5/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote:
>>>>> Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Pc-a
t;>
>>Humberto
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pc-audio
>>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
>>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
>>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>Subject:
r is down to around 8 hours, now. I don't
>>>>>> know why they can't solve the battery life issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:
>>>>>>> I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats
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will you get this little player since Neville retired?
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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan
Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Well, I think that humanware
r now it uses the wire of the
>>headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it
scans,
>> etc.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Humberto
>>
>>
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>>From: Pc-audio
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>>From: Pc-audio
>>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
>>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
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>>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
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Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan
>>> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>
>>> Well, I think that humanware really like to
...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy hardware
and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that
PlexT
e retired?
>
>
>
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> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM
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> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> Well, I think that humanware reall
Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired?
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Well, I think
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never
seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS
player. I too have
for now it uses the wire of the
>>headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans,
>> etc.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Humberto
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pc-audio
>>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On
-audio
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
better then
org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never
seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS
player. I too have 1. It's cool l
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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the Mil
e smaller
in size than the speaker on the Iphone?
Tom Kaufman
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Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 1:03 PM
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Subject: Re: Victor Read
.
If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be
buying the Victor Streams or Bookports at all.
-Original Message- From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
What's this 40 $ MP3
-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with
radios and rec
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 p
for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be buying
the Victor Streams or Bookports at all.
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From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV
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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end
audio from
e
smaller in size than the speaker on the Iphone?
Tom Kaufman
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Amen, Gary!
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Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 10:56 AM
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Remember that the Victor
.
-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds
c-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as
we’ve d
even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.
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Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio
c-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi c
: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't
o [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf
Of Dane Trethowan
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as
we’ve discussed here
, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad
---
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Trethowan
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve
d
rt plus or Plextor
Pocket range.
Jamie
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dio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a
---
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Dane Trethowan
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as
we’ve d
ilto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as
we’ve discussed here, the
mie
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Yep, convenient may be but the unit d
sage-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
>> Trethowan
>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
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o [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
> Trethowan
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>
> Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations
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> Trethowan
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> Yep, convenient may be but the
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Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve
discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and -
given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Campos
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>
>
that thing, I'd much prefer an
external speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman
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Dane Trethowan
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.
The handling of
s!
Tom Kaufman
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Dane Trethowan
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I just shake my head
having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a
>>>>> 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set
>>>>> of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going
>>>>> to listen to any music on that thing, I
nes!
Tom Kaufman
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I just shake my head though when it
01, 2017 5:34 PM
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a p
r an external
>>> speaker or headphones!
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Dane Trethowan
>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
>>
ch
prefer an external speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Ge
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I just shake my head though when it comes
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream doe
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem
.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.
The handling of multiple format files - for r
Campos
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Yeah the audio is kinda meh. You're right Dain. An IOS device and or
especially a samsung device do sound better. Ah I can hear the apple
fans now. How dare you? Did you just dare
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Yeah the audio is kinda meh. You're right Dain. An IOS device and or
especially a samsung device do sound better. Ah I can hear the apple
fans now. How dare
-
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Trethowan
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker f
>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.
The handling of multiple format files - for r
: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all
uch prefer an external
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman
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Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far
any music on that thing, I'd
much prefer an external speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman
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Subject: R
Couple of points here.
If you don't have devices working simultaneously on your network then
its hard to draw comparisons with the Stream, I mean if its the only
device you have then you're probably over the moon that the Stream can
download anything at all!
As for your super fast network?
I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.
The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition
;pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't
have the issue or they just axepted it.
On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
> I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so wil
Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either
didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.
On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report
on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report on
it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon Fios, so
downloading books manually and transfering them to the player won't be
an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as some of you
guys
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some
friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even
when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
That is the yick thing for me with Blind devices. They don't make them
truely powerfull. Well I'm more a plextalk guy then Victor. So I've
always had bones with them. In 06 when they made the PTR2 they didn't do
loads of things that would've made it epic. For starters the USB 1.1
thingy. Dude
Yes but that shouldn't be an excuse. These companies must wake up. I
no of a manufacture who does allot better in hardware and wich players
wifi is much stronger. Soon it will be able to record internet radio
and its much cheaper. Also humanware is very slow to update, fix bugs,
and new features.
Ah! well you've probably hit the nail right on the head when it comes to
the download speed if everything goes through the Humanware server.
Yep, the Wireless chip seems a little outdated but after all! we're
talking all things Humanware and for the blind here aren't we .
On 2/05/2017
In addition to what you said about the slow download speed of the Victor
stream second generation, I feel that the chip for the wireless receiver
could be more sensitive. Another thing I believe is that the internet
streams seem to go through a server controlled by Humanware for the most
part.
OK, that brings up a question. Whenever I try to add credentials to
the ABWA Australian library, the Stream only accepts numbers in my
user id. I got this username several years ago when Greg was
publicizing the access for users in the U.S. Are new usernames now
numbers, and should I contact
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