquery.mspx
For example to search for files with 320k bit rate, the search term to enter
would be bitrate:320kbps.
Hi Hank,
to search by genre, you can use search terms such as genre:rock and
genre:classical. Note spelling of genre.
David.
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hello what about johnrahs?
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Hi Brett,
my understanding is that Audacity can only record a single device. So if you
want to use audacity you could either use a hardware mixer as input or get
windows 7 to do the mixing. To do the latter:
1. Enable software playthrough for both the microphone and the line in. On the
Hi Dane,
the seek increment for the arrow keys is one twentieth of track length. Other
increments are available using modifier keys:
1. ctrl + arrow keys, one fifth of track length.
2. shift + arrow keys, one four hundredth of track length.
3. ctrl + shift + arrow keys, one eight thousandth of
Hi Bob,
the modifiers work in wmp 11, and wmp 12 on windows 7, but I've been told that
they don't work on wmp 10. However, even for wmp 11, and 11 the modifiers
aren't listed in the help files.
David.
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I wonder if those modifiers work with WMP 10 because I never got them to
Hi Bob,
I found the modifiers by trial and error, just hoping that there might be some
way to change the increment. I've since seen them mentioned for wmp 12 on a
microsoft windows blog, but it seems crazy that they are not included in the
list of shortcuts in help.
David.
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Hi Samuel,
to enable what u hear, stereo mix or whatever it's called on windows 7:
1. Go to the recording page of the sound dialog, which you can open from start
menu, or the the context menu of the volume icon in the notification area.
2. In the list of devices, by default disabled devices
Hi Dave,
Do you have this program only when using audacity? For example, if you use
window's sound recorder program, is there the same problem.?
Also, some more info may help me or others on the list work out what the
problem
is: What version of windows and audacity are you using, and which
Hi brian,
there's some info in the sound dialog in Vista and windows 7 section of this
guide to audacity:
http://bit.ly/axYol6
Stereo mix is often disabled by default, so you'll probably need to change the
setting to show disabled devices and then enable stereo mix,as described. Also,
if
Hi Robert,
there's a jaws guide to audacity available at:
http://bit.ly/axYol6
1. to apply an effect to a single track, make it the only track selected (enter
toggles whether a track is selected). Then select a time range, for example, if
you press J, then shift+k, this selects a time range
Hi,
If your sound card can monitor the input then:
1. Open the Sound dialog in the control panel on the playback page. A couple of
ways of opening this are either to type change sound into the start menu, or
from the context menu of the speaker icon in the notification area.
2. In the list on
Hi Brett,
it sounds like the audio driver after the reinstall isn't the same one that was
there prior to the reinstall. You may be able to download an audio driver for
your laptop from the dell website, or it may be easier to contact dell's tech
support.
David.
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Hi. Great
Hi Robert,
there's a vocal removal page on Audacity's wiki:
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/index.php?title=Vocal_Removal
- my understanding is that simple methods for vocal removal aren't that
satisfactory.
There's a mailing list for blind audacity users at:
Hi Larry,
there's a mailing list for blind audacity users at:
http://www.freelists.org/list/audacity4blind
-there isn't much activity currently on this list, but one of the audacity team
members seems to keep a look out for any questions.
There's also an audacity users mailing list, which has a
Hi Larry,
I presume that you're using a recent version of Audacity (latest version is
1.3.12).
If a track is the focus, then pressing enter toggles whether that track is
selected or not, but it has no effect on whether the other tracks are selected.
So if if you want only one track to be
Hi Larry,
The suggestions were not Jaws specific. Although Audacity is not completely
accessible, a large part of it can be used with Jaws, Window-Eyes, and NVDA.
I'm
not sure about system access, and I don't think it's as accessible using
voiceover at the moment.
Regarding applying an
Hi Don,
There's a free version of burnaware which can be used for non-comercial use.
It's a cd/dvd burning program, and it includes the option to display disk info.
You can download the program from the page:
http://www.burnaware.com/downloads.html
There are three download now links on this
Hi Morey,
If Acer provide an audio driver for your computer for win7, then I would
suggest
trying these. Unfortunately, Acer's website isn't very accessible, but if you
tell me the model number of your computer, the country where it was purchased,
and whether you're using the 32bit or 64bit
Hi Morey,
I had a quick look around the web for examples of this problem, and it seems
that it's not necessarily caused by problems with the sound hardware or driver
-
it can be caused by other drivers not working properly. You can check this by
temporarily disabling certain devices in the
Hi Christopher,
I think you need a Flac encoder, which you can download from this page:
http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html
For windows, there's a choice of either an installer which puts the file
flac.exe in a flac folder in programs, or alternatively a zip file which
contains flac.exe
Hi David and James,
to queue tracks that you've found in search, choose add to playback queue on
the
context menu. This seems to work.
David.
orginal messge:
HI James,
I found that you can use the search box in foobar to queue tracks by
finding your tracks via your search term, highlighting
Hi Cornell,
To manually sync files in wmp12:
First add items to the sync list by selecting them in the main list, press the
appliction key, open
the add to sub menu, and choose sync list. ctrl+9 is the shortcut for adding to
the sync list.
Then tab to the start sync button and press it
Hi,
assuming that the cassette to pc device uses a usb connection, and that you're
using windows xp, then audacity probably can't control the recording level from
within the program. However, you can adjust the recording level by adjusting
the windows recording level of the device:
1. In the
Hi Dave,
the 1.3.13 beta version of audacity is much more accessible than 1.2.6 version
and is reasonably stable. In addtion there's a guide for jaws users for this
version, which can also be used by users of window-eyes and nvda. It's
available here:
Hi Hank,
you don't have to find the empty space. If you select any device and open its
context menu, then the option show disabled devices will be on this context
menu.
If this option is not checked, then press enter whilst this is selected it to
check the option.
David.
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Hi David,
have you tried using the [ and ] keys during playback to mark the start and end
of the selection?
Could you be more specific about what you're getting stuck on?
In addtion to this list, there's also an audacity4blind list - details can be
found in the help sub-section of the
Hi Colin,
these instructions are for version 1.3.13 of audacity.
To be able to export to mp3 from audacity you need to download and install the
lame encoder, which isn't included with audacity for legal reasons:
http://lame1.buanzo.com.ar/Lame_v3.98.3_for_Audacity_on_Windows.exe
Then:
1. open
Hi Colin,
you could chop off the front end in a similar manner:
1. move the cursor to the end of where you want to chop off (about 5 mins into
the file in your case).
2. press shift + home, which selects a time range from the cursor to the start
of the audio.
3. press delete.
So shift+home and
Hi TickPub,
yes, audacity 1.3.13 can run on windows xp, vista and 7,
David.
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To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, 1 December 2011, 18:02
Subject: Re: Audacity
David, hey, can I run the 1.3 version on XP-hom? Right now
is around 50 mins
Thanks for any ideas
Colin
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Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: 01 December 2011 16:08
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Audacity
Hi Colin,
you could chop off the front end
] On
Behalf Of David Bailes
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Subject: Re: Audacity
Hi Colin,
you could chop off the front end in a similar manner:
1. move the cursor to the end of where you want to chop off (about 5 mins into
the file in your case).
2. press shift + home, which
know?
Thanks
Colin
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Sent: 02 December 2011 14:55
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Audacity
Hi Colin,
forgot to ask you what versions of windows and audacity
Hi Dean and others,
Audacity 2.0rc5 is a release candidate for Audacity 2.0, which will be released
within the next few days. When that happens, it will be available from the
audacity website.
Audacity 2.0 is very similar to the 1.3.14 beta version in terms of features,
but several bugs have
I've updated my Jaws guide to audacity to cover version 2.0. Nearly all the
guide is also applicable to users of window-eyes and nvda. The guide is
available here:
http://goo.gl/dQ75G
David.
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Hi Prateek,
you can use audacity to merge mp3 files.
One way of doing it would be as follows:
1. Open the first file (ctrl+o).
2. press End to move the cursor to the end of the audio.
Then for each mp3 file you wanted to add on the end follow the next 3 steps:
1. Import the file (ctrl+shift+I).
Hi Samuel,
concerning selecting the right amount of sound in audacity.
If you've selecting a time range using shift + left/right arrows etc, note that
by default, the step size depends on the length of the recording - the longer
the recording, the larger the default step size. However you can
Hi Collin,
my guess is that the problem is that the option for sound activated recording
is set to be on.
This can be switched off either on the transport menu, where there's a sound
activated recording option, or in the recording category of the preferences,
where there's Sound activated
Hi Reed,
the free guide to audacity can be found here:
http://goo.gl/bZIXh
It's written specifically for Jaws users, but nearly all of it is also
applicable to users NVDA and Window-eyes.
There's also an audacity mailing list for blind users, and details of this are
given in the guide's
Hi Andre,
you could have a look at obi, though I haven't used it myself:
http://www.daisy.org/project/obi
David.
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Hi all
Are there any programs available preferably free with which you can build a
daisy book from audio files? My old nokia e52 could actually do that using a
Hi John,
you can just save the guide to disk. There are a couple of ways of doing this.
First, you can open the context menu of the following link and choose save
target as (or the equivalent for your browser):
http://goo.gl/bZIXh
Alternatively, if you have the guide open in a browser, you can
Hi Mark,
one way of getting the audio to switch between speakers is as follows. Let's
assume that you've got a single track in the project, and that the audio in
that track consists of someone saying welcome three times.
1. Select all the audio by pressing ctrl + a.
2. Duplicate the selected
Hi Dave,
Audacity is slightly more accessible on Windows than on a Mac. For more
details, see the screen reader section of this page on Accessibility in the
manual:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/accessibility.html
When recording on windows with a single sound card, then the screen
Hi Dave,
I'm not sure whether you're trying to record the audio that's being sent to the
playback device, for example what's coming out of the speakers or the
headphones.
If this is the case, then if you've got only one sound card, then audacity will
record the screen reader as well.
But if
Hi Dave,
just out of interest, how to you separate the streams on XP?
David.
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Unfortunately, that's what I thought. I'm trying to record programs on my PC
like Rhapsody, YouTube streams, my Slingbox, etc. In XP, there's no problem
separating these streams from JFW, but I
Hi Joe,
In your steps, after you press the right bracket key, audacity is paused in
playback. To be able to delete the selected audio, you have to press spacebar
to stop the playback before you press the delete button. (You can't delete
during playback).
David.
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Hi.
Hi Rich,
If you press pause before pressing the left bracket, then to resume playback
then you can either just press P to resume playback, or as you suggest press
spacebar to stop playback, then spacebar again to start playback.
And as you say, you have to press spacebar after pressing the right
Hi,
just to add that Audacity has a bass and treble effect which works the same way
as bass and treble controls on an amplifier. It also has an equalization
effect, which includes some preset curves.
David.
original message:
Audacity does do the speed thing, I'm not sure about the tape
Audacity 2.0.5 has been released. One of the recent new features which is
available if you’re using Windows Vista or later, is that using the WASAPI
audio interface you can record the audio being sent to a playback device even
if your sound card doesn’t support “Stereo Mix”. I've updated my
Hi Petro,
yes, there's a portable version available at:
http://portableapps.com/apps/music_video/audacity_portable
concerning recording a microphone and the audio going to a playback device, for
example a screen reader. Audacity only helps you with recording the audio going
to a playback
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