The only camera I own that is a pro for sure is a Leica M6, but I
keep its pretension at bay by putting Russian lenses on it :-)
Juan! You've got it the wrong way around. It's the Leitz lenses that you
should be putting on a Russian body. I wish I could afford an M6. I have
a CL coming with a
But in my books, two year's use before the thing
starts becoming useless without hundreds of pound's worth of repairs (and
no obvious interest in taking it any further) is complete crapola.
Don't buy a Polaroid, get the Coolscan!
That may be good advice, but the lifespan of scanners seems
Chris B writes:
From what I've heard about LX's, this isn't a bad idea. For some reason,
LX's and MX's seem to have more problems than most Pentax bodies, though
I'm sure there are the usual exceptions that prove the rule. :)
I have two MX's, both black. One was bought new in 1980 (one of a
For MX lovers, found this interesting website which has some good
brochure pics, and good data. In French, but easily navigable. Note the
page listing the MX screens.
http://perso.club-internet.fr/jvila/pentax.html
Cheers,
Cotty
- - "Detail of Sign, Snowdon, Wales, 2000", by Cotty. Good eye for detail.
Copyright mark a bit too overwhelming for me though :-)
(I noticed that most pictures now include some sort of copyright)
Yes, ahem. I was trying to make a visual statement here, er, reading all
this stuff about Image
John is going digital!
What I need help with is the computer. Right now, my
home computer is a 386. I want to replace it, but
cost is a major concern.
For goodness sake man, get a Mac!
Keeping in mind cost and the fact that I can upgrade
later, what should I be thinking about in terms of RAM
Peter asks:
I have an MX that drains batteries even when it's not in use. After about
two weeks in the camera, the batteries are down to half a volt from their
original 1.5. The meter works fine, otherwise. I have checked it, and the
problem is not that the LEDs stay on. They turn off
This may or may not be of help. I once had an MX that had this fault: the
shutter release, as you know, is 2-stage meaning that on first
depression the meter is activated (and therefore the LEDs), and on final
depression, the shutter is released. With the manual wind-on lever in a
stand-off
We're going on a trip to London in March and have about 10 days to visit.
One; I was wondering if anyone has a good store to recommend for new/used
Pentax gear (I saw one on the list a few days ago and have put it down on
my list) and Two; Are there any good photo shows going on now in
Hi listers,
I notice the Pentax A 85mm f1.4 lens on eBay - could anyone please share
what they think this lens should cost? What a realistic price [in US
dollars] for it would be? What they think it will probably go for in the
end? What they think would be silly money?
We all know how silly
Hi,
If anyone out there in Pentaxland has any experience using a Motor Drive
MX with a NiCad Pack LX - read on please.
The two units line up well, and according to Boz's site are compatible.
But when I tried a newly aquired but used NiCad Pack LX on a newly
aquired but used Motor Drive MX,
Hi PXers,
First of all, can I thank those listers that responded very kindly with
helpful suggestions regarding buzzing sounds emanating from a Motor Drive
MX attached to a NiCad Pack LX. Your input was superb and I've now found
the problem.
For anyone interested, I opened up the NiCad Pack,
The part number is PQXA36ASVC and are UKP 7.50 each. Direct order line is
01280 823 523 (UK telephone) if this helps anyone.
The updated part number is PQXA36SVC and are UKP 11.34 each. Fortunately
the suppliers are giving me credit for the wrong parts after I mail them
back. The new ones
Don't know if there are any other Mac users on the list with Minolta's Scan
Dual II USB scanner, but Ed Hamrick's Vuescan finally does Mac USB!
Hmmm. Nope. Can't think of any...
=)
Cotty
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The trauma, er story so far...
Having spent the better part of a couple of hours with a phone glued to
my earhole, I am now under the impression that Sanyo Cadnica 1.2 volt 225
maH cells are impossible to come by here in the UK.
The best phone call was to Pentax UK's repair division. There, a
Hi listers,
On the subject of lens hoods, does anyone know if Tokina ever made a
plastic (or metal, for that matter) 'grippy-type' push-on lens hood in
67mm diameter size? The part designation would (should) be something
like: SH-671 or similar. For instance, I have the Tokina ATX 80-200 f2.8
Just a quick one - an MX and winder, plus 50mm f1.2 'as new' lurking
under a generic 'pentax camera' subject line.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1222073605
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Just a quick one - an MX and winder, plus 50mm f1.2 'as new' lurking
under a generic 'pentax camera' subject line.
The seller calls it the f1:2 (i.e. the f2.0), not the f1.2.
The lens shown in the photograph certainly only looks like the f2.
But an MX in reasonably good shape, plus a
Hi Listers, especially UK ones...
Does anyone know of a really decent camera shop in the UK, preferably in
the south of England, preferably anywhere between London and Bristol,
that has:
1/ A really good selection of gear, large shop with plenty of room, major
makes, 35mm and medium format,
My dearly-loved Unix accound is going away... No more elm... I must join
the world of Microsoft... I too will start sending e-mails with senseless
attachments...
Boz, for Finagle's sake, it doesn't need to be like that! There *is* an
alternative...
Cotty
Hi Shel,
I use an Olympus XA-2. It's very small, has a sliding cover for the 35mm
f3.5 Zuiko, built-in lens which means it really does fit in a pocket, has
a fully de-mountable flash, 3-setting focus, ISO dial-in from 25-800,
self-timer, very quiet electronic shutter. Where I go, it goes.
JPEGs are not fragile at all. they are misused by the novice. every
time you save a JPEF file from an image editing program, it
recompresses the image. since JPEG is a lossy compress algorithm, that
means each save throws away more of the image. i set my digital camera
to capture at the least
It is snowing again (what a surprise). Since we seem to be preoccupied
with
what Pentax is or isn't going to do I thought I would revive Cotty's (I
think) practice of commenting on the whole PUG. As usual an overall
excellent group of pictures.
Butch, I take my hat off to you - well done. It
On 10/7/13, Don Guthrie, discombobulated, unleashed:
Recently had an opportunity to photograph a genuine steam engine on the
tracks. I took many pictures and will post some galleries when I get
them up on flicker. Meantime for those who have no moral objections to
Google plus please look at
On 13/7/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
Woke at 3 am with a bit of a headache. Dehydrated, didn't drink enough
water. So while my body assimilated more water and rebalanced itself, I
wandered through some photos taken back in May. This one recalled the
memory of a fine weekend
On 14/7/13, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
G'day all
A couple of weeks ago some late winter fog combined with the setting
sun to produce a golden light that only lasted a matter of minutes.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP4708-
K5-1peso.html
Comments,
I am really trying to get to grips with reportage. Previously I would
have shot from the hip, but I'm forcing myself to stop, look through the
lens and compose. You would have thought that, for someone who regularly
films strangers with a huge TV camera, pointing a small still camera
would be
On 14/7/13, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:
Not sure I like high contrast, but figured I should try it for a while.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/13/07/contrast/index.html
Works for me!
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On 16/7/13, Darren Addy, discombobulated, unleashed:
Pentax FF Announcement 2013
Pentax FF Shipping 2013
Pentax FF Announcement 2014
Pentax FF Shipping 2014
Pentax FF Never
Pentax FF learned firsthand from a trusted source.
Pentax FF learned secondhand from a trusted source
Pentax FF learned from
On 18/7/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9319667018/
K-5, F50/1.7, 1/90 sec., ISO 100, f/5.6
Comments, critiques and suggestions eagerly accepted.
Superb, Walt.
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On 19/7/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9323529288/lightbox
Like it
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On 24/7/13, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:
And here he is at the Old Brewery where we had supper:
http://www.zen50061.zen.co.uk/PDML/DSCF2589.jpg
Still got more hair than me
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On 24/7/13, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
I use the single centre and recompose
It's the only way to fly :)
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On 31/7/13, Gerrit Visser, discombobulated, unleashed:
When I disassemble things I take lots of photos during the process. That way
when 3 months later I try to put it back together there is a reasonable
chance I can figure it out.
My memory is getting so bad I have to photograph where the
On 31/7/13, Igor Roshchin, discombobulated, unleashed:
Alain Laboile, a French photographer and sculptor discovered for himself
photography in 2007 and since that uses it as a way of describing about
his family (2 sons, 4 daughters, and a waife)
Children are now 18, 16, 14, 12, 5 and 4.
On 1/8/13, Bipin Gupta, discombobulated, unleashed:
Hello Steve, it is time you started taking Korean Ginseng to improve
your memory.
Here in India, folks are advised to eat (8) almonds every day and take
a two thousand year old herbal remedy called Shankhpushpi (Canscora
Decussata).
Hmmm I'll
On 3/8/13, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
Etude:
http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/08/2013-34-etude.html
I like that a lot.
Boris, what camera are you using with this Heliar?
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On 4/8/13, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:
Boris, what camera are you using with this Heliar?
Aha Ricoh, got it.
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On 2/8/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
I finally got around to looking at the plane photos I took the night I
photographed the burrowing owl.
They're a bit rougher than I'd like. I was trying to not blow out the
colored lights, so everythng not self illuminated was exposed a bit
On 4/8/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
A shot from this weekend:
http://www.web-options.com/Locomotion.jpg
It's not rocket science is it?
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On 5/8/13, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed:
So, Bob, it is clear now, you've a time machine in your garage and
actually the W in your name comes from Who, or Doctor Who, to whom :-)
you happen to be next of kin :-).
Cycling on Gallifrey is very popular ;-)
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Actually, I really love this one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9418917251/in/set-72157634899968298/
Very evocative of warm summer evenings, going away somewhere on a red-
eye overnight service, the smell of aviation fuel in the nostrils,
amazing sights as you lift into the sly with a
On 5/8/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
Where one person will look at two photos and like the uncluttered
photo of the airplane against the sky, and wonder why I even bothered
showing the photo with the cluttered distracting background, another
person will wonder why I bothered with
On 5/8/13, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:
https://plus.google.com/115347824062413314605/posts/46sU316B2da
Superb!
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On 6/8/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
Just hire Cotty to be your sherpa and carry it for you. The video
business is a bit
slow and he's got nothing better to do than tag along carrying your
camera gear.
For a slight extra charge, he'll even carry your beer for you, and for
not much
He sang a song about it. I just wanna be your toreador. As well as
I'm mooin' on, It's cow or heifer, A little less cownversation,
milkcow blues boogie, Moona Lisa... The hits just keep on comin'
Bob, you put the vaca in vacation.
Perhaps I was milking it a little. I'm udderly sorry about
On 7/8/13, Eric Weir, discombobulated, unleashed:
At this point I'm being sorely temped by the Fujifilm X10. Would feel a
little guilty about sticking with Pentax, though.
Deffo go for the X20 if you can - unless price is crucial.
Not just saying this as some sort of defence, but the current
On 13/8/13, Ralf R. Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:
In my experience, the old Pentaxians are the last people on this planet
who would want a camera in fancyful colours.
For me, you can make it any fanciful colour you like - as long as it's black.
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On 14/8/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
It really helps when dealing with machines to let go of all the
emotional baggage.
I dare you to say that about certain motorcycles ;-)
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On 14/8/13, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed:
Anyone else getting two copies of every email - just from the PDML?
Not here.
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On 14/8/13, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed:
Anyone else getting two copies of every email - just from the PDML?
Not here.
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Sadly there is zero Pentax content in this post! However, I am off on a
stills photo trip tomorrow and thought I would mention it here. This
weekend sees the 50th anniversary celebrations of the Old Gaffers
Association http://oga50.org/) where a large collection of classic
gaff-rigged vessels of
On 14/8/13, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:
Or, in its stark naked form,
http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17495652-lg.jpg
Is that Bob up on the first yard getting a top-shot?
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On 14/8/13, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
Damn! Beat me to it.
You gotta get up pretty early in the morning Sessoms. Actually bloody
early as we're 8 hours ahead ;-)
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On 14/8/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
I was trying to raise the yard-arm so the sun would be below it and we
could all have a drink.
I'll drink to that!
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On 14/8/13, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
I'm sure that's some kind of salacious pun or other low gutter humor
(humour) there, but I haven't figured it out yet.
Why John, anyone would think that there are ulterior motives in my every
sentence.
A top-shot is exactly that. A nice view from a
On 14/8/13, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:
I made a visit to RDU Airport last Saturday. Went out to exercise my
K10D and ended up at the observation deck there. Not really much to see,
but there was a little bit of a thunderstorm passed through I thought
this one was worth playing
http://cottycam.posthaven.com/old-gaffers
A few of my picks from today. Shot a couple of hundred, selected a
couple of dozen for the press officer, and a few here for you
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On 15/8/13, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:
For those unfamiliar with the British press, this old guide might help:
o The Economist is read by the people who run the country
o The Times is read by the people who pretend to run the country
o The Guardian is read by the people
On 15/8/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
Very nice. Looks like a good way to pass the time.
Sadly better would be actually sailing but as they're doing that for the
next three days and I'm off working - - ack!
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On 15/8/13, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed:
Your gaffers are more picturesque :-)
Thanks Anne. The term gaffers in this context refers to a type of
sailing rig commonly used up until the 20th century. The 'gaff' is a
wooden spar (pole) that holds the top side of a four-sided sail.
On 15/8/13, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:
Beautifully exposed and rendered, Cotty. Just think if you had actually
owned that camera. My mind is boggling.
I used to have a 1DmII a few years ago but just wasn't using it as I
concentrated on video. As I near retirement and the video will
On 15/8/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:
I've long thought that if I were to have such a pretty hole in the water
to dump money into, I'd name it Thistle Dew
LOL. Yup :-)
Mine will be called after my late grandmother.
Maude Pye
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On 15/8/13, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:
Specially like #4, Cotty. Have you picked your future investment out yet?
Har! I'd buy this one today if I could:
http://www.woodenships.co.uk/sailing-yachts/gaff-cutter-yacht
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On 16/8/13, Alan C, discombobulated, unleashed:
Wonderfully preserved old ladies - a photographer's mecca. A far cry from my
Enterprise!
Why were the crew of the Enterprise always sick?
Because they had to put up with the captain's logs.
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That's very good!
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On 15/8/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
It went missing for a while. Back now on graph four.
Paul, being really thick here (as we Brits say) - what do you mean by
'graph four' ? I looked for a link to the video and couldn't see one anywhere.
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Pics now with story, plus video (not mine!!) soon:
http://www.itv.com/news/meridian/story/2013-08-16/old-gaffers-50th-
anniversary/
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On 16/8/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
Just look for a sentence in paragraph four that's a live link -- it's
blue -- then click on it. It'll take you to the Youtube video.
Ok thanks - didn't realise these were called 'graphs'. In the UK (AFAIK)
they are just called links :)
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On 16/8/13, Alan C, discombobulated, unleashed:
Another advantage of the gaff rig is that the mainsail, boom gaff can all
be tied together pulled up almost parallel to the mast making the deck
area very uncluttered - good for fishing parties.
LOL! Love it
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On 16/8/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
The link is in graph four, as in paragraph four:-).
AHA
Britspeak is 'Par'
As in taking copy: blah blah blah blah point par blah blah blah...
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/automobiles/on-woodward-forever-young.html
Paul, nice article as ever - GREAT job with the video - very well done.
Gonna buy you a tripod with a pan and tilt head and a couple of radio mics ;-)
Loved it
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On 16/8/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
Yeah, I was thinking about radio mikes. How much do they cost?
shotgun mike is good for the car drive bus and interior work, but clip
ons would be much better for the narration at the opening.
I have a couple of types but a good cost
On 16/8/13, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
Particularly an elderly rustic ... as in, I'll have to ask the gaffer.
We tend to use it to mean the boss. Es the gaffer around mate?
I can visualize Cotty's son Stefan saying that to his friends.
Correct spelling! But I just sprayed coffee on my
On 16/8/13, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
Boats aren't an investment. They're a hole in the water you throw money
into. Gives a whole new meaning to sunk costs.
Capn Sessoms is totally correct. No sailor ever went to sea thinking of
a financial return unless they flew the skull and
On 16/8/13, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:
We tend to use it to mean the boss. Es the gaffer around mate?
Should read Is the gaffer around mate?
Lest anyone think that we lapse into occasional bouts of Spanish inflection.
Eez de gafferrr round mate? We want to kl him! (raucous
On 16/8/13, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
Graphs is newspaper lingo for paragraphs.
Got that boss, I mean gaffer.
Here, we say 'paras' or maybe a 'para'. A graph would be something like this:
http://www.cricages.com/?attachment_id=6538
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On 16/8/13, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
I dunno know? How often do you replace sails. Gettem restitched fer
free do yah?
I steam off the baked bean can labels, glue em together and let loose
with the resulting obnoxious gases.
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On 16/8/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
Bebe tequila, macho.
Bloke stops by a motel near the border with Mexico and wants a room for
the night.
Single or double? asks the manager.
Single, says the man.
1 sheet or 2 on the bed? asks the manager.
It's a warm night, 1 sheet, replies the
On 16/8/13, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
I was thinking son père as the gaffer.
Got ya boss. I mean gaffer, er
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On 16/8/13, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
And so it would be here as well - up in the business office with the
bean counters.
You see, it always comes back to beans ;-)
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I thought these 20 classic mono pics turned into colour were very well done!
http://twistedsifter.com/2013/08/historic-black-white-photos-colorized/
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On 17/8/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
Here's my version:
http://www.web-options.com/Aoco.jpg
I knew it was going to be something er special when I clicked on the link ;-)
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On 17/8/13, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
What do people use for traffic avoidance on the road? Anyone have any
recommendations, positive or negative?
I navigate with an iPhone 4s mounted in a powered cradle high up on the
dash, with Google Maps app displayed, 99% of the time
On 17/8/13, Steve Cottrell, discombobulated, unleashed:
I navigate with an iPhone 4s mounted in a powered cradle high up on the
dash, with Google Maps app displayed, 99% of the time in straightforward
North-is-up plan view. The traffic function is fairly reliable although
it does occasionally
On 20/8/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
No shot of my skinned knee, bloody elbow and broken lens hood:
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/20/the-2013-woodward-dream-
cruise-a-perfect-day-for-cruising/
Superb report and pics as always. That 34 Tudor is really nice :-)
On 20/8/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
Thanks Cotty. I had a '34 Ford Tudor when I was a teen. But it was
fenderless and had a big Pontiac V-8 up front.
Let me guess, it's name was Gibson ;-)
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Thanks Cotty. I had a '34 Ford Tudor when I was a teen. But it was
fenderless and had a big Pontiac V-8 up front.
Let me guess, it's name was Gibson ;-)
I had to think about that one for awhile:-).
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Thanks Cotty. I had a '34 Ford Tudor when I was a teen. But it was
fenderless and had a big Pontiac V-8 up front.
Let me guess, it's name was Gibson ;-)
I had to think about that one for awhile:-).
Don't fret.
The PDML is once again where we guitar puns.
Not one I would have
On 21/8/13, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17504451
Comments are invited.
That's very odd.
Compulsive!
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On 22/8/13, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:
Why exactly do you need full frame? Just curious.
I'm not, nor ever could be, John, but for me - so I can mount my
A*85/1.4 onto it and have it behave like an A*85/1.4 ;-)
Which brings about an interesting proposition. My A*85/1.4 is
On 22/8/13, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:
https://plus.google.com/115347824062413314605/posts/3SvUDez6XNA
Another photo of Anna.
I lied on Facebook, it's shit.
Bastard.
AAARGH.
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https://plus.google.com/115347824062413314605/posts/3SvUDez6XNA
That's one of the best black and white photographs I've seen in a long
time. Love everything about it.
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On 23/8/13, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed:
You'll need an aperture simulator of course (stands back having lit
blue touch paper)
To be honest I'm not that bothered about restoring it's open-aperture
metering functionality. The A*85/1.4 is best used wide open for full
minimal DoF
On 24/8/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
I've finished my Photoshop course textbook. Just in the nick of time,
really. Uploaded last night. Did my copyright registration this
morning. Made the book available for purchase this afternoon. (Oh
yeah, took a year and a half to write
On 26/8/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
http://www.blurb.com/b/4545115-a-semester-of-photoshop
That looks great - good luck with it!
Is there any option to view a page or two inside?
Flash preview is now available at the above link. Blurb Preview shows
chapter synopsis and
On 26/8/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
Awsome - he cites Ken Rockwell as a reference, so it's certain to work,
and come to market.
Therefore I have decided to put my house on the market and give all the
proceeds to this guy, so he can make 2 digipods, and I can use a £30
camera again.
On 26/8/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
Espresso on my birthday morning. Ah, nice!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/9602594016/lightbox
Thanks for looking!
Strangely enticing.
Happy birthday!
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On 26/8/13, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
Regards the electric stove, well, it takes a while to figure it out but
once there it works okay. I'd prefer gas, but can't put in a gas stove
here, unfortunately.
There's plenty of hot air already ;-)
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On 27/8/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
Not until you correct the spelling mistake in our sig.
I'm trying to learn Spanish
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