Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
We'll agree to disagree then. Humanware only wants to support a part of the market they know they can extract money from, those Humanware can preach to and easily convince that Humanware are the only solution on Planet Earth, a bit like the Church of Scientology. On 11/10/2017 7:57 AM, Mary Otten wrote: More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device. I don't own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much better with buttons than with touch; were that not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this stuff. Mary -- ** "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" **
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Apologies as I didn’t know you had an Amazon Echo but that’s as far as the apology goes. Remembering skills? I have skills on my Amazon Echo and yes, its probably not used as much as yours would be given the Amazon echo is not fully supported in Australia but I do indeed know what skills I have on my system and - if I’m in any doubt - then I can look up and manage what I have installed on the Amazon Echo web page. I don’t buy the argument about small company’s and lack of resources these days, I’ve been using hearing instruments for over 30 years and - over that time - the price has changed radically along with the technology which suggests to me that - unlike Humanware - small company’s in the hearing instruments market - once again a very small and specialist market - want to put their clients - those who have hearing difficulty’s and need to use their products - first. In recent years of course we’ve seen a huge shift in the hearing instruments market to using the instrument as such as a secondary device and something more substantial - Mobile phone - as the primary processing device which in tern has both brought more power to the instrument and brought the price down. I’m not suggesting for one moment that the latter point of using two devices be used in the case of Humanware as one “Stand-Alone” device is what’s required here however Humanware are not acknowleding changing technology, not keeping up with the mainstream. Accessibility should be all and not just for a few. On 10 Nov 2017, at 8:48 am, Mary Otten> wrote: Yes, I have an Amazon echo. It’s of limited utility in my opinion, partly because although there are so many skills, finding them and then remembering what you have is well, not easy. But I do have one. Now why would I want to repeat that whole thing with a device from humanware, which, given the small market, would probably cost at least twice or three times as much? Who is argument is ridiculous here? Add voice input to something for sure. But for a small company like humanware to make a single use voice activated speaker would be the height of stupid. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2017, at 1:27 PM, Dane Trethowan > wrote: That argument is just ridiculous, have you ever used an Amazon Echo or a Google home? you can only interact with those devices the one way, with your voice! Obviously you use an App or a Web Page to set these devices up but once that's done? Well you either talk and use the device or you fall silent and the device drops dead too. On 11/10/2017 7:59 AM, Mary Otten wrote: I never said that voice input wouldn't be good, just that having it as the sole method would not be a good idea; not at all practical. -- ** "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" ** ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
That argument is just ridiculous, have you ever used an Amazon Echo or a Google home? you can only interact with those devices the one way, with your voice! Obviously you use an App or a Web Page to set these devices up but once that's done? Well you either talk and use the device or you fall silent and the device drops dead too. On 11/10/2017 7:59 AM, Mary Otten wrote: I never said that voice input wouldn't be good, just that having it as the sole method would not be a good idea; not at all practical. -- ** "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" **
SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Hi Anders, Oh sorry to hear that. I never had issues with mine. But you're right that such a device should contain up-up to date hardware, and downloading books is a pain too. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Anders Holmberg Sendt: 9. november 2017 23:15 Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek Hi! Yes you’re right Brian but they should have put better hardware into the stream. I have had my for repair once and i think it needs to go on repair again. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 22:14 skrev Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk>: > > Hey Mary, > You are so perfectly right, and to tell you the truth it's not only > blind people who feels this way. > But fascion is playing many of it's tricks on people you know. > Also a dedicated device for special needs is wonderful. > For example with a Victor you don't really need to care about power > loss or battery drainage. > Charge it once every second day, and you can read on and on as long as > you like. > Also manipulating the audio is a time consuming process. Lets say you > need to go to a certain page in a daisy book with touch, or find a special > fraze. > This is technically speaking possible, but will always and I mean > always take much longer with touch then with regular keys. > If you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds > becoming minutes becoming hours, becoming days, actually counts > against the biological human clock, and would be a great unnecessary > waist of precious time. > Yes off course I do own the app Voice Dream Reader, and loves it, but > believe me. I use my Stream 95 % of the time instead. > I could use my nice Hims U2, and honestly don't know why I don't. > Maybe because of it's size. But this little handy pocket device feels > more like reading a real book then using apps for all purposes in > life. :-) > > Best regards > Brian > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary > Otten > Sendt: 9. november 2017 21:58 > Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trekagainst the biological > human clock. > > More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device. I > don't own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much > better with buttons than with touch; were thaIf you're a student and > is planning to study for 5 years these seconds being minutes becoming > hours becoming days actually count t not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this > stuff. > > Mary > > > >
SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Hi, Ah let's get this strate. aptX is a faster protocol especially used by gamers to get lower latency when playing with Bluetooth headphones. The aptX audio codec is available for consumer and automotive wireless audio applications, notably the real-time streaming of lossy stereo audio over the Bluetooth A2DP connection/pairing between a "source" device (such as a smartphone, tablet or laptop) and a "sink" accessory (namely a Bluetooth stereo speaker, headset or headphones). aptX technology must be incorporated in both transmitter and receiver to derive the sonic benefits of aptX audio coding over the default sub-band coding (SBC) mandated by the Bluetooth standard. Consumer electronics products bearing the CSR aptX logo are certified for interoperability with other Bluetooth audio products belonging to the aptX ecosystem. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Anders Holmberg Sendt: 9. november 2017 22:54 Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek Hi! Its an uncompressed format so the sound quality is better. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 15:25 skrev Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au>: > > What is aptx why is that better than what ever other Blue Tooth? > > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders > Holmberg > Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:29 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek > > Hi! > I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx. > I don’t think so. > /A > >> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>: >> >> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >> >> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. >> >> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >> similar devices. >> >> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. >> >> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what >> you will of this. >> >> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >> ** >> >> > > >
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Hi! Yes you’re right Brian but they should have put better hardware into the stream. I have had my for repair once and i think it needs to go on repair again. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 22:14 skrev Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk>: > > Hey Mary, > You are so perfectly right, and to tell you the truth it's not only blind > people who feels this way. > But fascion is playing many of it's tricks on people you know. > Also a dedicated device for special needs is wonderful. > For example with a Victor you don't really need to care about power loss or > battery drainage. > Charge it once every second day, and you can read on and on as long as you > like. > Also manipulating the audio is a time consuming process. Lets say you need > to go to a certain page in a daisy book with touch, or find a special fraze. > This is technically speaking possible, but will always and I mean always > take much longer with touch then with regular keys. > If you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds > becoming minutes becoming hours, becoming days, actually counts against the > biological human clock, and would be a great unnecessary waist of precious > time. > Yes off course I do own the app Voice Dream Reader, and loves it, but > believe me. I use my Stream 95 % of the time instead. > I could use my nice Hims U2, and honestly don't know why I don't. Maybe > because of it's size. But this little handy pocket device feels more like > reading a real book then using apps for all purposes in life. :-) > > Best regards > Brian > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary Otten > Sendt: 9. november 2017 21:58 > Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trekagainst the biological human > clock. > > More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device. I don't > own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much better with > buttons than with touch; were thaIf you're a student and is planning to > study for 5 years these seconds being minutes becoming hours becoming days > actually count t not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this stuff. > > Mary > > > >
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Well enjoy wasting your time then. > On 10 Nov 2017, at 9:09 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: > > Good point you make about those seconds wasting time. > Today, so much time can be wasted deleting crap emails or social media > stuff, that wastes time in business or study. > Especially as it takes us longer to identify a not wanted message than a > sighted person. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian > Olesen > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 8:14 AM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek > > Hey Mary, > You are so perfectly right, and to tell you the truth it's not only blind > people who feels this way. > But fascion is playing many of it's tricks on people you know. > Also a dedicated device for special needs is wonderful. > For example with a Victor you don't really need to care about power loss or > battery drainage. > Charge it once every second day, and you can read on and on as long as you > like. > Also manipulating the audio is a time consuming process. Lets say you need > to go to a certain page in a daisy book with touch, or find a special fraze. > This is technically speaking possible, but will always and I mean always > take much longer with touch then with regular keys. > If you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds > becoming minutes becoming hours, becoming days, actually counts against the > biological human clock, and would be a great unnecessary waist of precious > time. > Yes off course I do own the app Voice Dream Reader, and loves it, but > believe me. I use my Stream 95 % of the time instead. > I could use my nice Hims U2, and honestly don't know why I don't. Maybe > because of it's size. But this little handy pocket device feels more like > reading a real book then using apps for all purposes in life. :-) > > Best regards > Brian > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary Otten > Sendt: 9. november 2017 21:58 > Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trekagainst the biological human > clock. > > More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device. I don't > own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much better with > buttons than with touch; were thaIf you're a student and is planning to > study for 5 years these seconds being minutes becoming hours becoming days > actually count t not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this stuff. > > Mary > > > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Hi! THanks Eden for letting us know that. Then there will not be any trek in this house. I rather use my Nokia 8 or moto g 5 for such purpose or my stream 2 for listening to daisy books unless it doesn’t turn of by it self without any warning like it use to do for me when i have wifi on. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 21:10 skrev Aidan <aidan.smartt...@gmail.com>: > > Yes, the button thing is great, but unfortunetly they did not change > enough hardware. The stream hardware is quite bad, and all they done > now is to change the procesor and remove the line in jac to make room > for the gps antenna. > They are lazy these days, come out with just a few updates once every > now and then, and then they brag on the fact that they have different > teams to work on different products wich are suppose to create the > impression that they have enough people to make it possible to work on > these things properly. > They also now will include an fm radio, wich is great, but then > stream users is missing out, and its now unfairely expected that if > you don't want gps you should buy this thing to get blootooth, and the > fm radio. This probibly means that the treck will get more updates and > the other stream little or nothing and then they will suddenly > discontinue the stream for a new one later. They did the same before > with the older stream. After they discontinued it, they did not > provide updates for it to bring it inline with the new model, such as > to add the consolidate notes and repeat one track only features on the > notes and music bookshelfs respectively. All about money and they > don't care. > Its nice that this unit will have maps onboard, wich means no data > drain, but so little hardware change is unexceptible. > > On 09/11/2017, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: >> The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice >> command. >> I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary >> Otten >> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek >> >> VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I >> really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or >> whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t >> the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let >> them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing >> things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More >> often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what >> they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star >> Trek days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something >> actually like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came >> out with one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want >> to buy a specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are >> after all voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s >> why I say having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use >> your device with voice under the right circumstances could be good. >> >> Mary >> >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >>> >>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for >>> years. >>> >>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >>> similar devices. >>> >>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of >>> stuff. >>> >>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make >>> what you will of this. >>> >>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ** >>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >>> ** >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >
RE: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Good point you make about those seconds wasting time. Today, so much time can be wasted deleting crap emails or social media stuff, that wastes time in business or study. Especially as it takes us longer to identify a not wanted message than a sighted person. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 8:14 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek Hey Mary, You are so perfectly right, and to tell you the truth it's not only blind people who feels this way. But fascion is playing many of it's tricks on people you know. Also a dedicated device for special needs is wonderful. For example with a Victor you don't really need to care about power loss or battery drainage. Charge it once every second day, and you can read on and on as long as you like. Also manipulating the audio is a time consuming process. Lets say you need to go to a certain page in a daisy book with touch, or find a special fraze. This is technically speaking possible, but will always and I mean always take much longer with touch then with regular keys. If you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds becoming minutes becoming hours, becoming days, actually counts against the biological human clock, and would be a great unnecessary waist of precious time. Yes off course I do own the app Voice Dream Reader, and loves it, but believe me. I use my Stream 95 % of the time instead. I could use my nice Hims U2, and honestly don't know why I don't. Maybe because of it's size. But this little handy pocket device feels more like reading a real book then using apps for all purposes in life. :-) Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Mary Otten Sendt: 9. november 2017 21:58 Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trekagainst the biological human clock. More to go wrong or more to enable more people to use the device. I don't own one, but I still know plenty of blind folks who do much better with buttons than with touch; were thaIf you're a student and is planning to study for 5 years these seconds being minutes becoming hours becoming days actually count t not true, HumanWare wouldn't make this stuff. Mary
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
That’s obviously a personal thing isn’t it? I mean there are plenty of people who use Voice commands with their iPhone and Siri, Android phone with Google assistant and Goodness only knows how many other GPS and Entertainment devices out there. All new cars sold these days have facilities to accept Voice Commands along with Bluetooth speakers etc. ** “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.” > On 10 Nov 2017, at 1:33 am, Mary Ottenwrote: > > VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I > really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or > whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t > the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let > them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing > things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More > often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what > they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek > days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually > like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with > one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a > specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all > voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say > having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use your device > with voice under the right circumstances could be good. > > Mary > > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >> >> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. >> >> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >> similar devices. >> >> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. >> >> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what >> you will of this. >> >> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >> ** >> >> > >
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Yep it has buttons, more to go wrong. ** “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.” > On 10 Nov 2017, at 5:37 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: > > The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice > command. > I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem. > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek > > VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I > really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or > whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t > the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let > them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing > things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More > often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what > they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek > days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually > like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with > one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a > specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all > voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say > having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use your device > with voice under the right circumstances could be good. > > Mary > > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: >> >> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >> >> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. >> >> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >> similar devices. >> >> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. >> >> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what >> you will of this. >> >> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >> ** >> >> > > >
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Yes, the button thing is great, but unfortunetly they did not change enough hardware. The stream hardware is quite bad, and all they done now is to change the procesor and remove the line in jac to make room for the gps antenna. They are lazy these days, come out with just a few updates once every now and then, and then they brag on the fact that they have different teams to work on different products wich are suppose to create the impression that they have enough people to make it possible to work on these things properly. They also now will include an fm radio, wich is great, but then stream users is missing out, and its now unfairely expected that if you don't want gps you should buy this thing to get blootooth, and the fm radio. This probibly means that the treck will get more updates and the other stream little or nothing and then they will suddenly discontinue the stream for a new one later. They did the same before with the older stream. After they discontinued it, they did not provide updates for it to bring it inline with the new model, such as to add the consolidate notes and repeat one track only features on the notes and music bookshelfs respectively. All about money and they don't care. Its nice that this unit will have maps onboard, wich means no data drain, but so little hardware change is unexceptible. On 09/11/2017, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: > The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice > command. > I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem. > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary > Otten > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek > > VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I > really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or > whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t > the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let > them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing > things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More > often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what > they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star > Trek days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something > actually like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came > out with one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want > to buy a specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are > after all voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s > why I say having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use > your device with voice under the right circumstances could be good. > > Mary > > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> >> wrote: >> >> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >> >> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for >> years. >> >> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >> similar devices. >> >> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of >> stuff. >> >> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make >> what you will of this. >> >> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >> ** >> >> > > > >
RE: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
The good thing about Victor is it has real buttons. No need for voice command. I agree doing voice command in public can be a problem. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 1:33 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use your device with voice under the right circumstances could be good. Mary Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: > > So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so > many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. > > Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. > > Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other > similar devices. > > So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated > device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. > > Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what > you will of this. > > http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html > > -- > > ** > "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" > ** > >
SV: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
HI, AptX is not a format it's a protocol. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Anders Holmberg Sendt: 9. november 2017 13:47 Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Emne: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek Hi! Yes but does it support the aptx format. I don’t want to spend another bunch of money for a device and be disappointed again. My second gen stream is still alive and kicking but very often crashes even though its been on repair and have been reset a bunch of times. I rather use a stable android phone or Iphone for these purposes if the trek shows similar tendences. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 13:37 skrev JOHN RIEHL <realma...@verizon.net>: > > The victor Trekker does have Bluetooth capability. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders > Holmberg > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:29 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek > > Hi! > I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx. > I don’t think so. > /A > >> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>: >> >> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >> >> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. >> >> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >> similar devices. >> >> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. >> >> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what >> you will of this. >> >> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >> ** >> >> > > >
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
VoiceCommands as an adjunct to an existing device could be good, although I really can’t imagine using one out in public with GPS or or on a bus or whatever. That’s why say it should be an adjunct if they did it. But doesn’t the stream run on Linux? My guess is there aren’t any APIs that would let them use, for instants, Alexa. For my money, with the exception of doing things on the actual device, his voice assistance are vastly overrated. More often than not, you get something that makes you look on the web for what they found, or you get a non-response. We are definitely not in the Star Trek days, so the fact that human where hasn’t come out with something actually like a home or an echo makes perfect sense to me. If they just came out with one of the speaker things, nobody would buy it. Why would you want to buy a specialized speaker made by humanware, when the mainstream ones are after all voice activated. What possible value add it could there be? That’s why I say having some kind of voice deal that would actually let you use your device with voice under the right circumstances could be good. Mary Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 8, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Dane Trethowanwrote: > > So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so > many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. > > Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. > > Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other > similar devices. > > So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated > device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. > > Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what > you will of this. > > http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html > > -- > > ** > "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" > ** > >
RE: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
What is aptx why is that better than what ever other Blue Tooth? -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2017 11:29 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek Hi! I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx. I don’t think so. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>: > > So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so > many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. > > Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. > > Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other > similar devices. > > So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated > device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. > > Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what > you will of this. > > http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html > > -- > > ** > "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" > ** > >
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I do not think so. They don’t mention it when they reference bluetooth. Best to ask to be sure. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 9, 2017, at 4:46 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: > > Hi! > Yes but does it support the aptx format. > I don’t want to spend another bunch of money for a device and be disappointed > again. > My second gen stream is still alive and kicking but very often crashes even > though its been on repair and have been reset a bunch of times. > I rather use a stable android phone or Iphone for these purposes if the trek > shows similar tendences. > /A > >> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 13:37 skrev JOHN RIEHL <realma...@verizon.net>: >> >> The victor Trekker does have Bluetooth capability. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders >> Holmberg >> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:29 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek >> >> Hi! >> I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx. >> I don’t think so. >> /A >> >>> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>: >>> >>> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >>> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >>> >>> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. >>> >>> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >>> similar devices. >>> >>> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >>> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. >>> >>> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make >>> what you will of this. >>> >>> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ** >>> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >>> ** >>> >>> >> >> >> > >
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Hi! Yes but does it support the aptx format. I don’t want to spend another bunch of money for a device and be disappointed again. My second gen stream is still alive and kicking but very often crashes even though its been on repair and have been reset a bunch of times. I rather use a stable android phone or Iphone for these purposes if the trek shows similar tendences. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 13:37 skrev JOHN RIEHL <realma...@verizon.net>: > > The victor Trekker does have Bluetooth capability. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders > Holmberg > Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:29 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek > > Hi! > I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx. > I don’t think so. > /A > >> 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>: >> >> So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so >> many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. >> >> Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. >> >> Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other >> similar devices. >> >> So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated >> device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. >> >> Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what >> you will of this. >> >> http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" >> ** >> >> > > >
RE: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
The victor Trekker does have Bluetooth capability. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2017 7:29 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek Hi! I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx. I don’t think so. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>: > > So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so > many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. > > Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. > > Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other > similar devices. > > So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated > device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. > > Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what > you will of this. > > http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html > > -- > > ** > "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" > ** > >
Re: Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
Hi! I wonder if the trek has bluetooth with aptx. I don’t think so. /A > 9 nov. 2017 kl. 06:05 skrev Dane Trethowan: > > So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so > many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. > > Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. > > Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other > similar devices. > > So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated > device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. > > Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what > you will of this. > > http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html > > -- > > ** > "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" > ** > >
Humanwear Victor Reader Stream Trek
So another new product from humanware but again I think they're missing so many points as Humanware tend to do these days in my opinion. Yeah okay, we know about Talking Book players and we've used them for years. Yeah, we know about GPS navigation products and we use iPhones and other similar devices. So it does surprise me that Humanware hasn't brought out a voice activated device like the Google Home or Amazon Echo that does all this sort of stuff. Anyway here's the new device from our dear friends at Humanware so make what you will of this. http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html -- ** "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" **
Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Well I can understand your point. Price is an issue when it comes to the VRS 2. I'm just glad it has been around for my own personal entertainment needs. I keep it plugged up and on 24/7 wired up to my trusty Magic Box II mini speaker via the 3.5 jack. Hasn't let me down yet. If another audio player does hit the market that offers similar accessibility functionality that rivals the VRS 2. And it has Bluetooth capability, 32 - 64 GB of internal storage and provides propriotory apps to use some parts of Twitter and Facebook I would pay a small fortune for it! Hopefully Humanware or another company will improve on the VRS 2 in the very near future. At 02:39 PM 5/8/2017, you wrote: Kenni, It does not allow for online downloading of those books, because its not mainly pushed to the US market and podcast need some work, but what it can do, it can do very well. What is also the use of having a player wich will alouw you to search data bases and download bookshare and such but then they not always commited to the player? Or they use bad hardware and make you pay fru your neck? This player is 3000 rand and not r7000 rand like the stream currently. On 08/05/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: > What do you mean by report for them? Well obviously they won't do > nothing about the PTR1 as it technically doesn't exist anymore. But yeah > the PTR2 maybe. Thing is to get an updated list of cards. Cause the ones > on the site are the 2006 ones. > > > On 5/7/2017 3:58 AM, Aidan wrote: >> Perhaps you should report for plextalk and see if they can help you >> testing. >> >> On 06/05/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Who are Andre and Anthony? As for the PTR2 it is epic. I'm just saying >>> that before 1 buys 1 cause you can still buy 1 if you wish. But before >>> ya do so I think it's best to borrow 1 from a homy which is the gangsta >>> word for friend and try some CF cards. See if it doesn't do like the >>> PTR1. Or maybe it's mi PTR1 that has the issue. Cause like I said mine >>> has rejected 3 CF cards in a row. That's something like 30 dolars down >>> the John. I don't know why it's being so dam picky all of the sudden. >>> >>> >>> On 5/6/2017 8:45 AM, Aidan wrote: >>>> Andre, Anthony and his team cell them since last year. >>>> Hamit, you so rite, I would love to try out the ptr2 and I think its >>>> put together very well, but yes the hardware is a big show stopper, >>>> and you will be better off with bookport dt from APH if you want to go >>>> that root. I cannot compare drive of ptn2 with ptn1 as I did not >>>> experience ptn1, but I think it will be better since one of the >>>> firmware updates did address issues with the drive. >>>> >>>> On 06/05/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote: >>>>> Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> Aidan >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM >>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>>>> >>>>> Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy >>>>> hardware >>>>> and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree >>>>> that >>>>> PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is >>>>> really >>>>> not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like >>>>> the >>>>> 212 >>>>> as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more >>>>> in >>>>> a >>>>> package. >>>>> I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said. >>>>> I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update >>>>> it >>>>> more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now >>>>> is >>>>> the >>>>> evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really >>>>> do >>>>> great work. >>>>> The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general >>>>> is >>>>> very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things >>>>> with >>>>> the up, down, left and w
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I have no idea. Believe it's listed on the description page as one of its destinctive features though. At 07:04 PM 5/7/2017, you wrote: Ah the compas would come in verry handy. Just so as 1 knows which way is waht. The caluclator too. I use the 1 in my PTR1 here and there. But what is a calcugraph? On 5/7/2017 1:31 PM, Kenny wrote: Let me ask you a question about this Evo E10 Daisy Digital Recorder/Player: Does it offer integrated functionality to search OOTunes and Wikipedia? Does it allow you to save any audio stream you do like as Favorites for quick access? Does it allow you to access your NFB and Bookshare content from within the player? Does it allow you to use the beautiful Samantha TTS voice? I mean having a compass, calculator and calcugraph sounds great for someone in school, but how many casual users would ever use these features? Just want to know more about this EVO E10 from someone who owns it. Do love the fact it comes with 8 GB of internal memory though. At 01:39 PM 5/5/2017, you wrote: Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in a package. I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said. I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do great work. The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of all. Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better. Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio, e-books and daisy. On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote: > The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 > hours, now. I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue. > > At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote: >>I read quite a lot and while at home, in my >>opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its >>good sound, long-lasting battery, although the >>battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly >>degrades to about 16 with prolonged use. The >>Iphone of course, is also excellent for >>listening to BARD books, but with so many other >>apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, >>plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer >>to also take the Milestone 312 for the books. >> >>The problem is that we are slowly becoming pack >>horses, when you take into consideration that >>when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, >>Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine. >> >>Everything could be improved of course. The NLS >>players could solve the battery-life issue plus >>add Bluetooth capability; the Milestone could >>add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM >>radio, for now it uses the wire of the >>headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, >> etc. >> >>Regards, >> >>Humberto >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Pc-audio >>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos >>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM >>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >> >>Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much >>better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never &
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Kenni, It does not allow for online downloading of those books, because its not mainly pushed to the US market and podcast need some work, but what it can do, it can do very well. What is also the use of having a player wich will alouw you to search data bases and download bookshare and such but then they not always commited to the player? Or they use bad hardware and make you pay fru your neck? This player is 3000 rand and not r7000 rand like the stream currently. On 08/05/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: > What do you mean by report for them? Well obviously they won't do > nothing about the PTR1 as it technically doesn't exist anymore. But yeah > the PTR2 maybe. Thing is to get an updated list of cards. Cause the ones > on the site are the 2006 ones. > > > On 5/7/2017 3:58 AM, Aidan wrote: >> Perhaps you should report for plextalk and see if they can help you >> testing. >> >> On 06/05/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Who are Andre and Anthony? As for the PTR2 it is epic. I'm just saying >>> that before 1 buys 1 cause you can still buy 1 if you wish. But before >>> ya do so I think it's best to borrow 1 from a homy which is the gangsta >>> word for friend and try some CF cards. See if it doesn't do like the >>> PTR1. Or maybe it's mi PTR1 that has the issue. Cause like I said mine >>> has rejected 3 CF cards in a row. That's something like 30 dolars down >>> the John. I don't know why it's being so dam picky all of the sudden. >>> >>> >>> On 5/6/2017 8:45 AM, Aidan wrote: >>>> Andre, Anthony and his team cell them since last year. >>>> Hamit, you so rite, I would love to try out the ptr2 and I think its >>>> put together very well, but yes the hardware is a big show stopper, >>>> and you will be better off with bookport dt from APH if you want to go >>>> that root. I cannot compare drive of ptn2 with ptn1 as I did not >>>> experience ptn1, but I think it will be better since one of the >>>> firmware updates did address issues with the drive. >>>> >>>> On 06/05/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote: >>>>> Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> Aidan >>>>> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM >>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>>>> >>>>> Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy >>>>> hardware >>>>> and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree >>>>> that >>>>> PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is >>>>> really >>>>> not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like >>>>> the >>>>> 212 >>>>> as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more >>>>> in >>>>> a >>>>> package. >>>>> I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said. >>>>> I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update >>>>> it >>>>> more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now >>>>> is >>>>> the >>>>> evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really >>>>> do >>>>> great work. >>>>> The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general >>>>> is >>>>> very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things >>>>> with >>>>> the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features >>>>> of >>>>> all. >>>>> Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon >>>>> will >>>>> hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice >>>>> memos, >>>>> voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is >>>>> actually >>>>> so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to >>>>> set >>>>> recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if >>>>> something >>>>> is very sof
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What do you mean by report for them? Well obviously they won't do nothing about the PTR1 as it technically doesn't exist anymore. But yeah the PTR2 maybe. Thing is to get an updated list of cards. Cause the ones on the site are the 2006 ones. On 5/7/2017 3:58 AM, Aidan wrote: Perhaps you should report for plextalk and see if they can help you testing. On 06/05/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: Who are Andre and Anthony? As for the PTR2 it is epic. I'm just saying that before 1 buys 1 cause you can still buy 1 if you wish. But before ya do so I think it's best to borrow 1 from a homy which is the gangsta word for friend and try some CF cards. See if it doesn't do like the PTR1. Or maybe it's mi PTR1 that has the issue. Cause like I said mine has rejected 3 CF cards in a row. That's something like 30 dolars down the John. I don't know why it's being so dam picky all of the sudden. On 5/6/2017 8:45 AM, Aidan wrote: Andre, Anthony and his team cell them since last year. Hamit, you so rite, I would love to try out the ptr2 and I think its put together very well, but yes the hardware is a big show stopper, and you will be better off with bookport dt from APH if you want to go that root. I cannot compare drive of ptn2 with ptn1 as I did not experience ptn1, but I think it will be better since one of the firmware updates did address issues with the drive. On 06/05/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote: Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired? -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in a package. I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said. I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do great work. The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of all. Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better. Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio, e-books and daisy. On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote: The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 hours, now. I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue. At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote: I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16 with prolonged use. The Iphone of course, is also excellent for listening to BARD books, but with so many other apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books. The problem is that we are slowly becoming pack horses, when you take into consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine. Everything could be improved of course. The NLS players could solve the battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability; the Milestone could add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it uses the wire of the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, etc. Regards, Humber
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Ah the compas would come in verry handy. Just so as 1 knows which way is waht. The caluclator too. I use the 1 in my PTR1 here and there. But what is a calcugraph? On 5/7/2017 1:31 PM, Kenny wrote: Let me ask you a question about this Evo E10 Daisy Digital Recorder/Player: Does it offer integrated functionality to search OOTunes and Wikipedia? Does it allow you to save any audio stream you do like as Favorites for quick access? Does it allow you to access your NFB and Bookshare content from within the player? Does it allow you to use the beautiful Samantha TTS voice? I mean having a compass, calculator and calcugraph sounds great for someone in school, but how many casual users would ever use these features? Just want to know more about this EVO E10 from someone who owns it. Do love the fact it comes with 8 GB of internal memory though. At 01:39 PM 5/5/2017, you wrote: Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in a package. I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said. I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do great work. The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of all. Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better. Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio, e-books and daisy. On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote: > The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 > hours, now. I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue. > > At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote: >>I read quite a lot and while at home, in my >>opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its >>good sound, long-lasting battery, although the >>battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly >>degrades to about 16 with prolonged use. The >>Iphone of course, is also excellent for >>listening to BARD books, but with so many other >>apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, >>plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer >>to also take the Milestone 312 for the books. >> >>The problem is that we are slowly becoming pack >>horses, when you take into consideration that >>when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, >>Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine. >> >>Everything could be improved of course. The NLS >>players could solve the battery-life issue plus >>add Bluetooth capability; the Milestone could >>add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM >>radio, for now it uses the wire of the >>headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, >> etc. >> >>Regards, >> >>Humberto >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Pc-audio >>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos >>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM >>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >> >>Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much >>better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never >>seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS >>player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use i
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Let me ask you a question about this Evo E10 Daisy Digital Recorder/Player: Does it offer integrated functionality to search OOTunes and Wikipedia? Does it allow you to save any audio stream you do like as Favorites for quick access? Does it allow you to access your NFB and Bookshare content from within the player? Does it allow you to use the beautiful Samantha TTS voice? I mean having a compass, calculator and calcugraph sounds great for someone in school, but how many casual users would ever use these features? Just want to know more about this EVO E10 from someone who owns it. Do love the fact it comes with 8 GB of internal memory though. At 01:39 PM 5/5/2017, you wrote: Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in a package. I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said. I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do great work. The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of all. Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better. Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio, e-books and daisy. On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote: > The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 > hours, now. I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue. > > At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote: >>I read quite a lot and while at home, in my >>opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its >>good sound, long-lasting battery, although the >>battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly >>degrades to about 16 with prolonged use. The >>Iphone of course, is also excellent for >>listening to BARD books, but with so many other >>apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, >>plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer >>to also take the Milestone 312 for the books. >> >>The problem is that we are slowly becoming pack >>horses, when you take into consideration that >>when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, >>Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine. >> >>Everything could be improved of course. The NLS >>players could solve the battery-life issue plus >>add Bluetooth capability; the Milestone could >>add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM >>radio, for now it uses the wire of the >>headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, >> etc. >> >>Regards, >> >>Humberto >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Pc-audio >>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos >>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM >>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >> >>Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much >>better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never >>seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS >>player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though. >>What with the app being on my phone. >> >> >>On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote: >> > Hello Hamit: >> > >> > Yes,
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Perhaps you should report for plextalk and see if they can help you testing. On 06/05/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: > Who are Andre and Anthony? As for the PTR2 it is epic. I'm just saying > that before 1 buys 1 cause you can still buy 1 if you wish. But before > ya do so I think it's best to borrow 1 from a homy which is the gangsta > word for friend and try some CF cards. See if it doesn't do like the > PTR1. Or maybe it's mi PTR1 that has the issue. Cause like I said mine > has rejected 3 CF cards in a row. That's something like 30 dolars down > the John. I don't know why it's being so dam picky all of the sudden. > > > On 5/6/2017 8:45 AM, Aidan wrote: >> Andre, Anthony and his team cell them since last year. >> Hamit, you so rite, I would love to try out the ptr2 and I think its >> put together very well, but yes the hardware is a big show stopper, >> and you will be better off with bookport dt from APH if you want to go >> that root. I cannot compare drive of ptn2 with ptn1 as I did not >> experience ptn1, but I think it will be better since one of the >> firmware updates did address issues with the drive. >> >> On 06/05/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote: >>> Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired? >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan >>> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>> >>> Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy >>> hardware >>> and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that >>> PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is >>> really >>> not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the >>> 212 >>> as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in >>> a >>> package. >>> I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said. >>> I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update >>> it >>> more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is >>> the >>> evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do >>> great work. >>> The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general >>> is >>> very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things >>> with >>> the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of >>> all. >>> Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon >>> will >>> hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice >>> memos, >>> voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is >>> actually >>> so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to >>> set >>> recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if >>> something >>> is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better. >>> Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used >>> are >>> there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits. >>> It >>> uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks, >>> and >>> customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files. >>> It >>> have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely >>> stable >>> firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for >>> updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound >>> louder >>> than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback >>> position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable >>> audio, >>> e-books and daisy. >>> >>> On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote: >>>> The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 hours, now. I don't >>>> know why they can't solve the battery life issue. >>>> >>>> At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote: >>>>> I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the >>>>> NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the >>>>> battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degra
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Who are Andre and Anthony? As for the PTR2 it is epic. I'm just saying that before 1 buys 1 cause you can still buy 1 if you wish. But before ya do so I think it's best to borrow 1 from a homy which is the gangsta word for friend and try some CF cards. See if it doesn't do like the PTR1. Or maybe it's mi PTR1 that has the issue. Cause like I said mine has rejected 3 CF cards in a row. That's something like 30 dolars down the John. I don't know why it's being so dam picky all of the sudden. On 5/6/2017 8:45 AM, Aidan wrote: Andre, Anthony and his team cell them since last year. Hamit, you so rite, I would love to try out the ptr2 and I think its put together very well, but yes the hardware is a big show stopper, and you will be better off with bookport dt from APH if you want to go that root. I cannot compare drive of ptn2 with ptn1 as I did not experience ptn1, but I think it will be better since one of the firmware updates did address issues with the drive. On 06/05/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote: Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired? -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in a package. I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said. I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do great work. The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of all. Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better. Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio, e-books and daisy. On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote: The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 hours, now. I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue. At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote: I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16 with prolonged use. The Iphone of course, is also excellent for listening to BARD books, but with so many other apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books. The problem is that we are slowly becoming pack horses, when you take into consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine. Everything could be improved of course. The NLS players could solve the battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability; the Milestone could add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it uses the wire of the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, etc. Regards, Humberto -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never seen 1 and wa
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Andre, Anthony and his team cell them since last year. Hamit, you so rite, I would love to try out the ptr2 and I think its put together very well, but yes the hardware is a big show stopper, and you will be better off with bookport dt from APH if you want to go that root. I cannot compare drive of ptn2 with ptn1 as I did not experience ptn1, but I think it will be better since one of the firmware updates did address issues with the drive. On 06/05/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote: > Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired? > > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan > Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy hardware > and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that > PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is really > not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the 212 > as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in a > package. > I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said. > I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update it > more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is the > evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do > great work. > The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general is > very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things with > the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of > all. > Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon will > hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice memos, > voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is actually > so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to set > recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if something > is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better. > Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used are > there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits. It > uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks, and > customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files. It > have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable > firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for > updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder > than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback > position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio, > e-books and daisy. > > On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote: >> The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 hours, now. I don't >> know why they can't solve the battery life issue. >> >> At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote: >>>I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the >>>NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the >>>battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16 >>>with prolonged use. The Iphone of course, is also excellent for >>>listening to BARD books, but with so many other apps on the Iphone and >>>now with unlimited data, plus texting and the telephone itself, I >>>prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books. >>> >>>The problem is that we are slowly becoming pack horses, when you take >>>into consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, >>>Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine. >>> >>>Everything could be improved of course. The NLS players could solve >>>the battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability; the Milestone >>>could add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it >>>uses the wire of the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able >>>to save the text it scans, etc. >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Humberto >>> >>> >>>-Original Message- >>>From: Pc-audio >>>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos >>>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM >>>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>> >>>Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much >>&g
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Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired? -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in a package. I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said. I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do great work. The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of all. Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better. Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio, e-books and daisy. On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote: > The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 hours, now. I don't > know why they can't solve the battery life issue. > > At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote: >>I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the >>NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the >>battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16 >>with prolonged use. The Iphone of course, is also excellent for >>listening to BARD books, but with so many other apps on the Iphone and >>now with unlimited data, plus texting and the telephone itself, I >>prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books. >> >>The problem is that we are slowly becoming pack horses, when you take >>into consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, >>Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine. >> >>Everything could be improved of course. The NLS players could solve >>the battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability; the Milestone >>could add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it >>uses the wire of the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able >>to save the text it scans, etc. >> >>Regards, >> >>Humberto >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Pc-audio >>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos >>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM >>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >> >>Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much >>better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never >>seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS >>player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though. >>What with the app being on my phone. >> >> >>On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote: >> > Hello Hamit: >> > >> > Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, >> except as I said, that it does not have Wi-Fi. I also have a VRS but >> one of the first generation. I do not use the Milestone for >> recording except for emergencies, I have an Olympus DS-50 for that >> and I normally do not record stereo, mostly monoaural voice. >> > >> > The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with >> a grill in front, rath
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Amen to that. Look at how plextalk's still selling the PTR2. Now maybe my PTR1's jaded me. Whith how it's rejected 3 cards in a row. Three in a row dam it. I don't understand how people that bought the PTR2 from 08 to today this verry day are getting buy. If anyone like this is here on list and wants to shed some light for me please let me know either here or off list. I'd really love to know how 1 justifies $995. I'm not bashing. Like you said at the start of your message I too wish they'd update the thing. Make a PTR3. Fine keep the CD writer for what ever it's worth, but lift the dam limits off the card reader. Cause even compact flash is still a thing but it's not the thing of 2006. There are 128 GB CF cards. I've seen them on Amazon. They also have some tech I can't remember the name of right now that Sound Devices also takes advantage of that makes them fast. Like dude come on. So how's the PTN2? Is the drive loads quieter then the PTN1's drive? I've seen the PTP1 it's cool. It's a mini PTR1. I still have my ptr1 and it is a shame it's rejecting CF cards left and right. I'd love to continue useing it for things here and there while it lasts. Though I'd love to get a PTR2. I had 1 for a bit. But it went south after a bit. I miiss it. It was epic. Though thhis new Cchinese player sounds cool. On 5/5/2017 1:39 PM, Aidan wrote: Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in a package. I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said. I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do great work. The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of all. Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better. Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio, e-books and daisy. On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote: The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 hours, now. I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue. At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote: I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16 with prolonged use. The Iphone of course, is also excellent for listening to BARD books, but with so many other apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books. The problem is that we are slowly becoming pack horses, when you take into consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine. Everything could be improved of course. The NLS players could solve the battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability; the Milestone could add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it uses the wire of the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, etc. Regards, Humberto -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've
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Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in a package. I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said. I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do great work. The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of all. Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better. Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio, e-books and daisy. On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote: > The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 > hours, now. I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue. > > At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote: >>I read quite a lot and while at home, in my >>opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its >>good sound, long-lasting battery, although the >>battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly >>degrades to about 16 with prolonged use. The >>Iphone of course, is also excellent for >>listening to BARD books, but with so many other >>apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, >>plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer >>to also take the Milestone 312 for the books. >> >>The problem is that we are slowly becoming pack >>horses, when you take into consideration that >>when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, >>Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine. >> >>Everything could be improved of course. The NLS >>players could solve the battery-life issue plus >>add Bluetooth capability; the Milestone could >>add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM >>radio, for now it uses the wire of the >>headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, >> etc. >> >>Regards, >> >>Humberto >> >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Pc-audio >>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos >>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM >>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >> >>Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much >>better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never >>seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS >>player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though. >>What with the app being on my phone. >> >> >>On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote: >> > Hello Hamit: >> > >> > Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, >> except as I said, that it does not have >> Wi-Fi. I also have a VRS but one of the first >> generation. I do not use the Milestone for >> recording except for emergencies, I have an >> Olympus DS-50 for that and I normally do not >> record stereo, mostly monoaural voice. >> > >> > The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with >> a grill in front, rather large for the size of >> the hardware, that plays excellent sound, >> albeit mono; to hear stereo you must use >> headphones, but either way the sound is >> remarkable for such a small player. It also has FM radio. >>
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The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 hours, now. I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue. At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote: I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16 with prolonged use. The Iphone of course, is also excellent for listening to BARD books, but with so many other apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books. The problem is that we are slowly becoming pack horses, when you take into consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine. Everything could be improved of course. The NLS players could solve the battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability; the Milestone could add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it uses the wire of the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, etc. Regards, Humberto -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though. What with the app being on my phone. On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote: > Hello Hamit: > > Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, except as I said, that it does not have Wi-Fi. I also have a VRS but one of the first generation. I do not use the Milestone for recording except for emergencies, I have an Olympus DS-50 for that and I normally do not record stereo, mostly monoaural voice. > > The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with a grill in front, rather large for the size of the hardware, that plays excellent sound, albeit mono; to hear stereo you must use headphones, but either way the sound is remarkable for such a small player. It also has FM radio. > > I normally use the NLS player to listen to BARD books at home, but when travelling or otherwise away from home, use mostly my Milestone, I prefer it due to size and clarity of sound. > > Regards, > > Humberto > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos > Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the MileStone > cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. This comming > from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out cause my DM420 > died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts as it doesn't > hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off it'll jump out of > the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? Yeah during the day > sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of Victor Quality. I really > wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB the bord of education and > services for the blind of Connecticut doesn't have a deal with IRTI no > more apparently. Oh wells. So what's the new mile stone like? Can you > send me a recording made with it? Especially if you've used stereo mikes > with it? Thanks. > > > On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote: >> I am amazed that during this long discussion nobody has mentioned the Milestone, that Swiss machine with great speaker sound that also plays NLS books and is much smaller than the VRS. Perhaps because it does not have Wi-Fi? >> >> Humberto >> >> Humberto Rodriguez >> Fort White, Florida >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Schindler >> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >> >> Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with >> radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision >> to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and >> a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input. >> >> The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as >> good as the Olympus machines bu
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Yo Humberto! What a funny coincident. I also use a CPap machine. It's even more important to me then my girlfriend I think. Grin But why not look into some of the new exciting Android devices like the Samsung Galaxy S8, or the cheeper Huawei phones? Have you guys ever heard about the Capsys SmartVision 2? It's a super cool smartphone made in france that also has lots of special apps for the blind build in, and a reasonable battery cycle. At least it holds power for more than double the time then it's the case for an iPhone. It's a combined keypad and touch screen phone especially build up from the ground to serve the visually impaired users. Further more it's equipped with a micro sd card reader, so memory will never be an issue again. Right now I have a really weird issue with my iPad that Apple has a hard time fixing, and I tell you. If they can't or won't fix that I'd never ever buy a unit from Apple again. I off course hope the best. Smile Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Humberto Rodriguez Sendt: 4. maj 2017 16:08 Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16 with prolonged use. The Iphone of course, is also excellent for listening to BARD books, but with so many other apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books. The problem is that we are slowly becoming pack horses, when you take into consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine. Everything could be improved of course. The NLS players could solve the battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability; the Milestone could add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it uses the wire of the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, etc. Regards, Humberto -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though. What with the app being on my phone. On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote: > Hello Hamit: > > Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, except as I said, that it does > not have Wi-Fi. I also have a VRS but one of the first generation. I do not > use the Milestone for recording except for emergencies, I have an Olympus > DS-50 for that and I normally do not record stereo, mostly monoaural voice. > > The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with a grill in front, rather large > for the size of the hardware, that plays excellent sound, albeit mono; to > hear stereo you must use headphones, but either way the sound is remarkable > for such a small player. It also has FM radio. > > I normally use the NLS player to listen to BARD books at home, but when > travelling or otherwise away from home, use mostly my Milestone, I prefer it > due to size and clarity of sound. > > Regards, > > Humberto > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Hamit Campos > Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the > MileStone cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. > This comming from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out > cause my DM420 died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts > as it doesn't hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off > it'll jump out of the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? > Yeah during the day sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of > Victor Quality. I really wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB > the bord of education and services for the blind of Connecticut > doesn't have a deal with IRTI no more apparently. Oh wells. So what's > the new mile stone like? Can you send me a recording made with it? > Especially if you've used stereo mikes with it? Thanks. > > > On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote: >> I am ama
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I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16 with prolonged use. The Iphone of course, is also excellent for listening to BARD books, but with so many other apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books. The problem is that we are slowly becoming pack horses, when you take into consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine. Everything could be improved of course. The NLS players could solve the battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability; the Milestone could add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it uses the wire of the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, etc. Regards, Humberto -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though. What with the app being on my phone. On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote: > Hello Hamit: > > Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, except as I said, that it does > not have Wi-Fi. I also have a VRS but one of the first generation. I do not > use the Milestone for recording except for emergencies, I have an Olympus > DS-50 for that and I normally do not record stereo, mostly monoaural voice. > > The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with a grill in front, rather large > for the size of the hardware, that plays excellent sound, albeit mono; to > hear stereo you must use headphones, but either way the sound is remarkable > for such a small player. It also has FM radio. > > I normally use the NLS player to listen to BARD books at home, but when > travelling or otherwise away from home, use mostly my Milestone, I prefer it > due to size and clarity of sound. > > Regards, > > Humberto > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit > Campos > Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the MileStone > cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. This comming > from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out cause my DM420 > died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts as it doesn't > hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off it'll jump out of > the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? Yeah during the day > sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of Victor Quality. I really > wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB the bord of education and > services for the blind of Connecticut doesn't have a deal with IRTI no > more apparently. Oh wells. So what's the new mile stone like? Can you > send me a recording made with it? Especially if you've used stereo mikes > with it? Thanks. > > > On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote: >> I am amazed that during this long discussion nobody has mentioned the >> Milestone, that Swiss machine with great speaker sound that also plays NLS >> books and is much smaller than the VRS. Perhaps because it does not have >> Wi-Fi? >> >> Humberto >> >> Humberto Rodriguez >> Fort White, Florida >> >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary >> Schindler >> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >> >> Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with >> radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision >> to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and >> a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input. >> >> The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as >> good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you >> don't have sight you pay handsomely for the a
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Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though. What with the app being on my phone. On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote: Hello Hamit: Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, except as I said, that it does not have Wi-Fi. I also have a VRS but one of the first generation. I do not use the Milestone for recording except for emergencies, I have an Olympus DS-50 for that and I normally do not record stereo, mostly monoaural voice. The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with a grill in front, rather large for the size of the hardware, that plays excellent sound, albeit mono; to hear stereo you must use headphones, but either way the sound is remarkable for such a small player. It also has FM radio. I normally use the NLS player to listen to BARD books at home, but when travelling or otherwise away from home, use mostly my Milestone, I prefer it due to size and clarity of sound. Regards, Humberto -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the MileStone cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. This comming from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out cause my DM420 died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts as it doesn't hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off it'll jump out of the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? Yeah during the day sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of Victor Quality. I really wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB the bord of education and services for the blind of Connecticut doesn't have a deal with IRTI no more apparently. Oh wells. So what's the new mile stone like? Can you send me a recording made with it? Especially if you've used stereo mikes with it? Thanks. On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote: I am amazed that during this long discussion nobody has mentioned the Milestone, that Swiss machine with great speaker sound that also plays NLS books and is much smaller than the VRS. Perhaps because it does not have Wi-Fi? Humberto Humberto Rodriguez Fort White, Florida -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Schindler Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input. The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you don't have sight you pay handsomely for the ability to have accessibility to outmoded technology for a small niche market. If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be buying the Victor Streams or Bookports at all. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder? On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream. The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money as the stream. Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I
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Yeah it's also wider on the IPhone. Also Dain like me could be spoiled by hi end audio. lol Not bashing ya Dain. Just remember my story when I brought out my PTR1. Which was my favorite. I've been so spoiled by Bose that I was like oh yuck what the heck is this? No harsh crisp s's or f's. What's going on here? But that was it. I was so use to Bose. Heck I had even otherized FS Reader so I'd even been listening to RFB books with Bose. So the shock to go back to PTR1. Like I said too, the PTR1 was my favorite DAISY player. Till the PTR2 came along. On 5/3/2017 2:29 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Dane: I guess I am missing something, but I have just finished comparing the sound of my VR Stream to the sound of my speaker on my Iphone 6; I fail to hear this "muffleness" that you speak of on the stream! Granted: the Iphone is a bit easier on my ears than the VR Stream! But with the VR Stream (at least is the case with mine) it definitely does seem to have the highs (doesn't really sound muffled to my ear! So the only thing I can conclude is this: it is possible that maybe if someone doesn't have good hearing, maybe this is how the VR Stream's speaker would sound to a person who has a hearing loss? Just listened again...and seem to still be able to hear the "ses" and Fs" on the stream; have the same internet station on; I'll repeat, I find that the Iphone is "easier on the ears"; my guess here is that the VRR Stream's speaker may be smaller in size than the speaker on the Iphone? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 1:03 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Sorry but a lot of you still don't seem to get my point. Yes, the VR Stream is designed with speech in mind that I grant you and I have absolutely no arguement with that but the internal speaker - even by speech standards - is not good, very mid-range yes but lacking top so some people may get confused with say S and F particularly given the fact that TTS is used a lot of the time. Most devices these days - Smart Devices are a case in point - have very clear and chrisp tops that makes listening to music, speech etc very enjoyable and understandable. To prove my point, go listen to a Daisy book on your VR Stream and then - using Voice Dream Reader or something similar - go listen to that book on your iPhone or whatever and you'll soon hear what I'm talking about. Now if you like things that way - speech without a distinct top - then fine! but I think its a great shame that a good speaker is an omission on the VR Strea. Yep I grant you, the quality is far better than that found on the first generation of VR Stream. I've not used a Plextalk Pocket but I have used other Plextalk machines and the speakers in those are absolutely fantastic. On 4/05/2017 12:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream. The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money as the stream. Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Strea
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Yeah. But for DTBs though now RFB as it use to be called has an app. Bard has an app. So just for books alone I'm not sure 1 can justify these things no more. Other than that the VRStream or what I would prefer the Plextalk Pocket are just for that alone. On 5/3/2017 4:56 PM, Gary Schindler wrote: Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input. The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you don't have sight you pay handsomely for the ability to have accessibility to outmoded technology for a small niche market. If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be buying the Victor Streams or Bookports at all. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder? On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream. The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money as the stream. Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. P
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Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the MileStone cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. This comming from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out cause my DM420 died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts as it doesn't hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off it'll jump out of the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? Yeah during the day sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of Victor Quality. I really wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB the bord of education and services for the blind of Connecticut doesn't have a deal with IRTI no more apparently. Oh wells. So what's the new mile stone like? Can you send me a recording made with it? Especially if you've used stereo mikes with it? Thanks. On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote: I am amazed that during this long discussion nobody has mentioned the Milestone, that Swiss machine with great speaker sound that also plays NLS books and is much smaller than the VRS. Perhaps because it does not have Wi-Fi? Humberto Humberto Rodriguez Fort White, Florida -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Schindler Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input. The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you don't have sight you pay handsomely for the ability to have accessibility to outmoded technology for a small niche market. If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be buying the Victor Streams or Bookports at all. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder? On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream. The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money as the stream. Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings b
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I am amazed that during this long discussion nobody has mentioned the Milestone, that Swiss machine with great speaker sound that also plays NLS books and is much smaller than the VRS. Perhaps because it does not have Wi-Fi? Humberto Humberto Rodriguez Fort White, Florida -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Schindler Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input. The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you don't have sight you pay handsomely for the ability to have accessibility to outmoded technology for a small niche market. If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be buying the Victor Streams or Bookports at all. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder? On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: > Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books > with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 > player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it > and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are > paying for accessible menus with the stream. > > The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money > as the stream. > > Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books > even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context. > > -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM > To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys > high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff > sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the > player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and > report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something > that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the > other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm > buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. > > I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services > like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the > stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a > particular job like that done. > > > On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: >> Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk >> Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. >> >> >> On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand >>> that later firmware updates had fixed this. >>> Too late to try that here now . >>> >>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or >>>> whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable >>>> all-purpose player/recorder. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - >>>> using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so >>>> surely this should be reasonable. >>>> So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the >>>> line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. >>>> >>>>> On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high >>>>> broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. >>>>> >>>>> Jamie >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>&g
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Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input. The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you don't have sight you pay handsomely for the ability to have accessibility to outmoded technology for a small niche market. If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be buying the Victor Streams or Bookports at all. -Original Message- From: Hamit Campos Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder? On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream. The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money as the stream. Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon &
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Hi They also have a version without all the scanning jazz for about the same price as the Stream. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Gary Schindler Sendt: 3. maj 2017 16:56 Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Emne: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream. The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money as the stream. Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: > Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The > Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. > > > On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand >> that later firmware updates had fixed this. >> Too late to try that here now . >> >>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or >>> whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable >>> all-purpose player/recorder. >>> >>> Regards >>> Tim >>> >>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - >>> using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so >>> surely this should be reasonable. >>> So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use >>> the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. >>> >>>> On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high >>>> broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. >>>> >>>> Jamie >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>> Dane Trethowan >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>>> >>>> Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as >>>> we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious >>>> limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really >>>> want to try and download a good quality audio stream. >>>> And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. >>>> Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, >>>> I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to >>>> browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for >>>> files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that >>>> can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which >>>> and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. >>>> Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though >>>> hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will >>>> take until Christmas for
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With the Humanware Companion software, I download BARD books from the website to my PC, where the Companion software automatically organizes them into alphabetically-arranged folders. Then I copy the books to my Stream using an SD card. Very fast and no thinking involved. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: > Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The > Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. > > > On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand >> that later firmware updates had fixed this. >> Too late to try that here now . >> >>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or >>> whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable >>> all-purpose player/recorder. >>> >>> Regards >>> Tim >>> >>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - >>> using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so >>> surely this should be reasonable. >>> So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use >>> the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. >>> >>>> On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high >>>> broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. >>>> >>>> Jamie >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>> Dane Trethowan >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>>> >>>> Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as >>>> we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious >>>> limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really >>>> want to try and download a good quality audio stream. >>>> And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. >>>> Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, >>>> I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to >>>> browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for >>>> files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that >>>> can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which >>>> and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. >>>> Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though >>>> hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will >>>> take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . >>>> Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about >>>> that. >>>> >>>>> On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I love my Victor Stream. >>>>> The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate >>>>> internet radio stations. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> Fr
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Dane: I guess I am missing something, but I have just finished comparing the sound of my VR Stream to the sound of my speaker on my Iphone 6; I fail to hear this "muffleness" that you speak of on the stream! Granted: the Iphone is a bit easier on my ears than the VR Stream! But with the VR Stream (at least is the case with mine) it definitely does seem to have the highs (doesn't really sound muffled to my ear! So the only thing I can conclude is this: it is possible that maybe if someone doesn't have good hearing, maybe this is how the VR Stream's speaker would sound to a person who has a hearing loss? Just listened again...and seem to still be able to hear the "ses" and Fs" on the stream; have the same internet station on; I'll repeat, I find that the Iphone is "easier on the ears"; my guess here is that the VRR Stream's speaker may be smaller in size than the speaker on the Iphone? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 1:03 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Sorry but a lot of you still don't seem to get my point. Yes, the VR Stream is designed with speech in mind that I grant you and I have absolutely no arguement with that but the internal speaker - even by speech standards - is not good, very mid-range yes but lacking top so some people may get confused with say S and F particularly given the fact that TTS is used a lot of the time. Most devices these days - Smart Devices are a case in point - have very clear and chrisp tops that makes listening to music, speech etc very enjoyable and understandable. To prove my point, go listen to a Daisy book on your VR Stream and then - using Voice Dream Reader or something similar - go listen to that book on your iPhone or whatever and you'll soon hear what I'm talking about. Now if you like things that way - speech without a distinct top - then fine! but I think its a great shame that a good speaker is an omission on the VR Strea. Yep I grant you, the quality is far better than that found on the first generation of VR Stream. I've not used a Plextalk Pocket but I have used other Plextalk machines and the speakers in those are absolutely fantastic. On 4/05/2017 12:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: > Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books > with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 > player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker > in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is > that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream. > > The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much > money as the stream. > > Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard > books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context. > > -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM > To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys > high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff > sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the > player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and > report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something > that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the > other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm > buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. > > I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services > like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the > stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a > particular job like that done. > > > On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: >> Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The >> Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. >> >> >> On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand >>> that later firmware updates had fixed this. >>> Too late to try that here now . >>> >>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or >>>> whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable >>>> all-purpose player/recorder. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> On
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Amen, Gary! -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Schindler Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 10:56 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream. The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money as the stream. Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: > Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk > Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. > > > On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that >> later firmware updates had fixed this. >> Too late to try that here now . >> >>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or >>> whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable >>> all-purpose player/recorder. >>> >>> Regards >>> Tim >>> >>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - >>> using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so >>> surely this should be reasonable. >>> So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the >>> line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. >>> >>>> On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high >>>> broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. >>>> >>>> Jamie >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane >>>> Trethowan >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>>> >>>> Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve >>>> discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation >>>> and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try >>>> and download a good quality audio stream. >>>> And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. >>>> Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I >>>> wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse >>>> NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just >>>> about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet >>>> radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be >>>> an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. >>>> Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware >>>> take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until >>>> Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . >>>> Regarding my own streaM/ Its found
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Sorry but a lot of you still don't seem to get my point. Yes, the VR Stream is designed with speech in mind that I grant you and I have absolutely no arguement with that but the internal speaker - even by speech standards - is not good, very mid-range yes but lacking top so some people may get confused with say S and F particularly given the fact that TTS is used a lot of the time. Most devices these days - Smart Devices are a case in point - have very clear and chrisp tops that makes listening to music, speech etc very enjoyable and understandable. To prove my point, go listen to a Daisy book on your VR Stream and then - using Voice Dream Reader or something similar - go listen to that book on your iPhone or whatever and you'll soon hear what I'm talking about. Now if you like things that way - speech without a distinct top - then fine! but I think its a great shame that a good speaker is an omission on the VR Strea. Yep I grant you, the quality is far better than that found on the first generation of VR Stream. I've not used a Plextalk Pocket but I have used other Plextalk machines and the speakers in those are absolutely fantastic. On 4/05/2017 12:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream. The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money as the stream. Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future
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Well know, I don't have to remember that at all because we can argue - quite correctly - that we're paying a premium price for this technology, technology - hardware and software in the main - which is common place and in the public domain. On 4/05/2017 12:41 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: Let's remember when you buy the Victor stream you are paying for a player that plays specially formatted books with a few features for added convinceconveniences -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: I love my Victor Stream. The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet radio stations. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but
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What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder? On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream. The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money as the stream. Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: I love my Victor Stream. The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet radio stations. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as some of you guy
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Ah that's right the origenal Stream handeled the Bard Books way before the NLS came out with their own player. You're right. On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream. The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money as the stream. Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: I love my Victor Stream. The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet radio stations. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the play
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Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream. The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money as the stream. Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: I love my Victor Stream. The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet radio stations. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this is just now coming up, as the new generation s
Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
The only things I can compare to even the clasic Victors and the Strattus is tape players. I don't know why HumanWare has chosen that tape player quality for though. On 5/3/2017 10:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: I'm telling you now, - regardless of the bit rate - the speaker in the Stream could have a better sound, just plug a very average sounding spekaer you can get at the discount store and you'll soon see what I mean. I really need to rack my brains to find anything I have here that sounds muffled at the top end as the Stream does, can't think of anything off hand. Anyway the Stream's in the past for me now, time to look at the blaze ET and of course I'll be interested to hear the speakers in that unit though - judging by the one Hims Inc product I've owned - a Voice Sense - I'm expecting pretty good sound. On 3/05/2017 11:16 PM, Hamit Campos wrote: Yeah. Now I've not even seen the Blaze. So can't really Judge 1. But yeah as good as the Plextalks sound to me sure they're no Bose. But meh okay for MP3 at 32 kbps. I think this is why most DAISY players ain't real good. Cause DAISY books. Talking Books are mostly recorded at kinda low quality. Even for recording. If you're okay with CD audio, than fine. But none of these do Blu-Ray audio. Which is 96 KHZ at 24 bits. Or even better 192 KHZ. Oh and no XLR or Phantum Power. What I'm basicaly saying is that yeah there's loads and loads to nit pick and rightly so cause these things are so dam expensive but meh they are what they are and if you're okay with that what evs. Though now you could use the Bard app. I don't know where you are but here in the USA you can now use the app for Learning Ally which use to be RFB So these aren't so needed no more. On 5/3/2017 9:05 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR
Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
That's exactly right. On 5/3/2017 10:41 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: Let's remember when you buy the Victor stream you are paying for a player that plays specially formatted books with a few features for added convinceconveniences -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: I love my Victor Stream. The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet radio stations. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed wi
Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
Let's remember when you buy the Victor stream you are paying for a player that plays specially formatted books with a few features for added convinceconveniences -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: I love my Victor Stream. The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet radio stations. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi
Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I'm telling you now, - regardless of the bit rate - the speaker in the Stream could have a better sound, just plug a very average sounding spekaer you can get at the discount store and you'll soon see what I mean. I really need to rack my brains to find anything I have here that sounds muffled at the top end as the Stream does, can't think of anything off hand. Anyway the Stream's in the past for me now, time to look at the blaze ET and of course I'll be interested to hear the speakers in that unit though - judging by the one Hims Inc product I've owned - a Voice Sense - I'm expecting pretty good sound. On 3/05/2017 11:16 PM, Hamit Campos wrote: Yeah. Now I've not even seen the Blaze. So can't really Judge 1. But yeah as good as the Plextalks sound to me sure they're no Bose. But meh okay for MP3 at 32 kbps. I think this is why most DAISY players ain't real good. Cause DAISY books. Talking Books are mostly recorded at kinda low quality. Even for recording. If you're okay with CD audio, than fine. But none of these do Blu-Ray audio. Which is 96 KHZ at 24 bits. Or even better 192 KHZ. Oh and no XLR or Phantum Power. What I'm basicaly saying is that yeah there's loads and loads to nit pick and rightly so cause these things are so dam expensive but meh they are what they are and if you're okay with that what evs. Though now you could use the Bard app. I don't know where you are but here in the USA you can now use the app for Learning Ally which use to be RFB So these aren't so needed no more. On 5/3/2017 9:05 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: I love my Victor Stream. The best thing about
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Okay normally I'd agree with you but in this case? We're not being picky about audio, fact is the speaker in the VR Stream 2nd generation - whilst a vast improvement on that of the 1st generation - is not a good speaker. On 3/05/2017 11:05 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: I love my Victor Stream. The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet radio stations. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm
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Yeah. Now I've not even seen the Blaze. So can't really Judge 1. But yeah as good as the Plextalks sound to me sure they're no Bose. But meh okay for MP3 at 32 kbps. I think this is why most DAISY players ain't real good. Cause DAISY books. Talking Books are mostly recorded at kinda low quality. Even for recording. If you're okay with CD audio, than fine. But none of these do Blu-Ray audio. Which is 96 KHZ at 24 bits. Or even better 192 KHZ. Oh and no XLR or Phantum Power. What I'm basicaly saying is that yeah there's loads and loads to nit pick and rightly so cause these things are so dam expensive but meh they are what they are and if you're okay with that what evs. Though now you could use the Bard app. I don't know where you are but here in the USA you can now use the app for Learning Ally which use to be RFB So these aren't so needed no more. On 5/3/2017 9:05 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: I love my Victor Stream. The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet radio stations. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon Fios, so downloading books manually and
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I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it. I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done. On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: I love my Victor Stream. The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet radio stations. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reade
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Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder. On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: I love my Victor Stream. The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet radio stations. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date
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Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this. Too late to try that here now . > On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote: > > Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles > in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose > player/recorder. > > Regards > Tim > > On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: > > I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using > this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this > should be reasonable. > So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the > line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. > >> On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast >> quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. >> >> Jamie >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane >> Trethowan >> Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >> >> Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve >> discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - >> given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download >> a good quality audio stream. >> And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. >> Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder >> why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage >> devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other >> device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas >> this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for >> users of a VR Stream. >> Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take >> my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for >> the VR Stream users to download . >> Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. >> >>> On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> I love my Victor Stream. >>> The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet >>> radio stations. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>> Hamit Campos >>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>> >>> Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either >>> didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. >>> >>> >>> On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: >>>> I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report >>>> on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon >>>> Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the >>>> player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as >>>> slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this >>>> is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for >>>> some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but >>>> maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that >>>> time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: >>>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those >>>>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi >>>>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says >>>>> that reception is poor. >>>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that >>>>> little package. >>>>> Evan >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2
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Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder. Regards Tim On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. > On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast > quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. > > Jamie > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve > discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - > given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a > good quality audio stream. > And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. > Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder > why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage > devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other > device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas > this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users > of a VR Stream. > Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my > advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the > VR Stream users to download . > Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. > >> On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: >> >> I love my Victor Stream. >> The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet >> radio stations. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >> Hamit Campos >> Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >> >> Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either >> didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. >> >> >> On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: >>> I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report >>> on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon >>> Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the >>> player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as >>> slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this >>> is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for >>> some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but >>> maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that >>> time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: >>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those >>>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi >>>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says >>>> that reception is poor. >>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that >>>> little package. >>>> Evan >>>> >>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan >>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on >>>> my purchase. >>>> >>>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in >>>> most respects. >>>> >>>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - >>>> having already heard a VR Stream - I was alre
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I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage. > On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast > quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. > > Jamie > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve > discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - > given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a > good quality audio stream. > And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. > Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder > why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage > devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other > device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas > this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users > of a VR Stream. > Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my > advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the > VR Stream users to download . > Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. > >> On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: >> >> I love my Victor Stream. >> The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet >> radio stations. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >> Hamit Campos >> Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >> >> Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either >> didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. >> >> >> On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: >>> I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report >>> on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon >>> Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the >>> player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as >>> slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this >>> is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for >>> some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but >>> maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that >>> time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: >>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those >>>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi >>>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says >>>> that reception is poor. >>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that >>>> little package. >>>> Evan >>>> >>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan >>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on >>>> my purchase. >>>> >>>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in >>>> most respects. >>>> >>>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - >>>> having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, >>>> a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a >>>> small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for >>>> years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have >>>
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Yep and thanks for mentioning this, - now that I’ve seen the VR Stream - the Blaze ET will certainly be on my shopping list. As to why the ET wasn’t mentioned before? Probably for the simple reason that we were wasting our collective time discussing the VR Stream . > On 3 May 2017, at 5:15 pm, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote: > > Hi, > I don't know, why the Hims Blaze ET has not been menchened as it's a > scarrylly cool unit that also has Bluetooth support. > https://hims-inc.com/products/blaze-et/ > > Best regards > Brian > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane > Trethowan > Sendt: 3. maj 2017 08:47 > Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Emne: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve > discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - > given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a > good quality audio stream. > And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. > Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder > why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage > devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other > device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas > this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users > of a VR Stream. > Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my > advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the > VR Stream users to download . > Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. > >> On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: >> >> I love my Victor Stream. >> The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet >> radio stations. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >> Hamit Campos >> Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >> >> Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either >> didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. >> >> >> On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: >>> I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report >>> on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon >>> Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the >>> player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as >>> slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this >>> is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for >>> some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but >>> maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that >>> time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: >>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those >>>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi >>>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says >>>> that reception is poor. >>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that >>>> little package. >>>> Evan >>>> >>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan >>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on >>>> my purchase. >>>> >>>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in >>>> most respects. >>>> >>>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - >>>> having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, >>>> a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a >>>> small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for >>>> years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have >>
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The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range. Jamie -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. > On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: > > I love my Victor Stream. > The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet > radio stations. > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Hamit Campos > Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either > didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. > > > On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: >> I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report >> on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon >> Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the >> player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as >> slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this >> is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for >> some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but >> maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that >> time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: >>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those >>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi >>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says >>> that reception is poor. >>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that >>> little package. >>> Evan >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan >>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on >>> my purchase. >>> >>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in >>> most respects. >>> >>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - >>> having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, >>> a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a >>> small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for >>> years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have >>> Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. >>> >>> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have >>> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow >>> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check >>> for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up >>> to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. >>> >>> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream >>> box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so >>> forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions >>>
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Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream. And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker. Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download . Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that. > On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote: > > I love my Victor Stream. > The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet > radio stations. > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit > Campos > Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either > didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. > > > On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: >> I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report >> on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon >> Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player >> won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as >> some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this is just >> now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time >> now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I >> skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm >> not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: >>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those >>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi >>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says >>> that reception is poor. >>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little >>> package. >>> Evan >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan >>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my >>> purchase. >>> >>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in >>> most respects. >>> >>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having >>> already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an >>> annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden >>> hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 >>> about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a >>> product can't have everythint. >>> >>> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have >>> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow >>> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for >>> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, >>> well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. >>> >>> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box >>> and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - >>> I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that >>> sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great >>> entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. >>> >>> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I >>> downlaoded a couple of books. >>> >>> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but >>> the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I >>> read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to >>> know I have a reliable backup. >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
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I didn't know Samsung makes memory cards though? Cool. On 5/2/2017 6:09 PM, Kenny wrote: Try looking up Pny, Samsung and SanDisk SD cards on Amazon.com. Purchased mines during a Black Friday sale on Amazon. At 05:37 PM 5/2/2017, you wrote: Dude where did ya get a 256 GB SD card? The VRS allowed it too? That's epic! On 5/2/2017 5:33 PM, Kenny wrote: WOW! I've owned a VRS 2nd gen for over 4 years and it's my most used piece of equipment in my home. Having my favorite OTR stations bookmarked as Favorites along with several other Live audio streams like CNN, this thing is en valuable to me. Listen to my local newspaper and favorite print publications via NFB Newsline every single day on my VRS. Nothing like having the Samantha voice read to you aloud the morning news or something from Reader's Digest, Popular Science or WebMD the Magazine. Have download some nice ebooks from my Bookshare account to my VRS so Samantha can read me a nice bedtime story every night. I have my VRS plugged via 3.5" jack directly into my MagicBox mini Bluetooth speaker and it sounds great. If I carry it around, I have some headphones plugged up in it and it sound still great. Rarely do I listen to it with the internal speaker. Even have downloaded some DV (Described Video) content to a 256 GB SD card inserted to my VRS to have even more entertainment at my fingertips 24/7. With the recent v4.83 upgrade, the automatic clock sync works fantastic now. My Stream humgs like a fine tuned car. The sluggishness you experienced with it maybe more related to your network, not the VRS? The only 2 things I would want to change is to give it Bluetooth connectivity and more internal storage. Other than that it's my favorite hardware audio player. At 08:32 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote: Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though I've had it for only 24 hours. I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient device to use - but it doesn't suit me. I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected to the Internet. Anyway now I know . On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't both
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Dude where did ya get a 256 GB SD card? The VRS allowed it too? That's epic! On 5/2/2017 5:33 PM, Kenny wrote: WOW! I've owned a VRS 2nd gen for over 4 years and it's my most used piece of equipment in my home. Having my favorite OTR stations bookmarked as Favorites along with several other Live audio streams like CNN, this thing is en valuable to me. Listen to my local newspaper and favorite print publications via NFB Newsline every single day on my VRS. Nothing like having the Samantha voice read to you aloud the morning news or something from Reader's Digest, Popular Science or WebMD the Magazine. Have download some nice ebooks from my Bookshare account to my VRS so Samantha can read me a nice bedtime story every night. I have my VRS plugged via 3.5" jack directly into my MagicBox mini Bluetooth speaker and it sounds great. If I carry it around, I have some headphones plugged up in it and it sound still great. Rarely do I listen to it with the internal speaker. Even have downloaded some DV (Described Video) content to a 256 GB SD card inserted to my VRS to have even more entertainment at my fingertips 24/7. With the recent v4.83 upgrade, the automatic clock sync works fantastic now. My Stream humgs like a fine tuned car. The sluggishness you experienced with it maybe more related to your network, not the VRS? The only 2 things I would want to change is to give it Bluetooth connectivity and more internal storage. Other than that it's my favorite hardware audio player. At 08:32 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote: Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though I've had it for only 24 hours. I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient device to use - but it doesn't suit me. I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected to the Internet. Anyway now I know . On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so
Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
WOW! I've owned a VRS 2nd gen for over 4 years and it's my most used piece of equipment in my home. Having my favorite OTR stations bookmarked as Favorites along with several other Live audio streams like CNN, this thing is en valuable to me. Listen to my local newspaper and favorite print publications via NFB Newsline every single day on my VRS. Nothing like having the Samantha voice read to you aloud the morning news or something from Reader's Digest, Popular Science or WebMD the Magazine. Have download some nice ebooks from my Bookshare account to my VRS so Samantha can read me a nice bedtime story every night. I have my VRS plugged via 3.5" jack directly into my MagicBox mini Bluetooth speaker and it sounds great. If I carry it around, I have some headphones plugged up in it and it sound still great. Rarely do I listen to it with the internal speaker. Even have downloaded some DV (Described Video) content to a 256 GB SD card inserted to my VRS to have even more entertainment at my fingertips 24/7. With the recent v4.83 upgrade, the automatic clock sync works fantastic now. My Stream humgs like a fine tuned car. The sluggishness you experienced with it maybe more related to your network, not the VRS? The only 2 things I would want to change is to give it Bluetooth connectivity and more internal storage. Other than that it's my favorite hardware audio player. At 08:32 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote: Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though I've had it for only 24 hours. I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient device to use - but it doesn't suit me. I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected to the Internet. Anyway now I know . On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is conveni
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Hi Gera, You can lurk as long as you want. (smile) Laz On 5/2/17, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com> wrote: > And do you have to buy or sale something to be on, or could I just go on > and see if I someday find an interesting item I'd like to buy or sale? > El 02/05/2017 a las 10:18 a.m., Laz escribió: >> Send a blank message to blind-bst+subscr...@groups.io >> >> It has over 450 members and going strong. >> >> Laz >> >> On 5/1/17, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, >>> anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for >>> Blind devices? >>> >>> >>> On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>> Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though >>>> I've had it for only 24 hours. >>>> >>>> I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient >>>> device to use - but it doesn't suit me. >>>> >>>> I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know >>>> exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really >>>> like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of >>>> that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected >>>> to the Internet. >>>> >>>> Anyway now I know . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: >>>>> I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being >>>>> "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a >>>>> 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set >>>>> of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going >>>>> to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external >>>>> speaker or headphones! >>>>> Tom Kaufman >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM >>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>>>> >>>>> I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for >>>>> audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then >>>>> again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. >>>>> >>>>> The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as >>>>> playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality >>>>> of >>>>> audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: >>>>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those >>>>>> of >>>>>> some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver >>>>>> in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that >>>>>> reception is poor. >>>>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little >>>>>> package. >>>>>> Evan >>>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan >>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM >>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> >>>>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my >>>>>> purchase. >>>>>> >>>>>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in >>>>>> most respects. >>>>>> >>>>>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - >>>>>> having >>>>>> already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit >>>>>> of an >>>>>> annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden >>>>>> hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 >>>>>> about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bl
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And do you have to buy or sale something to be on, or could I just go on and see if I someday find an interesting item I'd like to buy or sale? El 02/05/2017 a las 10:18 a.m., Laz escribió: Send a blank message to blind-bst+subscr...@groups.io It has over 450 members and going strong. Laz On 5/1/17, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for Blind devices? On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though I've had it for only 24 hours. I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient device to use - but it doesn't suit me. I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected to the Internet. Anyway now I know . On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- Gera Enviado desde Thunderbird
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Ah okay, thanks. On 5/2/2017 11:18 AM, Laz wrote: Send a blank message to blind-bst+subscr...@groups.io It has over 450 members and going strong. Laz On 5/1/17, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for Blind devices? On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though I've had it for only 24 hours. I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient device to use - but it doesn't suit me. I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected to the Internet. Anyway now I know . On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Send a blank message to blind-bst+subscr...@groups.io It has over 450 members and going strong. Laz On 5/1/17, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, > anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for > Blind devices? > > > On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though >> I've had it for only 24 hours. >> >> I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient >> device to use - but it doesn't suit me. >> >> I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know >> exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really >> like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of >> that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected >> to the Internet. >> >> Anyway now I know . >> >> >> >> On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: >>> I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being >>> "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a >>> 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set >>> of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going >>> to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external >>> speaker or headphones! >>> Tom Kaufman >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>> Dane Trethowan >>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>> >>> I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for >>> audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then >>> again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. >>> >>> The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as >>> playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of >>> audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: >>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of >>>> some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver >>>> in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that >>>> reception is poor. >>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little >>>> package. >>>> Evan >>>> >>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan >>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>>> >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my >>>> purchase. >>>> >>>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in >>>> most respects. >>>> >>>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - >>>> having >>>> already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit >>>> of an >>>> annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden >>>> hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 >>>> about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a >>>> product can't have everythint. >>>> >>>> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have >>>> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow >>>> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for >>>> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, >>>> well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. >>>> >>>> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box >>>> and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - >>>> I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that >>>> sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great >>>> entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. >>>> >>>> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I >>>> downlaoded a couple of books. >>>> >>>> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but >>>> the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I >>>> read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its >>>> good to >>>> know I have a reliable backup. >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > -- Affordably priced Accessible Talking MP3 Players, Accessible phones, Bluetooth devices, and accessories http://www.talkingmp3players.com/ Email: l...@talkingmp3players.com Phone: 727-498-0121 Skype: lazmesa Personal Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/laz.mesa Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Talkingmp3players?_rdr
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Ah okay. On 5/2/2017 10:16 AM, john schwery wrote: Hamit, I'm not sure. BSt is mostly American. At 10:02 AM 5/2/2017, you wrote: Are these UK lists though? Cause the Roil Post sounds like a UK thing. On 5/2/2017 6:58 AM, john schwery wrote: Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post. Both are for buying, selling and trading. At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote: Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for Blind devices? On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though I've had it for only 24 hours. I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient device to use - but it doesn't suit me. I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected to the Internet. Anyway now I know . On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus John John
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Hamit, I'm not sure. BSt is mostly American. At 10:02 AM 5/2/2017, you wrote: Are these UK lists though? Cause the Roil Post sounds like a UK thing. On 5/2/2017 6:58 AM, john schwery wrote: Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post. Both are for buying, selling and trading. At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote: Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for Blind devices? On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though I've had it for only 24 hours. I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient device to use - but it doesn't suit me. I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected to the Internet. Anyway now I know . On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus John John
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And that'ts the point. On an iPhone etc its very enjoyable to listen to music from that internal speaker - no not excellent quality - but far better than it used to be. On 2/05/2017 8:12 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: Hi Dane, Agree totally. It's usable for speech, but hopeless when it comes to music. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 2. maj 2017 08:31 Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Emne: Re: SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Indeed it was bad and at the very least the 2ND generation is quite an improvement but not as good as it really ought to be compared to other stuff out there, even the basic phones have very nice sounding internal speakers. On 2/05/2017 4:20 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: Hi. Wow then you should have heard the first generation. Grin It was really really bad! Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Tom Kaufman Sendt: 2. maj 2017 01:29 Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. -- ** "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were going to live forever"
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Are these UK lists though? Cause the Roil Post sounds like a UK thing. On 5/2/2017 6:58 AM, john schwery wrote: Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post. Both are for buying, selling and trading. At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote: Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for Blind devices? On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though I've had it for only 24 hours. I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient device to use - but it doesn't suit me. I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected to the Internet. Anyway now I know . On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus John
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Ah cool. Thanks. On 5/2/2017 6:58 AM, john schwery wrote: Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post. Both are for buying, selling and trading. At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote: Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for Blind devices? On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though I've had it for only 24 hours. I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient device to use - but it doesn't suit me. I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected to the Internet. Anyway now I know . On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus John
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Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post. Both are for buying, selling and trading. At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote: Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for Blind devices? On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though I've had it for only 24 hours. I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient device to use - but it doesn't suit me. I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected to the Internet. Anyway now I know . On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus John
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Hi Dane, Agree totally. It's usable for speech, but hopeless when it comes to music. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 2. maj 2017 08:31 Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Emne: Re: SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Indeed it was bad and at the very least the 2ND generation is quite an improvement but not as good as it really ought to be compared to other stuff out there, even the basic phones have very nice sounding internal speakers. On 2/05/2017 4:20 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: > Hi. > Wow then you should have heard the first generation. Grin It was > really really bad! > > Brian > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Tom > Kaufman > Sendt: 2. maj 2017 01:29 > Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having > said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you > plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty > good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd > much prefer an external speaker or headphones! > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Dane Trethowan > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, > all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio > has always been a problem with the Stream. > > The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - > is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the > headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. > > > > On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: >> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those >> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi >> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says >> that reception is poor. >> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little >> package. >> Evan >> >> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan >> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >> >> Hi! >> >> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my >> purchase. >> >> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in >> most respects. >> >> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - >> having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a >> bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small >> BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost >> me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but >> I guess a product can't have everythint. >> >> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have >> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow >> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for >> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to >> date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. >> >> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream >> box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so >> forth >> - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for >> that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a >> great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. >> >> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I >> downlaoded a couple of books. >> >> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself >> but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even >> though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site >> its good to know I have a reliable backup. >> >> >> -- ** "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were going to live forever"
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Indeed it was bad and at the very least the 2ND generation is quite an improvement but not as good as it really ought to be compared to other stuff out there, even the basic phones have very nice sounding internal speakers. On 2/05/2017 4:20 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: Hi. Wow then you should have heard the first generation. Grin It was really really bad! Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Tom Kaufman Sendt: 2. maj 2017 01:29 Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. -- ** "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were going to live forever"
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Hi. Wow then you should have heard the first generation. Grin It was really really bad! Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Tom Kaufman Sendt: 2. maj 2017 01:29 Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: > As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of > some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver > in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that > reception is poor. > Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little > package. > Evan > > -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > Hi! > > I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my > purchase. > > Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in > most respects. > > The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - > having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a > bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small > BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost > me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I > guess a product can't have everythint. > > Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have > noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow > compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for > Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to > date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. > > There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box > and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth > - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for > that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a > great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. > > Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I > downlaoded a couple of books. > > Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but > the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though > I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its > good to know I have a reliable backup. > > > -- ** "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were going to live forever"
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Yeah like I said the 1 thing I give the victors is the fact that they play a whole bunch of formats. But what's the point of it being able to play FLAC for instance if the speaker ain't hi fy enough nor are the headphone pres? Meh maybe I'm just too spoiled by Bose. Cause when I brought out my PTR1 just for fun last summer it was kinda meh to my ears. But The Victors are still more meh to me. Saddly even the Strattus that I have. I've not heard the Stream 2. So who really knows about that 1. But for books maybe they're okay. On 5/1/2017 11:41 PM, JOHN RIEHL wrote: I have the Victor Stream 2nd gen; this is my third. For what I use it for -- reading books -- it's great! I can create .mp3 files of books using K1000 or download talking books or audible books. I don't use the wireless feature. You can connect an external speaker using a patch cord; it works great! I use the In-motion speaker; I have my Victor connected to it. I also use headphones or the little internal speaker. It isn't perfect; I'd love for it to have Bluetooth. But I'm quite happy with my Stream. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yeah the audio is kinda meh. You're right Dain. An IOS device and or especially a samsung device do sound better. Ah I can hear the apple fans now. How dare you? Did you just dare with a streight face tell me a samsung device sounds loads better than an IPhone? Yeah I did. Kinda off this topic but I noted the difference with my nephew Jonathan's note phone. Now the quality thing. Could thhis be cause it's for DAISY books for the most part? But I'm not sure about that cause Plextalk is better. The PTP1 sounded better to me when I saw them at the NFB national convention in 2013. I was also shocked that the PTP1 aka the Plextalk pocket looks so much like it's a mini PTR1. But then to get back to the topic at hand well at the time at least the streem 1 was such a prediction of the Strattus players. How does the Streem do connected to an external speaker though? To me the headphone pres of the strattus and the Clasic ain't that good.They too are meh. Exeptable I suppose but meh not hi fy. On 5/1/2017 8:09 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: If you have nothing to compare the speaker of the VR Stream to then yep its probably very good audio however I have plenty of devices around my house - roughly the same size - which I can compare the Stream to and - given that - I can tell you that audio from the internal speaker of the Stream is not good, is muffled and should be - in my view - better than it is given other basic devices are these days. You mention listening to music through headphones etc and you're quite right as you get the full benefit of better audio however I do invite you - if you haven't already done so - to listen to music through the internal speaker of say an iPhone 6S or a Samsung Galaxy S6 and you'll soon hear a huge difference. Again no, not an ideal listening environment but its certainly a vast improvement on what the Stream gives you and through a smaller speaker. I will say however that the audio from the second generation of stream is quite an improvement upon that of the first generation. On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to ma
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I have the Victor Stream 2nd gen; this is my third. For what I use it for -- reading books -- it's great! I can create .mp3 files of books using K1000 or download talking books or audible books. I don't use the wireless feature. You can connect an external speaker using a patch cord; it works great! I use the In-motion speaker; I have my Victor connected to it. I also use headphones or the little internal speaker. It isn't perfect; I'd love for it to have Bluetooth. But I'm quite happy with my Stream. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 11:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yeah the audio is kinda meh. You're right Dain. An IOS device and or especially a samsung device do sound better. Ah I can hear the apple fans now. How dare you? Did you just dare with a streight face tell me a samsung device sounds loads better than an IPhone? Yeah I did. Kinda off this topic but I noted the difference with my nephew Jonathan's note phone. Now the quality thing. Could thhis be cause it's for DAISY books for the most part? But I'm not sure about that cause Plextalk is better. The PTP1 sounded better to me when I saw them at the NFB national convention in 2013. I was also shocked that the PTP1 aka the Plextalk pocket looks so much like it's a mini PTR1. But then to get back to the topic at hand well at the time at least the streem 1 was such a prediction of the Strattus players. How does the Streem do connected to an external speaker though? To me the headphone pres of the strattus and the Clasic ain't that good.They too are meh. Exeptable I suppose but meh not hi fy. On 5/1/2017 8:09 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > If you have nothing to compare the speaker of the VR Stream to then > yep its probably very good audio however I have plenty of devices > around my house - roughly the same size - which I can compare the > Stream to and - given that - I can tell you that audio from the > internal speaker of the Stream is not good, is muffled and should be - > in my view - better than it is given other basic devices are these days. > > You mention listening to music through headphones etc and you're quite > right as you get the full benefit of better audio however I do invite > you - if you haven't already done so - to listen to music through the > internal speaker of say an iPhone 6S or a Samsung Galaxy S6 and you'll > soon hear a huge difference. > > Again no, not an ideal listening environment but its certainly a vast > improvement on what the Stream gives you and through a smaller speaker. > > I will say however that the audio from the second generation of stream > is quite an improvement upon that of the first generation. > > > > On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: >> I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being >> "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a >> 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set >> of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going >> to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external >> speaker or headphones! >> Tom Kaufman >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >> Dane Trethowan >> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >> >> I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for >> audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then >> again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. >> >> The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as >> playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of >> audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. >> >> >> >> On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: >>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of >>> some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver >>> in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that >>> reception is poor. >>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little >>> package. >>> Evan >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan >>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on
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Yeah that's another point. Why would you listen to music with that 1 mono speaker anyways? I'd use ear buds at least. Just cause music is stereo. On 5/1/2017 7:28 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Yeah the audio is kinda meh. You're right Dain. An IOS device and or especially a samsung device do sound better. Ah I can hear the apple fans now. How dare you? Did you just dare with a streight face tell me a samsung device sounds loads better than an IPhone? Yeah I did. Kinda off this topic but I noted the difference with my nephew Jonathan's note phone. Now the quality thing. Could thhis be cause it's for DAISY books for the most part? But I'm not sure about that cause Plextalk is better. The PTP1 sounded better to me when I saw them at the NFB national convention in 2013. I was also shocked that the PTP1 aka the Plextalk pocket looks so much like it's a mini PTR1. But then to get back to the topic at hand well at the time at least the streem 1 was such a prediction of the Strattus players. How does the Streem do connected to an external speaker though? To me the headphone pres of the strattus and the Clasic ain't that good.They too are meh. Exeptable I suppose but meh not hi fy. On 5/1/2017 8:09 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: If you have nothing to compare the speaker of the VR Stream to then yep its probably very good audio however I have plenty of devices around my house - roughly the same size - which I can compare the Stream to and - given that - I can tell you that audio from the internal speaker of the Stream is not good, is muffled and should be - in my view - better than it is given other basic devices are these days. You mention listening to music through headphones etc and you're quite right as you get the full benefit of better audio however I do invite you - if you haven't already done so - to listen to music through the internal speaker of say an iPhone 6S or a Samsung Galaxy S6 and you'll soon hear a huge difference. Again no, not an ideal listening environment but its certainly a vast improvement on what the Stream gives you and through a smaller speaker. I will say however that the audio from the second generation of stream is quite an improvement upon that of the first generation. On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again
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Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for Blind devices? On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though I've had it for only 24 hours. I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient device to use - but it doesn't suit me. I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected to the Internet. Anyway now I know . On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though I've had it for only 24 hours. I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient device to use - but it doesn't suit me. I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected to the Internet. Anyway now I know . On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. -- ** "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were going to live forever"
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If you have nothing to compare the speaker of the VR Stream to then yep its probably very good audio however I have plenty of devices around my house - roughly the same size - which I can compare the Stream to and - given that - I can tell you that audio from the internal speaker of the Stream is not good, is muffled and should be - in my view - better than it is given other basic devices are these days. You mention listening to music through headphones etc and you're quite right as you get the full benefit of better audio however I do invite you - if you haven't already done so - to listen to music through the internal speaker of say an iPhone 6S or a Samsung Galaxy S6 and you'll soon hear a huge difference. Again no, not an ideal listening environment but its certainly a vast improvement on what the Stream gives you and through a smaller speaker. I will say however that the audio from the second generation of stream is quite an improvement upon that of the first generation. On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote: I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. -- ** "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were going to live forever"
RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound! But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external speaker or headphones! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: > As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of > some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver > in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that > reception is poor. > Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little > package. > Evan > > -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation > > Hi! > > I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my > purchase. > > Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in > most respects. > > The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having > already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an > annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden > hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 > about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a > product can't have everythint. > > Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have > noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow > compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for > Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, > well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. > > There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box > and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - > I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that > sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great > entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. > > Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I > downlaoded a couple of books. > > Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but > the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I > read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to > know I have a reliable backup. > > > -- ** "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were going to live forever"
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Hi! I've replaced the subject line as it appears to have been stripped from your eMail. Yes, I know you can purchase a Bluetooth dongle and thanks for pointing that out but in these days of technology? Well you shouldn't have to be buying anything extra like that, tell me of a mobile phone or music player today where one has to buy a Bluetooth dongle? At this rate we may as well have manufacturers stop making Bluetooth headphones and just making Bluetooth dongles. On 2/05/2017 6:08 AM, John Heath via Pc-audio wrote: -- ** "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were going to live forever"
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Couple of points here. If you don't have devices working simultaneously on your network then its hard to draw comparisons with the Stream, I mean if its the only device you have then you're probably over the moon that the Stream can download anything at all! As for your super fast network? Well I sincerely hope you didn't just purchase this for the benefit of your Victor Reader Stream because - if you did - then you certainly will require a reality check ., I have download speeds here of around 11.5MB per second and there's absolutely no way the Stream would even take advantage of 10% of that bandwidth capacity. On 2/05/2017 2:59 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. -- ** "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were going to live forever"
Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has always been a problem with the Stream. The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable. On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. -- ** "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were going to live forever"
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Hi, Agree. -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Peter Scanlon Sendt: 1. maj 2017 20:35 Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation I love my Victor Stream. The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet radio stations. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: > I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report > on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon > Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player > won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as > some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this is just > now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time > now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I > skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm > not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. > > > > > > > On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: >> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those >> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi >> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says >> that reception is poor. >> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little >> package. >> Evan >> >> -Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan >> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >> >> Hi! >> >> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my >> purchase. >> >> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in >> most respects. >> >> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having >> already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an >> annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden >> hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 >> about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a >> product can't have everythint. >> >> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have >> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow >> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for >> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, >> well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. >> >> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box >> and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - >> I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that >> sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great >> entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. >> >> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I >> downlaoded a couple of books. >> >> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but >> the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I >> read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to >> know I have a reliable backup. >> >> >> > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I love my Victor Stream. The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet radio stations. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: > I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report > on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon > Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player > won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as > some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this is just > now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time > now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I > skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm > not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. > > > > > > > On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: >> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those >> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi >> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says >> that reception is poor. >> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little >> package. >> Evan >> >> -Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan >> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation >> >> Hi! >> >> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my >> purchase. >> >> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in >> most respects. >> >> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having >> already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an >> annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden >> hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 >> about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a >> product can't have everythint. >> >> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have >> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow >> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for >> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, >> well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. >> >> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box >> and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - >> I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that >> sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great >> entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. >> >> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I >> downlaoded a couple of books. >> >> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but >> the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I >> read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to >> know I have a reliable backup. >> >> >> > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it. On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote: I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report on it when i get it. I have a super-fast connection with Verizon Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences. On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote: As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup.
Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor. Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little package. Evan -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. -- ** "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were going to live forever"
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What unets are these you say have better WIFI then the Streem 2? On 5/1/2017 11:24 AM, Brian Olesen wrote: Hi, Oh no it doesnt. I bet they don't wanna host the intire world's streaming load. Smile And some libraries have a super bad transfer speed. Like the Danish one. Grin But to be honest this baby now is quite some years old, so what can we expect? But it reports bad connection quality, where all other units shows lots of signal. Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Gary Schindler Sendt: 1. maj 2017 16:44 Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Emne: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation In addition to what you said about the slow download speed of the Victor stream second generation, I feel that the chip for the wireless receiver could be more sensitive. Another thing I believe is that the internet streams seem to go through a server controlled by Humanware for the most part. If there is a problem for some reason with there server, the machine locks up even though you are connected to your router. that being said, it seems to be the best all around device in it's class for the money! -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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That is the yick thing for me with Blind devices. They don't make them truely powerfull. Well I'm more a plextalk guy then Victor. So I've always had bones with them. In 06 when they made the PTR2 they didn't do loads of things that would've made it epic. For starters the USB 1.1 thingy. Dude USB 2 was a thing in 2006 was it not? Also the CF card thing. Dude really only 6 GB? Get rid of that limit homies. Now as I was bairly getting into the geeky stuff about computers I don't know how hi Compact Flash cards went then. Believe it or not, the PTR2 is still sold to this day just like that. Not sure how the Pocket is as I've not messed with it. I do have a Strattus 12M as we were origenally talking Victors. Meh it's what it is. I will giv it this though it can play the FS JAWS DVDs. Oh and Victors also play the ITunes N4A format. Which is another bone to pick with Plextalk. I like them more. Plextalks sound clearer to me. The speakers always seemed to have better frequency responce. Sure now they are kinda ick to me now that I've been spoiled with Bose quality. lol On 5/1/2017 11:25 AM, Aidan wrote: Yes but that shouldn't be an excuse. These companies must wake up. I no of a manufacture who does allot better in hardware and wich players wifi is much stronger. Soon it will be able to record internet radio and its much cheaper. Also humanware is very slow to update, fix bugs, and new features. All new promts are now spoken by heather, though they claim the stream is one of the players with human speech, well these days they may just as well remove the human voice altogether, since they don't seem to want to change these promts to speak with it any longer. On 01/05/2017, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote: Ah! well you've probably hit the nail right on the head when it comes to the download speed if everything goes through the Humanware server. Yep, the Wireless chip seems a little outdated but after all! we're talking all things Humanware and for the blind here aren't we . On 2/05/2017 12:43 AM, Gary Schindler wrote: In addition to what you said about the slow download speed of the Victor stream second generation, I feel that the chip for the wireless receiver could be more sensitive. Another thing I believe is that the internet streams seem to go through a server controlled by Humanware for the most part. If there is a problem for some reason with there server, the machine locks up even though you are connected to your router. that being said, it seems to be the best all around device in it's class for the money! -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. -- ** "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were going to live forever" --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Hi, Oh no it doesnt. I bet they don't wanna host the intire world's streaming load. Smile And some libraries have a super bad transfer speed. Like the Danish one. Grin But to be honest this baby now is quite some years old, so what can we expect? But it reports bad connection quality, where all other units shows lots of signal. Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Gary Schindler Sendt: 1. maj 2017 16:44 Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Emne: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation In addition to what you said about the slow download speed of the Victor stream second generation, I feel that the chip for the wireless receiver could be more sensitive. Another thing I believe is that the internet streams seem to go through a server controlled by Humanware for the most part. If there is a problem for some reason with there server, the machine locks up even though you are connected to your router. that being said, it seems to be the best all around device in it's class for the money! -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation Hi! I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase. Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most respects. The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint. Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess. There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting. Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a couple of books. Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a reliable backup. -- ** "Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were going to live forever"