Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-09 Thread Kenny

Well I can understand your point. Price is an issue when it comes to the VRS 2.

I'm just glad it has been around for my own 
personal entertainment needs. I keep it plugged 
up and on 24/7 wired up to my trusty Magic Box II 
mini speaker via the 3.5 jack. Hasn't let me down yet.


If another audio player does hit the market that 
offers similar accessibility functionality that 
rivals the VRS 2. And it has Bluetooth 
capability, 32 - 64 GB of internal storage and 
provides propriotory apps to use some parts of 
Twitter and Facebook I would pay a small fortune for it!


Hopefully Humanware or another company will 
improve on the VRS 2 in the very near future.


At 02:39 PM 5/8/2017, you wrote:

Kenni, It does not allow for online downloading of those books,
because its not mainly pushed to the US market and podcast need some
work, but what it can do, it can do very well. What is also the use of
having a player wich will alouw you to search data bases and download
bookshare and such but then they not always commited to the player? Or
they use bad hardware and make you pay fru your neck? This player is
3000 rand and not r7000 rand like the stream currently.

On 08/05/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What do you mean by report for them? Well obviously they won't do
> nothing about the PTR1 as it technically doesn't exist anymore. But yeah
> the PTR2 maybe. Thing is to get an updated list of cards. Cause the ones
> on the site are the 2006 ones.
>
>
> On 5/7/2017 3:58 AM, Aidan wrote:
>> Perhaps you should report for plextalk and see if they can help you
>> testing.
>>
>> On 06/05/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Who are Andre and Anthony? As for the PTR2 it is epic. I'm just saying
>>> that before 1 buys 1 cause you can still buy 1 if you wish. But before
>>> ya do so I think it's best to borrow 1 from a homy which is the gangsta
>>> word for friend and try some CF cards. See if it doesn't do like the
>>> PTR1. Or maybe it's mi PTR1 that has the issue. Cause like I said mine
>>> has rejected 3 CF cards in a row. That's something like 30 dolars down
>>> the John. I don't know why it's being so dam picky all of the sudden.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/6/2017 8:45 AM, Aidan wrote:
>>>> Andre, Anthony and his team cell them since last year.
>>>> Hamit, you so rite, I would love to try out the ptr2 and I think its
>>>> put together very well, but yes the hardware is a big show stopper,
>>>> and you will be better off with bookport dt from APH if you want to go
>>>> that root. I cannot compare drive of ptn2 with ptn1 as I did not
>>>> experience ptn1, but I think it will be better since one of the
>>>> firmware updates did address issues with the drive.
>>>>
>>>> On 06/05/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote:
>>>>> Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Aidan
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM
>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy
>>>>> hardware
>>>>> and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree
>>>>> that
>>>>> PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is
>>>>> really
>>>>> not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like
>>>>> the
>>>>> 212
>>>>> as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more
>>>>> in
>>>>> a
>>>>> package.
>>>>> I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
>>>>> I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update
>>>>> it
>>>>> more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now
>>>>> is
>>>>> the
>>>>> evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really
>>>>> do
>>>>> great work.
>>>>> The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general
>>>>> is
>>>>> very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things
>>>>> with
>>>>> the up, down, left and w

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-08 Thread Kenny
I have no idea. Believe it's listed on the 
description page as one of its destinctive features though.


At 07:04 PM 5/7/2017, you wrote:
Ah the compas would come in verry handy. Just so 
as 1 knows which way is waht. The caluclator 
too. I use the 1 in my PTR1 here and there. But what is a calcugraph?



On 5/7/2017 1:31 PM, Kenny wrote:

Let me ask you a question about this Evo E10 Daisy Digital Recorder/Player:

Does it offer integrated functionality to search OOTunes and Wikipedia?

Does it allow you to save any audio stream you 
do like as Favorites for quick access?


Does it allow you to access your NFB and 
Bookshare content from within the player?


Does it allow you to use the beautiful Samantha TTS voice?

I mean having a compass, calculator and 
calcugraph sounds great for someone in school, 
but how many casual users would ever use these features?


Just want to know more about this EVO E10 from someone who owns it.

Do love the fact it comes with 8 GB of internal memory though.

At 01:39 PM 5/5/2017, you wrote:

Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy
hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I
agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream
wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I
think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I
have enough players with more in a package.
I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update
it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot
now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but
they really do great work.
The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general
is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most
things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the
most features of all.
Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon
will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms,
voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2)
The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces
or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice
thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it
louder to record better.
Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used
are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15
minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and
compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for
copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and
uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds
to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a
large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You
can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of
different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio,
e-books and daisy.

On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote:
> The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8
> hours, now.  I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue.
>
> At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:
>>I read quite a lot and while at home, in my
>>opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its
>>good sound, long-lasting battery, although the
>>battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly
>>degrades to about 16 with prolonged use.  The
>>Iphone of course, is also excellent for
>>listening to BARD books, but with so many other
>>apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data,
>>plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer
>>to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.
>>
>>The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack
>>horses, when you take into consideration that
>>when travelling, I normally take my Iphone,
>>Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.
>>
>>Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS
>>players could solve the battery-life issue plus
>>add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone could
>>add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM
>>radio, for now it uses the wire of the
>>headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be 
able to save the text it scans,

>> etc.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Humberto
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pc-audio
>>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
>>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
>>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>>Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
>>better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never
&

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-08 Thread Aidan
Kenni, It does not allow for online downloading of those books,
because its not mainly pushed to the US market and podcast need some
work, but what it can do, it can do very well. What is also the use of
having a player wich will alouw you to search data bases and download
bookshare and such but then they not always commited to the player? Or
they use bad hardware and make you pay fru your neck? This player is
3000 rand and not r7000 rand like the stream currently.

On 08/05/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What do you mean by report for them? Well obviously they won't do
> nothing about the PTR1 as it technically doesn't exist anymore. But yeah
> the PTR2 maybe. Thing is to get an updated list of cards. Cause the ones
> on the site are the 2006 ones.
>
>
> On 5/7/2017 3:58 AM, Aidan wrote:
>> Perhaps you should report for plextalk and see if they can help you
>> testing.
>>
>> On 06/05/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Who are Andre and Anthony? As for the PTR2 it is epic. I'm just saying
>>> that before 1 buys 1 cause you can still buy 1 if you wish. But before
>>> ya do so I think it's best to borrow 1 from a homy which is the gangsta
>>> word for friend and try some CF cards. See if it doesn't do like the
>>> PTR1. Or maybe it's mi PTR1 that has the issue. Cause like I said mine
>>> has rejected 3 CF cards in a row. That's something like 30 dolars down
>>> the John. I don't know why it's being so dam picky all of the sudden.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/6/2017 8:45 AM, Aidan wrote:
>>>> Andre, Anthony and his team cell them since last year.
>>>> Hamit, you so rite, I would love to try out the ptr2 and I think its
>>>> put together very well, but yes the hardware is a big show stopper,
>>>> and you will be better off with bookport dt from APH if you want to go
>>>> that root. I cannot compare drive of ptn2 with ptn1 as I did not
>>>> experience ptn1, but I think it will be better since one of the
>>>> firmware updates did address issues with the drive.
>>>>
>>>> On 06/05/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote:
>>>>> Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Aidan
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM
>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy
>>>>> hardware
>>>>> and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree
>>>>> that
>>>>> PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is
>>>>> really
>>>>> not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like
>>>>> the
>>>>> 212
>>>>> as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more
>>>>> in
>>>>> a
>>>>> package.
>>>>> I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
>>>>> I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update
>>>>> it
>>>>> more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now
>>>>> is
>>>>> the
>>>>> evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really
>>>>> do
>>>>> great work.
>>>>> The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general
>>>>> is
>>>>> very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things
>>>>> with
>>>>> the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features
>>>>> of
>>>>> all.
>>>>> Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon
>>>>> will
>>>>> hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice
>>>>> memos,
>>>>> voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is
>>>>> actually
>>>>> so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to
>>>>> set
>>>>> recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if
>>>>> something
>>>>> is very sof

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-07 Thread Hamit Campos
What do you mean by report for them? Well obviously they won't do 
nothing about the PTR1 as it technically doesn't exist anymore. But yeah 
the PTR2 maybe. Thing is to get an updated list of cards. Cause the ones 
on the site are the 2006 ones.



On 5/7/2017 3:58 AM, Aidan wrote:

Perhaps you should report for plextalk and see if they can help you testing.

On 06/05/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Who are Andre and Anthony? As for the PTR2 it is epic. I'm just saying
that before 1 buys 1 cause you can still buy 1 if you wish. But before
ya do so I think it's best to borrow 1 from a homy which is the gangsta
word for friend and try some CF cards. See if it doesn't do like the
PTR1. Or maybe it's mi PTR1 that has the issue. Cause like I said mine
has rejected 3 CF cards in a row. That's something like 30 dolars down
the John. I don't know why it's being so dam picky all of the sudden.


On 5/6/2017 8:45 AM, Aidan wrote:

Andre, Anthony and his team cell them since last year.
Hamit, you so rite, I would love to try out the ptr2 and I think its
put together very well, but yes the hardware is a big show stopper,
and you will be better off with bookport dt from APH if you want to go
that root. I cannot compare drive of ptn2 with ptn1 as I did not
experience ptn1, but I think it will be better since one of the
firmware updates did address issues with the drive.

On 06/05/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote:

Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired?



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan
Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy
hardware
and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that
PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is
really
not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the
212
as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in
a
package.
I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update
it
more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is
the
evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do
great work.
The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general
is
very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things
with
the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of
all.
Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon
will
hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice
memos,
voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is
actually
so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to
set
recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if
something
is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better.
Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used
are
there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits.
It
uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks,
and
customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files.
It
have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely
stable
firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for
updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound
louder
than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback
position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable
audio,
e-books and daisy.

On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote:

The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 hours, now.  I don't
know why they can't solve the battery life issue.

At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:

I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the
NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the
battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16
with prolonged use.  The Iphone of course, is also excellent for
listening to BARD books, but with so many other apps on the Iphone and
now with unlimited data, plus texting and the telephone itself, I
prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.

The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack horses, when you take
into consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone,
Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.

Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS players could solve
the battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone
could add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it
uses the wire of the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able
to save the text it scans,  etc.

Regards,

Humber

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-07 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah the compas would come in verry handy. Just so as 1 knows which way is 
waht. The caluclator too. I use the 1 in my PTR1 here and there. But 
what is a calcugraph?



On 5/7/2017 1:31 PM, Kenny wrote:
Let me ask you a question about this Evo E10 Daisy Digital 
Recorder/Player:


Does it offer integrated functionality to search OOTunes and Wikipedia?

Does it allow you to save any audio stream you do like as Favorites 
for quick access?


Does it allow you to access your NFB and Bookshare content from within 
the player?


Does it allow you to use the beautiful Samantha TTS voice?

I mean having a compass, calculator and calcugraph sounds great for 
someone in school, but how many casual users would ever use these 
features?


Just want to know more about this EVO E10 from someone who owns it.

Do love the fact it comes with 8 GB of internal memory though.

At 01:39 PM 5/5/2017, you wrote:

Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy
hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I
agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream
wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I
think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I
have enough players with more in a package.
I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update
it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot
now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but
they really do great work.
The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general
is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most
things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the
most features of all.
Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon
will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms,
voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2)
The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces
or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice
thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it
louder to record better.
Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used
are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15
minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and
compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for
copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and
uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds
to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a
large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You
can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of
different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio,
e-books and daisy.

On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote:
> The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8
> hours, now.  I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue.
>
> At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:
>>I read quite a lot and while at home, in my
>>opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its
>>good sound, long-lasting battery, although the
>>battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly
>>degrades to about 16 with prolonged use.  The
>>Iphone of course, is also excellent for
>>listening to BARD books, but with so many other
>>apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data,
>>plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer
>>to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.
>>
>>The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack
>>horses, when you take into consideration that
>>when travelling, I normally take my Iphone,
>>Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.
>>
>>Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS
>>players could solve the battery-life issue plus
>>add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone could
>>add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM
>>radio, for now it uses the wire of the
>>headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it 
scans,

>> etc.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Humberto
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pc-audio
>>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
>>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
>>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>>Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
>>better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never
>>seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS
>>player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use i

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-07 Thread Kenny

Let me ask you a question about this Evo E10 Daisy Digital Recorder/Player:

Does it offer integrated functionality to search OOTunes and Wikipedia?

Does it allow you to save any audio stream you do 
like as Favorites for quick access?


Does it allow you to access your NFB and 
Bookshare content from within the player?


Does it allow you to use the beautiful Samantha TTS voice?

I mean having a compass, calculator and 
calcugraph sounds great for someone in school, 
but how many casual users would ever use these features?


Just want to know more about this EVO E10 from someone who owns it.

Do love the fact it comes with 8 GB of internal memory though.

At 01:39 PM 5/5/2017, you wrote:

Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy
hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I
agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream
wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I
think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I
have enough players with more in a package.
I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update
it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot
now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but
they really do great work.
The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general
is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most
things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the
most features of all.
Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon
will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms,
voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2)
The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces
or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice
thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it
louder to record better.
Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used
are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15
minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and
compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for
copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and
uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds
to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a
large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You
can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of
different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio,
e-books and daisy.

On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote:
> The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8
> hours, now.  I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue.
>
> At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:
>>I read quite a lot and while at home, in my
>>opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its
>>good sound, long-lasting battery, although the
>>battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly
>>degrades to about 16 with prolonged use.  The
>>Iphone of course, is also excellent for
>>listening to BARD books, but with so many other
>>apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data,
>>plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer
>>to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.
>>
>>The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack
>>horses, when you take into consideration that
>>when travelling, I normally take my Iphone,
>>Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.
>>
>>Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS
>>players could solve the battery-life issue plus
>>add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone could
>>add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM
>>radio, for now it uses the wire of the
>>headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans,
>> etc.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Humberto
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pc-audio
>>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
>>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
>>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>>Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
>>better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never
>>seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS
>>player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though.
>>What with the app being on my phone.
>>
>>
>>On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
>> > Hello Hamit:
>> >
>> > Yes,

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-07 Thread Aidan
Perhaps you should report for plextalk and see if they can help you testing.

On 06/05/2017, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Who are Andre and Anthony? As for the PTR2 it is epic. I'm just saying
> that before 1 buys 1 cause you can still buy 1 if you wish. But before
> ya do so I think it's best to borrow 1 from a homy which is the gangsta
> word for friend and try some CF cards. See if it doesn't do like the
> PTR1. Or maybe it's mi PTR1 that has the issue. Cause like I said mine
> has rejected 3 CF cards in a row. That's something like 30 dolars down
> the John. I don't know why it's being so dam picky all of the sudden.
>
>
> On 5/6/2017 8:45 AM, Aidan wrote:
>> Andre, Anthony and his team cell them since last year.
>> Hamit, you so rite, I would love to try out the ptr2 and I think its
>> put together very well, but yes the hardware is a big show stopper,
>> and you will be better off with bookport dt from APH if you want to go
>> that root. I cannot compare drive of ptn2 with ptn1 as I did not
>> experience ptn1, but I think it will be better since one of the
>> firmware updates did address issues with the drive.
>>
>> On 06/05/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote:
>>> Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan
>>> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>
>>> Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy
>>> hardware
>>> and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that
>>> PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is
>>> really
>>> not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the
>>> 212
>>> as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in
>>> a
>>> package.
>>> I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
>>> I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update
>>> it
>>> more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is
>>> the
>>> evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do
>>> great work.
>>> The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general
>>> is
>>> very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things
>>> with
>>> the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of
>>> all.
>>> Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon
>>> will
>>> hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice
>>> memos,
>>> voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is
>>> actually
>>> so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to
>>> set
>>> recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if
>>> something
>>> is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better.
>>> Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used
>>> are
>>> there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits.
>>> It
>>> uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks,
>>> and
>>> customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files.
>>> It
>>> have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely
>>> stable
>>> firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for
>>> updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound
>>> louder
>>> than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback
>>> position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable
>>> audio,
>>> e-books and daisy.
>>>
>>> On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>> The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 hours, now.  I don't
>>>> know why they can't solve the battery life issue.
>>>>
>>>> At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:
>>>>> I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the
>>>>> NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the
>>>>> battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degra

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-06 Thread Hamit Campos
Who are Andre and Anthony? As for the PTR2 it is epic. I'm just saying 
that before 1 buys 1 cause you can still buy 1 if you wish. But before 
ya do so I think it's best to borrow 1 from a homy which is the gangsta 
word for friend and try some CF cards. See if it doesn't do like the 
PTR1. Or maybe it's mi PTR1 that has the issue. Cause like I said mine 
has rejected 3 CF cards in a row. That's something like 30 dolars down 
the John. I don't know why it's being so dam picky all of the sudden.



On 5/6/2017 8:45 AM, Aidan wrote:

Andre, Anthony and his team cell them since last year.
Hamit, you so rite, I would love to try out the ptr2 and I think its
put together very well, but yes the hardware is a big show stopper,
and you will be better off with bookport dt from APH if you want to go
that root. I cannot compare drive of ptn2 with ptn1 as I did not
experience ptn1, but I think it will be better since one of the
firmware updates did address issues with the drive.

On 06/05/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote:

Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired?



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan
Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy hardware
and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that
PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is really
not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the 212
as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in a
package.
I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update it
more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is the
evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do
great work.
The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general is
very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things with
the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of
all.
Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon will
hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice memos,
voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is actually
so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to set
recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if something
is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better.
Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used are
there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits. It
uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks, and
customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files. It
have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable
firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for
updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder
than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback
position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio,
e-books and daisy.

On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote:

The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 hours, now.  I don't
know why they can't solve the battery life issue.

At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:

I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the
NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the
battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16
with prolonged use.  The Iphone of course, is also excellent for
listening to BARD books, but with so many other apps on the Iphone and
now with unlimited data, plus texting and the telephone itself, I
prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.

The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack horses, when you take
into consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone,
Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.

Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS players could solve
the battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone
could add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it
uses the wire of the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able
to save the text it scans,  etc.

Regards,

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never
seen 1 and wa

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-06 Thread Aidan
Andre, Anthony and his team cell them since last year.
Hamit, you so rite, I would love to try out the ptr2 and I think its
put together very well, but yes the hardware is a big show stopper,
and you will be better off with bookport dt from APH if you want to go
that root. I cannot compare drive of ptn2 with ptn1 as I did not
experience ptn1, but I think it will be better since one of the
firmware updates did address issues with the drive.

On 06/05/2017, André van Deventer <andred...@webafrica.org.za> wrote:
> Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan
> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy hardware
> and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that
> PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is really
> not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the 212
> as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in a
> package.
> I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
> I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update it
> more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is the
> evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do
> great work.
> The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general is
> very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things with
> the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of
> all.
> Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon will
> hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice memos,
> voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is actually
> so loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to set
> recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if something
> is very soft, then you can make it louder to record better.
> Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used are
> there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits. It
> uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks, and
> customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files. It
> have four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable
> firmware and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for
> updates online. It have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder
> than even ptp1. You can choose if you want it to remember the playback
> position of different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio,
> e-books and daisy.
>
> On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>> The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 hours, now.  I don't
>> know why they can't solve the battery life issue.
>>
>> At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:
>>>I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the
>>>NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the
>>>battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16
>>>with prolonged use.  The Iphone of course, is also excellent for
>>>listening to BARD books, but with so many other apps on the Iphone and
>>>now with unlimited data, plus texting and the telephone itself, I
>>>prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.
>>>
>>>The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack horses, when you take
>>>into consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone,
>>>Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.
>>>
>>>Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS players could solve
>>>the battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone
>>>could add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it
>>>uses the wire of the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able
>>>to save the text it scans,  etc.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Humberto
>>>
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Pc-audio
>>>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
>>>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
>>>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>
>>>Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
>>&g

RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-06 Thread André van Deventer
Now where will you get this little player since Neville retired?



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan
Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:39 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy hardware and 
then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I agree that PlexTalk 
do a much better job with hardware. The stream wifi chip is really not that 
good. I would love to get a milestone, I think I would like the 212 as it sfor 
voice and music mostly, as I have enough players with more in a package.
I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update it more, 
then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot now is the evo e 10 
from vin-vision. They a china baste company but they really do great work.
The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general is very 
good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most things with the up, 
down, left and write and enter, but it have the most features of all.
Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon will 
hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms, voice memos, 
voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2) The recorder is actually so 
loud when recording from external sorces or radio that you need to set 
recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice thing about it is that if something is 
very soft, then you can make it louder to record better.
Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used are 
there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15 minits. It 
uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and compus bookmarks, and 
customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for copying/moving/deleting files. It have 
four gig internal memory and uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware 
and take ten seconds to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It 
have a large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You can 
choose if you want it to remember the playback position of different content. 
Music, wich also include any playable audio, e-books and daisy.

On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote:
> The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 hours, now.  I don't 
> know why they can't solve the battery life issue.
>
> At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:
>>I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the 
>>NLS player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the 
>>battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16 
>>with prolonged use.  The Iphone of course, is also excellent for 
>>listening to BARD books, but with so many other apps on the Iphone and 
>>now with unlimited data, plus texting and the telephone itself, I 
>>prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.
>>
>>The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack horses, when you take 
>>into consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, 
>>Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.
>>
>>Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS players could solve 
>>the battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone 
>>could add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it 
>>uses the wire of the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able 
>>to save the text it scans,  etc.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Humberto
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pc-audio
>>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
>>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
>>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>>Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much 
>>better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never 
>>seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS 
>>player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though.
>>What with the app being on my phone.
>>
>>
>>On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
>> > Hello Hamit:
>> >
>> > Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent,
>> except as I said, that it does not have Wi-Fi.  I also have a VRS but 
>> one of the first generation.  I do not use the Milestone for 
>> recording except for emergencies, I have an Olympus DS-50 for that 
>> and I normally do not record stereo, mostly monoaural voice.
>> >
>> > The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with
>> a grill in front, rath

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-05 Thread Hamit Campos
Amen to that. Look at how plextalk's still selling the PTR2. Now maybe 
my PTR1's  jaded me. Whith how it's rejected 3 cards in a row. Three in 
a row dam it. I don't understand how people that bought the PTR2 from 08 
to today this verry day are getting buy. If anyone like this is here on 
list and wants to shed some light for me please let me know either here 
or off list. I'd really love to know how 1 justifies $995. I'm not 
bashing. Like you said at the start of your message I too wish they'd 
update the thing. Make a PTR3. Fine keep the CD writer for what ever 
it's worth, but lift the dam limits off the card reader. Cause even 
compact flash is still a thing but it's not the thing of 2006. There are 
128 GB CF cards. I've seen them on Amazon. They also have some tech I 
can't remember the name of right now that Sound Devices also takes 
advantage of that makes them fast. Like dude come on. So how's the PTN2? 
Is the drive loads quieter then the PTN1's drive? I've seen the PTP1 
it's cool. It's a mini PTR1. I still have my ptr1 and it is a shame it's 
rejecting CF cards left and right. I'd love to continue useing it for 
things here and there while it lasts. Though I'd love to get a PTR2. I 
had 1 for a bit. But it went south after a bit. I miiss it. It was epic. 
Though thhis new Cchinese player sounds cool.



On 5/5/2017 1:39 PM, Aidan wrote:

Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy
hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I
agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream
wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I
think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I
have enough players with more in a package.
I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update
it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot
now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but
they really do great work.
The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general
is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most
things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the
most features of all.
Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon
will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms,
voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2)
The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces
or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice
thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it
louder to record better.
Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used
are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15
minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and
compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for
copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and
uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds
to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a
large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You
can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of
different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio,
e-books and daisy.

On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote:

The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8
hours, now.  I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue.

At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:

I read quite a lot and while at home, in my
opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its
good sound, long-lasting battery, although the
battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly
degrades to about 16 with prolonged use.  The
Iphone of course, is also excellent for
listening to BARD books, but with so many other
apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data,
plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer
to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.

The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack
horses, when you take into consideration that
when travelling, I normally take my Iphone,
Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.

Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS
players could solve the battery-life issue plus
add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone could
add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM
radio, for now it uses the wire of the
headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans,
etc.

Regards,

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've 

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-05 Thread Aidan
Well, I think that humanware really like to give us quite crappy
hardware and then we pay fru our nek for what? I love my stream, but I
agree that PlexTalk do a much better job with hardware. The stream
wifi chip is really not that good. I would love to get a milestone, I
think I would like the 212 as it sfor voice and music mostly, as I
have enough players with more in a package.
I have both ptp1 and ptn2, wich have great speakers as said.
I just think that PlexTalk should make their devices faster and update
it more, then I can support them 100%. But the player I enjoy a lot
now is the evo e 10 from vin-vision. They a china baste company but
they really do great work.
The player have wifi, and its very strong, and the hardware in general
is very good. It don't have a full keypad though, so you do most
things with the up, down, left and write and enter, but it have the
most features of all.
Both fm radio and internet radio, podcast ability, recorder, and soon
will hopefully be able to record internet radio also. Five alarms,
voice memos, voice reminders, (similar to the notepad on ptr2)
The recorder is actually so loud when recording from external sorces
or radio that you need to set recording volume to 1 or 2, and the nice
thing about it is that if something is very soft, then you can make it
louder to record better.
Also have noise gate. Not to high quality bitrates, but the most used
are there. It even have time announcements on hour or hafr hour or 15
minits. It uses evona tts joei and sally. It have calculator and
compus bookmarks, and customizable hotkey set. Also alouw for
copying/moving/deleting files. It have four gig internal memory and
uses also sd hc carts. Extremely stable firmware and take ten seconds
to upgrade firmware. Can also check for updates online. It have a
large speaker on the top frunt, and sound louder than even ptp1. You
can choose if you want it to remember the playback position of
different content. Music, wich also include any playable audio,
e-books and daisy.

On 04/05/2017, john schwery <jschw...@centurylink.net> wrote:
> The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8
> hours, now.  I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue.
>
> At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:
>>I read quite a lot and while at home, in my
>>opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its
>>good sound, long-lasting battery, although the
>>battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly
>>degrades to about 16 with prolonged use.  The
>>Iphone of course, is also excellent for
>>listening to BARD books, but with so many other
>>apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data,
>>plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer
>>to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.
>>
>>The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack
>>horses, when you take into consideration that
>>when travelling, I normally take my Iphone,
>>Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.
>>
>>Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS
>>players could solve the battery-life issue plus
>>add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone could
>>add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM
>>radio, for now it uses the wire of the
>>headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans,
>> etc.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Humberto
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pc-audio
>>[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
>>Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
>>To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>>Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
>>better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never
>>seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS
>>player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though.
>>What with the app being on my phone.
>>
>>
>>On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
>> > Hello Hamit:
>> >
>> > Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent,
>> except as I said, that it does not have
>> Wi-Fi.  I also have a VRS but one of the first
>> generation.  I do not use the Milestone for
>> recording except for emergencies, I have an
>> Olympus DS-50 for that and I normally do not
>> record stereo, mostly monoaural voice.
>> >
>> > The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with
>> a grill in front, rather large for the size of
>> the hardware, that plays excellent sound,
>> albeit mono; to hear stereo you must use
>> headphones, but either way the sound is
>> remarkable for such a small player.  It also has FM radio.
>>

RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-04 Thread john schwery
The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 
hours, now.  I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue.


At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:
I read quite a lot and while at home, in my 
opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its 
good sound, long-lasting battery, although the 
battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly 
degrades to about 16 with prolonged use.  The 
Iphone of course, is also excellent for 
listening to BARD books, but with so many other 
apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, 
plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer 
to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.


The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack 
horses, when you take into consideration that 
when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, 
Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.


Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS 
players could solve the battery-life issue plus 
add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone could 
add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM 
radio, for now it uses the wire of the 
headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, etc.


Regards,

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos

Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never
seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS
player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though.
What with the app being on my phone.


On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
> Hello Hamit:
>
> Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, 
except as I said, that it does not have 
Wi-Fi.  I also have a VRS but one of the first 
generation.  I do not use the Milestone for 
recording except for emergencies, I have an 
Olympus DS-50 for that and I normally do not 
record stereo, mostly monoaural voice.

>
> The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with 
a grill in front, rather large for the size of 
the hardware, that plays excellent sound, 
albeit mono; to hear stereo you must use 
headphones, but either way the sound is 
remarkable for such a small player.  It also has FM radio.

>
> I normally use the NLS player to listen to 
BARD books at home, but when travelling or 
otherwise away from home, use mostly my 
Milestone, I prefer it due to size and clarity of sound.

>
> Regards,
>
> Humberto
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos

> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the MileStone
> cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. This comming
> from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out cause my DM420
> died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts as it doesn't
> hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off it'll jump out of
> the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? Yeah during the day
> sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of Victor Quality. I really
> wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB the bord of education and
> services for the blind of Connecticut doesn't have a deal with IRTI no
> more apparently. Oh wells. So what's the new mile stone like? Can you
> send me a recording made with it? Especially if you've used stereo mikes
> with it? Thanks.
>
>
> On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
>> I am amazed that during this long discussion 
nobody has mentioned the Milestone, that Swiss 
machine with great speaker sound that also 
plays NLS books and is much smaller than the 
VRS. Perhaps because it does not have Wi-Fi?

>>
>> Humberto
>>
>> Humberto Rodriguez
>> Fort White, Florida
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Schindler

>> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>> Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with
>> radios and recorders to in this price range, 
but unless you have some vision
>> to read the menus they won't do you much 
good. They have a small speaker and

>> a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input.
>>
>> The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as
>> good as the Olympus machines bu

SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-04 Thread Brian Olesen
Yo Humberto!
What a funny coincident.
I also use a CPap machine. It's even more important to me then my girlfriend I 
think. Grin
But why not look into some of the new exciting Android devices like the Samsung 
Galaxy S8, or the cheeper Huawei phones?
Have you guys ever heard about the Capsys SmartVision 2? It's a super cool 
smartphone made in france that also has lots of special apps for the blind 
build in, and a reasonable battery cycle.
At least it holds power for more than double the time  then it's the case for 
an iPhone. It's a combined keypad and touch screen phone especially build up 
from the ground to serve the visually impaired users.
Further more it's equipped with a micro sd card reader, so memory will never be 
an issue again.

Right now I have a really weird issue with my iPad that Apple has a hard time 
fixing, and I tell you. If they can't or won't fix that I'd never ever buy a 
unit from Apple again. I off course hope the best. Smile

Best regards
Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Humberto 
Rodriguez
Sendt: 4. maj 2017 16:08
Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the NLS 
player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the battery life, 
that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16 with prolonged use.  The 
Iphone of course, is also excellent for listening to BARD books, but with so 
many other apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, plus texting and the 
telephone itself, I prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.

The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack horses, when you take into 
consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, Milestone, 
Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.

Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS players could solve the 
battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone could add 
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it uses the wire of 
the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, 
etc.

Regards,

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much better 
then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never seen 1 and 
wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS player. I too have 1. 
It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though. 
What with the app being on my phone.


On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
> Hello Hamit:
>
> Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, except as I said, that it does 
> not have Wi-Fi.  I also have a VRS but one of the first generation.  I do not 
> use the Milestone for recording except for emergencies, I have an Olympus 
> DS-50 for that and I normally do not record stereo, mostly monoaural voice.
>
> The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with a grill in front, rather large 
> for the size of the hardware, that plays excellent sound, albeit mono; to 
> hear stereo you must use headphones, but either way the sound is remarkable 
> for such a small player.  It also has FM radio.
>
> I normally use the NLS player to listen to BARD books at home, but when 
> travelling or otherwise away from home, use mostly my Milestone, I prefer it 
> due to size and clarity of sound.
>
> Regards,
>
> Humberto
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Hamit Campos
> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the 
> MileStone cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. 
> This comming from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out 
> cause my DM420 died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts 
> as it doesn't hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off 
> it'll jump out of the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? 
> Yeah during the day sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of 
> Victor Quality. I really wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB 
> the bord of education and services for the blind of Connecticut 
> doesn't have a deal with IRTI no more apparently. Oh wells. So what's 
> the new mile stone like? Can you send me a recording made with it? 
> Especially if you've used stereo mikes with it? Thanks.
>
>
> On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
>> I am ama

RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-04 Thread Humberto Rodriguez
I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the NLS 
player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the battery life, 
that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16 with prolonged use.  The 
Iphone of course, is also excellent for listening to BARD books, but with so 
many other apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, plus texting and the 
telephone itself, I prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.

The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack horses, when you take into 
consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, Milestone, 
Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.

Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS players could solve the 
battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone could add 
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it uses the wire of 
the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, 
etc.

Regards,

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much 
better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never 
seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS 
player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though. 
What with the app being on my phone.


On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
> Hello Hamit:
>
> Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, except as I said, that it does 
> not have Wi-Fi.  I also have a VRS but one of the first generation.  I do not 
> use the Milestone for recording except for emergencies, I have an Olympus 
> DS-50 for that and I normally do not record stereo, mostly monoaural voice.
>
> The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with a grill in front, rather large 
> for the size of the hardware, that plays excellent sound, albeit mono; to 
> hear stereo you must use headphones, but either way the sound is remarkable 
> for such a small player.  It also has FM radio.
>
> I normally use the NLS player to listen to BARD books at home, but when 
> travelling or otherwise away from home, use mostly my Milestone, I prefer it 
> due to size and clarity of sound.
>
> Regards,
>
> Humberto
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit 
> Campos
> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the MileStone
> cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. This comming
> from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out cause my DM420
> died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts as it doesn't
> hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off it'll jump out of
> the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? Yeah during the day
> sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of Victor Quality. I really
> wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB the bord of education and
> services for the blind of Connecticut doesn't have a deal with IRTI no
> more apparently. Oh wells. So what's the new mile stone like? Can you
> send me a recording made with it? Especially if you've used stereo mikes
> with it? Thanks.
>
>
> On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
>> I am amazed that during this long discussion nobody has mentioned the 
>> Milestone, that Swiss machine with great speaker sound that also plays NLS 
>> books and is much smaller than the VRS. Perhaps because it does not have 
>> Wi-Fi?
>>
>> Humberto
>>
>> Humberto Rodriguez
>> Fort White, Florida
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary 
>> Schindler
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>> Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with
>> radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision
>> to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and
>> a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input.
>>
>> The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as
>> good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you
>> don't have sight you pay handsomely for the a

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-04 Thread Hamit Campos
Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much 
better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never 
seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS 
player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though. 
What with the app being on my phone.



On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:

Hello Hamit:

Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, except as I said, that it does not 
have Wi-Fi.  I also have a VRS but one of the first generation.  I do not use 
the Milestone for recording except for emergencies, I have an Olympus DS-50 for 
that and I normally do not record stereo, mostly monoaural voice.

The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with a grill in front, rather large 
for the size of the hardware, that plays excellent sound, albeit mono; to hear 
stereo you must use headphones, but either way the sound is remarkable for such 
a small player.  It also has FM radio.

I normally use the NLS player to listen to BARD books at home, but when 
travelling or otherwise away from home, use mostly my Milestone, I prefer it 
due to size and clarity of sound.

Regards,

Humberto

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the MileStone
cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. This comming
from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out cause my DM420
died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts as it doesn't
hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off it'll jump out of
the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? Yeah during the day
sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of Victor Quality. I really
wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB the bord of education and
services for the blind of Connecticut doesn't have a deal with IRTI no
more apparently. Oh wells. So what's the new mile stone like? Can you
send me a recording made with it? Especially if you've used stereo mikes
with it? Thanks.


On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:

I am amazed that during this long discussion nobody has mentioned the 
Milestone, that Swiss machine with great speaker sound that also plays NLS 
books and is much smaller than the VRS. Perhaps because it does not have Wi-Fi?

Humberto

Humberto Rodriguez
Fort White, Florida


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary 
Schindler
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with
radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision
to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and
a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input.

The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as
good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you
don't have sight you pay handsomely for the ability to have accessibility to
outmoded technology for a small niche market.

If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be buying
the Victor Streams or Bookports at all.

-Original Message-
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder?


On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:

Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books
with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3
player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it
and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are
paying for accessible menus with the stream.

The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money
as the stream.

Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books
even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.

-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah it's also wider on the IPhone. Also Dain like me could be spoiled 
by hi end audio. lol Not bashing ya Dain. Just remember my story when I 
brought out my PTR1. Which was my favorite. I've been so spoiled by Bose 
that I was like oh yuck what the heck is this? No harsh crisp s's or 
f's. What's going on here? But that was it. I was so use to Bose. Heck I 
had even otherized FS Reader so I'd even been listening to RFB books 
with Bose. So the shock to go back to PTR1. Like I said too, the PTR1 
was my favorite DAISY player. Till the PTR2 came along.



On 5/3/2017 2:29 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

Dane:  I guess I am missing something, but I have just finished comparing the sound of my VR Stream to the sound 
of my speaker on my Iphone 6; I fail to hear this "muffleness" that you speak of on the stream!  
Granted: the Iphone is a bit easier on my ears than the VR Stream!  But with the VR Stream (at least is the case 
with mine) it definitely does seem to have the highs (doesn't really sound muffled to my ear!  So the only thing I 
can conclude is this: it is possible that maybe if someone doesn't have good hearing, maybe this is how the VR 
Stream's speaker would sound to a person who has a hearing loss?  Just listened again...and seem to still be able 
to hear the "ses" and Fs" on the stream; have the same internet station on; I'll repeat, I find 
that the Iphone is "easier on the ears"; my guess here is that the VRR Stream's speaker may be smaller 
in size than the speaker on the Iphone?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 1:03 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Sorry but a lot of you still don't seem to get my point.

Yes, the VR Stream is designed with speech in mind that I grant you and
I have absolutely no arguement with that but the internal speaker - even
by speech standards - is not good, very mid-range yes but lacking top so
some people may get confused with say S and F particularly given the
fact that TTS is used a lot of the time.

Most devices these days - Smart Devices are a case in point - have very
clear and chrisp tops that makes listening to music, speech etc very
enjoyable and understandable.

To prove my point, go listen to a Daisy book on your VR Stream and then
- using Voice Dream Reader or something similar - go listen to that book
on your iPhone or whatever and you'll soon hear what I'm talking about.

Now if you like things that way - speech without a distinct top - then
fine! but I think its a great shame that a good speaker is an omission
on the VR Strea. Yep I grant you, the quality is far better than that
found on the first generation of VR Stream.

I've not used a Plextalk Pocket but I have used other Plextalk machines
and the speakers in those are absolutely fantastic.



On 4/05/2017 12:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:

Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books
with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3
player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker
in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is
that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream.

The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much
money as the stream.

Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard
books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.

-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.


On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand
that later firmware updates had fixed this.
Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Strea

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah. But for DTBs though now RFB as it use to be called has an app. 
Bard has an app. So just for books alone I'm not sure 1 can justify 
these things no more. Other than that the VRStream or what I would 
prefer the Plextalk Pocket are just for that alone.



On 5/3/2017 4:56 PM, Gary Schindler wrote:
Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players 
with radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have 
some vision to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a 
small speaker and a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic 
and auxiliary input.


The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, 
not as good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have 
sight. If you don't have sight you pay handsomely for the ability to 
have accessibility to outmoded technology for a small niche market.


If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be 
buying the Victor Streams or Bookports at all.


-Original Message- From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder?


On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking 
books with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get 
an MP3 player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding 
speaker in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the 
caveat is that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream.


The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much 
money as the stream.


Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard 
books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.


-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to 
understand that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that 
- using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 
44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could 
use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full 
advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of 
high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor 
Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf 
Of Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t 
really want to try and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability 
to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for 
users of a VR Stream.
P

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the MileStone 
cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. This comming 
from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out cause my DM420 
died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts as it doesn't 
hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off it'll jump out of 
the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? Yeah during the day 
sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of Victor Quality. I really 
wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB the bord of education and 
services for the blind of Connecticut doesn't have a deal with IRTI no 
more apparently. Oh wells. So what's the new mile stone like? Can you 
send me a recording made with it? Especially if you've used stereo mikes 
with it? Thanks.



On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:

I am amazed that during this long discussion nobody has mentioned the 
Milestone, that Swiss machine with great speaker sound that also plays NLS 
books and is much smaller than the VRS. Perhaps because it does not have Wi-Fi?

Humberto

Humberto Rodriguez
Fort White, Florida


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary 
Schindler
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with
radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision
to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and
a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input.

The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as
good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you
don't have sight you pay handsomely for the ability to have accessibility to
outmoded technology for a small niche market.

If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be buying
the Victor Streams or Bookports at all.

-Original Message-
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder?


On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:

Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books
with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3
player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it
and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are
paying for accessible menus with the stream.

The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money
as the stream.

Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books
even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.

-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:

Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk
Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.


On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand
that later firmware updates had fixed this.
Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable
all-purpose player/recorder.

 Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
wrote:

I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that -
using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so
surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the
line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.


On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings b

RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Humberto Rodriguez
I am amazed that during this long discussion nobody has mentioned the 
Milestone, that Swiss machine with great speaker sound that also plays NLS 
books and is much smaller than the VRS. Perhaps because it does not have Wi-Fi?

Humberto

Humberto Rodriguez
Fort White, Florida


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary 
Schindler
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with 
radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision 
to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and 
a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input.

The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as 
good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you 
don't have sight you pay handsomely for the ability to have accessibility to 
outmoded technology for a small niche market.

If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be buying 
the Victor Streams or Bookports at all.

-Original Message- 
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder?


On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
> Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books 
> with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 
> player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it 
> and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are 
> paying for accessible menus with the stream.
>
> The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money 
> as the stream.
>
> Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books 
> even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.
>
> -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
> high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
> sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
> player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
> report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
> that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
> other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
> buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.
>
> I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
> like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
> stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
> particular job like that done.
>
>
> On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
>> Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk 
>> Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.
>>
>>
>> On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
>>> that later firmware updates had fixed this.
>>> Too late to try that here now .
>>>
>>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
>>>> whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
>>>> all-purpose player/recorder.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - 
>>>> using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so 
>>>> surely this should be reasonable.
>>>> So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the 
>>>> line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.
>>>>
>>>>> On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
>>>>> broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>&g

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Gary Schindler
Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with 
radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision 
to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and 
a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input.


The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as 
good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you 
don't have sight you pay handsomely for the ability to have accessibility to 
outmoded technology for a small niche market.


If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be buying 
the Victor Streams or Bookports at all.


-Original Message- 
From: Hamit Campos

Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder?


On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books 
with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 
player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it 
and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are 
paying for accessible menus with the stream.


The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money 
as the stream.


Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books 
even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.


-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk 
Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> 
wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - 
using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so 
surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the 
line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve 
discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation 
and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try 
and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I 
wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse 
NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just 
about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet 
radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would 
be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware 
take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until 
Christmas for the VR Stream users to download .
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about 
that.



On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon &

SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi
They also have a version without all the scanning jazz for about the same price 
as the Stream.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Gary Schindler
Sendt: 3. maj 2017 16:56
Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Emne: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with a 
few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player recorder 
for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it and records MP3 and 
wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are paying for accessible 
menus with the stream.

The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money as 
the stream.

Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books even 
before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end 
audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR 
stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, 
i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings.  I do 
think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a 
future update.  If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can 
the stream.  But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with 
it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like 
BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that 
way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job 
like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
> Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.
>
>
> On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
>> that later firmware updates had fixed this.
>> Too late to try that here now .
>>
>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
>>> whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
>>> all-purpose player/recorder.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - 
>>> using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so 
>>> surely this should be reasonable.
>>> So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use 
>>> the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.
>>>
>>>> On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
>>>> broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.
>>>>
>>>> Jamie
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Dane Trethowan
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>>
>>>> Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
>>>> we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
>>>> limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really 
>>>> want to try and download a good quality audio stream.
>>>> And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
>>>> Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, 
>>>> I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to 
>>>> browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for 
>>>> files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that 
>>>> can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which 
>>>> and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream.
>>>> Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
>>>> hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will 
>>>> take until Christmas for

RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Adrian Spratt
With the Humanware Companion software, I download BARD books from the website 
to my PC, where the Companion software automatically organizes them into 
alphabetically-arranged folders. Then I copy the books to my Stream using an SD 
card. Very fast and no thinking involved.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Chris 
Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end 
audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR 
stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, 
i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings.  I do 
think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a 
future update.  If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can 
the stream.  But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with 
it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like 
BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that 
way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job 
like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
> Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.
>
>
> On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
>> that later firmware updates had fixed this.
>> Too late to try that here now .
>>
>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
>>> whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
>>> all-purpose player/recorder.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - 
>>> using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so 
>>> surely this should be reasonable.
>>> So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use 
>>> the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.
>>>
>>>> On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
>>>> broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.
>>>>
>>>> Jamie
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Dane Trethowan
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>>
>>>> Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
>>>> we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
>>>> limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really 
>>>> want to try and download a good quality audio stream.
>>>> And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
>>>> Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, 
>>>> I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to 
>>>> browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for 
>>>> files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that 
>>>> can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which 
>>>> and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream.
>>>> Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
>>>> hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will 
>>>> take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download .
>>>> Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about 
>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>>> On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I love my Victor Stream.
>>>>> The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate 
>>>>> internet radio stations.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> Fr

RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Tom Kaufman
Dane:  I guess I am missing something, but I have just finished comparing the 
sound of my VR Stream to the sound of my speaker on my Iphone 6; I fail to hear 
this "muffleness" that you speak of on the stream!  Granted: the Iphone is a 
bit easier on my ears than the VR Stream!  But with the VR Stream (at least is 
the case with mine) it definitely does seem to have the highs (doesn't really 
sound muffled to my ear!  So the only thing I can conclude is this: it is 
possible that maybe if someone doesn't have good hearing, maybe this is how the 
VR Stream's speaker would sound to a person who has a hearing loss?  Just 
listened again...and seem to still be able to hear the "ses" and Fs" on the 
stream; have the same internet station on; I'll repeat, I find that the Iphone 
is "easier on the ears"; my guess here is that the VRR Stream's speaker may be 
smaller in size than the speaker on the Iphone?
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 1:03 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Sorry but a lot of you still don't seem to get my point.

Yes, the VR Stream is designed with speech in mind that I grant you and 
I have absolutely no arguement with that but the internal speaker - even 
by speech standards - is not good, very mid-range yes but lacking top so 
some people may get confused with say S and F particularly given the 
fact that TTS is used a lot of the time.

Most devices these days - Smart Devices are a case in point - have very 
clear and chrisp tops that makes listening to music, speech etc very 
enjoyable and understandable.

To prove my point, go listen to a Daisy book on your VR Stream and then 
- using Voice Dream Reader or something similar - go listen to that book 
on your iPhone or whatever and you'll soon hear what I'm talking about.

Now if you like things that way - speech without a distinct top - then 
fine! but I think its a great shame that a good speaker is an omission 
on the VR Strea. Yep I grant you, the quality is far better than that 
found on the first generation of VR Stream.

I've not used a Plextalk Pocket but I have used other Plextalk machines 
and the speakers in those are absolutely fantastic.



On 4/05/2017 12:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
> Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books 
> with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 
> player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker 
> in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is 
> that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream.
>
> The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much 
> money as the stream.
>
> Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard 
> books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.
>
> -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
> To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
> high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
> sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
> player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
> report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
> that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
> other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
> buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.
>
> I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
> like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
> stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
> particular job like that done.
>
>
> On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
>> Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
>> Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.
>>
>>
>> On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
>>> that later firmware updates had fixed this.
>>> Too late to try that here now .
>>>
>>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
>>>> whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
>>>> all-purpose player/recorder.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> On

RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Tom Kaufman
Amen, Gary!

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary 
Schindler
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 10:56 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with 
a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player 
recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it and 
records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are 
paying for accessible menus with the stream.

The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money 
as the stream.

Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books 
even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk 
> Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.
>
>
> On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that 
>> later firmware updates had fixed this.
>> Too late to try that here now .
>>
>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
>>> whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
>>> all-purpose player/recorder.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - 
>>> using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so 
>>> surely this should be reasonable.
>>> So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the 
>>> line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.
>>>
>>>> On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
>>>> broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.
>>>>
>>>> Jamie
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
>>>> Trethowan
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>>
>>>> Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve 
>>>> discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation 
>>>> and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try 
>>>> and download a good quality audio stream.
>>>> And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
>>>> Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I 
>>>> wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse 
>>>> NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just 
>>>> about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet 
>>>> radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be 
>>>> an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream.
>>>> Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware 
>>>> take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until 
>>>> Christmas for the VR Stream users to download .
>>>> Regarding my own streaM/ Its found 

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan

Sorry but a lot of you still don't seem to get my point.

Yes, the VR Stream is designed with speech in mind that I grant you and 
I have absolutely no arguement with that but the internal speaker - even 
by speech standards - is not good, very mid-range yes but lacking top so 
some people may get confused with say S and F particularly given the 
fact that TTS is used a lot of the time.


Most devices these days - Smart Devices are a case in point - have very 
clear and chrisp tops that makes listening to music, speech etc very 
enjoyable and understandable.


To prove my point, go listen to a Daisy book on your VR Stream and then 
- using Voice Dream Reader or something similar - go listen to that book 
on your iPhone or whatever and you'll soon hear what I'm talking about.


Now if you like things that way - speech without a distinct top - then 
fine! but I think its a great shame that a good speaker is an omission 
on the VR Strea. Yep I grant you, the quality is far better than that 
found on the first generation of VR Stream.


I've not used a Plextalk Pocket but I have used other Plextalk machines 
and the speakers in those are absolutely fantastic.




On 4/05/2017 12:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books 
with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 
player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker 
in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is 
that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream.


The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much 
money as the stream.


Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard 
books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.


-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that 
- using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ 
so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use 
the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t 
really want to try and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to 
be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users 
of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
Well know, I don't have to remember that at all because we can argue - 
quite correctly - that we're paying a premium price for this technology, 
technology - hardware and software in the main - which is common place 
and in the public domain.




On 4/05/2017 12:41 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
Let's remember when you buy the Victor stream you are paying for a 
player that plays specially formatted books with a few features for 
added convinceconveniences


-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that 
- using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ 
so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use 
the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t 
really want to try and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to 
be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users 
of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it 
will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download 
.
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about 
that.



On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate 
internet radio stations.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people 
either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.



On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to 
report

on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the
player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player 
are as
slow as some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that 
this
is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out 
for

some time now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos

What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder?


On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books 
with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 
player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker 
in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is 
that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream.


The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much 
money as the stream.


Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard 
books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.


-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that 
- using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ 
so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use 
the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t 
really want to try and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to 
be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users 
of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it 
will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download 
.
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about 
that.



On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate 
internet radio stations.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people 
either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.



On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to 
report

on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the
player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player 
are as
slow as some of you guy

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah that's right the origenal Stream handeled the Bard Books way before 
the NLS came out with their own player. You're right.



On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books 
with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 
player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker 
in it and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is 
that you are paying for accessible menus with the stream.


The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much 
money as the stream.


Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard 
books even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.


-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that 
- using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ 
so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use 
the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t 
really want to try and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to 
be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users 
of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it 
will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download 
.
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about 
that.



On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate 
internet radio stations.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people 
either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.



On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to 
report

on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the
play

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Gary Schindler
Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books with 
a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3 player 
recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it and 
records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are 
paying for accessible menus with the stream.


The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money 
as the stream.


Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books 
even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad

Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk 
Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that 
later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> 
wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - 
using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so 
surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the 
line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve 
discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation 
and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try 
and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I 
wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse 
NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just 
about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet 
radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be 
an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware 
take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until 
Christmas for the VR Stream users to download .

Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that.


On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate 
internet radio stations.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people 
either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.



On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:

I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report
on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the
player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as
slow as some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this
is just now coming up, as the new generation s

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
The only things I can compare to even the clasic Victors and the 
Strattus is tape players. I don't know why HumanWare has chosen that 
tape player quality for though.



On 5/3/2017 10:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I'm telling you now, - regardless of the bit rate - the speaker in the 
Stream could have a better sound, just plug a very average sounding 
spekaer you can get at the discount store and you'll soon see what I 
mean.


I really need to rack my brains to find anything I have here that 
sounds muffled at the top end as the Stream does, can't think of 
anything off hand.


Anyway the Stream's in the past for me now, time to look at the blaze 
ET and of course I'll be interested to hear the speakers in that unit 
though - judging by the one Hims Inc product I've owned - a Voice 
Sense - I'm expecting pretty good sound.




On 3/05/2017 11:16 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Yeah. Now I've not even seen the Blaze. So can't really Judge 1. But 
yeah as good as the Plextalks sound to me sure they're no Bose. But 
meh okay for MP3 at 32 kbps. I think this is why most DAISY players 
ain't real good. Cause DAISY books. Talking Books are mostly recorded 
at kinda low quality. Even for recording. If you're okay with CD 
audio, than fine. But none of these do Blu-Ray audio. Which is 96 KHZ 
at 24 bits. Or even better 192 KHZ. Oh and no XLR or Phantum Power. 
What I'm basicaly saying is that yeah there's loads and loads to nit 
pick and rightly so cause these things are so dam expensive but meh 
they are what they are and if you're okay with that what evs. Though 
now you could use the Bard app. I don't know where you are but here 
in the USA you can now use the app for Learning Ally which use to be 
RFB So these aren't so needed no more.



On 5/3/2017 9:05 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who 
enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about 
how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad 
press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the 
next few days and report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth 
functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a 
future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, 
so can the stream.  But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm 
certainly ok with it.


I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online 
services like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and 
put them on the stream that way.  It's good to know there are 
multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done.



On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to 
understand that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts 
or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a 
reasonable all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note 
that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 
44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could 
use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full 
advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of 
high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor 
Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf 
Of Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very 
serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one 
wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio 
stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability 
to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for 
users of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it 
will take until Christmas for the VR 

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos

That's exactly right.


On 5/3/2017 10:41 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
Let's remember when you buy the Victor stream you are paying for a 
player that plays specially formatted books with a few features for 
added convinceconveniences


-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that 
- using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ 
so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use 
the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t 
really want to try and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to 
be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users 
of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it 
will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download 
.
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about 
that.



On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate 
internet radio stations.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people 
either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.



On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to 
report

on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the
player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player 
are as
slow as some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that 
this
is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out 
for

some time now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but
maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that
time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my 
experiences.







On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed wi

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Gary Schindler
Let's remember when you buy the Victor stream you are paying for a player 
that plays specially formatted books with a few features for added 
convinceconveniences


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Skarstad

Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a
particular job like that done.


On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk 
Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that 
later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> 
wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - 
using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so 
surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the 
line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve 
discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation 
and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try 
and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I 
wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse 
NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just 
about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet 
radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be 
an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware 
take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until 
Christmas for the VR Stream users to download .

Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that.


On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate 
internet radio stations.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people 
either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.



On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:

I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report
on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the
player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as
slow as some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this
is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for
some time now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but
maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that
time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.






On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those
of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
I'm telling you now, - regardless of the bit rate - the speaker in the 
Stream could have a better sound, just plug a very average sounding 
spekaer you can get at the discount store and you'll soon see what I mean.


I really need to rack my brains to find anything I have here that sounds 
muffled at the top end as the Stream does, can't think of anything off hand.


Anyway the Stream's in the past for me now, time to look at the blaze ET 
and of course I'll be interested to hear the speakers in that unit 
though - judging by the one Hims Inc product I've owned - a Voice Sense 
- I'm expecting pretty good sound.




On 3/05/2017 11:16 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Yeah. Now I've not even seen the Blaze. So can't really Judge 1. But 
yeah as good as the Plextalks sound to me sure they're no Bose. But 
meh okay for MP3 at 32 kbps. I think this is why most DAISY players 
ain't real good. Cause DAISY books. Talking Books are mostly recorded 
at kinda low quality. Even for recording. If you're okay with CD 
audio, than fine. But none of these do Blu-Ray audio. Which is 96 KHZ 
at 24 bits. Or even better 192 KHZ. Oh and no XLR or Phantum Power. 
What I'm basicaly saying is that yeah there's loads and loads to nit 
pick and rightly so cause these things are so dam expensive but meh 
they are what they are and if you're okay with that what evs. Though 
now you could use the Bard app. I don't know where you are but here in 
the USA you can now use the app for Learning Ally which use to be 
RFB So these aren't so needed no more.



On 5/3/2017 9:05 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys 
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff 
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the 
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days 
and report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is 
something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If 
some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the 
stream.  But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok 
with it.


I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online 
services like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put 
them on the stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple 
ways of getting a particular job like that done.



On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to 
understand that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that 
- using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 
44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could 
use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full 
advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of 
high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor 
Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf 
Of Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t 
really want to try and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability 
to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for 
users of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it 
will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download 
.
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about 
that.



On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about 

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
Okay normally I'd agree with you but in this case? We're not being picky 
about audio, fact is the speaker in the VR Stream 2nd generation - 
whilst a vast improvement on that of the 1st generation - is not a good 
speaker.





On 3/05/2017 11:05 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys 
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff 
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the 
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days 
and report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is 
something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some 
of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But 
i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.


I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services 
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on 
the stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of 
getting a particular job like that done.



On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that 
- using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ 
so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use 
the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t 
really want to try and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to 
be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users 
of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it 
will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download 
.
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about 
that.



On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate 
internet radio stations.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people 
either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.



On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to 
report

on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the
player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player 
are as
slow as some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that 
this
is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out 
for

some time now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but
maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that
time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my 
experiences.







On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and 
those

of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi
transceiver in it. Even when I'm 

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah. Now I've not even seen the Blaze. So can't really Judge 1. But 
yeah as good as the Plextalks sound to me sure they're no Bose. But meh 
okay for MP3 at 32 kbps. I think this is why most DAISY players ain't 
real good. Cause DAISY books. Talking Books are mostly recorded at kinda 
low quality. Even for recording. If you're okay with CD audio, than 
fine. But none of these do Blu-Ray audio. Which is 96 KHZ at 24 bits. Or 
even better 192 KHZ. Oh and no XLR or Phantum Power. What I'm basicaly 
saying is that yeah there's loads and loads to nit pick and rightly so 
cause these things are so dam expensive but meh they are what they are 
and if you're okay with that what evs. Though now you could use the Bard 
app. I don't know where you are but here in the USA you can now use the 
app for Learning Ally which use to be RFB So these aren't so needed 
no more.



On 5/3/2017 9:05 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys 
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff 
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the 
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days 
and report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is 
something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some 
of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But 
i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.


I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services 
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on 
the stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of 
getting a particular job like that done.



On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan 
<grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that 
- using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ 
so surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use 
the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t 
really want to try and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an 
observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to 
be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a 
network for files? Just about every other device I know of these 
days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy 
feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users 
of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it 
will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download 
.
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about 
that.



On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate 
internet radio stations.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people 
either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.



On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to 
report

on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and 

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Chris Skarstad
I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys 
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff 
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the 
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and 
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something 
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the 
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm 
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.


I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services 
like BARD.  I can always download the books manually and put them on the 
stream that way.  It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a 
particular job like that done.



On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The 
Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand 
that later firmware updates had fixed this.

Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or 
whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable 
all-purpose player/recorder.


Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> 
wrote:


I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - 
using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so 
surely this should be reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use 
the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.



On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high 
broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as 
we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious 
limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really 
want to try and download a good quality audio stream.

And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, 
I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to 
browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for 
files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that 
can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which 
and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though 
hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will 
take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download .
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about 
that.



On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate 
internet radio stations.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people 
either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.



On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:

I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report
on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the
player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as
slow as some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that 
this

is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for
some time now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but
maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that
time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.






On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those
of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi
transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually 
says

that reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that
little package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reade

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk 
Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.



On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later 
firmware updates had fixed this.
Too late to try that here now .


On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in 
recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose 
player/recorder.

Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:

I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this 
function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be 
reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in 
method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.


On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast 
quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.

Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve 
discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - 
given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a 
good quality audio stream.
And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder 
why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage 
devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other 
device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this 
handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a 
VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, 
don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users 
to download .
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that.


On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet 
radio stations.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't 
have the issue or they just axepted it.


On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:

I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report
on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the
player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as
slow as some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this
is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for
some time now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but
maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that
time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.






On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those
of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi
transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says
that reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that
little package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on
my purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however -
having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this,
a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a
small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for
years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have
Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check
for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up
to date

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later 
firmware updates had fixed this.
Too late to try that here now .

> On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <t...@timnoonan.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles 
> in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose 
> player/recorder.
> 
>   Regards
> Tim
> 
> On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using 
> this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this 
> should be reasonable.
> So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the 
> line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.
> 
>> On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast 
>> quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.
>> 
>> Jamie
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
>> Trethowan
>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>> 
>> Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve 
>> discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - 
>> given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download 
>> a good quality audio stream.
>> And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
>> Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder 
>> why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage 
>> devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other 
>> device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas 
>> this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for 
>> users of a VR Stream.
>> Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take 
>> my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for 
>> the VR Stream users to download .
>> Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that.
>> 
>>> On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I love my Victor Stream. 
>>> The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet 
>>> radio stations.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Hamit Campos
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>> 
>>> Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either 
>>> didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
>>>> I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report 
>>>> on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon 
>>>> Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the 
>>>> player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as 
>>>> slow as some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this 
>>>> is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for 
>>>> some time now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but 
>>>> maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that 
>>>> time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
>>>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those 
>>>>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
>>>>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says 
>>>>> that reception is poor.
>>>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that 
>>>>> little package.
>>>>> Evan
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Tim Noonan
Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in 
recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose 
player/recorder.

Regards
Tim

On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:

I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this 
function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be 
reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in 
method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.

> On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast 
> quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
> 
> Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve 
> discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - 
> given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a 
> good quality audio stream.
> And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
> Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder 
> why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage 
> devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other 
> device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas 
> this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users 
> of a VR Stream.
> Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my 
> advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the 
> VR Stream users to download .
> Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that.
> 
>> On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> I love my Victor Stream. 
>> The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet 
>> radio stations.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Hamit Campos
>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>> 
>> Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either 
>> didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
>>> I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report 
>>> on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon 
>>> Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the 
>>> player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as 
>>> slow as some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this 
>>> is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for 
>>> some time now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but 
>>> maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that 
>>> time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
>>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those 
>>>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
>>>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says 
>>>> that reception is poor.
>>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that 
>>>> little package.
>>>> Evan
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> 
>>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on 
>>>> my purchase.
>>>> 
>>>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in 
>>>> most respects.
>>>> 
>>>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
>>>> having already heard a VR Stream - I was alre

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this 
function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be 
reasonable.
So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in 
method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.

> On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <otrja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast 
> quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
> 
> Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve 
> discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - 
> given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a 
> good quality audio stream.
> And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
> Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder 
> why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage 
> devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other 
> device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas 
> this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users 
> of a VR Stream.
> Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my 
> advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the 
> VR Stream users to download .
> Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that.
> 
>> On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> I love my Victor Stream. 
>> The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet 
>> radio stations.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Hamit Campos
>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>> 
>> Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either 
>> didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
>>> I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report 
>>> on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon 
>>> Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the 
>>> player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as 
>>> slow as some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this 
>>> is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for 
>>> some time now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but 
>>> maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that 
>>> time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
>>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those 
>>>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
>>>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says 
>>>> that reception is poor.
>>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that 
>>>> little package.
>>>> Evan
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> 
>>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on 
>>>> my purchase.
>>>> 
>>>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in 
>>>> most respects.
>>>> 
>>>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
>>>> having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, 
>>>> a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a 
>>>> small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for 
>>>> years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have 
>>>

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yep and thanks for mentioning this, - now that I’ve seen the VR Stream - the 
Blaze ET will certainly be on my shopping list.
As to why the ET wasn’t mentioned before? Probably for the simple reason that 
we were wasting our collective time discussing the VR Stream .

> On 3 May 2017, at 5:15 pm, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I don't know, why the Hims Blaze ET has not been menchened as it's a 
> scarrylly cool unit that also has Bluetooth support.
> https://hims-inc.com/products/blaze-et/
> 
> Best regards
> Brian
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sendt: 3. maj 2017 08:47
> Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Emne: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
> 
> Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve 
> discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - 
> given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a 
> good quality audio stream.
> And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
> Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder 
> why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage 
> devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other 
> device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas 
> this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users 
> of a VR Stream.
> Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my 
> advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the 
> VR Stream users to download .
> Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that.
> 
>> On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>> I love my Victor Stream. 
>> The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet 
>> radio stations.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Hamit Campos
>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>> 
>> Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either 
>> didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
>>> I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report 
>>> on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon 
>>> Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the 
>>> player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as 
>>> slow as some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this 
>>> is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for 
>>> some time now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but 
>>> maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that 
>>> time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
>>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those 
>>>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
>>>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says 
>>>> that reception is poor.
>>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that 
>>>> little package.
>>>> Evan
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> 
>>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on 
>>>> my purchase.
>>>> 
>>>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in 
>>>> most respects.
>>>> 
>>>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
>>>> having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, 
>>>> a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a 
>>>> small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for 
>>>> years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have 
>>

RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Jamie Kelly
The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast 
quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.

Jamie

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve 
discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - 
given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a 
good quality audio stream.
And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder 
why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage 
devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other 
device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this 
handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a 
VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my 
advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the 
VR Stream users to download .
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that.

> On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> 
> I love my Victor Stream. 
> The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet 
> radio stations.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Hamit Campos
> Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
> 
> Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either 
> didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.
> 
> 
> On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
>> I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report 
>> on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon 
>> Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the 
>> player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as 
>> slow as some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this 
>> is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for 
>> some time now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but 
>> maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that 
>> time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those 
>>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
>>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says 
>>> that reception is poor.
>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that 
>>> little package.
>>> Evan
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on 
>>> my purchase.
>>> 
>>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in 
>>> most respects.
>>> 
>>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
>>> having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, 
>>> a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a 
>>> small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for 
>>> years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have 
>>> Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint.
>>> 
>>> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have 
>>> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow 
>>> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check 
>>> for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up 
>>> to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.
>>> 
>>> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream 
>>> box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
>>> forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions 
>>>

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-03 Thread Dane Trethowan
Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve 
discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - 
given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a 
good quality audio stream.
And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder 
why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage 
devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other 
device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this 
handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a 
VR Stream.
Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my 
advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the 
VR Stream users to download .
Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that.

> On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <sca...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> 
> I love my Victor Stream. 
> The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet 
> radio stations.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit 
> Campos
> Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
> 
> Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either 
> didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.
> 
> 
> On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
>> I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report 
>> on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon 
>> Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player 
>> won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as 
>> some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this is just 
>> now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time 
>> now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I 
>> skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm 
>> not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those 
>>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
>>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says 
>>> that reception is poor.
>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little 
>>> package.
>>> Evan
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
>>> purchase.
>>> 
>>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
>>> most respects.
>>> 
>>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
>>> already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
>>> annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
>>> hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
>>> about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
>>> product can't have everythint.
>>> 
>>> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
>>> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
>>> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
>>> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
>>> well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.
>>> 
>>> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
>>> and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
>>> I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
>>> sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
>>> entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.
>>> 
>>> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
>>> downlaoded a couple of books.
>>> 
>>> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
>>> the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
>>> read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
>>> know I have a reliable backup.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread Hamit Campos

I didn't know Samsung makes memory cards though? Cool.


On 5/2/2017 6:09 PM, Kenny wrote:
Try looking up Pny, Samsung and SanDisk  SD cards on Amazon.com. 
Purchased mines during a Black Friday sale on Amazon.


At 05:37 PM 5/2/2017, you wrote:
Dude where did ya get a 256 GB SD card? The VRS allowed it too? 
That's epic!



On 5/2/2017 5:33 PM, Kenny wrote:
WOW! I've owned a VRS 2nd gen for over 4 years and it's my most used 
piece of equipment in my home.


Having my favorite OTR stations bookmarked as Favorites along with 
several other Live audio streams like CNN, this thing is en valuable 
to me.


Listen to my local newspaper and favorite print publications via NFB 
Newsline every single day on my VRS. Nothing like having the 
Samantha voice read to you aloud the morning news or something from 
Reader's Digest, Popular Science or WebMD the Magazine.


Have download some nice ebooks from my Bookshare account to my VRS 
so Samantha can read me a nice bedtime story every night.


I have my VRS plugged via 3.5" jack directly into my MagicBox mini 
Bluetooth speaker and it sounds great. If I carry it around, I have 
some headphones plugged up in it and it sound still great. Rarely do 
I listen to it with the internal speaker.


Even have downloaded some DV (Described Video) content to a 256 GB 
SD card inserted to my VRS to have even more entertainment at my 
fingertips 24/7.


With the recent v4.83 upgrade, the automatic clock sync works 
fantastic now. My Stream humgs like a fine tuned car.


The sluggishness you experienced with it maybe more related to your 
network, not the VRS?


The only 2 things I would want to change is to give it Bluetooth 
connectivity and more internal storage. Other than that it's my 
favorite hardware audio player.


At 08:32 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of 
a 6-transistor radio! If you plug it into a good speaker or a good 
set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if 
I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an 
external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the 
quality of

audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and 
those of

some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that 
little

package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment 
on my

purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a 
bit of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
guess a

product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check 
for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
date,

well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR 
Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
forth -
I won't both

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread Hamit Campos

Dude where did ya get a 256 GB SD card? The VRS allowed it too? That's epic!


On 5/2/2017 5:33 PM, Kenny wrote:
WOW! I've owned a VRS 2nd gen for over 4 years and it's my most used 
piece of equipment in my home.


Having my favorite OTR stations bookmarked as Favorites along with 
several other Live audio streams like CNN, this thing is en valuable 
to me.


Listen to my local newspaper and favorite print publications via NFB 
Newsline every single day on my VRS. Nothing like having the Samantha 
voice read to you aloud the morning news or something from Reader's 
Digest, Popular Science or WebMD the Magazine.


Have download some nice ebooks from my Bookshare account to my VRS so 
Samantha can read me a nice bedtime story every night.


I have my VRS plugged via 3.5" jack directly into my MagicBox mini 
Bluetooth speaker and it sounds great. If I carry it around, I have 
some headphones plugged up in it and it sound still great. Rarely do I 
listen to it with the internal speaker.


Even have downloaded some DV (Described Video) content to a 256 GB SD 
card inserted to my VRS to have even more entertainment at my 
fingertips 24/7.


With the recent v4.83 upgrade, the automatic clock sync works 
fantastic now. My Stream humgs like a fine tuned car.


The sluggishness you experienced with it maybe more related to your 
network, not the VRS?


The only 2 things I would want to change is to give it Bluetooth 
connectivity and more internal storage. Other than that it's my 
favorite hardware audio player.


At 08:32 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 
6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good 
set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm 
going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an 
external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the 
quality of

audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit 
of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
guess a

product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
date,

well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
forth -

I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread Kenny
WOW! I've owned a VRS 2nd gen for over 4 years and it's my most used 
piece of equipment in my home.


Having my favorite OTR stations bookmarked as Favorites along with 
several other Live audio streams like CNN, this thing is en valuable to me.


Listen to my local newspaper and favorite print publications via NFB 
Newsline every single day on my VRS. Nothing like having the Samantha 
voice read to you aloud the morning news or something from Reader's 
Digest, Popular Science or WebMD the Magazine.


Have download some nice ebooks from my Bookshare account to my VRS so 
Samantha can read me a nice bedtime story every night.


I have my VRS plugged via 3.5" jack directly into my MagicBox mini 
Bluetooth speaker and it sounds great. If I carry it around, I have 
some headphones plugged up in it and it sound still great. Rarely do 
I listen to it with the internal speaker.


Even have downloaded some DV (Described Video) content to a 256 GB SD 
card inserted to my VRS to have even more entertainment at my fingertips 24/7.


With the recent v4.83 upgrade, the automatic clock sync works 
fantastic now. My Stream humgs like a fine tuned car.


The sluggishness you experienced with it maybe more related to your 
network, not the VRS?


The only 2 things I would want to change is to give it Bluetooth 
connectivity and more internal storage. Other than that it's my 
favorite hardware audio player.


At 08:32 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of 
a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good 
set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm 
going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an 
external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is conveni

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread Laz
Hi Gera,

You can lurk as long as you want. (smile)

Laz

On 5/2/17, Gerardo Corripio <gera1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And do you have to buy or sale something to be on, or could I just go on
> and see if I someday find an interesting item I'd like to buy or sale?
> El 02/05/2017 a las 10:18 a.m., Laz escribió:
>> Send a blank message to blind-bst+subscr...@groups.io
>>
>> It has over 450 members and going strong.
>>
>> Laz
>>
>> On 5/1/17, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff,
>>> anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for
>>> Blind devices?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>> Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though
>>>> I've had it for only 24 hours.
>>>>
>>>> I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient
>>>> device to use - but it doesn't suit me.
>>>>
>>>> I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know
>>>> exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really
>>>> like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of
>>>> that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected
>>>> to the Internet.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway now I know .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>>>> I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being
>>>>> "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a
>>>>> 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set
>>>>> of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going
>>>>> to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external
>>>>> speaker or headphones!
>>>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Dane Trethowan
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>>>
>>>>> I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
>>>>> audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
>>>>> again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.
>>>>>
>>>>> The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
>>>>> playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality
>>>>> of
>>>>> audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
>>>>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
>>>>>> in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
>>>>>> reception is poor.
>>>>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
>>>>>> package.
>>>>>> Evan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
>>>>>> purchase.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
>>>>>> most respects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however -
>>>>>> having
>>>>>> already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit
>>>>>> of an
>>>>>> annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
>>>>>> hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
>>>>>> about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bl

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread Gerardo Corripio
And do you have to buy or sale something to be on, or could I just go on 
and see if I someday find an interesting item I'd like to buy or sale?

El 02/05/2017 a las 10:18 a.m., Laz escribió:

Send a blank message to blind-bst+subscr...@groups.io

It has over 450 members and going strong.

Laz

On 5/1/17, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff,
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for
Blind devices?


On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though
I've had it for only 24 hours.

I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.

I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really
like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of
that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected
to the Internet.

Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a
6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set
of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going
to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however -
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit
of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its
good to
know I have a reliable backup.





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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread Hamit Campos

Ah okay, thanks.


On 5/2/2017 11:18 AM, Laz wrote:

Send a blank message to blind-bst+subscr...@groups.io

It has over 450 members and going strong.

Laz

On 5/1/17, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff,
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for
Blind devices?


On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though
I've had it for only 24 hours.

I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.

I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really
like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of
that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected
to the Internet.

Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a
6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set
of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going
to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however -
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit
of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its
good to
know I have a reliable backup.





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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread Laz
Send a blank message to blind-bst+subscr...@groups.io

It has over 450 members and going strong.

Laz

On 5/1/17, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff,
> anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for
> Blind devices?
>
>
> On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though
>> I've had it for only 24 hours.
>>
>> I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient
>> device to use - but it doesn't suit me.
>>
>> I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know
>> exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really
>> like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of
>> that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected
>> to the Internet.
>>
>> Anyway now I know .
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>>> I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being
>>> "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a
>>> 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set
>>> of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going
>>> to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external
>>> speaker or headphones!
>>> Tom Kaufman
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Dane Trethowan
>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>
>>> I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
>>> audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
>>> again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.
>>>
>>> The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
>>> playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
>>> audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
>>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
>>>> some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
>>>> in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
>>>> reception is poor.
>>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
>>>> package.
>>>> Evan
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
>>>> purchase.
>>>>
>>>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
>>>> most respects.
>>>>
>>>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however -
>>>> having
>>>> already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit
>>>> of an
>>>> annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
>>>> hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
>>>> about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
>>>> product can't have everythint.
>>>>
>>>> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
>>>> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
>>>> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
>>>> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
>>>> well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.
>>>>
>>>> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
>>>> and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
>>>> I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
>>>> sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
>>>> entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.
>>>>
>>>> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
>>>> downlaoded a couple of books.
>>>>
>>>> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
>>>> the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
>>>> read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its
>>>> good to
>>>> know I have a reliable backup.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread Hamit Campos

Ah okay.


On 5/2/2017 10:16 AM, john schwery wrote:

Hamit, I'm not sure.  BSt is mostly American.

At 10:02 AM 5/2/2017, you wrote:

Are these UK lists though? Cause the Roil Post sounds like a UK thing.


On 5/2/2017 6:58 AM, john schwery wrote:
Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post.  Both are 
for buying, selling and trading.


At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, 
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an 
EBay for Blind devices?



On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound 
of a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a 
good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But 
no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much 
prefer an external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf 
Of Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker 
for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but 
then

again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the 
quality of

audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and 
those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
transceiver

in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that 
little

package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment 
on my

purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it 
is in

most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however 
- having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a 
bit of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
guess a

product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the 
"Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up 
to date,

well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR 
Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for 
that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a 
great

entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use 
myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even 
though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its 
good to

know I have a reliable backup.




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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread john schwery

Hamit, I'm not sure.  BSt is mostly American.

At 10:02 AM 5/2/2017, you wrote:

Are these UK lists though? Cause the Roil Post sounds like a UK thing.


On 5/2/2017 6:58 AM, john schwery wrote:
Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post.  Both are 
for buying, selling and trading.


At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, 
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an 
EBay for Blind devices?



On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even 
though I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and 
convenient device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit 
behaves when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound 
of a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or 
a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But 
no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much 
prefer an external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf 
Of Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.




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Re: SV: SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread Dane Trethowan

And that'ts the point.

On an iPhone etc its very enjoyable to listen to music from that 
internal speaker - no not excellent quality - but far better than it 
used to be.




On 2/05/2017 8:12 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi Dane,
Agree totally.
It's usable for speech, but hopeless when it comes to music.

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 2. maj 2017 08:31
Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Emne: Re: SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Indeed it was bad and at the very least the 2ND generation is quite an 
improvement but not as good as it really ought to be compared to other stuff 
out there, even the basic phones have very nice sounding internal speakers.



On 2/05/2017 4:20 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi.
Wow then you should have heard the first generation. Grin It was
really really bad!

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Tom
Kaufman
Sendt: 2. maj 2017 01:29
Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having 
said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it 
into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But 
no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external 
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, 
all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has 
always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is 
a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the 
headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those
of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi
transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says
that reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however -
having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a
bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small
BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost
me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but
I guess a product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to
date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream
box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so
forth
- I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for
that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a
great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself
but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even
though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site
its good to know I have a reliable backup.





--

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were 
going to live forever"




Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread Hamit Campos

Are these UK lists though? Cause the Roil Post sounds like a UK thing.


On 5/2/2017 6:58 AM, john schwery wrote:
Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post.  Both are 
for buying, selling and trading.


At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, 
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay 
for Blind devices?



On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of 
a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good 
set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm 
going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an 
external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the 
quality of

audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and 
those of

some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit 
of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
guess a

product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
date,

well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream 
box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
forth -

I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a 
great

entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself 
but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even 
though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its 
good to

know I have a reliable backup.





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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread Hamit Campos

Ah cool. Thanks.


On 5/2/2017 6:58 AM, john schwery wrote:
Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post.  Both are 
for buying, selling and trading.


At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, 
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay 
for Blind devices?



On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of 
a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good 
set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm 
going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an 
external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the 
quality of

audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and 
those of

some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit 
of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
guess a

product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
date,

well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream 
box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
forth -

I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a 
great

entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself 
but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even 
though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its 
good to

know I have a reliable backup.





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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread john schwery
Hamit, 2 lists I can think of are BST and The Royal Post.  Both are 
for buying, selling and trading.


At 11:25 PM 5/1/2017, you wrote:
Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, 
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay 
for Blind devices?



On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I 
really like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the 
quality of that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves 
when connected to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of 
a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a 
good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But 
no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much 
prefer an external speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.





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SV: SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi Dane,
Agree totally.
It's usable for speech, but hopeless when it comes to music.

Brian

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Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 2. maj 2017 08:31
Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Emne: Re: SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Indeed it was bad and at the very least the 2ND generation is quite an 
improvement but not as good as it really ought to be compared to other stuff 
out there, even the basic phones have very nice sounding internal speakers.



On 2/05/2017 4:20 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:
> Hi.
> Wow then you should have heard the first generation. Grin It was 
> really really bad!
>
> Brian
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Tom 
> Kaufman
> Sendt: 2. maj 2017 01:29
> Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having 
> said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio!  If you 
> plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty 
> good sound!  But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd 
> much prefer an external speaker or headphones!
> Tom Kaufman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, 
> all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio 
> has always been a problem with the Stream.
>
> The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - 
> is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the 
> headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.
>
>
>
> On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those 
>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says 
>> that reception is poor.
>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little 
>> package.
>> Evan
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my 
>> purchase.
>>
>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in 
>> most respects.
>>
>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
>> having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a 
>> bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small 
>> BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost 
>> me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but 
>> I guess a product can't have everythint.
>>
>> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have 
>> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow 
>> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for 
>> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
>> date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.
>>
>> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream 
>> box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so 
>> forth
>> - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for 
>> that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a 
>> great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.
>>
>> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I 
>> downlaoded a couple of books.
>>
>> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself 
>> but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even 
>> though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site 
>> its good to know I have a reliable backup.
>>
>>
>>

-- 

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you 
were going to live forever"






Re: SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread Dane Trethowan
Indeed it was bad and at the very least the 2ND generation is quite an 
improvement but not as good as it really ought to be compared to other 
stuff out there, even the basic phones have very nice sounding internal 
speakers.




On 2/05/2017 4:20 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi.
Wow then you should have heard the first generation. Grin
It was really really bad!

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Tom Kaufman
Sendt: 2. maj 2017 01:29
Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having 
said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it 
into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But 
no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external 
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, 
all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has 
always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is 
a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the 
headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however -
having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a
bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small
BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost
me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I
guess a product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to
date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth
- I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for
that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a
great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though
I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its
good to know I have a reliable backup.





--

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were 
going to live forever"




SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-02 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi.
Wow then you should have heard the first generation. Grin
It was really really bad!

Brian

-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Tom Kaufman
Sendt: 2. maj 2017 01:29
Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having 
said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio!  If you 
plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty 
good sound!  But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd 
much prefer an external speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for audio, 
all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then again audio has 
always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as playback - is 
a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of audio from the 
headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of 
> some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver 
> in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that 
> reception is poor.
> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little 
> package.
> Evan
>
> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> Hi!
>
> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my 
> purchase.
>
> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in 
> most respects.
>
> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
> having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a 
> bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small 
> BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost 
> me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I 
> guess a product can't have everythint.
>
> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have 
> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow 
> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for 
> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to 
> date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.
>
> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box 
> and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth 
> - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for 
> that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a 
> great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.
>
> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I 
> downlaoded a couple of books.
>
> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but 
> the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though 
> I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its 
> good to know I have a reliable backup.
>
>
>

-- 

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you 
were going to live forever"







Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah like I said the 1 thing I give the victors is the fact that they 
play a whole bunch of formats. But what's the point of it being able to 
play FLAC for instance if the speaker ain't hi fy enough nor are the 
headphone pres? Meh maybe I'm just too spoiled by Bose. Cause when I 
brought out my PTR1 just for fun last summer it was kinda meh to my 
ears. But The Victors are still more meh to me. Saddly even the Strattus 
that I have. I've not heard the Stream 2. So who really knows about that 
1. But for books maybe they're okay.



On 5/1/2017 11:41 PM, JOHN RIEHL wrote:

I have the Victor Stream 2nd gen; this is my third. For what I use it for -- 
reading books -- it's great! I can create .mp3 files of books using K1000 or 
download talking books or audible books. I don't use the wireless feature. You 
can connect an external speaker using a patch cord; it works great! I use the 
In-motion speaker; I have my Victor connected to it. I also use headphones or 
the little internal speaker. It isn't perfect; I'd love for it to have 
Bluetooth. But I'm quite happy with my Stream.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah the audio is kinda meh. You're right Dain. An IOS device and or
especially a samsung device do sound better. Ah I can hear the apple
fans now. How dare you? Did you just dare with a streight face tell me a
samsung device sounds loads better than an IPhone? Yeah I did. Kinda off
this topic but I noted the difference with my nephew Jonathan's note
phone. Now the quality thing. Could thhis be cause it's for DAISY books
for the most part? But I'm not sure about that cause Plextalk is better.
The PTP1 sounded better to me when I saw them at the NFB national
convention in 2013. I was also shocked that the PTP1 aka the Plextalk
pocket looks so much like it's a mini PTR1. But then to get back to the
topic at hand well at the time at least the streem 1 was such a
prediction of the Strattus players. How does the Streem do connected to
an external speaker though? To me the headphone pres of the strattus and
the Clasic ain't that good.They too are meh. Exeptable I suppose but meh
not hi fy.


On 5/1/2017 8:09 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

If you have nothing to compare the speaker of the VR Stream to then
yep its probably very good audio however I have plenty of devices
around my house - roughly the same size - which I can compare the
Stream to and - given that - I can tell you that audio from the
internal speaker of the Stream is not good, is muffled and should be -
in my view - better than it is given other basic devices are these days.

You mention listening to music through headphones etc and you're quite
right as you get the full benefit of better audio however I do invite
you - if you haven't already done so - to listen to music through the
internal speaker of say an iPhone 6S or a Samsung Galaxy S6 and you'll
soon hear a huge difference.

Again no, not an ideal listening environment but its certainly a vast
improvement on what the Stream gives you and through a smaller speaker.

I will say however that the audio from the second generation of stream
is quite an improvement upon that of the first generation.



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a
6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set
of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going
to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to ma

RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread JOHN RIEHL
I have the Victor Stream 2nd gen; this is my third. For what I use it for -- 
reading books -- it's great! I can create .mp3 files of books using K1000 or 
download talking books or audible books. I don't use the wireless feature. You 
can connect an external speaker using a patch cord; it works great! I use the 
In-motion speaker; I have my Victor connected to it. I also use headphones or 
the little internal speaker. It isn't perfect; I'd love for it to have 
Bluetooth. But I'm quite happy with my Stream. 

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah the audio is kinda meh. You're right Dain. An IOS device and or 
especially a samsung device do sound better. Ah I can hear the apple 
fans now. How dare you? Did you just dare with a streight face tell me a 
samsung device sounds loads better than an IPhone? Yeah I did. Kinda off 
this topic but I noted the difference with my nephew Jonathan's note 
phone. Now the quality thing. Could thhis be cause it's for DAISY books 
for the most part? But I'm not sure about that cause Plextalk is better. 
The PTP1 sounded better to me when I saw them at the NFB national 
convention in 2013. I was also shocked that the PTP1 aka the Plextalk 
pocket looks so much like it's a mini PTR1. But then to get back to the 
topic at hand well at the time at least the streem 1 was such a 
prediction of the Strattus players. How does the Streem do connected to 
an external speaker though? To me the headphone pres of the strattus and 
the Clasic ain't that good.They too are meh. Exeptable I suppose but meh 
not hi fy.


On 5/1/2017 8:09 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> If you have nothing to compare the speaker of the VR Stream to then 
> yep its probably very good audio however I have plenty of devices 
> around my house - roughly the same size - which I can compare the 
> Stream to and - given that - I can tell you that audio from the 
> internal speaker of the Stream is not good, is muffled and should be - 
> in my view - better than it is given other basic devices are these days.
>
> You mention listening to music through headphones etc and you're quite 
> right as you get the full benefit of better audio however I do invite 
> you - if you haven't already done so - to listen to music through the 
> internal speaker of say an iPhone 6S or a Samsung Galaxy S6 and you'll 
> soon hear a huge difference.
>
> Again no, not an ideal listening environment but its certainly a vast 
> improvement on what the Stream gives you and through a smaller speaker.
>
> I will say however that the audio from the second generation of stream 
> is quite an improvement upon that of the first generation.
>
>
>
> On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>> I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
>> "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 
>> 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set 
>> of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going 
>> to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external 
>> speaker or headphones!
>> Tom Kaufman
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>> I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
>> audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
>> again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.
>>
>> The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
>> playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
>> audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
>>> some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
>>> in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
>>> reception is poor.
>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
>>> package.
>>> Evan
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on 

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah that's another point. Why would you listen to music with that 1 
mono speaker anyways? I'd use ear buds at least. Just cause music is stereo.



On 5/1/2017 7:28 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having 
said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it 
into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But 
no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external 
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.






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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah the audio is kinda meh. You're right Dain. An IOS device and or 
especially a samsung device do sound better. Ah I can hear the apple 
fans now. How dare you? Did you just dare with a streight face tell me a 
samsung device sounds loads better than an IPhone? Yeah I did. Kinda off 
this topic but I noted the difference with my nephew Jonathan's note 
phone. Now the quality thing. Could thhis be cause it's for DAISY books 
for the most part? But I'm not sure about that cause Plextalk is better. 
The PTP1 sounded better to me when I saw them at the NFB national 
convention in 2013. I was also shocked that the PTP1 aka the Plextalk 
pocket looks so much like it's a mini PTR1. But then to get back to the 
topic at hand well at the time at least the streem 1 was such a 
prediction of the Strattus players. How does the Streem do connected to 
an external speaker though? To me the headphone pres of the strattus and 
the Clasic ain't that good.They too are meh. Exeptable I suppose but meh 
not hi fy.



On 5/1/2017 8:09 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
If you have nothing to compare the speaker of the VR Stream to then 
yep its probably very good audio however I have plenty of devices 
around my house - roughly the same size - which I can compare the 
Stream to and - given that - I can tell you that audio from the 
internal speaker of the Stream is not good, is muffled and should be - 
in my view - better than it is given other basic devices are these days.


You mention listening to music through headphones etc and you're quite 
right as you get the full benefit of better audio however I do invite 
you - if you haven't already done so - to listen to music through the 
internal speaker of say an iPhone 6S or a Samsung Galaxy S6 and you'll 
soon hear a huge difference.


Again no, not an ideal listening environment but its certainly a vast 
improvement on what the Stream gives you and through a smaller speaker.


I will say however that the audio from the second generation of stream 
is quite an improvement upon that of the first generation.




On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 
6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set 
of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going 
to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external 
speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit 
of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah what did ya do with it? On the subject of getting rid of stuff, 
anyone know someware where people sell stuff like this? Like an EBay for 
Blind devices?



On 5/1/2017 8:32 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though 
I've had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really 
like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of 
that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected 
to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
"muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 
6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set 
of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going 
to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external 
speaker or headphones!

Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit 
of an

annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its 
good to

know I have a reliable backup.








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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Actually I've decided to rid myself of the VR Stream - even though I've 
had it for only 24 hours.


I stand by what I said about the VR Stream - a nice and convenient 
device to use - but it doesn't suit me.


I don't regret buying the Stream of course, now I have one I know 
exactly what all the fuss is about concerning this device and I really 
like the comprehensive feature set, I just don't like the quality of 
that internla speaker and the slow way the unit behaves when connected 
to the Internet.


Anyway now I know .



On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having 
said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it 
into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But 
no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external 
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.





--

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were 
going to live forever"




Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
If you have nothing to compare the speaker of the VR Stream to then yep 
its probably very good audio however I have plenty of devices around my 
house - roughly the same size - which I can compare the Stream to and - 
given that - I can tell you that audio from the internal speaker of the 
Stream is not good, is muffled and should be - in my view - better than 
it is given other basic devices are these days.


You mention listening to music through headphones etc and you're quite 
right as you get the full benefit of better audio however I do invite 
you - if you haven't already done so - to listen to music through the 
internal speaker of say an iPhone 6S or a Samsung Galaxy S6 and you'll 
soon hear a huge difference.


Again no, not an ideal listening environment but its certainly a vast 
improvement on what the Stream gives you and through a smaller speaker.


I will say however that the audio from the second generation of stream 
is quite an improvement upon that of the first generation.




On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:

I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having 
said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it 
into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But 
no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external 
speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:

As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
package.
Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.





--

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were 
going to live forever"




RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Tom Kaufman
I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being "muffled"...having 
said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 6-transistor radio!  If you 
plug it into a good speaker or a good set of headphones, you do get a pretty 
good sound!  But no...if I'm going to listen to any music on that thing, I'd 
much prefer an external speaker or headphones!
Tom Kaufman

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for 
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then 
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.

The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as 
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of 
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.



On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of 
> some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver 
> in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that 
> reception is poor.
> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little 
> package.
> Evan
>
> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> Hi!
>
> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
> purchase.
>
> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
> most respects.
>
> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
> already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
> annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
> hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
> about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
> product can't have everythint.
>
> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
> well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.
>
> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
> and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
> I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
> sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
> entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.
>
> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
> downlaoded a couple of books.
>
> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
> the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
> read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
> know I have a reliable backup.
>
>
>

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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Dane Trethowan

Couple of points here.

If you don't have devices working simultaneously on your network then 
its hard to draw comparisons with the Stream, I mean if its the only 
device you have then you're probably over the moon that the Stream can 
download anything at all!


As for your super fast network? Well I sincerely hope you didn't just 
purchase this for the benefit of your Victor Reader Stream because - if 
you did - then you certainly will require a reality check ., I 
have download speeds here of around 11.5MB per second and there's 
absolutely no way the Stream would even take advantage of 10% of that 
bandwidth capacity.




On 2/05/2017 2:59 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report 
on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon 
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player 
won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as 
some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this is just 
now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time 
now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I 
skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm 
not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.







On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those 
of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says 
that reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little 
package.

Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.








--

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were 
going to live forever"




Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for 
audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then 
again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.


The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as 
playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of 
audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.




On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of 
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver 
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that 
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little 
package.

Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.





--

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were 
going to live forever"




SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi,
Agree.

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Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I love my Victor Stream. 
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet 
radio stations.


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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't 
have the issue or they just axepted it.


On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
> I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report 
> on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon 
> Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player 
> won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as 
> some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this is just 
> now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time 
> now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I 
> skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm 
> not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those 
>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says 
>> that reception is poor.
>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little 
>> package.
>> Evan
>>
>> -Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
>> purchase.
>>
>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
>> most respects.
>>
>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
>> already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
>> annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
>> hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
>> about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
>> product can't have everythint.
>>
>> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
>> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
>> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
>> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
>> well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.
>>
>> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
>> and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
>> I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
>> sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
>> entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.
>>
>> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
>> downlaoded a couple of books.
>>
>> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
>> the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
>> read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
>> know I have a reliable backup.
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Peter Scanlon
I love my Victor Stream. 
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet 
radio stations.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't 
have the issue or they just axepted it.


On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
> I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report 
> on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon 
> Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player 
> won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as 
> some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this is just 
> now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time 
> now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I 
> skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm 
> not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those 
>> of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
>> transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says 
>> that reception is poor.
>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little 
>> package.
>> Evan
>>
>> -Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
>> purchase.
>>
>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
>> most respects.
>>
>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
>> already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
>> annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
>> hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
>> about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
>> product can't have everythint.
>>
>> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
>> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
>> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
>> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
>> well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.
>>
>> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
>> and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
>> I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
>> sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
>> entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.
>>
>> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
>> downlaoded a couple of books.
>>
>> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
>> the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
>> read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
>> know I have a reliable backup.
>>
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Hamit Campos
Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either 
didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.



On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report 
on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon 
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the player 
won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as 
some of you guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this is just 
now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time 
now.  I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I 
skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm 
not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.







On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those 
of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi 
transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says 
that reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little 
package.

Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.









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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Chris Skarstad
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report on 
it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon Fios, so 
downloading books manually and transfering them to the player won't be 
an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as some of you 
guys say they are.  I'm kind of shocked that this is just now coming up, 
as the new generation stream has been out for some time now.  I thought 
this would've been mentioned sooner, but maybe I skipped over it as I 
wasn't in the market for one at that time, i'm not sure.  I'll certainly 
let you guys know my experiences.







On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of 
some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver 
in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that 
reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little 
package.

Evan

-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.








Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Evan Reese
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of some 
friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver in it. Even 
when I'm close to my router, it usually says that reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little 
package.

Evan

-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.



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you were going to live forever"







Re: SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Hamit Campos

What unets are these you say have better WIFI then the Streem 2?


On 5/1/2017 11:24 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:

Hi,
Oh no it doesnt.
I bet they don't wanna host the intire world's streaming load. Smile
And some libraries have a super bad transfer speed. Like the Danish one. Grin
But to be honest this baby now is quite some years old, so what can we expect?
But it reports bad connection quality, where all other units shows lots of 
signal.

Best regards
Brian

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Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Emne: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

In addition to what you said about the slow download speed of the Victor stream 
second generation, I feel that the chip for the wireless receiver could be more 
sensitive. Another thing I believe is that the internet streams seem to go 
through a server controlled by Humanware for the most part. If there is a 
problem for some reason with there server, the machine locks up even though you 
are connected to your router. that being said, it seems to be the best all 
around device in it's class for the money!


-Original Message-
From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most 
respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having 
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an 
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held 
amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, 
pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have 
everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that the 
downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I have on my 
network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the 
firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a 
lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't 
bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - 
but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world 
of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a 
couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the 
Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my 
newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a 
reliable backup.






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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Hamit Campos
That is the yick thing for me with Blind devices. They don't make them 
truely powerfull. Well I'm more a plextalk guy then Victor. So I've 
always had bones with them. In 06 when they made the PTR2 they didn't do 
loads of things that would've made it epic. For starters the USB 1.1 
thingy. Dude USB 2 was a thing in 2006 was it not? Also the CF card 
thing. Dude really only 6 GB? Get rid of that limit homies. Now as I was 
bairly getting into the geeky stuff about computers I don't know how hi 
Compact Flash cards went then. Believe it or not, the PTR2 is still sold 
to this day just like that. Not sure how the Pocket is as I've not 
messed with it. I do have a Strattus 12M as we were origenally talking 
Victors. Meh it's what it is. I will giv it this though it can play the 
FS JAWS DVDs. Oh and Victors also play the ITunes N4A format. Which is 
another bone to pick with Plextalk. I like them more. Plextalks sound 
clearer to me. The speakers always seemed to have better frequency 
responce. Sure now they are kinda ick to me now that I've been spoiled 
with Bose quality. lol



On 5/1/2017 11:25 AM, Aidan wrote:

Yes but that shouldn't be an excuse. These companies must wake up. I
no of a manufacture who does allot better in hardware and wich players
wifi is much stronger. Soon it will be able to record internet radio
and its much cheaper. Also humanware is very slow to update, fix bugs,
and new features. All new promts are now spoken by heather, though
they claim the stream is one of the players with human speech, well
these days they may just as well remove the human voice altogether,
since they don't seem to want to change these promts to speak with it
any longer.

On 01/05/2017, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:

Ah! well you've probably hit the nail right on the head when it comes to
the download speed if everything goes through the Humanware server.

Yep, the Wireless chip seems a little outdated but after all! we're
talking all things Humanware and for the blind here aren't we .



On 2/05/2017 12:43 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:

In addition to what you said about the slow download speed of the
Victor stream second generation, I feel that the chip for the wireless
receiver could be more sensitive. Another thing I believe is that the
internet streams seem to go through a server controlled by Humanware
for the most part. If there is a problem for some reason with there
server, the machine locks up even though you are connected to your
router. that being said, it seems to be the best all around device in
it's class for the money!


-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.




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SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Brian Olesen
Hi,
Oh no it doesnt.
I bet they don't wanna host the intire world's streaming load. Smile
And some libraries have a super bad transfer speed. Like the Danish one. Grin
But to be honest this baby now is quite some years old, so what can we expect?
But it reports bad connection quality, where all other units shows lots of 
signal.

Best regards
Brian

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Sendt: 1. maj 2017 16:44
Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Emne: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

In addition to what you said about the slow download speed of the Victor stream 
second generation, I feel that the chip for the wireless receiver could be more 
sensitive. Another thing I believe is that the internet streams seem to go 
through a server controlled by Humanware for the most part. If there is a 
problem for some reason with there server, the machine locks up even though you 
are connected to your router. that being said, it seems to be the best all 
around device in it's class for the money!


-Original Message-
From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most 
respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having 
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an 
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held 
amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, 
pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have 
everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that 
the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I 
have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to 
that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I 
guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a 
lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't 
bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - 
but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world 
of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a 
couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the 
Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my 
newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a 
reliable backup.



-- 

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you 
were going to live forever"






Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Aidan
Yes but that shouldn't be an excuse. These companies must wake up. I
no of a manufacture who does allot better in hardware and wich players
wifi is much stronger. Soon it will be able to record internet radio
and its much cheaper. Also humanware is very slow to update, fix bugs,
and new features. All new promts are now spoken by heather, though
they claim the stream is one of the players with human speech, well
these days they may just as well remove the human voice altogether,
since they don't seem to want to change these promts to speak with it
any longer.

On 01/05/2017, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> Ah! well you've probably hit the nail right on the head when it comes to
> the download speed if everything goes through the Humanware server.
>
> Yep, the Wireless chip seems a little outdated but after all! we're
> talking all things Humanware and for the blind here aren't we .
>
>
>
> On 2/05/2017 12:43 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
>> In addition to what you said about the slow download speed of the
>> Victor stream second generation, I feel that the chip for the wireless
>> receiver could be more sensitive. Another thing I believe is that the
>> internet streams seem to go through a server controlled by Humanware
>> for the most part. If there is a problem for some reason with there
>> server, the machine locks up even though you are connected to your
>> router. that being said, it seems to be the best all around device in
>> it's class for the money!
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
>> purchase.
>>
>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
>> most respects.
>>
>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
>> already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
>> annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
>> hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
>> about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
>> product can't have everythint.
>>
>> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
>> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
>> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
>> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
>> well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.
>>
>> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
>> and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
>> I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
>> sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
>> entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.
>>
>> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
>> downlaoded a couple of books.
>>
>> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
>> the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
>> read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
>> know I have a reliable backup.
>>
>>
>>
>
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> you were going to live forever"
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Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Dane Trethowan
Ah! well you've probably hit the nail right on the head when it comes to 
the download speed if everything goes through the Humanware server.


Yep, the Wireless chip seems a little outdated but after all! we're 
talking all things Humanware and for the blind here aren't we .




On 2/05/2017 12:43 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:
In addition to what you said about the slow download speed of the 
Victor stream second generation, I feel that the chip for the wireless 
receiver could be more sensitive. Another thing I believe is that the 
internet streams seem to go through a server controlled by Humanware 
for the most part. If there is a problem for some reason with there 
server, the machine locks up even though you are connected to your 
router. that being said, it seems to be the best all around device in 
it's class for the money!



-Original Message- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.





--

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were 
going to live forever"




Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Gary Schindler
In addition to what you said about the slow download speed of the Victor 
stream second generation, I feel that the chip for the wireless receiver 
could be more sensitive. Another thing I believe is that the internet 
streams seem to go through a server controlled by Humanware for the most 
part. If there is a problem for some reason with there server, the machine 
locks up even though you are connected to your router. that being said, it 
seems to be the best all around device in it's class for the money!



-Original Message- 
From: Dane Trethowan

Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to
know I have a reliable backup.



--

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if 
you were going to live forever"





SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Brian Olesen
HI,
And don't forget the wonderful battery life, when you're on the go.

Brian

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Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan
Sendt: 1. maj 2017 16:25
Til: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Emne: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in most 
respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having 
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an 
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden hand-held 
amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, 
pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have 
everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have noticed that 
the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow compared to other devices I 
have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to 
that - the firmware is up to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I 
guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a 
lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't 
bother using - given I already have better solutions for that sort of thing - 
but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great entry level to the world 
of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I downlaoded a 
couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the 
Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I read all my 
newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to know I have a 
reliable backup.



-- 

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you 
were going to live forever"






Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Matthew Bullis
OK, that brings up a question. Whenever I try to add credentials to
the ABWA Australian library, the Stream only accepts numbers in my
user id. I got this username several years ago when Greg was
publicizing the access for users in the U.S. Are new usernames now
numbers, and should I contact someone to get it changed?
Thanks,
Matthew



Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

2017-05-01 Thread Dane Trethowan

Hi!

I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my 
purchase.


Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in 
most respects.


The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having 
already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit of an 
annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden 
hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25 
about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a 
product can't have everythint.


Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have 
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow 
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for 
Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date, 
well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.


There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box 
and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - 
I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that 
sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great 
entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.


Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I 
downlaoded a couple of books.


Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but 
the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I 
read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its good to 
know I have a reliable backup.




--

**
"Live each day as if you were goiing to die tomorrow, learn each day as if you were 
going to live forever"