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Vadim Konovalov wrote: Icelandic: laukur (Incidentally, none of you will ever guess how to correctly pronounce that.) Russian: luk (pronounced similar to English look). For some reason, Icelandic translation of onion is much closer to Russian than any other variants... The English leek is another cognate (as a word, of the laukr; as a plant, of the onion)...
RE: (OT) Re: Perl development server
Icelandic: laukur (Incidentally, none of you will ever guess how to correctly pronounce that.) Russian: luk (pronounced similar to English look). For some reason, Icelandic translation of onion is much closer to Russian than any other variants...
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Hi All! If you want access, please let me know. I will send you a temporary password by e-mail, that I expect you to change the first time you get the chance. May i have an account name nemux ? Thanks! Marco.
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I'd love to have an account as well. username atnnn. realname Etienne Laurin. As for the hostname, what about s6nd.perl6.nl?
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On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 05:18:45PM +0200, Juerd wrote: Everyone who wants, can get a login. Access is provided via SSH version 2 only (Windows users can use PuTTY and WinSCP), and the box may be used for everything that improves Perl 6 development. Users are encouraged to keep files world readable for transparency. If you want access, please let me know. I will send you a temporary password by e-mail, that I expect you to change the first time you get the chance. May I have an account name 'kolibrie'? Please let me know which software you want installed. If it's in Debian and doesn't conflict with other software, you can have it (but no X or openoffice, or the like). If it's not in Debian, you'll have to compile it yourself. I tend to like to have a copy of 'darcs' on-hand, and I really like 'screen'. Thanks for this great service to the Perl6 community! -kolibrie pgpnoqL2uGdL0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 06:51:31PM +0200, Juerd wrote: Nathan Gray skribis 2005-05-23 12:50 (-0400): Sorry, but 'dev' isn't cute enough :). And it's going to be something.perl6.nl, probably. I don't mind aliases, though, but they better be CNAMEs. Juerd, why am I getting everyone's responses, but not your original messages? I have no idea. I'm sending these messages to the two mailing lists, and from there on, I can't track where they're going (or not) Ah, here they all come. p6c must have taken longer than p6l. -kolibrie
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Juerd wrote: If you want access, please let me know. I will send you a temporary password by e-mail, that I expect you to change the first time you get the chance. I would like an account, name 'spinclad'. The need for svn, ghc and such has finally pushed me to upgrade my home debian box to sarge, and I'm still looking for a package with ghc6.4, or the tuits to build one myself. (Doubtless someone will point me to an overlooked message announcing one months back...) I think having a joint testbed machine to look over, test things, compare with home, and help with would be a good use of my time at this point. Also, this new machine needs a hostname. Please help me think of a cute name! I prefer a short hostname with less than 9 letters. I like onion, too... maybe 'geode' later, when perl6 has been cast in stone. (Though then we wouldn't need a dev server...) Regards, Roger Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Roger Hale skribis 2005-05-24 6:02 (-0400): I would like an account, name 'spinclad'. Sure. The need for svn, ghc and such has finally pushed me to upgrade my home debian box to sarge, and I'm still looking for a package with ghc6.4, or the tuits to build one myself. Get ghc-cvs from sid. Don't use sarge if you want to use recent software. I like onion, too... maybe 'geode' later, when perl6 has been cast in stone. (Though then we wouldn't need a dev server...) Unfortunately, onion is already taken by another important Perl server: onion.perl.org. I'm currently considering 'ui', which is Dutch for 'onion'. I bet almost nobody here knows how to pronounce ui ;) Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
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On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 05:25:57PM +0200, Juerd wrote: Rob Kinyon skribis 2005-05-23 11:22 (-0400): I'd like one. Sure - just think of a nice catchy username! :) I'd like bsmith. Thanks :-) Maybe we should divvy these tasks out. It wouldn't do that have two people smoke-testing on the exact same machine or to have two SVN mirrors ... Good idea, will you take the task of managing these decisions? I'd like to volunteer to setup the SVN/SVK mirror. Software wise can I ask for: * svk * vim * screen * cron -- Benjamin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp9T8BkiKhuw.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 11:12:58AM +0100, Benjamin Smith wrote: * svk * vim * screen * cron * haddock -- Benjamin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp2GkG7fEUxQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:12:57PM +0200, Juerd wrote: I'm currently considering 'ui', which is Dutch for 'onion'. I bet almost nobody here knows how to pronounce ui ;) That reads 'user interface' to me, which I think isn't what we want. How about 'sipuli'? That's what onion is called in Finnish. :) Anyway, I do think the name should be English, to be as accessible as possible. 'Feather' is nice, and reminds me of Pugs's origins. On the other hand, maybe 'falcon' (as terribly cliched as it is) is more accurate of Pugs nowadays. -- wolverian signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Hi, Just to know, onion in Hungarian is hagyma. ;) Bye, Andras On Tue, 24 May 2005, wolverian wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:12:57PM +0200, Juerd wrote: I'm currently considering 'ui', which is Dutch for 'onion'. I bet almost nobody here knows how to pronounce ui ;) That reads 'user interface' to me, which I think isn't what we want. How about 'sipuli'? That's what onion is called in Finnish. :) Anyway, I do think the name should be English, to be as accessible as possible. 'Feather' is nice, and reminds me of Pugs's origins. On the other hand, maybe 'falcon' (as terribly cliched as it is) is more accurate of Pugs nowadays. -- wolverian
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Onian in Portuguese: cebola (in case any of you wonder) wolverian wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:12:57PM +0200, Juerd wrote: I'm currently considering 'ui', which is Dutch for 'onion'. I bet almost nobody here knows how to pronounce ui ;) That reads 'user interface' to me, which I think isn't what we want. How about 'sipuli'? That's what onion is called in Finnish. :) Anyway, I do think the name should be English, to be as accessible as possible. 'Feather' is nice, and reminds me of Pugs's origins. On the other hand, maybe 'falcon' (as terribly cliched as it is) is more accurate of Pugs nowadays. -- Alberto Simões - Departamento de Informática - Universidade do Minho Campus de Gualtar - 4710-057 Braga - Portugal
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Note how close to Finnish it is. Portuguese: cebola Finnish: sipoli Might be a coincidence, but might also be a borrowed word. // Carl On 5/24/05, Alberto Manuel Brandão Simões [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Onian in Portuguese: cebola (in case any of you wonder) wolverian wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:12:57PM +0200, Juerd wrote: I'm currently considering 'ui', which is Dutch for 'onion'. I bet almost nobody here knows how to pronounce ui ;) That reads 'user interface' to me, which I think isn't what we want. How about 'sipuli'? That's what onion is called in Finnish. :) Anyway, I do think the name should be English, to be as accessible as possible. 'Feather' is nice, and reminds me of Pugs's origins. On the other hand, maybe 'falcon' (as terribly cliched as it is) is more accurate of Pugs nowadays. -- Alberto Simões - Departamento de Informática - Universidade do Minho Campus de Gualtar - 4710-057 Braga - Portugal
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On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 02:57:42PM +0200, Carl Mäsak wrote: Note how close to Finnish it is. Portuguese: cebola Finnish: sipoli Might be a coincidence, but might also be a borrowed word. (This is extremely OT for the list.) That's 'sipuli', actually. I'm not sure (I'm not an etymologist), but there might be a common root in the latin name - Allium _cepa_ Linnaeus. It seems to have had multiple common latin names in the past, most of them based on 'cepa'. 'Cepae' is remarkably close to Finnish, although the ending is different. (Finnish in general has some _very_ old forms of words that have degenerated ages ago in other languages.) -- wolverian signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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On Tuesday 24 May 2005 15:06, wolverian wrote: in the latin name - Allium _cepa_ Linnaeus. What about cepa as name? BTW, it's Zwiebel in german ;-)
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wolverian skribis 2005-05-24 15:01 (+0300): I'm currently considering 'ui', which is Dutch for 'onion'. I bet almost nobody here knows how to pronounce ui ;) That reads 'user interface' to me, which I think isn't what we want. How about 'sipuli'? That's what onion is called in Finnish. :) Anyway, I do think the name should be English, to be as accessible as possible. 'Feather' is nice, and reminds me of Pugs's origins. On the other hand, maybe 'falcon' (as terribly cliched as it is) is more accurate of Pugs nowadays. Or the other nice words for onion. It's weird that the word for onion is funny in every language, even though they words are radically different! I like sipuli and zwiebel, just because they're the funniest. But I like the newly suggested feather better, as it can relate to pugs AND parrot. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
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On Tue, 24 May 2005, wolverian wrote: Portuguese: cebola Finnish: sipoli Italian: cipolla (since nobody has mentioned it yet) Michele -- It was part of the dissatisfaction thing. I never claimed I was a nice person. - David Kastrup in comp.text.tex, Re: verbatiminput double spacing
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On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:12:57PM +0200, Juerd wrote: Unfortunately, onion is already taken by another important Perl server: onion.perl.org. I'm currently considering 'ui', which is Dutch for 'onion'. I bet almost nobody here knows how to pronounce ui ;) What about another herb like garlic? Throw in some meat and vegetables and we've got a good stew going :-) -Scott -- Jonathan Scott Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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carrot :-) Jonathan Scott Duff wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:12:57PM +0200, Juerd wrote: Unfortunately, onion is already taken by another important Perl server: onion.perl.org. I'm currently considering 'ui', which is Dutch for 'onion'. I bet almost nobody here knows how to pronounce ui ;) What about another herb like garlic? Throw in some meat and vegetables and we've got a good stew going :-) -Scott -- Alberto Simões - Departamento de Informática - Universidade do Minho Campus de Gualtar - 4710-057 Braga - Portugal
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Esperanto: cepo (though that's probably not a data point) // Carl On 5/24/05, Michele Dondi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2005, wolverian wrote: Portuguese: cebola Finnish: sipoli Italian: cipolla (since nobody has mentioned it yet) Michele -- It was part of the dissatisfaction thing. I never claimed I was a nice person. - David Kastrup in comp.text.tex, Re: verbatiminput double spacing
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Icelandic: laukur (Incidentally, none of you will ever guess how to correctly pronounce that.) -- Schwäche zeigen heißt verlieren; härte heißt regieren. - Glas und Tränen, Megaherz
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On Tue, 24 May 2005, Herbert Snorrason wrote: Icelandic: laukur (Incidentally, none of you will ever guess how to correctly pronounce that.) Incidentally, would 'laukurdottir' be a proper Icelandic offence? :-) Michele -- Me too. If it's any comfort, just think of the design of Perl 6 as a genetic algorithm running on a set of distributed wetware CPUs. We'll just keep mutating our ideas till they prove themselves adaptive. - Larry Wall in p6l, Re: Adding linear interpolation to an array
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On 5/24/05, Michele Dondi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2005, Herbert Snorrason wrote: Icelandic: laukur (Incidentally, none of you will ever guess how to correctly pronounce that.) Incidentally, would 'laukurdottir' be a proper Icelandic offence? :-) daughter of an onion ?? I can't be translating that right ... Rob
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On 24/05/05, Michele Dondi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incidentally, would 'laukurdottir' be a proper Icelandic offence? :-) It'd be 'lauksdóttir' (due to declension) and mean 'daughter of an onion'. If nothing else, it would make people look at you in a funny way... ;) -- Schwäche zeigen heißt verlieren; härte heißt regieren. - Glas und Tränen, Megaherz
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On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:44:43PM +0200, Juerd wrote: But I like the newly suggested feather better, as it can relate to pugs AND parrot. Feather is best one thus far, I think. I like carrot too; it's more playful. I equate Pugs with fun a lot. -- wolverian signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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wolverian wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:44:43PM +0200, Juerd wrote: But I like the newly suggested feather better, as it can relate to pugs AND parrot. Feather is best one thus far, I think. I like carrot too; it's more playful. I equate Pugs with fun a lot. How about budgie. a small Australian parakeet usually light green with black and yellow markings in the wild but bred in many colors, syn: budgerigar. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 06:16:06PM +0300, wolverian wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:44:43PM +0200, Juerd wrote: But I like the newly suggested feather better, as it can relate to pugs AND parrot. Feather is best one thus far, I think. I like carrot too; it's more playful. I equate Pugs with fun a lot. I think carrot is nice too. Only it makes me wonder where the stick is :) -Scott -- Jonathan Scott Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:12:57PM +0200, Juerd wrote: Unfortunately, onion is already taken by another important Perl server: onion.perl.org. I'm currently considering 'ui', which is Dutch for 'onion'. I bet almost nobody here knows how to pronounce ui ;) For a development machine, the yiddish pronunciation would work well. That would make it sound like OY! :-) --
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On Tue, 24 May 2005, wolverian wrote:
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:44:43PM +0200, Juerd wrote:
But I like the newly suggested feather better, as it can relate to
pugs AND parrot.
Feather is best one thus far, I think. I like carrot too; it's more
playful. I equate Pugs with fun a lot.
Hmmm, but has 'carrot' anything to do with perl6 C any more, well, apart
s/p(?=arrot)/c; # obviously
(BTW: how would that be in p6?)
Also, while I'm not fond of the vast majority of vegetables, I like onions
as an ingredient of many other good meals ('meal' is not the correct
English word for what I mean, but the correct term eludes me ATM). But can
you say the same thing of carrots?!?
Michele
--
I once heard someone say, the sum of the reciprocals
of the known primes is less than 4 - and it will always be.
- Gerry Myerson in sci.math, Re: Summation of Reciprocals of Primes
Perl development server
Hi, because I see some people struggle to get things like GHC working, and then to get make and a compiler working, and because some people have limited bandwidth which makes big svn updates a less pleasant experience, and for other reasons, I decided to have my company, Convolution, sponsor a shell server. It will be a simple server, with an Intel main board, a Pentium 4 2.4 GHz CPU, 1024 MB of RAM and 80 GB of mirrored (raid1) diskspace. On the software side, there will be Debian GNU/Linux Sid, with all software required to compile Parrot and Pugs installed. Using Apache, users can publish files for http access. Twistspace, a Dutch colocation provider, is so kind to sponsor rackspace and connectivity. My current estimate is that the machine will be online and accessible by the end of this week. Everyone who wants, can get a login. Access is provided via SSH version 2 only (Windows users can use PuTTY and WinSCP), and the box may be used for everything that improves Perl 6 development. Users are encouraged to keep files world readable for transparency. If you want access, please let me know. I will send you a temporary password by e-mail, that I expect you to change the first time you get the chance. Please let me know which software you want installed. If it's in Debian and doesn't conflict with other software, you can have it (but no X or openoffice, or the like). If it's not in Debian, you'll have to compile it yourself. The box won't have an SVN mirror unless someone puts it there. There won't be a smoke test unless someone writes the script. It's a community machine, and users are expected to fill in the details. Also, this new machine needs a hostname. Please help me think of a cute name! I prefer a short hostname with less than 9 letters. I have sent this message to perl6-language and perl6-compiler. Please CC replies back to me if you read it on p6c, because I'm not subscribed to that list. Regards, Juerd P.S. No guarantees of any kind are made. If I turn BOFHish one day, you may find your account removed just because I liked it :) -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
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If you want access, please let me know. I will send you a temporary password by e-mail, that I expect you to change the first time you get the chance. I'd like one. The box won't have an SVN mirror unless someone puts it there. There won't be a smoke test unless someone writes the script. It's a community machine, and users are expected to fill in the details. Maybe we should divvy these tasks out. It wouldn't do that have two people smoke-testing on the exact same machine or to have two SVN mirrors ... Also, this new machine needs a hostname. Please help me think of a cute name! I prefer a short hostname with less than 9 letters. dev.pugscode.org seems indicated ... Rob
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Rob Kinyon skribis 2005-05-23 11:22 (-0400): I'd like one. Sure - just think of a nice catchy username! :) Maybe we should divvy these tasks out. It wouldn't do that have two people smoke-testing on the exact same machine or to have two SVN mirrors ... Good idea, will you take the task of managing these decisions? dev.pugscode.org seems indicated ... Sorry, but 'dev' isn't cute enough :). And it's going to be something.perl6.nl, probably. I don't mind aliases, though, but they better be CNAMEs. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
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On 5/23/05, Juerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Kinyon skribis 2005-05-23 11:22 (-0400): I'd like one. Sure - just think of a nice catchy username! :) robkinyon please - it's catchy enough. Maybe we should divvy these tasks out. It wouldn't do that have two people smoke-testing on the exact same machine or to have two SVN mirrors ... Good idea, will you take the task of managing these decisions? Unfortunately, I have no tuits, otherwise I would love to. Porting PREFIX from EU::MM to M::B is going to take all of my available time, assuming I have any after the baby's born. Rob
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Hi, I'd like one. Sure - just think of a nice catchy username! :) I'd like another one, as boogie. I think now, that I will use it, but I have a lot of jobs these days, with higher priorities :( than Perl6. dev.pugscode.org seems indicated ... Sorry, but 'dev' isn't cute enough :). And it's going to be something.perl6.nl, probably. I don't mind aliases, though, but they better be CNAMEs. I can offer a subdomain of perl6.hu, too - as a CNAME. ;) I think, the cute name can be about animals. A camel and a parrot are in my mind. Or what about camelseeks.org/perlseeks.org? It sounds like camel6 and perl6. Bye, Andras
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On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 05:25:57PM +0200, Juerd wrote: dev.pugscode.org seems indicated ... Sorry, but 'dev' isn't cute enough :). And it's going to be something.perl6.nl, probably. I don't mind aliases, though, but they better be CNAMEs. How about dev.perl6.nl -- I'll CNAME dev.pugscode.org there. Thanks, /Autrijus/ pgpGUmeOXhmxD.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Hi!
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 05:18:45PM +0200, Juerd wrote:
Everyone who wants, can get a login.
me too! 'domm' please.
Also, this new machine needs a hostname. Please help me think of a cute
name! I prefer a short hostname with less than 9 letters.
onion
Access to this machine would also be handy for participants of the Austrian
Perl Workshop Parrot/Pugs hack-a-thon:
http://conferences.yapceurope.org/apw2005
While I will inform everyone what
they need, I'm sure quite a lot people will show up without a fresh checkout
of the various repositories. So if I can get a number of dummy accounts (to
be deleted after the event) that would be great!
BTW, will all users on this machine share one svn working copy or is
everyone supposed to to his/her own checkout? Or is this one of the things
someone should organise?
--
#!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.zsi.at
for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$-gprint$_.$/}
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On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 05:18:45PM +0200, Juerd wrote: Hi, Hello :) because I see some people struggle to get things like GHC working, and then to get make and a compiler working, and because some people have limited bandwidth which makes big svn updates a less pleasant experience, and for other reasons, I decided to have my company, Convolution, sponsor a shell server. Lots of thanks for this. A dedicated server will make my life easier, at least. If you want access, please let me know. I will send you a temporary password by e-mail, that I expect you to change the first time you get the chance. I'd like a login, username wolverian. Thanks! Please let me know which software you want installed. If it's in Debian and doesn't conflict with other software, you can have it (but no X or openoffice, or the like). If it's not in Debian, you'll have to compile it yourself. All I need are the basics - vim, scp. I think those are installed by default, anyway. A perl-enabled version of vim would be nice. -- wolverian signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Juerd, I would like an account too, username 'stevan' please. On May 23, 2005, at 11:25 AM, Juerd wrote: dev.pugscode.org seems indicated ... Sorry, but 'dev' isn't cute enough :). And it's going to be something.perl6.nl, probably. I don't mind aliases, though, but they better be CNAMEs. lambdacamels.perl6.nl? Stevan Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
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BÁRTHÁZI András skribis 2005-05-23 17:40 (+0200): I think, the cute name can be about animals. A camel and a parrot are in my mind. Parrot can't be, because that's also the name of one of the projects, and I want to avoid confusion. Camel -- sorry, but years of Perl still haven't convinced me they are cute animals :) Besides, it feels wrong to see a camel in Perl context without the text used with permission. (Even though that is only required with images) Or what about camelseeks.org/perlseeks.org? It sounds like camel6 and perl6. The domain already exists, but if you want to register additional domains, go right ahead. Ask me for DNS information later. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
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Stevan Little skribis 2005-05-23 12:00 (-0400): I would like an account too, username 'stevan' please. Will be arranged. lambdacamels.perl6.nl? I like it, but singular (as it identifies the machine itself, not its users). Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
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Thomas Klausner skribis 2005-05-23 18:03 (+0200): While I will inform everyone what they need, I'm sure quite a lot people will show up without a fresh checkout of the various repositories. So if I can get a number of dummy accounts (to be deleted after the event) that would be great! hackathon1..hackathon9, or do you need more? BTW, will all users on this machine share one svn working copy or is everyone supposed to to his/her own checkout? Or is this one of the things someone should organise? There may be a local mirror to minimize bandwidth (if someone arranges this to happen), but every uses should have their own working copy, because otherwise versioning systems don't work too well: you would be committing someone else's changes, for which you don't know a good log entry, and the logs no longer show the correct user names. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
Re: Hackathon users (was: Perl development server)
Hi, Thomas Klausner skribis 2005-05-23 18:03 (+0200): While I will inform everyone what they need, I'm sure quite a lot people will show up without a fresh checkout of the various repositories. So if I can get a number of dummy accounts (to be deleted after the event) that would be great! hackathon1..hackathon9, or do you need more? BTW, will all users on this machine share one svn working copy or is everyone supposed to to his/her own checkout? Or is this one of the things someone should organise? There may be a local mirror to minimize bandwidth (if someone arranges this to happen), but every uses should have their own working copy, because otherwise versioning systems don't work too well: you would be committing someone else's changes, for which you don't know a good log entry, and the logs no longer show the correct user names. I think that, for hacking there's no need for users on a remote machine, if the hackers has a computer, they can develop locally, has a repo locally. Or if you can offer computers locally, you can install an environment for them (or maybe you would like to take out these installs with this server?). If there will be new projects starting there, then it would be nice to share them with a server for other people, to get it after the conference, and join. But it needs an SVN server, at least, and an easy to setup plain project site skeleton. I think it would be nice, if somebody can prepare these tools for both Hackathon, and for other people as well. Bye, Andras
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Hi, I think, the cute name can be about animals. A camel and a parrot are in my mind. Parrot can't be, because that's also the name of one of the projects, and I want to avoid confusion. I just thinking something related these animals, not the animal. Maybe feather, etc. It's not the big idea itself. ;) Camel -- sorry, but years of Perl still haven't convinced me they are cute animals :) Besides, it feels wrong to see a camel in Perl context without the text used with permission. (Even though that is only required with images) I have no these thoughts about camel, but it's your decision. However, I like onion, what Thomas recommended. Or what about camelseeks.org/perlseeks.org? It sounds like camel6 and perl6. The domain already exists, but if you want to register additional domains, go right ahead. Ask me for DNS information later. You mean, that you would like to create a subdomain for perl6.nl? Bye, Andrs
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Nathan Gray skribis 2005-05-23 12:50 (-0400): Sorry, but 'dev' isn't cute enough :). And it's going to be something.perl6.nl, probably. I don't mind aliases, though, but they better be CNAMEs. Juerd, why am I getting everyone's responses, but not your original messages? I have no idea. I'm sending these messages to the two mailing lists, and from there on, I can't track where they're going (or not) Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
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Thomas Klausner skribis 2005-05-23 18:03 (+0200): onion Sorry, I had previously overlooked this lone paragraph. I like onion the best so far. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
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How about zephyr. On Mon, 23 May 2005 18:55:29 +0200, Juerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Thomas Klausner skribis 2005-05-23 18:03 (+0200): onion Sorry, I had previously overlooked this lone paragraph. I like onion the best so far. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis 2005-05-23 13:58 (-0500): I like onion the best so far. How about zephyr. The building my grandmother lives in is called Zephyr. For me, the word is strongly associated with old people, and not at all with programming :) While an onion has many layers that together make a single whole that adds taste to almost any meal, which I think is a nice view of Perl 6. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
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On Mon, 23 May 2005 14:58:20 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about zephyr. No! That's the name of a project I'm working on dang it ;)
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It reminds me of minor league baseball and roller coasters...anyway, onion seems somehow appropriate since they also make the people kitchen cry ;) On Mon, 23 May 2005 21:00:51 +0200, Juerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skribis 2005-05-23 13:58 (-0500): I like onion the best so far. How about zephyr. The building my grandmother lives in is called Zephyr. For me, the word is strongly associated with old people, and not at all with programming :) While an onion has many layers that together make a single whole that adds taste to almost any meal, which I think is a nice view of Perl 6. Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
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Andy Bach wrote off-list: Isn't Abigail the golfer, YA excellent PH, FunWithPerl, er guy? I think camels are Fido and Amelia: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node=31716 You're right, of course. I knew it was one of those A names... -- Brent 'Dax' Royal-Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perl and Parrot hacker
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Hi Well... I promise not to push much the server. Although I think I will manage to get ghc and all those things working soon, I would like an account too, if possible. User name, ambs Also, onion as a machine name is a good name. Domm++ Alberto wolverian wrote: On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 05:18:45PM +0200, Juerd wrote: Hi, Hello :) because I see some people struggle to get things like GHC working, and then to get make and a compiler working, and because some people have limited bandwidth which makes big svn updates a less pleasant experience, and for other reasons, I decided to have my company, Convolution, sponsor a shell server. Lots of thanks for this. A dedicated server will make my life easier, at least. If you want access, please let me know. I will send you a temporary password by e-mail, that I expect you to change the first time you get the chance. I'd like a login, username wolverian. Thanks! Please let me know which software you want installed. If it's in Debian and doesn't conflict with other software, you can have it (but no X or openoffice, or the like). If it's not in Debian, you'll have to compile it yourself. All I need are the basics - vim, scp. I think those are installed by default, anyway. A perl-enabled version of vim would be nice. -- Alberto Simões - Departamento de Informática - Universidade do Minho Campus de Gualtar - 4710-057 Braga - Portugal
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On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 12:00:14PM -0400, Stevan Little wrote: On May 23, 2005, at 11:25 AM, Juerd wrote: dev.pugscode.org seems indicated ... Sorry, but 'dev' isn't cute enough :). And it's going to be something.perl6.nl, probably. I don't mind aliases, though, but they better be CNAMEs. Juerd, why am I getting everyone's responses, but not your original messages? lambdacamels.perl6.nl? That's catchy, and we could all remember it. Or in keeping with the Tolkien theme, there's always: silmaril.perl6.nl valinor.perl6.nl or some such. -kolibrie
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On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 06:51:31PM +0200, Juerd wrote: Nathan Gray skribis 2005-05-23 12:50 (-0400): Sorry, but 'dev' isn't cute enough :). And it's going to be something.perl6.nl, probably. I don't mind aliases, though, but they better be CNAMEs. Juerd, why am I getting everyone's responses, but not your original messages? I have no idea. I'm sending these messages to the two mailing lists, and from there on, I can't track where they're going (or not) Got this one. Weird. -kolibrie
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I've been advised to make sure I get the full names of users, not just their nicknames and e-mail addresses, for juridical purposes. Although this can be a rather sensitive subject for some, I've chosen to follow the advice and require that users make their full name known. If you don't have a last|family name, get one ;) Juerd -- http://convolution.nl/maak_juerd_blij.html http://convolution.nl/make_juerd_happy.html http://convolution.nl/gajigu_juerd_n.html
